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Kucinich Will Force Vote To Cut Off Libya Funding

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First Posted: 06/17/11 07:47 PM ET Updated: 08/17/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) announced Friday that he plans to offer an amendment to the upcoming Defense spending bill to cut off funding for military operations in Libya—a move that could create political headaches for the White House as well as Republicans.

Kucinich, who earlier this week filed a lawsuit that charges President Barack Obama with illegally initiating military action in Libya without congressional consent, said his amendment will challenge the White House’s argument that bombing operations and support of other countries’ military operations do not constitute war.

“My amendment will provide the first test whether this Congress will defend its own authority under Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution,” Kucinich said in a statement. “Congress must use its constitutional authority of the power of the purse to end this war.”

The defense spending bill is expected to hit the House floor in the next few weeks. Current protocol allows lawmakers to offer any amendments to an appropriations bill, so Kucinich's amendment appears poised to sail through to the floor.

"Members can introduce and ask for votes on whatever they want,” said a GOP leadership aide.

Many liberals would have no problem voting for Kucinich's amendment, but it could create a dilemma for Republicans: vote for it and be criticized for bucking the president on a tedious foreign policy matter, or vote against it and be seen as hypocritical for slamming the president but not being willing to change course.

Of course, GOP leaders could try to counter Kucinich's amendment with a watered-down amendment of their own--which is exactly what happened two weeks ago when Kucinich introduced a resolution to force withdrawal from Libya. In that case, when it appeared Kucinich's proposal might actually pass, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) scrambled to put forward a less-extreme alternative that called on Obama to send Congress a report answering questions about the Libya mission. The move succeeded in siphoning enough disgruntled Republicans away from Kucinch's proposal and bringing it down, while Boehner's measure passed.

Lawmakers may not be so inclined to go easy on Obama this time around, however. The White House fueled bipartisan anger this week by submitting its report to Congress, per Boehner's resolution, and then promptly shutting down further questions on the matter. Many on Capitol Hill still take issue with the White House's reasoning that, because U.S. forces are not engaged in the kind of "hostilities" described in the War Powers resolution, Obama doesn't need congressional authorization.

"We’ve made our legal reasoning clear," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said during a Thursday briefing. "We can restate it, but I don’t anticipate further legal analysis on this issue from us."

And Carney repeatedly warned Congress against sending conflicting messages to the international community by holding votes to cut off Libya funding.

“We don’t think it’s helpful for Congress to send mixed messages,” he said. “I think we all agree, the vast majority of the members of Congress, as well as this administration, this president, that the mission undertaken by this broad coalition by NATO and other allies … has protected Libyan civilians, it has saved thousands of lives, and it has helped create space for the Libyan opposition to organize itself.”

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) suggested Boehner's tough talk on potentially blocking funds for Libya is purely political.

"I don’t think John really believes that we should stop our actions in Libya," Reid said in a Friday interview on PBS Newshour with Jim Lehrer. "I don’t think people should play around with this. We do not want Gadhafi running Libya, and so I think the Speaker should be very careful about these threats."

But some Democrats maintain that the only real way to ensure the U.S. pulls out of the Libya conflict—and to reassert the power of the legislative branch of government—is to block funding.

It would take “an amendment that says … we cannot spend any of the money we already have,” said Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who said Obama “made a mistake” by not asking for congressional authority to use military force in Libya.

“I voted to withdraw from Libya,” Frank said, referring to Kucinich's failed resolution earlier this month. “I think this thug [Muammar Gaddafi] should be removed, but not by Americans. I think we should hold out for Europeans to do it.”

Frank also dismissed Kucinich's lawsuit as having no teeth and said it is up to the legislative branch to change course. “The courts have said they will not intervene," he said. "It has to be coming from Congress."

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WASHINGTON -- Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) announced Friday that he plans to offer an amendment to the upcoming Defense spending bill to cut off funding for military operations in Libya—a move that...
WASHINGTON -- Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) announced Friday that he plans to offer an amendment to the upcoming Defense spending bill to cut off funding for military operations in Libya—a move that...
 
 
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Michaela19762
Don't believe everything you think
03:21 PM on 06/20/2011
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Can you spell disaster for your kids (you must not care about them)
Its spelled OBAMA
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LEAVE MY KIDS OUT OF YOUR POSTS

And MAWDS .. YOU ELIMINATE SO MANY POSTS BUT YOU LET POST GO THROUGH LIKE HIS ????????????? REALLY ?
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
11:48 PM on 06/19/2011
The US is not at war with Libya or Yemen, so I want to thank the citizens of those countries for participating in joint Homeland Security Exercises in various undisclosed states.
proudtobrepub
anyone in 2012 but obama
02:26 PM on 06/20/2011
Yous post scares me and on the other hand encourages me that you lefties will keep saying things that push more to the right (happening every single day). It is a not war that is costing 9.1 million per day (more than you will ever see).
11:47 AM on 06/19/2011
You go Dennis! You have a hot wife and now a hot idea. Rebels are out of money which means they want ours. We didn't sign up for their armed rebellion and now they are complaining the air support isn't doing enough. Let them pay for their own revolution and leave us out of it. The air cover was only to prevent their massacre and give time for them to regroup. That's all. Now the complaints? Bunch of ingrates.
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10:53 AM on 06/19/2011
I think Kucinich is savvy to press for this now. It's really about ending this "Presidential" perogative that GW Bush shoved down our throats. America was so PTSD no one responded, too spooked. Now is the time, to define the limits of Presidental war mongering or foreign intervention with the military, rather than the legitimate call of Congress. This kind of authentic legislating is how the government works, when we're lucky. Yay.
proudtobrepub
anyone in 2012 but obama
02:27 PM on 06/20/2011
Bush bush bush.
Thanks for such a wonderful contribution.
ITS ODUMAS war
And by the way, he has killed more than Bush now in Afganistan.
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Gitta
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03:34 PM on 06/20/2011
War is like that. There's better ways to solve these issues. Why was Osama Bin Laden taken out by a special ops in one night when the US has been trying to run him down militarily for what, 10 years. My comment has more to do with the "Presidental Perogative" than which President, anyway. Being commander in chief doesn't mean you get to start a war or invade with military might without the consent of Congress. Unless you want to get into trouble.
10:01 AM on 06/19/2011
Kucinich and Ron Paul are the only two men of principle in Washington.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
08:47 AM on 06/19/2011
CUT FUNDING??? What funding? there NEVER was any request for funding and there is none planned,,, so just what does he plan on cutting off,,,,,,,???? total nonsensical brought to you by the Republican Party
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
11:43 PM on 06/19/2011
And you wonder why Dems are so dense when it comes to budgets.
proudtobrepub
anyone in 2012 but obama
02:28 PM on 06/20/2011
You are a nut. Obama took us into this war without approval and then scoffed at the Congress vis his violation of the War poowers act that you guys brought up Bush violated. Your hypocrisy is ungalled and unmitigated. Carry on. HELP US WIN IN 2012 Keep talking. PLEASE KEEP POSTING THIS NONSENSE
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USAisAwesome
Where has our common sense gone?
02:39 AM on 06/19/2011
This relates to most of you here.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.
John Stuart Mill
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USAisAwesome
Where has our common sense gone?
02:37 AM on 06/19/2011
JUST READ THE QUOTES AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND
I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.
John Adams
It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.
Robert E. Lee
One of the greatest casualties of the war in Vietnam is the Great Society... shot down on the battlefield of Vietnam.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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10:45 PM on 06/18/2011
O-Bush-ma. Empire America humming along at warp speed.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
11:32 PM on 06/19/2011
The Obama doctrine: If you can not create revolutionary change at home, start a revolution somewhere else.
09:26 PM on 06/18/2011
as a liberal ..have no clue what the democrates and this president is doing .. wars .bailouts to corps and rich wtf
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
10:32 PM on 06/18/2011
and billionaires wives
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
08:49 AM on 06/19/2011
you are clueless........THEM FAIL

On December 19, 2008, President Bush used his executive authority to
declare that TARP funds may be spent on any program he personally deems necessary to avert the financial crisis. This has allowed President Bush to extend the use of TARP funds to support the auto industry, a move supported by the United Auto Workers
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
11:36 PM on 06/19/2011
Stupidest president we ever had, which means the Democrat controlled Congress was even dumber.
TARP was passed after the November elections with Obama voting in favor,
Bush was never a lame duck.

Obama, just lame.
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Michaela19762
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08:38 PM on 06/18/2011
Now we'll see if ANYONE in Congress is serious about budget cutting. Congress should cut off Afghanistans and Iraq too cause that is the ONLY way those "engagements" end. The generals will never end it, no President will end it R OR D .. just defunding it is the only way.
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Michaela19762
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08:35 PM on 06/18/2011
4000 people employed at the embassy in Iraq ? Well now you know where the jobs went.
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10:57 AM on 06/19/2011
Good point, and I bet most of those employed are not Iraqi's.
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anyone in 2012 but obama
02:31 PM on 06/20/2011
Can you spell disaster for your kids (you must not care about them)
Its spelled OBAMA
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Michaela19762
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08:34 PM on 06/18/2011
I want ALL of the wars to stop right now. This is ridiculous. Whatever cuts they make will be offset by 120 billion a year in Afghanistan, plus Iraq.

Sell the U.S. embassy in Iraq while they're at it.

Construction of the U.S. embassy in Iraq, set to open in September, is projected to cost $592 million, with a staff of 1,000 people and operating costs totaling $1.2 billion a year. It will be a 104-acre complex, which is the size of approximately 80 football fields. On May 10, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) criticized the ballooning size and cost of the embassy in a hearing with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice:

Now, having said over and over again that we don’t want to be seen as an occupying force in Iraq, we’re building the largest embassy that we have — probably the largest in the world — in Baghdad. And it just seems to grow and grow and grow. … We agree that we should focus our aid locally not in Baghdad, but we have 1,000 Americans at the embassy in Baghdad. You add the contractors and the local staff it comes to 4,000.

The architectural firm designing the embassy, Berger Define Yaeger, has posted the designs for the colossus on its website. Some previews of the compound’s planned swimming pool and tennis courts:
proudtobrepub
anyone in 2012 but obama
02:36 PM on 06/20/2011
All of your post is fabricated and you know it. We are building an embassy (my firm is involved) but it was at the bequest of the democrats in Congress
08:01 PM on 06/18/2011
Barry Sotero is acting just like Bush with his coalition of the willing, this time liberals supported Barry in a Bush-like war now both sides hands are drenched in blood. Go to youtube and look for Cynthia Mckinney's findings on what is going on there, she has a good interview on RT. "Coalition forces" are bombing civilian targets, innocents are being killed.

Yep, BOTH left and right are responsible this time and you will reaffirm your support of the war if anyone but Ron Paul wins. *QUE THE BS* But you know it, he is the only candidate who is not fooling around when it comes to the wars. So make all the excuses you want not to vote for him because if you don't then don't be surprised when you end up in a hyper-inflationary depression and a massive war. You will have nobody to blame but yourselves.
09:24 PM on 06/18/2011
Bush had congressional authority to wage war in Iraq and Afgan. oduma has no excuse, except that he is violating the Constitution, which is nothing new for him.
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Enroh Mot
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10:28 PM on 06/18/2011
Congressional authority based on manufactured lies, more Americans died invading Iraq than died on 9/11.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
08:52 AM on 06/19/2011
NO bush got permission to search for wmd in iraq and TURNED that permision into a was for eight years the U S was DEFENDING itself while searching for non existing wmd
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Yellowhammer
06:49 PM on 06/18/2011
It sure seems that those whose blood is being spilled and those whose treasure is being frittered away should be given some explanation of why we are in Libya and what we are doing.
proudtobrepub
anyone in 2012 but obama
02:33 PM on 06/20/2011
Wait, its not a war Oduma has said.