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It's Grover Time: Huntsman Rejects No-Tax Pledge, Pawlenty Waivers

Grover Norquist

First Posted: 06/21/11 09:10 PM ET Updated: 08/21/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- It's Grover time in the GOP, which has nothing to do with "Sesame Street" and everything to do with Jon Huntsman's effort to distinguish himself from the other two BWFGs (bland, white former governors) in the Republican presidential race.

This is the season in which the bearded, Harvard-trained ayatollah of the anti-tax movement, Grover Norquist, demands (almost always successfully) that candidates sign a document pledging to oppose any tax increase of any kind. The founder and leader of the Washington-based Americans for Tax Reform, Norquist is clever, meticulous and persistent -- and the leading enforcer and symbol of Republican tax-cutting orthodoxy.

Most Republican presidential contenders have signed since Norquist started demanding that they do so back in 1988. But there are signs that his grip on the Party may be weakening a bit, which presents an opening for Huntsman and a dilemma for Tim Pawlenty.

According to Norquist, five GOP presidential contenders for the 2012 nomination have signed a pledge that, if elected president, they will "oppose and veto" any "net" federal tax increase. The signees so far are not exactly a roster of front-row names: Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. Michele Bachmann hasn't signed, but is expected to do so.

"It's still early in the season," Norquist told The Huffington Post.

Mitt Romney signed the pledge when he ran and lost in 2008. He has yet to sign again, and on Tuesday his campaign announced that he would skip a debate Norquist's group was co-sponsoring in July with conservative news organization the Daily Caller.

Still, Norquist told HuffPost that Romney promised him the same day that he would take the pledge again despite kissing off the debate. "Romney told me personally that he would sign," Norquist said.

The Romney campaign confirmed that the former Massachusetts governor would indeed sign, "just like he did in 2008," spokesperson Andrea Saul said.

Tim Pawlenty signed a Norquist-style pledge when he was governor of Minnesota, but has not signed the official one yet this year. "I expect that he will," Norquist said, adding "I expect that they ALL will."

Maybe not. "We haven't said either way," said Pawlenty spokesman Alex Conant.

And Huntsman told reporters Tuesday that he would not sign Norquist's or any other pledge this year -- on abortion, gay rights or any other topic.

"First of all, I don't sign pledges," he told reporters after announcing his candidacy near the Statue of Liberty. "I was asked to sign a pledge when I ran for governor in 2004, and I didn't. And I got attacked because I didn't. And then we went around and ended up cutting and reforming taxes at record levels [and] I never heard anything in the aftermath of our work. My take on all of this is, your record should say everything about where you are and where you're going. I don't need to sign a pledge."

Norquist, a quiet but effective enforcer, said that that was not the last word. He praised Huntsman for his tax-cutting record as second to none among governors in the race. "Governor Huntsman hasn't seen the wording of the pledge yet. It is very simple and straightforward. Once he sees that there aren't complications and traps in it, I have every confidence that he will sign it."

Spoken like a enforcer with a long track record.

But Huntsman's top adviser, John Weaver, begged to differ. "Not gonna happen," he told HuffPost. "We're not signing anything."

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WASHINGTON -- It's Grover time in the GOP, which has nothing to do with "Sesame Street" and everything to do with Jon Huntsman's effort to distinguish himself from the other two BWFGs (bland, white fo...
WASHINGTON -- It's Grover time in the GOP, which has nothing to do with "Sesame Street" and everything to do with Jon Huntsman's effort to distinguish himself from the other two BWFGs (bland, white fo...
 
 
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carolo
retired Democrat
07:36 PM on 07/18/2011
People who sign this pledge are allowing this dictator to tell them how to do their jobs and how they are to vote. Norquist is not an elector Congressman nor Senator but yet these elected people allow him to tell them what they can and can not do. Sound to me as they all need to grow some and crawl out of Grovers back pocket.
mm3264
Volunteer Of America, Occupy Wall St
02:10 PM on 07/01/2011
Grover Norquist is believed to be a muslim terrorist by many.

Norquist is the co-founder of the Islamic Free Market Institute.[26]

A noted issue about the IFMI (now Islamic Institute) is that it was founded with funding from Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi and Dr. Sami Amin Al-Arian. These two later became convicted on terrorism charges.
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NHGranite
Killer Koala escapes diner, eats shoots & leaves
12:50 PM on 06/28/2011
If you pledged to the Constitution to protect the US, but over that you pledged to not do your job, but to promise to do what Grover Norquist wants, why isn't that treason?
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kasv
Think... Republicans haven't outlawed it yet.
01:43 PM on 06/28/2011
To me it is. Any candidate who signed that pledge, or any other pledge whether it be left or right, does not, IMHO, qualify to take the oath of office for the presidency of the United States.
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06:15 PM on 06/22/2011
Maybe they know that taxes will have to be raised. Reagan knew it, GHWB knew it. The only one who didn't was GW, and look at how that turned out. Obama caved to the GOP, hasn't helped us 1 bit. Lowest taxes in decades. The rates look high, but the actual rates are some of the lowest, and currently among the lowest as a percentage of GDP. The Laffer Curve only goes so far, and we passed that long ago.

All this talk of cutting spending, anyone who honestly looks at things, especially since so much is off the table, there just isn't enough to cut. We need more revenue. The minute any of them walk into office, they'll have to either raise revenue or raise the debt ceiling just like Obama has. Just like most of his recent predecessors did.
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wsmith9686
05:18 PM on 06/22/2011
in addiion to making some accross the board spending cuts, the nation also needs to raise its income. that means raising tax and or elimanating a lot of tax loop holes. this should especially include those who have benefited for so many years from the existing tax dodges.
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Jambala99
A GOP vote is a character flaw at this point.....
04:59 PM on 06/22/2011
Grover is an idiot. Anyone who listens to this fool deserves to be misinformed....
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kasv
Think... Republicans haven't outlawed it yet.
01:44 PM on 06/28/2011
They do more than listen, they pledge allegiance to him.
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mmsuki
Fine; I evolved, you didn't.
04:31 PM on 06/22/2011
It is sheer idiocy to sign such a statement, leaving a candidate in a straight jacket, not knowing what the economy will be like in a few years.

What's that old saying---"never say never"?
IWantTofu
Evolution. Now a political position.
03:54 PM on 06/22/2011
Huntsman is right. The oath he should take should be to uphold the constitution of the United States, not to make promises to grover norquist. While he has a good record as a tax cutter, if it ever becomes neccessary to raise taxes for the benefit of the country, he should be able to do so.
03:27 PM on 06/22/2011
You may not think is important, but I think it goes to his credibility. Norquist pays himself more than $220,000 per year plus benefits for what he reports as 20hrs/week of work. He describes his pledge as "simple", simplistic is more like it. He hates all forms of government spending but is a big fan of most corporate welfare. He even opposes repeal of programs he dislikes if they tend to raise raise revenue. It's like a person who's having a hard time paying their bills. After cutting everything but housing and food, they refuse to get a second job, or consult from home or anything else to increase their income. No delineation of priorities other than cut cut cut. He actually believes that there are no public purposes other than to transfer as much wealth as possible to the wealthiest among us

The real question is who funds his extravagant salary and benefits? And why does anyone listen to him, put him on TV, even the liberal press like "Hardball" constantly give him a platform.
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Judy Rauch
02:14 PM on 06/22/2011
I think is very simple if Norquist is a lobbyist and the GOP are signing pledges to him not to raise taxes then they are been bought by a lobbyist and thats way wrong and to not even be ashamed of it is striking. In otherwords he is telling them sign this or no money and like little cowards they sign it even tho I can not believe that even the GOP believes this fairy tale on trickle down economy which has never worked and is not going to start now. Any one thinks government does not need taxes then they live in la la land. If Republicans ever ever want to win again they would tell Nordquist the Koch Brothers etc to stay out of elections otherwise with this internet and etc they can no longer hide from people who they are taking money from.Whats the next step to tell us only rich people can vote???
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Boomer946
Time to expose the man behind the curtain
07:58 PM on 06/22/2011
Voting restricted to the rich almost happened when the Constitution was first written. So, don't count it out for the future. The rich historically have maintained a militant stance when it comes to subverting the will of the common folk for their own advantage. The rich are always at work using their money to curry favor and get laws passed that give them the advantage whenever they feel a need.
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CA93010
Pest Controller
02:04 PM on 06/22/2011
I simply don't understand how someone who wants to be President of the United States needs to kowtow to a bully and sign a pledge not to do something. Not a good example of Leadership skills.
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JessWonderin
01:30 PM on 06/22/2011
When we ELECT Gover to an office that has the power to "demand" compliance to any policy... THEN maybe a candidate should consider his "advice".... Until THEN ... Grover is a PAID lobbyist and no more.......
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justoverit333
make art not war
01:14 PM on 06/22/2011
There's just so many people the GOP have to please. Norquist, Boehner, Mitch, Koch Brothers, Big Oil, Big Banks, Big Corps in general, the tea partiers, independents, God, Sister Sarah, extremists, closed-minded people, land developers, Faux News, Beck, Limbaugh, who am I forgetting?
01:22 PM on 06/22/2011
Milton Friedman, Reagan
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06:10 PM on 06/22/2011
Are you kidding, Reagan would be considered a far left socialist Democrat to these people nowadays.
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JessWonderin
01:33 PM on 06/22/2011
Da people??? ... Oh .. They never really worked for them anyway.....
wiseapple
. just can not fail, if we never, ever stop
01:10 PM on 06/22/2011
Huntsman better be careful. He won't be getting his pledge pin and won't be invited to be a member of the treehouse club either!
proudcalib
I never said it was going to be easy
12:45 PM on 06/22/2011
Elected officials are required to uphold the Constitution, not some ideological screed.