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Debt Ceiling Negotiations Risk Falling Victim To Budget Gimmicks

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ANDREW TAYLOR   06/22/11 12:14 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Negotiators seeking to carve trillions of dollars from the deficit are facing temptation to use iffy assumptions and outright gimmickry to exaggerate the size of spending cuts to accompany any increase in the government's ability to borrow to stay afloat.

With both sides reluctant to abandon long-held positions – Republicans are against tax increases, Democrats oppose cutting benefit programs like Medicare – those watching the talks being led by Vice President Joe Biden are on the lookout for a familiar set of accounting tricks.

Little wonder. Both already have employed such tricks earlier this year in making their budgets appear leaner than they really are.

The most obvious options available to negotiators are to claim inflated savings from troop drawdowns in Iraq and Afghanistan and to have budget savings pile up over 12 years or so rather than the 10 years that is typical when drafting budgets.

And there's every possibility that the negotiations will generate unrealistic assumptions about cuts to domestic agencies and the Pentagon over the coming decade – and the real possibility of a deal that would lack enforcement teeth.

Perhaps the most obvious gimmick would be to claim the ongoing drawdown from the troop surges in Iraq and Afghanistan as budget savings.

Already this year, both President Barack Obama and House Republicans have claimed in their budgets more than $1 trillion in savings by taking advantage of the peculiar way government scorekeepers project war costs and by lowballing projected costs in future years.

Under the rules followed by the Congressional Budget Office, the agency currently projects war spending to grow with inflation even as troop drawdowns are ongoing. That means House Republicans could claim more than $1 trillion in savings by cutting the budget for war costs to $65 billion for 2014 and $50 billion a year shortly thereafter.

In the Republicans' defense, they were simply mimicking Obama's budgeting for the war, which claimed nearly identical – but equally iffy – savings.

Democrats are pushing to employ the gimmick in the Biden-led talks. When asked about the idea Tuesday, a GOP participant in the talks said it would be wrong to claim the savings.

"It's not something that I think you can legitimately claim out of these talks," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said. "Certainly the savings may be there, but they're not a product of these talks."

Another option is to lengthen the time frame over which any deficit savings accumulate from 10 years to perhaps 12 years. That's the method used when Obama claimed $4 trillion in deficit savings when offering a revised budget plan in April. An additional two years of spending cuts adds a disproportionate amount of savings since the cuts at the tail end of a budget window are invariably far larger than those produced in the early years.

So Obama's $4 trillion in savings over 12 years computes to more like $2.9 trillion over a decade – and it's $2.5 trillion using more conservative CBO estimates.

The $4 trillion figure is noteworthy because it's the amount claimed by Obama's deficit commission – except the savings recommended by the deficit panel accumulated over nine years.

Biden recently said the negotiators were working toward a "real serious down payment on the commitment to four trillion bucks (of deficit cuts) over the next 10 to 12 years." And Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., also suggested recently that the savings could accrue over a time period of longer than a decade.

Not every budget maneuver is a gimmick that avoids difficult decisions. For instance, a proposal to lower the inflation adjustment for federal benefit programs and income tax brackets to the so-called chained Consumer Price Index is a way to generate up to $300 billion in deficit savings. The chained CPI, economists say, would more accurately reflect consumer behavior when prices rise instead of assuming they buy the same "market basket" of goods and services.

It would raise revenues because it would push more workers into higher tax brackets and it would generate savings from Social Security, federal civilian and military pensions and other benefit programs. Democrats are unlikely to permit the chained CPI to apply to Social Security within the confines of the Biden talks, however.

Another area for potentially inflated claims of cuts involves the Cabinet agency budgets passed by Congress each year. This so-called discretionary spending runs the gamut from education to defense to homeland security programs. The overall cap on such programs is usually set each year by the annual budget passed by Congress.

Even though the budget sets a one-year cap, policymakers invariably make inflated estimates of how much can be saved over five or 10 years, even though they're impossible to enforce and are often simply based on wishful thinking.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., an enormously influential figure, is pressing for a two-year cap set in law. But negotiators may forecast future savings based on that cap, even though prior estimates of multiyear caps have invariably proven bullish.

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WASHINGTON — Negotiators seeking to carve trillions of dollars from the deficit are facing temptation to use iffy assumptions and outright gimmickry to exaggerate the size of spending cuts to ac...
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06:24 PM on 06/24/2011
Who wrote the silly piece of poop? Anonymous reporting is suspect. Look for its point of view; here it's cut middle class benefits and raise their taxes.

And he's wrong — whether from ignorance or deception. He says: "For instance, a proposal to lower the inflation adjustment for federal benefit programs and income tax brackets ...." Tax brackets aren't indexed; there is no "inflation adjustment." Even if there were, it would only affect people whose incomes were the bottom 2%, millionaires unaffected.

The only thing he mentions that "lowering the inflation adjustment" would affect is Social Security but that doesn’t reduce the deficit any. SS payments come from separate funds, paid by the people & to people who would spend it immediately. Even Paul Ryan said that cutting SS wouldn't affect the budget deficit.

He criticizes cuts as back-loaded but with the struggling economy that would be good! There's no magic to 10 or 12 years; neither will be right because of unforeseen circumstances. In 2000 CBO predicted "surpluses as far as the eye could see!" Bush’s tax cuts, drug plan and optional Iraq war killed that.

Senator Mitch McConnell, "an enormously influential figure," has one stated goal; making Obama a one term President. His influence was so aimed at getting the top 3% tax breaks that he allowed Obama to pass a dozen beneficial bills.

Funny, what the author doesn't like he calls gimmickry but all he pushes are gimmicks.
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angelavictoria5
Life is short. Do all the good you can!
11:26 PM on 06/22/2011
Could we hurry and get some manufacturing plants in place to provide jobs for the jobless and soldiers coming home? Could we manufacture what we would buy from China? If we could get some water in this thing, the ark just might float.
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idisVA
01:30 PM on 06/22/2011
No Tax Increases is a REPUBLICAN GIMMICK.
01:08 PM on 06/22/2011
JokeBiden is a GIMMICK...
WWYTA
We disagree, it does not mean you are correct
12:43 PM on 06/22/2011
Keep trifling with this issue. The world will soon hold a vote of confidence, and I fear we will not win the vote.
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dmsdzinr
Progression wit a twist of sarcasm.
11:51 AM on 06/22/2011
WHY can we not have a law in COngress (House & Senate) called a SINGLE ISSUE BILL law? One of the MAIN REASONS THAT NOTHING GETS PASSED IN WASHINGTON IS THAT ALL BILLS ARE LOADED WITH CR@P THAT HAS LITTLE TO NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MAIN ISSUE OF THE LEGISLATION.
KIampfbeobachter
Misanthropic economic and political shaman
12:12 PM on 06/22/2011
Learn from Europe!
WWYTA
We disagree, it does not mean you are correct
12:43 PM on 06/22/2011
Like Greece, Spain, Ireland?
11:49 AM on 06/22/2011
There is no question that the deal that comes from these secret meetings will benefit the corporate sponsors of the two parties above everything else and anything positive for the public will be an accident.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
11:12 AM on 06/22/2011
Amazing Corporate America will not let the politicians scrape anything off the top but for the middle class and poor strip them down!
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Barnicle23
Merry Meet, Merry Part
11:10 AM on 06/22/2011
And yet, the Pentagon once again got a bigger budget this year. Depressing
11:07 AM on 06/22/2011
Stop the discussion.
Make an up or down decision.
Yes, raise the ceiling or No, don't.
Let the GOP explain to Wall St and the voters why they think it's a great idea to increase or debt payments due to increased interest rates.
Call their bluff for once.
This is not the time for budget talks.
11:24 AM on 06/22/2011
They had a clean vote on raising the debt limit the end of May, it was defeated 318 to 97. Many Democrats joined with Republicans to vote against it.
satyrday
If my micro-bio is way too long, will it be trunca
12:16 PM on 06/22/2011
They weren't at the deadline back then.
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DustyMills
A liberal tree-hugging Oregonian...
11:06 AM on 06/22/2011
The US now has a government of political maneuver's & confidence tricks.........and it seems the only thing we're sure of is the people are getting taken for a ride.

This is the underbelly of politics.....the behind closed doors, secret agreements and plots to undermine what is truly best for our nation. The republicans are providing the smoke screen to keep our attention on their threat to default, while the "gang of 6" works to come up with a budget that will satisfy the people while giving them what they want.

In the end, Congressional members will hammer out something that appears to keep damage at a minimum, but in reality will begin to cut wide swaths through the programs meant to protect us from the very same people who write our legislation.
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11:05 AM on 06/22/2011
while these people sit around talking and getting nowhere , we are the ones footing the bill, cut politians pay they made the mess they can pay for it,, cut their benefits ,it begins to look like they are ripping off the people and increasing their wealth, , check out just how much money pelosi alone has made in the last two years,,
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waujvari1274
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12:17 PM on 06/22/2011
I have repeatedly said, put Washington's politicians on medicare and medicaid when they "retire" and watch how fast that program will be fixed!

I want to know why they can vote on their own benefits and salary and the rest of can not? They seem to make the law on how much we can make....why can't we do the same?
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10:58 AM on 06/22/2011
it is time elected officials take cuts, and every program be on the cutting table ,, honestly i do not get who in their right mind could even think of spending more,, even bringing the troops home will cause more financial stress, sorry but it is do or die on this ,,obama care also needs to go period ,we can not afford any more , as the people get poorer the politians seem to be getting richer, some one is cheating ,and lieing ,to the people,
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BBackSoon
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11:10 AM on 06/22/2011
People need jobs. And a whole bunch of starving, homeless people will be a problem without something to fall back on.

Not one word about bringing in more money.

You got it bad.
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09:55 AM on 06/23/2011
as i have said before, with libs its all about sticking to those with more, not one word about cutting , or politians taking cuts,,
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balthus
10:55 AM on 06/22/2011
In what sense do the negotiations "risk falling victim" to such shenanigans? This is the way our government works. If the parties couldn't fudge the numbers, philosophical differences (and their most important goal - reelection) would prevent a deal being made.

Too bad the Dems don't have guts enough to say there will be no deal without a relapse of the Bush tax cuts. Paris Hilton doesn't need another yacht more than average Americans need Social Security.
03:27 PM on 06/22/2011
Those taxes are done after this year anyway... dont have be left hung out before the election for something that will happen anyway (lesson the Repugs should have learned about voting to coupon-ize medicare - except they put it out there with it NEVER having a chance to happen.)
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10:54 AM on 06/22/2011
CBO director said Americas out look is dire,, we need the will to cut spending , instead of spending even more,
11:08 AM on 06/22/2011
You conveniently chose to ignore the need for increased revenue through tax reform.
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BBackSoon
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11:12 AM on 06/22/2011
Simplify the tax code and get the Rich and the Corporations to pay a fair share? You never seem to mention that do you.

It is cut spending, cut spending.

That really is all you got, isn't it?
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09:52 AM on 06/23/2011
tax the rich , tax the banks , tax the oil , tax tax tax ,,, never a word of cut cut from libs,,
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09:56 AM on 06/23/2011
actually i would like the fair tax,,, but still want the cuts ,