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Proposal To Protect Retirees' Nest Eggs Becomes Latest Lobbying Flashpoint

First Posted: 06/14/11 09:45 AM ET Updated: 08/14/11 06:12 AM ET

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NEW YORK -- Just before retiring from her job as a manager at Krispy Kreme in 2006, Jerri Young got a letter at her home in West Des Moines, Iowa, telling her to call Principal Financial about her 401k. When she called, assuming that she was talking to an account manager looking out for her best interests, she was convinced to roll over almost $70,000 into a Principal IRA with a class of mutual funds.

Unbeknownst to her, Young was actually talking to a sales agent at a subsidiary of Principal. She felt deceived and sued Principal along with other plan participants, alleging that the company "failed to act solely in the interests of the participants and their plans and instead engaged in blatant and massive self-dealing."

Essentially, the case asked a simple question: Is it too much to ask of professionals who give investment advice to retirement plan participants to have the best interests of those retirees in mind?

In a decision that reverberated through the universe of retirement professionals and their clients, Young's case was dismissed. Principal felt vindicated, stating at the time that it makes "every effort to ensure our business conduct fully satisfies our high ethical standards." The decision, along with many other cases in which it proved difficult to hold investment advisers accountable for allegedly self-serving advice, helped convince the Labor Department to make some changes.

The resulting proposal, which broadens the definition of a fiduciary -- a person bound to look out for another's interest -- has sparked a fierce lobbying battle in Washington, D.C., largely under the radar of the media.

By defining a fiduciary as a person who provides investment advice to retirement plans for a fee or some compensation, the proposal is intended to foster impartiality of advice and make advisers accountable. It also would strip investment advisers -- from large mutual funds to individual accountants -- of a long-standing source of revenue.

The proposal is fiercely opposed by a diverse array of interests, from Wall Street's biggest banks and securities industry groups to a bipartisan group of lawmakers including Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). The Labor Department has been flooded by comments, with those in opposition -- including Principal Financial -- drowning out the voices of consumer advocates and retiree groups. Several other firms that have been targeted by lawsuits involving their investment advice, including State Street, Northern Trust and JPMorgan, have filed lengthy letters in opposition to the proposal.

Kerry, Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and 30 members of the New Democrat Coalition have written to the DOL, Securities and Exchange Commission and Commodities Futures Trading Commission to express their concern that the new rule “would result in worse investment decisions” by consumers and increased costs. Ranking Republican members of key House and Senate committees called the proposal "unworkable," requesting that it be postponed or rejected.

"It's just about basic accountability," says Phyllis Borzi, assistant secretary of labor for the Employee Benefits Security Administration.

“When you hire a plumber, they stand by their work. When you hire an electrician, they stand by their work. Why are you less entitled to that kind of accountability when someone gives you investment advice?"

Borzi says that the Employee Retirement Income Security Act included a broad definition of fiduciary when passed in 1974, but a year later a Labor Department rule restricted that definition to those who met a five-part test. For example, the rule required that advice be given on a regular basis for an adviser to be considered a fiduciary -- so even If a retiree made a decision based on a single conversation, that infrequency exempted the adviser from the responsibility of being a fiduciary.

When the ERISA legislation was passed, many retirement plans were defined-benefit plans and relatively straightforward, so they didn't require many decisions on the part of retirees. It was also before the advent of 401Ks and IRAs, which have required retirees to hold more responsibility for their own retirement planning decisions -- and rely on investment advisers to help navigate the complex range of choices.

In recent years, Borzi and her staffers have seen abuses proliferate. EBSA's enforcement data bears that trend out, with the agency recovering over half a billion dollars since 1991. The 401k marketplace is prone to business arrangements that foster conflicts of interest -- for instance, when consultants receive compensation from the investment companies whose products they recommend to the plan -- according to a 2009 report by the Government Accountability Office. And the Securities and Exchange Commission found in a May 2005 study that 13 of the 24 pension consultants it examined had conflicts of interest.

Borzi, a former lawyer, says that she saw "case after case in which investment advisors would put in a contract that they agreed to be fiduciaries and when the trustee tried to hold them responsible, they would hide behind this DOL [five-part] test. For small employers, it would leave them holding the bag."

She explains that this proposal addresses a "matter of fundamental fairness -- that the person responsible for this loss be held accountable."

The proposal could have far-reaching consequences -- the employee benefit plans under EBSA's jurisdiction hold over $5 trillion in assets and cover about 150 million workers, retirees and their families.

With so much money at stake, the lobbying has intensified on the issue. After a wave of comments, the agency agreed to hold two days of public hearings featuring testimony from interested parties, which prompted another round of comments. "The lobbying power is out of control," says Jessica Flores of the Fiduciary Compliance Center, an independent consulting firm, adding that the hearings were "mobbed with industry lobbyists."

"I have been lobbied pretty intensively on this issue," says Rep. Bob Andrews (D-N.J.), who supports the proposal. "There has been a lot of pushback from the financial industry -- some legitimate and some illegitimate. There are some transactions that may get swept up in this that shouldn't be, such as when an adviser has an approved list of banks and they recommend whatever bank pays the most interest. They do get some compensation from the banks for the right to be on the list. We don't think that should be barred from this rule."

Among the concerns about the proposal are that it would limit access to investment education and increase the costs of investment products. In his letter, Primerica vice president John S. Watts notes, "with the changes made necessary by the proposed rule, broker-dealers may have little incentive to reach out to many middle-income families, as revenue from accounts with small account balances will not generate sufficient fees to cover the costs associated with providing outreach and account services "

Many of the comments from executives in the financial services industry insisted that the new definition is overly broad, limiting its ability to serve its clients. "A plain reading of the standard would include as advice, for example, an interview with one of our officers or strategists providing general market color in the Wall Street Journal, or on Bloomberg or CNBC," notes JPMorgan managing director Don Thompson in his letter.

Some critics feel that the proposal does not go far enough, pointing out the exemptions for certain players in the field. "Basically, these regulations are worthless," says Flores. "By exempting mutual fund companies, you have exempted the biggest source for conflicted advice and abuse. They can continue to provide these services without any accountability."

Borzi emphasizes that the agency is reaching out to all parties and takes all comments into consideration. "Most of the arguments have been process arguments, we have been coordinating with other agencies, we're meeting with everybody," she says. "We have tried to get the financial services industry to give us a list of fee practices they think will be prohibited by this regulation. If we need to amend those exemptions, we'll do that."

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NEW YORK -- Just before retiring from her job as a manager at Krispy Kreme in 2006, Jerri Young got a letter at her home in West Des Moines, Iowa, telling her to call Principal Financial about her 401...
NEW YORK -- Just before retiring from her job as a manager at Krispy Kreme in 2006, Jerri Young got a letter at her home in West Des Moines, Iowa, telling her to call Principal Financial about her 401...
 
 
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04:11 PM on 06/21/2011
Has anyone reading this actually had something like this happen to them personally? Or perhaps to a close friend or family member? Any type of scenario where they were advised to go into a particular investment within an IRA, only to find out later (after having lost much of their retirement) that the investment advisor referred those particular investment options because the advisor was receiving more financial compensation for those specific investments. It is important that you speak out if so.
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isaluna
03:15 PM on 06/16/2011
My husband just retired and I am telling you - it is a MINDFIELD trying to NOT lose everything we have worked hard for and gone without to save! Meanwhile, we feel damned lucky to have something left after 2008. By retired, I mean, he doesn't have the job he had for 20 years anymore, it sure is great to be in our 60's starting over again! "Welcome to Wal-mart" now f@ck off!
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
07:11 AM on 06/16/2011
Can anyone imagine how long and hard it took that lady to make her 70 grand?

And the ruls to try to protect people like her are fought against so that these crooks continue to have license to steal from people when they're vulnerable, or simply uninformed like this?

This is the kind of thing that makes a person with integrity ashamed of so many he or she may call fellow Americans.
10:25 PM on 06/15/2011
Wait. Small account holders have to be gouged in order to cover outreach?
06:25 PM on 06/15/2011
The pools of money are so huge and so easy to steal and the fines for stealing are just pennies on the dollar. Stealing a Trillion dollars is really just a simple math problem. No strikes for repeat offenders. Pay 10,000 lobbyists 2 million dollars each... 20 billion gets 1 trillion and the now use the money to buy infrastructure. It couldn't be more simple. A bubble here, a bubble there, here a bubble, there a bubble, everywhere a bubble. I love Lobbyists - Big Oil - Big Banks - Big Pharma and all the Bigopolies oh and John Roberts, George Bush. Thanks for letting me rant.
06:41 PM on 06/15/2011
The ultimate responsibility rests with the politicians, and they make used car salesmen look like good guys.
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07:41 PM on 06/15/2011
be sure and thank obama for his support of wall street bigopolies when they were at the white house last nite
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
07:06 AM on 06/16/2011
Absolutely, why there he was in his best butler's uniform, catering to the biggies.
05:26 PM on 06/15/2011
Wall Street executives want all your money, your pensions now too. It's the only way they can keep paying multimillion dollar bonuses.
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07:39 PM on 06/15/2011
wall street has to pay obamas bribes that he demanded at the white house the other nite
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bg66astoria
Research Helps
09:20 AM on 06/15/2011
Another reason to make sure that Elizabeth Warren & the CFPB have very big teeth!

Transparency & accountablity needed across the board in all industries, especially those dealing as fiduciaries!!!!
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07:42 PM on 06/15/2011
as obama takes wall street brides, at the white house last nite, to double deal against America
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teachone
Knowledge is Power
11:47 PM on 06/14/2011
It is time for people to use their brains and stop letting others gamble away your retirement in the market! Take your money out of these crooked businesses and put it in a safe in your house and stop being greedy like them. Is it not better to have "enough" money than to chance having "no money" when you retire? Did yoiu not learn from the last financial crisis? Keep your money, your land, your assets and live a frugal life and you will be fine. These people only care about making themselves wealthy, not you. In addition wealth does not buy happiness and you cannot take it with you when you die. We have all forgotten what it is really like to be happy, think back to your grandparents time, they may not have had a ton of money, but at least they had what they needed longterm until they died. You will also saves tons of money by banking with a credit union instead of a bank. If I was retired, I would pay for everything in cash and get a receipt, that would be my banking system. I pretty much do that anyway and I too have a Series 7 license, but no interest in having every dime I make taken from me to pay some fat cats over inflated bonuses, thanks but no thanks!
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muziker
11:13 PM on 06/14/2011
I have a Series 6 and Series 7 NASD licenses. It used to be SEC rules that you were required to asses a client's risk tolerance and present a full prospectus regarding any investment you were selling. You were required by law to present any differences in changing investment vehicles and show the potential profits/income/fund building with each, side by side, so the investor could make a concerted decision. If the agent did not document these procedures, endorsed by the client's signature, a NASD or SEC inspector you charge you with a violation of SEC regulations that carried a potential $10,000 fine and a 5 year prison sentence. Those rules and consumer protections were eliminated by the Bush administration and have made consumers/investors targets for lies, fraud, and misrepresentation. It also makes it fair game to make as much money as you can while "stealing" an investment and even putting the money into a different investment without the investor's permission - an you don't even have to notify them. In essence, legal theft of a person's assets and life savings.
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WorkhelpWorkhelp
Control your money locally. Charter banks now.
01:11 AM on 06/15/2011
Really? Can you point to the eliminated protection so I can detest GWB jr even more.
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joedas
My former employer would forbid it,
08:06 PM on 06/14/2011
Oh, the Games Republican play to fill their coffers. Sad seniors can't live in peace after 30-50 years of work.
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07:44 PM on 06/15/2011
so the wall streeters at the white house last nite were there to see Pres Bush?

guess the bribes to obama were made out in Pres Bush's name
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Reno Fickler
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07:17 PM on 06/14/2011
I view this as the first portion of privatizing Social Security. These are the ground rules for the financial institutions that will handle the bulk of the money. The govt is following orders to determine liabiltiy for the invested funds. The investment-bankers want to be sure they can't be held liable when the system they devise tanks.
06:45 PM on 06/15/2011
They will have all the money and all the property. Gov't will be the trillionaires and banks.
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07:45 PM on 06/15/2011
with wall street at the white house last nite, looks like obama is on board with them
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Scott Zwartz
06:56 PM on 06/14/2011
Caveat Emptor -- Let the buyer beware.

As a high level business woman, how much time did she devote to consumer regulations and how time did she devote to stopping consumer regulations?

She was part of management, so she had a clue how corporate American treats people. Perhaps she made the mistake of over-identifying with the Big Wigs. I recall one case where an employee had been wrongfully fired and her defense was that she had helped to boss discriminate against Blacks and thus she was a good employee who did not deserve to be fired.

Corruption is horrible, but it is a little less upsetting when the "victims" may also have been the perps. A lot of people at Enron were wiped out, but many of them knew that they had been perpetuating a multi-billion fraud.

I do not know about this particular woman, but I've seen plenty of people come to our offices screaming, "There ought to be law," only for us to find out that they supported the repeal of consumer protection statutes. Sometimes karma acts quickly.
09:28 PM on 06/14/2011
You're tough may you may very well be right.
07:45 PM on 06/15/2011
She seems to be a restaurant manager, which is to say that she is not "a high level business woman". As someone who was an Account Manager for a very big 401K firm, I had over two years of training to understand all the rules and regulations.

Did you read the actual lawsuit? I'm guessing no because, they define the job of the person she spoke with at Principal. The person who sold her this product had little training, a script to read from which contained the words "I am not being paid commission" and an internal directive to sell them a preferred product which assessed higher fees than the other 8 products offered. They were told to offer these 9 products in an order determined by how much Principal was to make off the retention of her money. When associates at Principal did not meet the company defined goals, they were disciplined up to and including termination. When they did, they were paid a commission (contrary to the reassuring statement in their script), not just at the time of sale, but for every year after as long as the assets in her account stayed with Principal.

They were not required to disclose which investment product was the lowest fee product and, in fact, those were offered last in the list of 9 products. They also did not inform her that she had the option to leave the money in her 401K account, at a much lower cost to her.
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kemcha
Advocate for the 99ers
05:41 PM on 06/14/2011
What kind of moron, and excuse for for saying because this is what this lady in this story/article is, would allow anyone to switch their retirement savings to another account over a phone?

With all of the phone scammers out there trying to get your personal information and your money, how could anyone NOT be informed about this kind of scam? This is why I do everything in person. I never give up personal information nor my financial information over any phone line or cell phone line.

Stay informed, people, and always demand a face to face meeting before divulging your financial information. When you're on the phone, ask all kinds of questions. Such as company name, what's the purpose of this phone call, what's your phone number so I can call you back ... do your research and you decrease the risk of things like this happening to you.
04:26 PM on 06/14/2011
First they came after my company pension fund, then they came for my personal savings, they caught my house in their loans schemes, the company IRA's are lost thru mismanagement and always they want to take over the only retirement savings left to working people, Social Security.
The greed will never end.
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10:45 PM on 06/14/2011
Thank you! Fan #20 and faved too!
04:19 PM on 06/14/2011
I would be interested to know how many jobs this proposal will eliminate or create! It would seem that our do gooder government and it's bureaucrats are always trying to find ways to make things fair while at the same time they bankrupt us all by making our savings worthless. Hey, life isn't fair - Darwin put it in perspective, you either adapt of die! As to Kerry and his ilk, they all vote in a manner their masters demand. If any of you fools ever get the idea that a congressman or senator has your best interest at heart check your pulse! I have a feeling that this might end up costing our economy thousands of jobs. The only ones that will make out are the lawyers who will use any excuse to sue the "advisers". Maybe a better solution would be to structure more stringent licensing requirements for advisers.
QuantProgrammer
Cap welfare benefits at two kids.
04:53 PM on 06/14/2011
They already have. It's called FINRA. We need smarter regs. Honestly, I think it should be illegal for an advisor to collect compensation from anyone other than the person they are advising.
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MadMadMan
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05:44 PM on 06/14/2011
This comment is just nonsensical. Regulations that protect our air and water and a host of other things are not a problem and have nothing to do with bankrupting our savings. It is the vicious and unregulated greed of Wall Street that brought down the house and nearly the entire world economy and still, the thieving Haves continue to try to find ways to ensure they can pilfer without penalty. Adapt to what "Warnin"? Adapt to them killing you slowly and legally? Not an option.
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11:32 AM on 06/15/2011
ironic that you slam lawyers, who ARE fiduciaries, even in the smallest transactions that barely matter, yet the people who are stealing your entire future are not...