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Cuba: Sea Levels To Rise More Than 30 Inches By 2100

Cuba Sea Rise Levels 2100 Climate Change

ar/pdo   06/17/11 03:09 PM ET   AP

HAVANA -- Cuban scientists calculate that median sea levels around the Caribbean nation will rise more than 30 inches by the end of the century due to global climate change, official media said Friday.

Models predict the sea will rise 10.6 inches (27 centimeters) by 2050, and 33.5 inches (85 centimeters) by 2100, Abel Centella, scientific director of the country's Meteorological Institute, was quoted by Communist Party daily Granma as saying.

There were no details of what preparations the island is undertaking, but Granma said scientists are closely monitoring sea levels.

Government scientist Marcelino Hernandez warned of the need to protect environments that can mitigate the effects of sea encroachment.

"Right now it is urgent to preserve mangroves, coral reefs, sea grass and sand beaches," Hernandez was quoted as saying. "Each of these ecosystems is a natural barrier to defend the coasts from the impact of climate change. If they deteriorate, the consequences will be worse."

International scientific studies have projected sea levels will rise between 30 and 75 inches (190 centimeters) by the end of the century, fed by melting glaciers and ice caps.

The rises will not be uniform worldwide due to currents, winds and other factors.

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11:12 PM on 06/24/2011
Communist Cuban scientists...sounds credible to me. It's not like they would falsely propogate an ideology that is detrimental to the U.S. economy. No politics, here. The Castro brothers love the United States...
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
11:34 AM on 06/27/2011
Nonsense. Cuban scientists follow the same protocols and scientific processes as Chinese, Russian or US scientists. The scientific community is international.
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ClimateHawk
Think before posting.
07:00 PM on 06/21/2011
New info about sea levels, concluding they are rising faster now than at any other time in the last 2000 years.

http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=119841&org=NSF&from=news
07:11 PM on 06/21/2011
Oh. Michael Mann. One of the high priests. What next, will they read the innards of birds for a climate signal? (old birds, of course)
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Publicola
Facts are stubborn things
07:54 PM on 06/21/2011
Q. Why can't science deniers understand the difference between science and religion?

A. Because they are science deniers, of course.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
09:18 PM on 06/21/2011
I knew one of the deniers would see the name Michael Mann and pretend the whole paper was fictitious.  I guess Mann must have convinced the other scientists to go along with his evil intent.
07:49 AM on 06/21/2011
The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The world has been a very good experiment in whether capitalism or socialism is to be preferred. Do you dare to look at the results? Same goes for Christianity vs any other religion or lack of religion. Oh my! Now the venom is coming out!
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Publicola
Facts are stubborn things
12:37 PM on 06/21/2011
In your mind are Social Security and Medicare "socialism"?

Either way please explain your answer; thanks.
07:30 AM on 06/23/2011
Yes, as in of course. They are programs that steal from one person to give to another in order to buy votes Theft is theft regardless of legal legal codification that tries to hide the fact. The 2 commandments that are violated wholesale in this country are: Thou shalt not steal, and Thou shalt not covet.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
09:19 PM on 06/21/2011
Your post has nothing to do with sea level rise or the science of warming.
07:31 AM on 06/23/2011
Only peripherally, but then a great many posts have little to do with the article in question.
07:39 AM on 06/21/2011
Cuban scientists?!
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
09:21 PM on 06/21/2011
American literates?
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
09:07 AM on 06/22/2011
Makes the case that there should be a thinking test before being allowed to type.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
10:50 PM on 06/20/2011
"No one does more to spread dangerous disinformation about global warming than Murdoch. In a year of rec­ord heat waves in Africa, freak snowstorms in America and epic flooding in Pakistan, the Fox network continued to dismiss climate change as nothing but a conspiracy by liberal scientists and Big Government. Glenn Beck told viewers the Earth experienced no warming in the past decade -- the hottest on record. Sean Hannity declared that "global warming doesn't exist" and speculated about "the true agenda of global-warming hysterics." Even Brian Kilmeade, co-host of the chatty Fox & Friends, laughed off the threat of climate change, joking that the real problem was "too many polar bears.""

"Murdoch's entire media empire, it would seem, is set up to deny, deny, deny. The Wall Street Journal routinely dismisses climate change as "an apocalyptic scare," and Fox News helped gin up a fake controversy by relentlessly hyping the "climategate" scandal -- even though independent investigations showed that nothing in the e-mails stolen from British climate researchers undercut scientific conclusions about global warming."

"Murdoch knows better. In 2007, he warned that climate change "poses clear, catastrophic threats" and promised to turn News Corp. into a model of carbon neutrality. But at his media outlets, manufacturing doubt about global warming remains official policy. During the 2009 climate summit in Copenhagen, the Washington editor of Fox News ordered the network's journalists to never mention global warming "without immediately pointing out that such theories are based upon data that critics have called into question." Murdoch may be striving to go green in his ­office buildings, but on air, the only thing he's recycling are the lies of Big Coal and Big Oil." [Rolling Stone, 2/3/11]
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Jeremyewilliams
Reality is not the GOPs cup of tea!
07:34 PM on 06/20/2011
Money only makes the world burn, not turn. Only the wealthy benefit from 'classes'. From the day we are born we are thrown into a game called capitalism­, it's forced. Our choice in the matter? We do not have one. A lot of people are blind to this.

Living life, I find myself not needing all of these 'things' I have. My biggest fear? Being an old man looking back with nothing to show except a few material possession­s (money). Society, somehow, convinces me that I need a lot of 'things' that aren't necessary and that I should work my life away to obtain them... when in actuality I only need love, shelter, a means for food, and family.

The corporate machine holds us as slaves and hopes we'll never notice; that we'll continue to live like robots with the false hope of getting rich. Success is measured in $$$ and not happiness.

It's a vicious cycle and the end is near, or at least I hope it is. The truth is true, and it is that the lives we live are not sustainabl­e. The earth has given us life, and in return we spit in its metaphoric­al face!

The cake is a lie.
:)
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
10:12 PM on 06/20/2011
Capital dissects and bisects our lives, commodifying everything it touches, including our very bodies. It has no instrinsic value, and only becomes "real" through the process of reification. Thus, endless sameness becomes difference, while ontological difference slips into homogeneity. Capital demands the insane logic of reason reduced to mere measure. It is schi/zoid, paranoid, and utterly subsumed by its own skin, which reflects, like the queen's magic mirror, what we want to see, not what is.
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Jeremyewilliams
Reality is not the GOPs cup of tea!
07:37 PM on 06/22/2011
Agreed. I like your vocabulary.
01:21 AM on 06/24/2011
Dam! I'll have what He's having .
But dont forget the cream filled crispy cremes for later
03:18 PM on 06/21/2011
I have to say you are spot on sir. The corporate masters peddle this false hope that everyone can be rich if they only try hard. However plain facts are that for capitalism to be "capitalism" there MUST be rich and there more importantly MUST be poor people (for them to be rich in comparison to as well as to work to make them rich). There is no avoiding this fact that the entire system depends on there being a large amount of poor people compared to a small number of wealthy people (if we all had equal wealth it'd be socialism right??).

And now we sit around arguing about ways to "grow the economy" and put people to work to earn money to spend, as if there is a mythical pile of money out there someone doesn't already have claim to.

GLADoS is Still Alive.
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Jeremyewilliams
Reality is not the GOPs cup of tea!
07:35 PM on 06/22/2011
Fanned.
01:28 AM on 06/24/2011
I think money is actually mythical , since we'e abandoned the gold standard to back up the paper printed by the government , and the supply has been artificially expanded by the credit card companies,there is actually nothing of real value there ,just smoke and mirrors .
03:28 PM on 06/20/2011
Yet another lame, blatant attempt at trough-snouting by an impoverished nation wanting to get aboard the IPCC-led gravy train and demand their latest tranche of guilt-cash from the so-called 'developed nations'.

It has been proven by many decades of real-world observations that sea level rise has decelerated from minimal to insignificant, and the world has entered a cooling phase.

This sort of postulation is so tired and over-worked that only the most ardent accolytes of the CAGW doctrine will suck it in. And suck it in they will, with relish.

Give it a rest.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
04:09 PM on 06/20/2011
What are you a professional in again? All I ever see from you is top-loading the threads with unfounded allegations and smears.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
04:30 PM on 06/20/2011
Bzakey3 makes the outrageous assertions: " . . . several outrageous unfounded assertions with no science to back them up, hot air really . . ."

Another standard load of denier steamers.
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OcotilloKid
Conservatives work..liberals are the entertainment
09:10 AM on 06/20/2011
And now we find another set of doctored data from the scientists?...er high priests of the religion of gullible worming. When will you gullible wormers learn that your religion is a false one?

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/what-glacial-isostatic-adjustment-gia-and-why-do-you-correct-it
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Publicola
Facts are stubborn things
09:21 AM on 06/20/2011
Why can't science deniers understand the difference between science and religion?

Because they are science deniers, of course.

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National Academy of Sciences, 2010

What is Known about Climate Change

Science has made enormous progress toward understanding climate change. As a result, there is a strong, credible body of evidence, based on multiple lines of research, documenting that Earth is warming. Strong evidence also indicates that recent warming is largely caused by human activities, especially the release of greenhouse gases through the burning of fossil fuels.

Global warming is closely associated with other climate changes and impacts, including rising sea levels, increases in intense rainfall events, decreases in snow cover and sea ice, more frequent and intense heat waves, increases in wildfires, longer growing seasons, and ocean acidification. Individually and collectively, these changes pose risks for a wide range of human and environmental systems. While much remains to be learned, the core phenomenon, scientific questions, and hypotheses have been examined thoroughly and have stood firm in the face of serious scientific debate and careful evaluation of alternative explanations.

http://dels.nas.edu/resources/static-assets/materials-based-on-reports/reports-in-brief/Science-Report-Brief-final.pdf
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wsmith3023
Dems and Reps are two sides of the same coin
11:39 AM on 06/21/2011
Knowing about something and not doing anything is worse than not knowing or denying. The scientists say that the water is going to rise period. London will be under 6 feet of water by the end of 200 years. Then there will be a panic?
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wsmith3023
Dems and Reps are two sides of the same coin
11:56 AM on 06/21/2011
What do we need to do to save the world as we know it?
Believe in the words of the climatologists and the world will be saved.
And vote for far-left politicians. They are the instruments
of the world's salvation.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
09:45 AM on 06/20/2011
There are several standard denier talking points, coordinated and emphasized by Big Oil PR firms such as Heartland.

Those points are:
Al Gore
scientists fudged the data
climatology is a scam
all of climatology is a religion
those who understand the science are all believers of this scam religion

Here, the OcotilloKid manages to get in about three of those standards. No other content. Nothing of the science of it. Just Big Oil talking points.
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OcotilloKid
Conservatives work..liberals are the entertainment
10:14 AM on 06/20/2011
Did you read the link I provided?
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
10:20 AM on 06/20/2011
Not interested in your link or your wild claims. I have seen that very issue reviewed by climatologists and I am satisfied with their determinations. I am certainly not going to subscribe to your unsubstantiated claims which come right out of the standard denier playbook. You are not a player, you are just a repeater. You know; FOX where "We make up stuff and you repeat it."
01:07 AM on 06/20/2011
This is AWESOME. Not to mention it is proof that the Climate Change debate is over and the Global Warmongers have lost to REAL science.

All Global Warmonger science has been proven wrong by advanced satellite data. Real live scientists in the US can no longer support the ridiculous ramblings of the Church of Climatology. They really really want to because their grant funding depends on it. But unfortunately, all that pesky REAL LIFE DATA just says that CO2 isn't going to destroy the planet.

The fact that we are seeing pathetic stories from third rate scientists from backwater nations who have ZERO technical capabilites only goes to prove how little is left to the 'arrrrrgghhhh we're all gonna die because of CO2' movement.

A bunch of cuban scientists with 1982 IBM PCs have calculated with any level of accuracy that sea levels will rise????????????

Yup, I have so much confidence in these guys that I'm buying beachfront real estate in Orlando and I'll cut you in CHEAP.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
01:52 AM on 06/20/2011
Absolute trolling and agitating by this serial denier. Luchan, you apparently have no problem with bald face prevaricating.
02:55 AM on 06/20/2011
You seem to be a major league science denier.

No worries.

Everybody is laughing at you.
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chrisd3
Inconceivable!
07:05 AM on 06/20/2011
In case anyone was wondering why this serial denier didn't document any of his claims, it's because you can't really document outrageous lies.
12:47 AM on 06/20/2011
And these cuban scientists figured this out by using advanced abacuses.

They lack even a modicum of credibility.

The folks in the US with REALLY bad excel spreadsheets haven't been able to get their models right for the last 20 years and WE HAVE SUPERCOMPUTERS.

And somehow can believe a group of cuban 'scientists' using 30 year old calculators and 1982 IBM PCs telling us what sea levels are going to be in 90 years?

Give me a break.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
01:24 AM on 06/20/2011
A made up crock of horse manure, as expected from this chronic denier. Hey Frank, do you ever have something nice to say?
03:11 AM on 06/20/2011
You bet I do.

I can't wait to see this ridculous Cuban 'science' make up the central argument to the upcoming 2014 IPCC assessment report. A bunch of 3rd world hacks with IBM 8088 pcs and dos 4.0 programs.

When this stuff gets out we'll take the CO2 levels from 340ppm to 500ppm within weeks from millions of people laughing so darn hard.

Gosh this is funny. Uselss as science but funny.

That was nice wasn't it? Exposing fraud is ALWAYS nice.
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chrisd3
Inconceivable!
07:12 AM on 06/20/2011
Here is Frank, whose comments consists of insults, innuendo, and lies, and never, ever, any actual science.

He can't actually dispute the numbers, so instead he just makes up a bunch of ridiculous malarkey. That's easy for him: He's had lots of practice, since ridicule is the only arrow in his quiver. There's certainly no science in there.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
07:16 AM on 06/20/2011
"And somehow can believe a group of cuban 'scientist­s' using 30 year old calculator­s and 1982 IBM PCs telling us what sea levels are going to be in 90 years?"

Where is the science which says they are wrong?
10:07 AM on 06/20/2011
Not a SINGLE prediction the Church of Climatology has made over the last 20 years has come to pass.

Not One.

You folks are have a ZERO prediction rate. Not a SINGLE thing you have ever said about climate has come to pass. NOTHING. You've had 20 YEARS. 1/5 of a Century. You should have gotten SOMETHING right. But instead you have NOTHING right.

That 'science'.

Science is about using a 'method' to tease the 'truth' out of complex issues.

You folks have abused the 'method' to demand an 'outcome' from a set of data that is unrelated to science or the truth.

It was only a matter of time before you folks started putting all your eggs into the commie dictatator basket. Cuba's politics are RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY.
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BluePhantom2
The Blacksmith & the Artist reflected in their art
07:00 PM on 06/19/2011
They must have heard that the Palastinian authory is trying to get GREEN MONEY from the UN so they don't want to miss the free money!
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MikeWebster
Always happy.
10:24 PM on 06/19/2011
So what is the excuse for US scientists, and English scientists, and qualified scientists from every other country in the world.

Or are you new enough to this to think that the Cuban's are proposing something contrary to what the rest of the world's scientists are already predicting?
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wsmith3023
Dems and Reps are two sides of the same coin
03:00 AM on 06/20/2011
I have no problem with the scientists. It is the political machines that are using this "crisis" as ammunition to fight each other. It is the profit takers that sell the word "Green" with zero benefit to the environment.
We need to wean ourselves off of our addiction to fossil fuels 40 years ago.
This is not going to happen politically. Politicians only want to be elected or re-elected and find new ways to apply hidden taxes on the lower and middle class. Neither party is for the "common folk." Both parties are for "we are in control of the money." Both parties are the "Party of NO."
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BluePhantom2
The Blacksmith & the Artist reflected in their art
07:03 PM on 06/21/2011
But it's not the rest of the worlds scientists really. Most buy into it at some point but most still have a lot of research they want to do. This seems like the latest failed fad to me but I'm not a scientist looking for grant $$$!
05:32 PM on 06/19/2011
AL GORE You better cut that global warming out-- now go to your energy efficient room. HAPPY FATHERS DAY I LOVE YOU DAD
03:50 PM on 06/19/2011
Just because Cuba is communist does not meant they do not have wily scientists who can model how much coastal damage will come to Cuba in X years in the future and therefore calculate how many free allotments of carbon credits Cuba gets now as a "disadvantaged developing economy" to fish for dollars and Euros in international carbon exchanges. All UN authenticated carbon credits, naturally.

If they had no shame at all the Cubans could rightfully blame their marxist-leninist kleptocracy for a lack of development of industry, thereby producing less GHGs and deserving huge more and new allotments of free carbon credits. Yes, the wonkies will argue "that's additionality", but the "additionality" problem is only one for economists who actually believe in cap and trade, and don't understand the scam.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
05:31 PM on 06/19/2011
"Just because Cuba is communist does not meant they do not have wily scientists who can model how much coastal damage will come to Cuba in X years in the future and therefore calculate how many free allotments of carbon credits..."

What free allotment of carbon credits? Do you know the calculations to be wrong?
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MikeWebster
Always happy.
10:28 PM on 06/19/2011
Of course the correct people to blame for Cuban lack of development are the US, who contine to blockade an impoverished country after almost 50 years, and actively prevent it's development. All because the Cuban's took back their Government from the American supported dictatorship.

In the meantime, on some measures they still do better than the US. In particular their health outcomes are better than the US.

In the meantime, their scientists are making predictions that are completely in accord with American scientists predictions. So at least science continues without the taint of dark ages political ideology that maintains the blockade.
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nellre
growth is not sustainable
02:03 PM on 06/19/2011
I am so sick of the "by 2100" caveat as if everything will be normal and suddenly all hell breaks loose.
We will be feeling the effects of sea level rise well before 2100... just like we are seeing drought followed by torrential rains and floods now.

Of course the scientists must shout at the top of their collective lungs that we can't pin any of that on climate change. Forget that we're seeing 100 year floods every other year... nothing happening here, move along
http://growthisnotsustainable.blogspot.com/2011/06/link-between-climate-change-and-joplin.html
04:01 PM on 06/19/2011
"I am so sick of the "by 2100" caveat"

Let me explain. 2050 and 2100 are Kyoto treaty target datum levels. That is why you will see those exact years a lot in these stories. The other numbers that you will also see are percentages, percentage numbers of GHG emissions by a certain year. "Denmark agrees to new cuts to 33% by Year X" and such headlines.

The years and percentage numbers (and others) are vital data for accountants and the like to calculate and predict the value of present and future carbon offsets. Here the Cubans need not offer percentage cuts because they are a developing country.

When you see articles saying European country X agrees to new higher cuts, that signals that carbon credits need to be propped up. The European carbon exchanges has already collapsed in its short life. The Cubans better hurry!
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nellre
growth is not sustainable
04:55 PM on 06/19/2011
Thanks, but this article was not targeting accountants. Plain folks like me need to be able to put it in context of our everyday lives.
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
08:10 PM on 06/19/2011
More white noise...
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MikeWebster
Always happy.
10:36 PM on 06/19/2011
Unfortunately, the article shows prescious little understanding of the issues.

Of course the real shism between deniers and those who accept the evidence, is a reasonable level of knowledge of science and a lack of ideological blindness amongst those who accept the evidence for AGW.
09:04 AM on 06/19/2011
Not gonna happen! Since when does Cuba have scientists?
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
11:19 AM on 06/19/2011
Put a little effort into it.
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lbsaltzman
Permaculture and Sustainability
12:20 PM on 06/19/2011
Cuba has a highly educated intelligent citizenry. I think your bigotry is showing.
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Alwayspissedoffatsomeone
Fighting for Common Sense
01:53 PM on 06/19/2011
Yes they do. That's why you see them trying to escape their homeland by floating a refrigertor with 6 people in it. These are geniuses at work.
04:41 PM on 06/19/2011
I am not a bigot but I do have a very accurate and reliable BS detector. It went off loud and clear when I read this nonsense.