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HAMP: California Homeowner Can't Escape Unwanted Mortgage Modification


First Posted: 06/15/11 05:24 PM ET Updated: 08/15/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Getting a mortgage modification from the Obama administration's anti-foreclosure program can be a tricky process. One California homeowner has found it even more difficult to escape a modification he didn't want.

Stacy Wilson of Plumas Lake, Calif., said he sought reduced monthly mortgage payments from Bank of America via the government's Home Affordable Modification Program in April 2010 after his salary was reduced. People who are current on their mortgage but could face "imminent default" because of reduced income are eligible for the program, which can lower monthly payments by hundreds of dollars.

Wilson, who works as a researcher for the California Postsecondary Education Commission, said Bank of America repeatedly lost his paperwork before finally offering a trial modification in January. After reading news stories about HAMP's potential pitfalls for homeowners, Wilson reconsidered.

"After carefully reading all documents sent to me, I realize that my good credit might be adversely affected if I participate in the program," Wilson wrote in a letter he faxed and emailed to the bank. "Since November 2007, when I purchased my home, I have never missed a mortgage payment, nor have I ever been late on a payment. Maintaining good credit and faithfully honoring all financial obligations is extremely important to me, as taught to me by my grandmother, Blanch Jones."

Another risk homeowners bear when applying for HAMP modifications is that if they make reduced payments during the trial phase and are then rejected for the permanent mod, they owe the bank a big chunk of money: the difference between the sum of their reduced payments and what they would have paid normally, plus late fees. And the foreclosure process will have already started. (Though fewer people should find themselves in this situation since HAMP's application requirements were tightened in 2010.)

According to an email Wilson shared with HuffPost, a Bank of America loan modification specialist responded, "I completely understand your position and I wish you the very best. If there is anything you need in the future, please advise."

Wilson continued making his full monthly payments, according to a copy of his bank statement. Yet correspondence he soon received from Bank of America suggested his decision not to do a HAMP mod had been ignored. "You are currently participating in a Home Affordable Modification Trial Period Plan," said a letter that invited him to make payments nearly $200 lower than normal.

Since January, "each month I would receive a statement saying that my loan was in modification even though it wasn't," Wilson wrote in a Tuesday email. "Each month I would call BOA asking that the situation be corrected. Each time I was told that the problem would be corrected. Now, this month I received my loan statement saying that there was a past due amount of $2,216.72, with a late charge of $78.50."

Wilson said he received a phone call on Tuesday evening from the office of a bank executive who said the situation would be corrected immediately. The executive said Wilson would receive a new statement showing no past due amount within a week.

"If this happened to me," Wilson asked, "how many other people are in the same situation?"

A lot of people have had trouble with HAMP. More than 843,000 homeowners have had their trial or permanent modifications canceled since the program launched in 2009, according to Treasury Department data, while fewer than 610,000 homeowners remain in permanent mods. The failure of the program to reach its stated goal of modifying mortgages for 3 to 4 million homeowners owes largely to its failure to punish banks for violating the program's guidelines, according to homeowner advocates and federal auditors.

The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and other federal bank regulators recently issued an order requiring banks to treat their HAMP customers better, including by giving them a single point-of-contact throughout the application process, though homeowner advocates are skeptical banks will face consequences for disobedience.

Bank of America did not comment on Wilson's situation in a statement to HuffPost (banks generally don't comment on individual customers).

"In response to customer feedback and prior to the OCC review, we began assigning customer relationship managers to improve communication and provide greater clarity throughout the entire modification process, reducing handoffs and making things more seamless and effective for customers," the bank said. "Today, we are well along toward enacting a single point of contact process, which we expect to have through the consent order review process and implemented later this year."


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WASHINGTON -- Getting a mortgage modification from the Obama administration's anti-foreclosure program can be a tricky process. One California homeowner has found it even more difficult to escape a mo...
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05:23 AM on 07/31/2011
oh and remember...BEGGERS CAN'T BE CHOOSERS!!!!

Who do you think "pays" for these "programs"....?

People like ME who was responsible enough to handle my finances!

Oh and I OWN my home. Something most of you beggers can't say, cause what your definition of owning is "renting from the bank"...
05:17 AM on 07/31/2011
wow all I see from comments are...."gee I bought a house and now the value is going down. Big Brother bail me out?!"

no one forced you to buy a house. If you signed on to a $300,000 loan with adjustable rate, you knew damn well what you were signing up for.

I get so tired of these "big bad banks"....sure they are corrupt, evil greedy capitalists. But no one forced you to sign on the dotted line. Take some personal responsiblity for crying out loud.

I get so tired of these debt entitlement mentality of you people. Like you have the right to sign on risky loans to buy a house that you really can't afford. (if you don't have enough cash on hand to make mortgage payments for a year even with zero income, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY)

The thing that pisses me off the most is when people say, "ive owned my house for 30 years....and now the bank is forclosing on me...boo hoo"... while failing to mention they dipped in the house equity many times and used their house as atm....

Quit expecting hand outs, live within your means, pull your sleeves up and get to work.

Just tired of you lazy irresponsible people.....I bought my home in 1988 with 8.5% APR for $89,000. Paid it off in 5 years because I saved and never dipped into my home.
06:44 AM on 06/26/2011
This is what happens when you deal with large bureaucratic banks. They do things their own automated way. God forbid you should have a situation that is somewhat unique (like the guy in the article.)

I went through this process about a year ago. I found the whole thing stressful and depressing.
I would recommend working with a professional who can walk you through the process. That could either be a lawyer or mortgage expert, or a some other sort of personal advocate.

I would recommend these guys. 1-888-301-9544.

Because the process is so emotional having somebody who can think clearly and not get caught up in the situation is a big help. Also, working with somebody who knows and understand the whole process makes everything much easier.

They know what to do and who to contact when the bank "loses your paperwork"
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Caseybug
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03:34 AM on 06/17/2011
The failure of the program to reach its stated goal of modifying mortgages for 3 to 4 million homeowners owes largely to its failure to punish banks for violating the program's guidelines.

That should be all the justification we need to nationalize these law breakers.
07:03 PM on 06/16/2011
Banks lose homeowners paper work on purpose! They know that they will get 60% back end from FDIC if they foreclose properties.
09:22 PM on 06/16/2011
I had a dispute with BofA and they claimed they lost my paper work - several times.I think they get more than 60% due to creative accounting . Also , the story states that BofA gets several thousand dollars every time they enroll someone in HAMP so I think it is no accident that they continually enroll people who merely enquire about the program.
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10:04 PM on 06/16/2011
Ya, funny how they said they lost your paper work when my lender said the same thing in 2009. Hmm. How about that.
03:45 PM on 06/16/2011
Wow! BoA will do anything to get people to go into Foreclosure! this is crazy let it be known that Loan modifications and HAMP are just scams and ways to get people to be lead to foreclosure we can not let them win!

the best thing to do is a forensic loan investigation, but that's not enough a securitisation audit on top of that will track down and find all the facts and fraud that has happened to home owners in the past 10 years so then they can use that information to go up against those that are trying to foreclose with hard evidence. we do that here at mortgageclaimcenter.com

Disclaimer: we are not attorneys and do not offer legal advice. We help home owners find the facts and get the information they need to make a case that will actually hold.
04:15 PM on 06/16/2011
The best thing to do is to call a HUD-certified counselor.

"Call 1-888-995-HOPE for free personalized advice from housing counseling agencies certified by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). This national hotline – open 24/7 – is operated by the Homeownership Preservation Foundation, a nonprofit member of the HOPE NOW Alliance of mortgage industry members and HUD-certified counseling agencies. For free guidance online, visit www.hopenow.com. For free information on the President’s plan to help homeowners, visit www.makinghomeaffordable.gov. "
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06:30 PM on 06/16/2011
Did that at the beginning of 2009. Within minutes they said foreclose.
07:04 PM on 06/16/2011
Fact: Hud is a third party non profit agency developed to delay the process of further taking your home. Oh wait I mean getting one said homeowner to leave it gracefully to the bank. When on hold with HUD pay attention to the music in the background, listen carefully, it states that they are sponsored by big banks, government agencies, oh and the credit bureau. The three biggest culprits involved in this scam. LOAN MODIFICATIONS DO NOT EXIST. What does exist is a refinance or a new home loan neither of which most of America currently qualifies for. If you ask your so called HUD counselor in regards to the outcome of going through their program they will note it is no more than a "gamble"
I will also note through personal experience that their is no better person than the individual going directly through the banking party when trying to get one of these fake loan modifications done. In the event they actually do something for you, buyer beware for at anytime the bank chooses to they will simply send a notice of default stating that you now owe the balance of your unpaid mortgage now. IE you no longer fit into this program, you never were in this program, this program no longer exists. Good Luck with that HUD program paid for by the bank taking your house tomorrow. WE CAN BE REACHED AT 1-800-552-9313 if you would like further information regarding this matter
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10:38 PM on 06/16/2011
Oh ya, and watch out for mortgage rescue scams. Huh, MortgageCCO
03:05 PM on 06/17/2011
Yes, watch out for mortgage rescue scams because there are a ton out there. You should do what any smart consumer should do, and that is research. But It’s important to understand what is really going on.

1st a story and video of a family who fought the bank and won! http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Banking-on-Saving-the-American-Dream-121547159.html

60 Minutes came out with this documentary this past spring about the housing crash, Robo signers, and the fraud companies are committing right now
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/04/01/60minutes/main20049646.shtml

Inside Job a documentary on Wall Street and their play in the game
http://mortgageclaimcenter.com/videos/418/

A link to the Wall street Journal about a family in Michigan: and how they stopped foreclosure because they presented the facts
http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2011/06/10/in-michigan-case-securities-trip-up-foreclosure/

A Link and story about MERS and how they don't have the right to foreclose but they do anyways
http://www.newswire.net/newsroom/permalink/69344.html

The banks and those in power don't want you to know you can fight this. We are not here to scam people we are here to help. We do a lot more than just giving you the facts but we guide you through a three step process and help you go up against the those in power. www.mortgageclaimcenter.com
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Thomas Edward Allen
03:17 PM on 06/16/2011
I have been in and out of review with BofA since July 2010. There is a trustee sale date of July 6th coming up and I'm still in limbo in the house of smoke and mirrors. This last Monday...calling back a missed call from a BofA 877 phone number, a woman told me that I was not currently being looked at for ANY program. I told her that I was holding a BofA letter thanking me for providing the necessary documents, and that I was under review (this letter dated May 18th). This completely fried my circuits. I made all kinds of calls (to my HUD counselor, back to BofA where I was told there was no posted sale date on my property). I came home from work depressed, shaking, exhausted. I made another call to BofA, and got a different number for "advocacy". Not 10 minutes after I got off the phone, in comes another call from the 877#. I get it this time, and it is automated. it verifies my zip code for the property, then says, "I am in the final stages of modification review, and I will receive an answer by mail".
I have a paralegal working on a government escalation review, and a completely new packet of info (the 7th time since July 2010) being sent by my HUD advocated. And I'm still potentially 20 days from the sale of our home.
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12:27 PM on 06/16/2011
Hey Arthur

Thanks for spotlighting this storyline because too many people don't know what is really going on. The problem here is that Bank of America has a mess with Countrywide bad mortgage notes.

This is how homeowners will know if Countrywide had something to do with the mortgage securitization of the loan:

BAC HOME LOANS SERVICING
LP FORMERLY KNOWN AS or FKA
COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS

The homeowners who are getting abused the most are the ones who have not educated themselves on improper mortgage securitization. True Bank of America will offer them the worst HAMP loan modification on the planet if they don't know what is wrong with the loan. Nightmares of being told the loan modification was denied after being told it was approved. Just jerking families around!

Smart homeowners like the ones who use Go Fight Foreclosure System (Google It!) are able to force Bank of America into giving them a better loan by pointing out improper mortgage securitization.

Bank of America is under fire! Homeowners can use improper mortgage securitization to show that the bank does not have enforceable security interest to stop foreclosure. Plus this also gives the homeowner an advantage to get reduced principal balances and lower interest rates.

I have seen loan modifications with principal balances reduced by over 100k on the average 150k mortgage. It does not take paying thousands of dollars for forensic loan audits done by so called experts. These experts have very little experience in the mortgage financial industry.
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12:34 PM on 06/16/2011
Already a fan, but faved! I don't know anything about your Go Fight Foreclosure System and cannot advise others on that, but B of A is INDEED under fire. I'm doing my part. Sued them last fall and the judge allowed it to proceed. In discovery now. Things should start getting interesting, after (if) they stop their stalling. Other places for free help or discussion of mortgage (nothing-backed) backed security problems include loansafe.org, livinglies wordpress, 4closurefraud, foreclosure hamlet, naked capitalism, mandelman matters, matt weidner blog, the big picture, zero hedge, max gardner blog, chink in the armor (MERS).
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NHGranite
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02:09 PM on 06/16/2011
Keep us posted, will you? F&F
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02:10 PM on 06/16/2011
Would that be similar to JPMChase and their takeover of Washington Mutual?
11:58 AM on 06/16/2011
I was involved in this program with Citibank in 2009. They lowered my mortgage payment substantially. I made my payments on time and 15 months into the program I get a letter saying I was no longer qualified and I owe all back savings in the amount of $ 22,500.00. A
fter several phone calls and letters to Citibank I sold my house. Do not get involved in any federal assistance program.
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02:59 PM on 06/16/2011
Is there a statute of limitation on such illegality? States are going after this kind of scam, please contact them. At least add your story to the state agency. I hope more happens.
09:31 PM on 06/16/2011
They probably also added interest , attorneys fees , late fees and more assorted fees .
11:26 AM on 06/16/2011
The Obama administration gives short shift to those who elected him. While his Chief of Staff (former Chase Vice Chairmen) Daley cavorts with his crony Banker friends - giving them whatever they want. Delayed Derivatives rules - no problem, Mortgage Fraud - no problem, Foreclosure Fraud - "not hearing anything". Another WAR for the military/defense industrial complex to profit from - NO WE ARE TALKING. Load up the C-5as with another $20 BILLION in unmarked cash - it's going to be a PARTY!!! WOHOOO!!!!
10:44 AM on 06/16/2011
What the government needs to do is to dismantle the banking and credit card companies and start from scratch.
All debt should be forgiven and written off. That way they could start with a clean slate and make it right.
Too bad for the wall street and banks.
But they should want to sacrifice the same as some poor person who has to live on the steets.
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02:16 PM on 06/16/2011
The GOVERNMENT can dismantle this system? How will that happen? We can't even get the incredible Elizabeth Warren OK'd to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? The Reps want that agency stripped before they agree to her appointment.
08:56 AM on 06/16/2011
More government is not the solution.
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Phil Waste
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10:03 AM on 06/16/2011
Government is all we got to protect us people from predatory banks and plutocrats. Strong regulations and enforcement is what is needed. There is only one reason to have a government of the people and that is to protect those people from the predators.
09:36 PM on 06/16/2011
The SEC didn't do anything to stop Madoff and in general SEC lawyers want lucrative Wall St jobs so they don't want to offend anyone. Our best defense against banking crooks (redundant) is lawyers who sue them into oblivion and investigative journalists who expose corruption .Regulations wont do anything because next time some bankster created bubble bursts, the govt will bail them out again so they can afford their Hamptons beach houses while others lose their houses.
11:21 AM on 06/16/2011
More Corporate Kleptomania is not the answer either. We have become indentured slaves to the our debt wielding masters. AND WHEN THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR BILLS - WE GIVE THEM ENDLESS ZERO INTERESTS LOANS AND BAILOUT GIFTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARE YOU JUST ANOTHER STOOGE FOR THESE FEUDAL LORDS???
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Valar morghulis
12:38 PM on 06/16/2011
Yes, the last line is true...that one definitely IS a stooge.
redonthehead
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08:47 AM on 06/16/2011
So our borrower here wanted something for nothing and found out that there were strings attached. Now he's whining that once he was in it was hard to get out. My question is why was he in the program in the first place if he could afford to make his payments?
08:56 AM on 06/16/2011
He opted NOT to participate in the program after carefully evaluation of the risks.
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Robert SF
10:28 AM on 06/16/2011
He was never in. Re-read the article.
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08:16 AM on 06/16/2011
EVERYTHING in Washington is WRONG. we need to demand that congress pass the 28th amendment...the congressional reform act of 2011....and we need to vote out every incumbent, every election, every time...just because. it's our only way to take back the power that they have grabbed.
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Mrald
Not to decide....is to decide.
08:53 AM on 06/16/2011
I am with you on those thoughts. The house and senate created this mess...we need to get rid of the incumbents.
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Peter007
09:21 AM on 06/16/2011
People hate the Congress but they love their own Congressman.
08:11 AM on 06/16/2011
We really have to ask why this administration has not let homeowners use their principal place of residence as part of their bankruptcy as Robert Reich has proposed and the only answer I can find is that they have more empathy for the banks than they do for the people stuck with bad mortgages because they need the campaign cash from the banks that they could never get from ordinary Americans losing their homes.
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Lolie Culley
08:51 AM on 06/16/2011
True
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Peter007
09:22 AM on 06/16/2011
Because that means changing the rules in the middle of the game to benefit a special interest group at the expense of another.
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Valar morghulis
12:40 PM on 06/16/2011
"changing the rules in the middle of the game to benefit a special interest group at the expense of another."

You mean like the Wall Street/bankster bailouts at the expense of taxpayers?