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Temple Weddings Leave Some On Outside, Hurting Inside

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First Posted: 06/14/11 08:27 AM ET Updated: 08/14/11 06:12 AM ET

By Peggy Fletcher Stack
Salt Lake Tribune

SALT LAKE CITY (RNS) You see them on Temple Square nearly every day, pacing nervously or strolling aimlessly, staring down at the tulips or up at the spires.

They are parents, siblings, cousins and friends of Mormon couples being wed inside the LDS sanctuary. But, for one reason or another, they are not allowed inside.

Maybe they are non-Mormons, former Mormons or lapsed Mormons who don't qualify for a "temple recommend" to enter the iconic structure. Whatever the reason, their exclusion can divide families at a time when weddings usually unite them.

What should have been a joyous occasion was "one of the most painful experiences of my life," says Jolene, a Utah County Christian whose daughter became a Mormon and was married in the Salt Lake Temple. "I kissed her goodbye at home and then cried on her sister's shoulder."

For 20 years, the devoted mother (who asked that her last name not be used to not offend her daughter or neighbors) showed up at every important moment in her daughter's life. To be excluded at her daughter's wedding was deeply hurtful, she said.

Some engaged couples soften the pain with a ring ceremony outside the temple, or gather their families near the temple for photos. Others simply feel that the temple ceremony -- which Mormons believe can "seal" a marriage for eternity -- is too important to dilute with other traditions.

"The church is very aware of the issue you raise, and it has been exhaustively discussed over many years," church spokesman Michael Otterson wrote last fall to Jean Brody, a former Mormon in Canada who is concerned about being shut out of her grandchildren's weddings.

"This is a sensitive and difficult issue, with many complexities, not all of which are always apparent."

Jolene has joined with Brody and Michelle Spencer, another Canadian woman, in circulating a petition asking Mormon leaders to allow couples to have a civil wedding first and then choose when they want to go to the temple for the sealing rather than waiting a year as currently required for LDS couples in North America.

For years, many Mormons living outside Utah had a civil ceremony first, then went to an LDS temple as soon as they could. Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, for example, exchanged rings with his wife Ann in a civil ceremony in Michigan and then flew to Utah the next day to be sealed in the Salt Lake Temple.

That two-step approach is still the norm for Mormons in many European and South American countries, where governments require marriage ceremonies be open to the public.

"There is no doctrinal reason for the one-year waiting period," Jolene said. "They would do it if they genuinely valued all families -- as they say they do."

She is not optimistic that the church will change, so when other locked-out parents call her, this is her advice: Put a smile on your face and be as gracious as you can while your heart breaks.

Temple worship is the "highest form of religious expression for Latter-day Saints," said church spokesman Scott Trotter. In these sacred structures, Mormons "make formal commitments to God and receive the crowning sacraments of the faith, including the marriage of couples for eternity."

Because of its significance, only members "who have demonstrated their adherence to the tenets of the faith may enter," Trotter said.

Exclusion is never intended, he added.

"It is the LDS church's hope that having an understanding of the sacredness and significance of a temple marriage can help those who care about the couple share in their joy and feel appreciation for the commitment they have made to each other and to God."

Part of the problem is that weddings have moved from the sacred to the secular, said Brigham Young University sociologist Marie Cornwall. Marriage was once a church-centered celebration but is now seen as a chance to bring everyone together to celebrate the newlyweds.

"Everyone now has relatives who are not religious," she said. "So weddings have become more and more part of the market. Couples are spending huge amounts of money for celebrations to include all their friends."

Modern Mormons with non-temple-going family members have sought ways to satisfy both traditions through extra rituals -- ring ceremonies, elaborate parties, even gatherings that might include prayers, musical selections and a spiritual message from a local LDS leader.

Julie M. Smith, a Mormon convert in Austin, Texas, made her own do-it-yourself ring ceremony at a Houston country club with a wedding march, rings, flowers, bridesmaids, vows and photos. The couple gave their Mormon bishop a word-for-word script to follow.

The LDS church may not encourage ring ceremonies that imitate a traditional wedding, she says, but she felt good about what she did for her family.

"We had about 100 people listening to a Mormon bishop talk about the temple," Smith says. "It was an incredible missionary opportunity."

Smith's one regret? Instead of saying to her parents, "You're going to have everything you dreamed of," she started with, "We are getting married in the temple and you're not invited."

The way couples celebrate their union is the first of many decisions they will make in uniting their two families.

"Many are going to run into problems with church members and nonmembers for the rest of their lives," said Kristi Young, curator of BYU's Wilson Folklore Archives. "How they make this work can be indicative of how they are going to deal with their families at lots of important moments -- like baby blessings, baptisms and priesthood ordinations."

Peggy Fletcher Stack writes for The Salt Lake Tribune.

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By Peggy Fletcher Stack Salt Lake Tribune SALT LAKE CITY (RNS) You see them on Temple Square nearly every day, pacing nervously or strolling aimlessly, staring down at the tulips or up at the spires.
By Peggy Fletcher Stack Salt Lake Tribune SALT LAKE CITY (RNS) You see them on Temple Square nearly every day, pacing nervously or strolling aimlessly, staring down at the tulips or up at the spires.
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01:43 PM on 08/09/2011
My daughter converted to the LDS faith and was married in the Temple. I can personally tell you that it's just not that big of an issue. The hatred and bigotry expressed in these comments is very sad. A temple wedding isn't like a traditional church wedding with music, flowers and pews full of people. It is a very personal ceremony with at most a few close friends or family. Often the couple comes alone. And, no, we were not left out in the cold to wander around. We were inside in a nice waiting area. Afterward we had a large traditional reception with food, dancing and all our friends and relatives. People need to understand that Mormons have a Temple that is used only for very sacred occasions plus there is a church building used for all the traditional things like weekly services, Sunday school, etc. Everyone is welcome in the church and we have attended with her family on several occasions. It would be a nicer world if everyone, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu and others, could agree that there are many paths to salvation and practice a little tolerance for those of the other faiths.
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Tom Iarossi
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10:59 AM on 06/22/2011
A fallen Catholic, I am nonetheless baffled by a comparison between the RC and LDS churches. For the RCs, there is the Vatican and St. Peter's. The complex is built with encircling porticoes made to look like welcoming arms, open to everyone. Anyone can tour the Basilica and the Sistine Chapel, be they Catholic or Muslim or Mormon or atheist.

On the other hand, the LDS church maintains about 140 temples worldwide, but even many Mormons can't enter them, much less "gentiles". To me that speaks volumes.
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AZLibDem
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09:01 AM on 06/23/2011
Secrecy is the hallmark of the cult.
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12:59 PM on 08/08/2011
This is simply ignornance.
10:13 PM on 06/19/2011
Why is there no mention of Temple marriages in the Bible? According to Mormon doctrine "Journal of Discourses " Vol. 2, pg.210 Jesus was being married to Mary and Martha in Cana. Why did He not mention anything on the importance of temple marriages,sealings for time and eternity? Also why was He invited to His own wedding? (John 2:1-2)
05:01 AM on 06/24/2011
Since Mormons beliveve that the Bible is corrupted, they will always take that as an excuse for missing Mormon Doctrine.
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01:02 PM on 08/08/2011
Mormons in no way believe that the "Bible is corrupted." This is simply ignorant and unlearned.
11:16 PM on 06/18/2011
If they're Christians as well I don't see a problem with them entering the temple. Jesus certainly did not teach us to exclude people who want to participate in Church worship. They act as if other denominations are completely different religions...

I'm not Mormon of course so I don't know the extent of their beliefs regarding entering the temple but from the looks of it, it seems kind of wrong.
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COPESTIR3
11:07 PM on 06/18/2011
This is just another example of the lack of empathy toward the suffering of others is evident in this religious tradition. Usually, when I state this there is someone that answers, "But we have a good welfare program." That is not empathy. Empathy is respect and understanding of he pain and suffering other may feel. Religious rules may keep the organized religion going , but not society as whole.
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ConservativeAmongWolves
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04:57 AM on 06/20/2011
Yes, Mormons have rules just to make people suffer. It is such a great motivator for the members, just drive a wedge between them and their non-member families. Cope, you apparently left the Church and had a bad ending. I don't know why you are hung up on the rules, but you made your decision and I'm sure it was appropriate for you. The rules of the Church are acceptable to those of us who stay in.
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COPESTIR3
07:27 PM on 06/20/2011
What you do in your church is fine. But when you get into politics and change the California constitution then you are into politics. When you get into politics you can expect people to disagree with you.
It is not just me personally nor it is it my personal rare experience. My professional life takes me to places where numerous ex-LDS seek healing after their experience in the church. Because I live in a large LDS community the numbers are rather formidable. So don't try to make a an individual crazy thing. I am too old and l have seen too much to allow that argument to stand.
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12:54 PM on 06/18/2011
Mormonism is based on exclusion in a number of aspects--temple weddings are only one of them. Most people don't know about the basic tenants of this religion and they might be a bit shocked if they did. But then Jesus said that he came to split families apart and to bring a sword and not peace -- so what should one expect. Of course these statements by Jesus are not often brought up in Sunday school.
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01:05 PM on 08/08/2011
What is this defecant that is spewing from your mouth?
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meeks
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12:35 PM on 06/17/2011
What is the divorce rate of those who had sealed marriages? If anyone knows, I am curious. Google is not cooperating.
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meeks
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12:41 PM on 06/17/2011
Never mind I found it.
11:40 PM on 06/17/2011
"7th Lowest Divorce Rate: Utah

The divorce rate in Utah was 9.4% in 2008, which is particularly surprising. In past years, Utah’s divorce rate was almost always above the national average. The problem was bad enough that schools started offering ‘divorce education’ courses to students. But this year it dipped."

Source:
http://www.mainstreet.com/slideshow/family/marriage/divorce/most-divorce-loving-states-america
And... data from 2008 U.S. Census Set
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01:06 PM on 08/08/2011
10% divorce rate for temple marriages, as opposed to 50% for secular marriages.

Thats right, the temple is HORRIBLE. Families sticking together and all... what is the world coming to?
09:21 PM on 06/16/2011
Yes, it's sad to be excluded. But I rather have a totally civil wedding myself. Get the licence and that's all. All this other is just froo fraw....If you want to get family together, do it after you get the paper, maybe at your home or someone elses.
04:50 PM on 06/16/2011
"Marriage was once a church-centered celebration but is now seen as a chance to bring everyone together to celebrate the newlyweds."

Marriages have been performed since before religion came to prominence. In fact, marriage is older than religion, so I say it's you sir, and your church doctrines that are backwards.
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Willie12345
03:58 PM on 06/16/2011
I surprised that no one brought of the concept of "two consenting adults". The choice of the wedding location and church is made by two consenting adults. They understand the impact of their decision and have made a choice. The rest of us our "side liners", second guessing their decision, rationale, and thought process.

May be we should leave these people alone ......and work on solving the problems that we own ourselves.
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SoapboxKing
06:13 PM on 06/16/2011
Being forced to choose God or Family is no choice at all. They should never be mutually exclusive.
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Willie12345
06:41 PM on 06/16/2011
People make "forced" choices all of the time. A great many make choices between family and religion or politics or .......... Having said that, how we behavior and treat others during and after the choice makes all of the difference.

If you elect a different life style for various reasons (Sexual Orientation, Religion, Drug Free, Non-materialistic, etc.), how you treat your family after the choice is the issue. The opposite is also true. If your child choices a life style that is not your first choice, do you still love and respect that person.

All of the really big decisions in life Can have huge impact on us. How we respond to these changes or differences says a lot about who we really are. Things don't always have to be mutually exclusive. That choice is often ours to make.
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AZLibDem
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11:56 PM on 06/16/2011
That's all well and good, as long as they are paying for the wedding themselves.
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01:08 PM on 08/08/2011
Temple marriages are 100% free of charge.
03:26 PM on 06/16/2011
Southern Baptists are not any better. In India, some christian converts are not allowed to go back and visit their Hindu families.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dmwTuhmfEA
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ConservativeAmongWolves
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05:00 AM on 06/20/2011
And this is an official Southern Baptist policy? I doubt it.
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MamacitaOfLove
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01:13 AM on 06/16/2011
@DaveNYC Thanks for the answer. There was no room to reply on the subthread.
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ZENNEPHI
12:56 AM on 06/16/2011
Though a "Lapsed" member of the Mormon Church and "Sealed" in Temple
Ordience, in Salt Lake City, and by the attributes of my Church Patriarch...
Hands upon my head with a "Comissioned Melchezedek Tribal Affilation";
I hold steadfast to the Testimony that Joseph Smith Junior, and His Elder
Brother/Patriarch Hyrum, restored life affirming truths to bring into fruition,
the Kingdom of Our Heavenly Father Upon the Earth.
Line Upon Line, Precept Upon Precept.
Apostles were Ordained, as in the time of our Savior; Jesus the Christ. Akin
to the Council of the Twelve in latter days. That direct the affairs of the literal 12-
Tribes scattered at home and overseas. They truley are a traveling Quorum.
Prophet Smith reinstated Judeo-Christian Temple Worship in Geographical
Districts that cover the Melchezedek-Alpha {Fields} of Stakes, Wards, Branches
and Residential Dwellings. Withover 133 Active Temple edifices around the World.
It is faire to ascimilate that the "Power of Active Prayer" is an essential componet,
Along with compairitive seals & ordienence, in Church/State conjoinment.
Thus. Should your Nuptials be united behind those sacred walls, ore set aside
by council of your Bishop, The Judge of Isreal; for past infidelties ore most likley
for non-adherence to our Health Code {Doctorine Sect 89}.
Purify. Like unto our Exemplar Jesus of Nazarth, A "Purge" dosn't always equate
to wrestling with the "Devil" for 40 days in the Wilderness!
What ever you discern that "Dark Force" to be.
Be Good!!!
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Christopher Nicoll
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08:33 AM on 06/16/2011
LOL, that's some of the funniest stuff I've read. It's almost as if someone who's completely_insane_wrote this.
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01:09 PM on 08/08/2011
This coming from someone who's god listens to Slayer. Which god would that be?
10:26 PM on 06/15/2011
Exclusion should not be a new concept when it comes to issues of faith. After all, doesn't Christiani­ty, Islam, and other religions teach and accept the idea of Heaven and Hell. Apparently for Christiani­ty, and as the bible teaches, there will be a judgement day in which individual­s will be excluded from Heaven and thereafter spend eternity in Hell. I mean, what could be worse than an exclusion that last for eternity? Exclusion from a wedding although understand­ably upsetting is nothing compared to exclusion from Heaven, as so many religions believe.
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Christopher Nicoll
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08:45 AM on 06/16/2011
They can have my spot.
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MamacitaOfLove
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07:22 PM on 06/15/2011
I sold real estate for years and worked with a lot of Mormon families that relocated here from Utah. They were some of the greatest people I've ever met. I've been to lots of Mormon activities such as Trunk-or-Treat. The children that I met were lovely without exception.

The lifestyle (very traditional) and the belief system are not something that I would embrace personally. (I also don't care for organized religion in general.) All religions that I can think of exclude and that's a big no-no for me.

The Mormon commitment to family and health is marvelous. Laud them for that!

There is so much anger here. I see it on Catholic threads as well (and feel it myself having been raised Catholic). If everyone would really think, question and examine, the world would be a better place. Some people seem to need a group with guidelines for living whether that is religion, armed forces, whatever. They need an outline and a formula. Let them have it.

I think the thing that bothers most here is blind adherence to ANYTHING.
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ConservativeAmongWolves
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05:00 AM on 06/16/2011
Mammacita......I'm glad your interactions with Mormons was/is so positive. Sometimes. there are those members who do not set the best example.....most likely they are not "active" members of the Church.

As I have stated on a couple of threads, I have questions about SOME aspects of the Church. The orthodoxy I was exposed to omitted a lot of the controversial issues/moments in EARLY Church history. Even with some "warts," the Church is the most logical, down-to-earth, open minded religious organizations on the planet. One has only to listen to the General Authorities speak at our twice annual General Conferences and compare tone, content, depth, etc to other Christian preachers to tell there is a huge difference between them.

I for one can't sort through what was "real revelation" and what wasn't when it comes to Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and other early, "primitive" LDS Church leaders, but the vast majority of what was said and written, and exists today as scripture, is a mirror of the Christian Church as it existed, prior to the Nicean Council, after the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

It is clear that early leaders said some really strange and apparently wrong things. I have labeled the early Church the "primitive" Church, which I compare to today's "modern" Church.I think the main difference between then and now, is that the leaders of the Church, in the past one hundred years, have "learned to shut the hell up."

Part 1
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ConservativeAmongWolves
One guy against a pack of Howlers
05:01 AM on 06/16/2011
Part II

There is no doubt that early in the Church, every thought, idea, utterance, postulation, etc that came into the head of the Prophet was thought of and treated like scripture. I think about 25% of that "material" was uninspired. I believe that doesn't make the other 75% false, but obviously makes it more open to challenge and question. Not everything that pops into the head of a Prophet is inspiration. The early Church leaders were asked about everything and offered their opinions on everything. That was a serious mistake.

If not for some of the "interesting" inspirations of in particular Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, the Church today wouldn't be held back by so much early Church history "baggage." So on one hand, the Church is where it is at thanks to Joseph Smith. On the other, the Church is where it is, and not a lot further along the path to acceptance, expansion, and effectiveness thanks to Joseph Smith.
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Christopher Nicoll
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08:48 AM on 06/16/2011
LOL. Joseph Smith was a snake oil salesman. Nothing more, nothing less. The people follow this nonsense are_fools.
10:26 PM on 06/16/2011
That was too long for people to want to read.