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Obama's Relationship With Gay Rights Advocates Thaws In Time For 2012

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First Posted: 06/14/11 01:35 PM ET Updated: 08/14/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The relationship between President Barack Obama and gay rights advocates appears to be thawing after two years of mutual distrust, in which each side was more likely to assail the other's motivations than find room for collaboration.

On Monday, the president's reelection campaign formally announced that he would attend a high-profile LGBT gala in New York City on June 23. The event is set to be emceed by Neil Patrick Harris. It will also feature former Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Penn.), chief sponsor of the Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal legislation, as well as Joel Burns, the Fort Worth council member whose emotional plea to stop anti-gay bullying helped make the "It Gets Better" series viral. The event is expected to raise a nice chunk of change for the Obama Victory Fund 2012.

Not even half a year ago, anticipation for such a fundraiser would center on how protesters might interrupt it. Those interruptions may still take place, but even jaded gay rights activists seem eager to find more amicable ground with the administration.

"I think that people always took the president at his word that the commitments he made in the 2008 campaign were heartfelt and that he meant them," said Richard Socarides, president of Equality Matters who does not count himself among the jaded. "I think what we learned about his governing style is that he is very process-oriented. He gets a plan in his mind and there is no changing course. He said at a gay pride event in 2009, 'Give me eight years.' A lot of us didn't want to wait eight years. But two years into it, he has delivered on some pretty important, incremental, pieces."

Socarides said Obama's decision to no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act was especially important. "I think that pretty much sealed the deal for him with gay and lesbian Americans," he added.

Deal-sealing would be a boon to the President's reelection campaign, which has strategically eyed gay rights advocates as lucrative sources of campaign funds. Still, the president and his team have shied away from overt pandering to LGBT funders, in part, as Socarides conceded, because there are still many unmet expectations. Chief among them is proactive support for marriage equality.

Instead, Obama has managed to shore up his position in large part through incremental action, behind-the-scenes maneuvering and subtle winks and signals.

In his new Obama tome, "Revival 2.0: How the Obama White House Is Making Its Political Comeback, " Richard Wolffe offers one such illustration. Wolffe reports that the president declined a deal offered by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to guarantee passage of a nuclear non-proliferation treaty with Russia in exchange for scrapping a DADT vote.

Soon after the elections, McConnell approached Biden with a deal. His members hated the prospect of voting on two issues that might be used against them in future elections: Don't Ask Don't Tell and the Dream Act, which offered legal status to the children of illegal immigrants. McConnell offered to get Obama the votes on his treasured START treaty as long as he could dodge the controversial votes on gay rights and immigration. Obama's response was "no": those votes could go to the back of the queue, but he refused to kill them.

For many in Obama's inner circle, this position would have been unthinkable if Rahm Emanuel had still been chief of staff. As the leading advocate of the Survivalist group of Washington insiders, Emanuel cared little for Obama's campaign commitments on civil rights to either gays or Latinos. "Rahm would have made that deal," said one senior Obama adviser. "He would have wanted to give up Don't Ask Don't Tell for START. He would have made deals earlier than we should have made them. And, given his history on health care and everything else, even if the president had held firm, God knows what he'd have been telling the press about the vote numbers. In this case we were helped by Rahm not being there to negotiate these things. Because Rahm would have freaked out at losing the House."

Wolffe's telling of events leans on sourcing from Obama's supporters. An effort to get comment from Emanuel's office was not returned.

But it's the Democratic congressional leadership -- as well as Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn) -- that would be most aggrieved by this account. They pushed a stand-alone DADT repeal vote even after the legislation failed as an attachment to a defense authorization bill.

Obama did earn more than a few chips among gay rights activists from getting DADT repeal into law. Many top gay rights advocates are convinced the testimonies in support of repeal from Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen came at the prodding of the president.

Even more instrumental in earning LGBT support was Obama's decision to instruct his Justice Department to stop defending the constitutionality of a controversial provision of the Defense of Marriage Act in courts.

"It was something only he could do, and it sent a strong message," said Steve Elmendorf, a prominent Democratic strategist and gay rights advocate. "It signaled that he is moving on marriage."

Still, Elmendorf said, Obama is "not where he needs to be on marriage. The energy in the community is obviously focused on marriage right now, but they also realize it is a state issue and there is nothing immediate Obama can do so long as John Boehner is Speaker."

Therein lies the most fundamental reason for the thawing: several months of Republican control of the House have given gay rights advocates experience with the alternative to an Obama administration -- and it's been motivational.

There will be some concerned with LGBT issues who, out of apathy or disappointment, simply sit out the 2012 cycle. But the majority are expect to overcome their grievances.

"If you look at [Monday's] Republican presidential debate, any one of those people are very scary for gay Americans," said Socarides.

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WASHINGTON -- The relationship between President Barack Obama and gay rights advocates appears to be thawing after two years of mutual distrust, in which each side was more likely to assail the other'...
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09:18 PM on 06/15/2011
Well, I'm not as enthusiastic as I was before he was elected but he is easily better than any alternative. Looking back on what he's said about ending DADT & DOMA he's said he'd do it and he wanted us all to trust him. I'm not sure he's EVER publicly declared a timeline for either accomplishment. He has made progress - although painfully slow - so I will keep pushing him to 'make it happen,' keep donating to his campaign and understand that there is a greater chance of me seeing these laws struck down with him in office than with anyone else.
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josie klapper
Who can I piss-off today?
12:40 AM on 06/16/2011
Not really, the courts are striking them down as we speak. He's just trying to do it in an "orderly" fashion instead.
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Mistinguette Grandison
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04:50 PM on 06/18/2011
Put pressure on Congress then and fight against the GOP and Blue Dog dems who are supporting it.
mooncop1
Impeachment is a beginning, not an end.
07:36 PM on 06/15/2011
The rainbow flag is flying high over the federal reserve in Richmond, Va. so he must be doing something. Next we will see it flying over the whitehouse.
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04:21 PM on 06/25/2011
Let's hope so. You do know that the pride flag in Richmond has NOTHING to do with Obama, right? It had everything to do with the Federal Reserve Bank honoring its own employees. End of story.

The Federal Reserve is a private entity that the US treasury uses for banking. That's it. They handle the country's money, but they are not part of the government, and they are independent politically.

Except there are hard-working, honest people working in and around the bank who are LGBT.( Like many places) The bank honors that diversity, even in a state like Virginia, that does not. This was such a non-issue that people like Bob Marshall need to fight about, otherwise they'd have nothing to do.
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07:26 PM on 06/15/2011
CASE STUDY of how 1iberal hp poweruser INFLUENCE OPINIONS to SUPPRESS conservative views

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hp hasno place4 honest opinions, i'm being labelled all kind of nasty things, all due to the fact that i pointed out minority group divide and how it affect us.
media monguls you have sucessfully shaped and controlled public opinion using tools of propagandism, by labelling playing the rce card. everytime people come near a third rail issue or a taboo issue, these manipulators of public opinion come out to enforce all views opposite of theirs.

it's part of a bigger movement, for the minority few who are exploiting and gaming our democratic system, to inject their narrow focus onto the public so they could effectively hijack the democratic process by defrauding the public, so they could steal trillions, or to manipulate and control public opinion.
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joemondo
Smug.
10:40 AM on 06/15/2011
I'm certainly among the gravely dissatisfied with President Obama. He promised gays that he would be a "fierce advocate" for us - that is HIS choice of words, not mine.

What he's provided has been anything but "fierce", and you'd be hard pressed to prove otherwise.

That said, he's been mostly decent about giving us room to make our own progress, and that's a good thing. It's a better thing than we'll likely get from anyone else.

So he's got my vote, if not my enthusiasm. Maybe that will be enough.
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Coloradem
Christian, Gay, Democrat
11:28 AM on 06/15/2011
F&F...
11:41 AM on 06/15/2011
"So he's got my vote, if not my enthusiasm­."

My feelings precisely.
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09:55 AM on 06/15/2011
I love how the Obama-bots say, don't let the GOP win. We survived 8 years under Bush. We can survive 4 under Romney or even Bachman.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
10:12 AM on 06/15/2011
bachmann: "We need to have profound compassion for people who are dealing with the very real issue of sexual dysfunction in their life and sexual identity disorders".

Look at that. Gay people have a mental disorder.....
10:15 AM on 06/15/2011
Gay people can survive 4 years under her.
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Coloradem
Christian, Gay, Democrat
11:30 AM on 06/15/2011
Well, at least then we'd have employment and housing protections under the Americans With Disabilities Act. That's more protection than Obama has given us.
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ProfWagstaff
Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted.
12:54 PM on 06/15/2011
It is this kind of childish, whiney attitude that helped Scott Walker come to power in Wisconsin. Grow up!
02:16 PM on 06/15/2011
This kind of childish insult, directed at the base, is the reason the democratic party is losing ground.
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MaryMay
May your tears come from laughing
09:53 AM on 06/15/2011
Regardless of how much or how little Obama is perceived as doing, is it exponentially greater than anything the Republicans have ever done or ever will do to advance the LGBT's agenda.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
10:16 AM on 06/15/2011
Agree.
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RC81
So...so very thirsty...
09:15 AM on 06/15/2011
He made a HUGE step in late 2010 by saying his views were 'evolving' on the issue of same sex marriages. I couldn't imagine any republican/conservative politician in his position actually verbalizing that in private let alone in front of the press. And using the term 'evolving' certainly wasn't lost on me.
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blackranger
09:19 AM on 06/15/2011
I think the job of president is like child rearing, it does not come with a roadmap. You make mistakes and the important thing is that you are able to change. This president has faced one of the hardest terms anyone could ever face and he has done a pretty good job in my book. I have complaints, but I am still giving him high marks.
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RC81
So...so very thirsty...
10:10 AM on 06/15/2011
Agreed. Hell, he needs 3 terms to get enough traction to pull this thing out of the ditch. Not to whip a dead horse, but the differences between the country President Obama inherited vs the country GW Bush inherited are palpable. The willful ignorance of the right regarding this is beyond the pale.
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Coloradem
Christian, Gay, Democrat
11:32 AM on 06/15/2011
Well, his views had already "devolved" from where they were when he ran for the Illinois Senate in 1998 when he supported Marriage Equality. He sold us out for political expediency as he sought higher office. He's not a "friend" to the gay community...he sees us as a means to an end...nothing more, nothing less.
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RC81
So...so very thirsty...
12:33 PM on 06/15/2011
You of course have a point. I'm not part of the gay community so I certainly don't want to talk out of school.

The crux of my opinion is that I don't recall any other president who has even come close to broaching this issue nearly as much as President Obama.(which is historically a soft place to fall for LOTS of bigots aka: VOTES) I realize he's a politician, but at +/- 4% of the population (I know the numbers are inherently dodgy) can you see yourself giving him any credit at all? Just asking.
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Brad Smith2
If you don't believe in freedom of speech for all
09:12 AM on 06/15/2011
Hey commanders us Joes that serve with gays can handle it why can't you? We all know who we are serving with and if we don't have a problem why do you. I have been out for a while but I served alongside gay men. No they didn't say they were gay but you knew most of the time. Some times you never knew until they got kicked out and then you were simply sad that you had one more friend that was going home and leaving you behind.

I wish they would give Joes a little more credit, they really are professional and they really have bigger things to worry about than who their friend is in love with.
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Bobby Rice
09:12 AM on 06/15/2011
If the gay community is so upset with this president...then vote Republican and see how many gay rights you'll have then.
09:53 AM on 06/15/2011
Oh we won't vote republican; we'll vote 3rd party. Sure, if enough people do that, it will hand victory over to the GOP, but Obama should have thought about that before he decided to kick his base in the teeth to court the right-wing, something he did long before the GOP retook the House.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
10:06 AM on 06/15/2011
We? Speak for yourself.
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
05:05 PM on 06/18/2011
He never did kick you. You got the Matthew Shepard Hate Crime Laws Prevention Act signed into Law, the Repeal of DADT, stopped defending the DOMA (because the likelihood of them actually repealing it with a Republican controlled house is very unlikely). If you really look into his record and compare it with his predecessors, it's very strong in the area of Gay rights. If I were you, I would just push him to do more because a third party candidate never wins. Times are still tough for the gay community, but the last thing you want to do is that.
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joemondo
Smug.
10:36 AM on 06/15/2011
Oh great - threats as a way to motivate the base.

Hopefully Obama's team will have a better strategy than yours.
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Coloradem
Christian, Gay, Democrat
11:36 AM on 06/15/2011
The Obama strategy seems to be to start addressing our issues rhetorically until the election in hopes of convincing us that he is, in fact, a "fierce advocate" for LGBT issues so we will again blindly write checks to his campaign and vote for him next November. The strategy is slightly better than threats...hopefully both will be equally unsucessful.
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Bobby Rice
09:35 AM on 06/16/2011
Gay people are NOT obama's base...they are the democrats base....hope that didnt go over your head!
09:07 AM on 06/15/2011
This man will switch positions on any issue or support any group as long as he thinks it will lead for votes.
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blackranger
09:21 AM on 06/15/2011
Can't handle Obama meaning what he says? Or maybe you just cannot deal with a president who rethinks an issue and changes because it is the right thing to do.
10:05 AM on 06/15/2011
18 months to go and he is in full campaign mode. His stance on issues will change weekly now as not to upset any special interest group.
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Opygollopy
The more I talk to people, the more I love my dogs
09:03 AM on 06/15/2011
The marriage issue for the gay community is similar to building a house. You cannot start by building the roof first. You have to lay the foundation, a strong shell, wiring, etc. etc. Obama had to take it one step at a time because he knew he would be stymied every step of the way by the far right fringe, congress and the senate.

He also had 2 wars, a tanked economy and cro.oked banksters to deal with, health care issues and now the GOP want to end SS and medicare. I am glad he can chew gum and walk at the same time, otherwise, nothing would have gotten done.

Republicans have stopped all of his appointments, the judicial bench appointees are not even passed. AND the Supreme Court is awash with far rightwingnutz. How he achieved as much as he has in 3 years is beyond me.

Yet, the gay community is threatening to support the GOP if they don't get it now. That sounds like biting off their nose to spite their face. Its the GOP that are stopping everything. Its the GOP that is grounding everything to a halt. Is it not time to stop the GOP by voting them out????? Then maybe some of what they want could get passed in the legislature and at state level? Just asking.
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
09:13 AM on 06/15/2011
Wonderful post! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!! fanned
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Brad Smith2
If you don't believe in freedom of speech for all
09:18 AM on 06/15/2011
I think you are missing a big part of the picture. It was actually the Log Cabin Republicans that filed the lawsuit to stop DADT. Obama faught it in court and got it tossed. This would have already been over if not for Obama. If not for Obama Gays would already be serving openly. Don't be taken in by a fraud. Also if not for Obama there would be hundreds if not thousands of gay men and women who would not be seperated from their loved ones while being deployed overseas.
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Mistinguette Grandison
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05:05 PM on 06/18/2011
It's on the path to being taken into effect by September. It took over a century for black to maintain equal rights after slavery, so expect it to take time with Gay rights. Push harder, but you don't help yourself when you abandon an ally.
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LiberalLeo1974
09:02 AM on 06/15/2011
As a gay man, I too am frustrated with Obama's wishy-washy stance on marriage equality, HOWEVER this president has done more for the gay community than any other president in history and we should thank him for that. Repealing DADT and getting hate crimes legislation passed didn't help the president politically, but he pushed for them anyway. The DADT repeal was a very big deal and could very well naturally push marriage equality issues to a bigger priority down the road.

Is what he's done enough? No, but it's more than 0, which we've had with every other president. It's progress and that's the important part. Change doesn't come quickly or easily in this country, but the right has always been on the losing side of history when it comes to equality. It will happen...it's inevitable and the closer it comes to being a reality, the harder they will fight and the louder they will scream.
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
09:11 AM on 06/15/2011
Yes, exactly! Thanks for your post. fanned
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Mistinguette Grandison
No. Corporations are NOT people
05:46 PM on 06/18/2011
Thank you. I wish he could be more honest about how he really feels on this issue, which is that he DOES support gay marriage and has long before 2008 but could not get elected then if he said he did (being the politician that he is). So instead, he took the moderate approach in saying he supports Civil Unions. I've notice this with a lot of political decisions he makes: he likes to take the small steps. That's the reason why he tackled signing the Hate Crime Laws bill and extending unemployment benefits to same sex couples before the DADT repeal, which took a long time due to the consistent filibustering by a guy who could have been our president (which reminded me that considering who we could have had, Obama was the right guy).

We still have a long way to go no doubt, but it's incredibly disingenuous to not give him any credit to the issues affecting the gay community or to say that we have NOT made any progress under this President.
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08:58 AM on 06/15/2011
Hack politician lying for votes. Yawn, next story.
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Mistinguette Grandison
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05:48 PM on 06/18/2011
He's not. He's done a lot on gay rights. Look at his record and you will se it.