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Obama, At LGBT Fundraiser, Gets A Pass For Punting On Same-Sex Marriage

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First Posted: 06/23/11 10:04 PM ET Updated: 08/23/11 06:12 AM ET

NEW YORK CITY -- President Barack Obama did not reverse course and endorse the right of gay couples to marry during a high-profile LGBT fundraising event Thursday night.

He expressed support for the idea that the state of New York should have the power to codify marriage for same-sex couples. But he did not personally endorse the pending New York bill -- which is nearing passage in the statehouse -- or same-sex marriage itself.

The crowd of 600-plus attendees didn't jeer Obama's caution ... that much. Rather, cordial applause and a shared sense of accomplishment seemed to be the order of the night at the Sheraton Hotel in midtown Manhattan.

Obama is, objectively, the most influential president LGBT citizens have ever had. And while his administration has experienced no shortage of LGBT-related tensions -- whether in private meetings or from activists handcuffed to the White House gates -- Thursday night was spent discussing past accomplishments and hinting at future breakthroughs.

"Yes we have more work today. Yes we have more progress to make. Yes I expect continued impatience with me on occasion," said the president. "With your help, if you keep up the fight, if you will devote your time and your energies to this campaign one more time, I promise you we will write another chapter in that story."

"We are going to lead a new generation to a brighter future," he concluded. "And I will be standing there right there with you."

In a 25-minute address before both grey-bearded and baby-faced donors and activists, Obama praised vocal LGBT activism and offered his ear in return. He ran through his list of achievements -- extending hospital visitation rights to gay couples, a comprehensive national AIDS strategy, the ending of Don't Ask Don't Tell, to name a few -- and pledged a commitment to a " simple American value, the notion that "we are all created equal."

But when it came to the pressing substantive matter of the day -- marriage equality -- Obama's speech wasn't simple at all. Instead, it veered into the vagaries of federalism, the frustrations of democracies and the pulls and pushes of the public debate.

"Right now, I understand, there is a little debate going on here in New York," he said, as the crowd muted their cheers and chatter in anticipation. "Under the leadership of Governor [Andrew] Cuomo, with the support of Democrats and Republicans, New York is doing exactly what democracies are supposed to do. There is debate and deliberation about what it means here in New York to treat people fairly in the eyes of the law. That is the power of our democratic system. It is not always pretty there are setbacks there are frustrations. But in grappling with tough and at time emotional issues in the legislatures and the courts and the ballot box and, yes, around the dinner table and the office hallways -- sometimes even in the Oval Office -- slowly but surely we find a way forward. That is how we will achieve change that is lasting. Change that just a few years ago would have seemed impossible."

It was not a deviation from the usual script. Nor was it the "fierce urgency of now" that Obama had often blared on the 2008 campaign trail. But, save a few hecklers, it would suffice for the night.

"Everyone in the room would have been thrilled if he had come out for marriage equality," said Sarah Holland, an attendee. "I think for some people it rang hollow for him to be talking about equality and not going the full distance.

"At the same time," she added, "people in that room are politically astute."

Holland said Obama was the president who had made the most impact in her lifetime. "I think he really believes in equality," she said.

That the president could earn plaudits even while falling short on the issue was not a surprise. The crowd at the Sheraton may have included a few vocal, disappointed activists, but the vast majority of attendees didn't pay top dollar (tickets started at $1,250) to heckle.

"He has done a lot," said Andrew Rabenstein, another attendee. "A lot of it is a matter of illustrating what he has done in good messaging. ... As every constituent group, we want 100 percent of what we can get. But getting 70 to 80 percent is better than anyone else has gotten. Look at the Hispanic groups, which are still waiting for a breakthrough on immigration reform."

It is the notion that his foot-dragging on marriage is explained by political and not personal motivations that has allowed Obama to keep his relationship with the LGBT crowd from fraying. Virtually everyone in Thursday's crowd assumed the president privately embraces the notion that same-sex couples deserve federal benefits. The reoccurring prediction is that he will act on that supposition in his second term.

"I don't think he will stick his neck out this close to the election," said Lauree Feldman, another gala attendee. "Once he gets re-elected, he will drive that train as fast as he wants."

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NEW YORK CITY -- President Barack Obama did not reverse course and endorse the right of gay couples to marry during a high-profile LGBT fundraising event Thursday night. He expressed support for t...
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murphthesurf3 12:45 AM on 06/24/2011
IF ONLY OBAMA WERE AS OPEN ABOUT THIS AS PRES. CLINTON...
Oh wait! He is actually a lot more open than that most liberal of presidents


Saw an interview with Lt. Dan Choi earlier this evening. His vitriol toward President Obama is a wonder to behold. He holds him to an impossible standard on an impossible timeline.

Who was the last sitting president to attend a LGBT  Read More...
01:29 PM on 07/09/2011
Why don't you go to bed with yourself and candle light dinner you to and eat sheet at Joe's Bar and Grill with you know who and quit asking my Mom and Dad over to you know who, YOU AIN'T MARRIED HERE! and Joan the Vark you do YOU! Omni Directionall is not You To. OK... my Mom died of O Kanesir and that's You To. Tom out forever here and you should know it to.. I was here for all of you, but look at You To.. You Ain't! John Baptist Out for now..Lawyer on To. I Shon Lee to you. John
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KidShalleen
If I'm posted, a moderator is asleep.
08:44 PM on 06/27/2011
You can't make ballsy political decisions,
if you're a flat out political eunuch.

The truth hurts. If he doesn't wake up soon,
our country will be gone, along with his second term.
02:30 PM on 06/27/2011
One day the LGBT community is going to realize that Obama only cares about two things in regards to them: their money and their votes.
09:24 PM on 06/27/2011
And every other candidate cares about. . .what?

There is no true LGBT candidate -- but Obama is a lot closer than anyone else in the field. Do you see Bachmann helping out the cause much?
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CarlB6979
09:43 AM on 06/27/2011
I like that he is pro-States Rights. So I guess if in my state we don't vote for the right of gays to marry, it is okay with him. Also, the health care reform he is proposing.
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wayne the pain
07:08 PM on 06/26/2011
Blah, blah, blah, we all know the president talks a good liberal line when campaigning and raising money and then we found out he does nothing! Worse than nothing, he followed the Bush agenda about 90% of the time. Look at wars, tax cuts, education, Patriot Act, no public option health care, Wall St non reform, etc., etc. Now three years later he is trying to run the same old scam. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!
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libobstruction
Am I my brothers keeper...NO, I am not
05:25 PM on 06/26/2011
Left, right, it doesn't matter. This guy is a fraud and we ALL know it. Course I've personally known it since at least 07' but I'm glad more of us are starting to get the picture. But alas, that's what happens when you elect charm and wit over credentials and experience.
09:27 PM on 06/27/2011
There's someone in the Republican or Democratic party with "credentials and experience"? Are they running?

Half the country thought George Bush had "credentials and experience" -- or was that "charm and wit"?
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1johnf
What would Studs say?
11:10 AM on 06/26/2011
I'm afraid, Sam, that you don't get it. DADT was repealed. It just wasn't done by executive order. The President decided that, politically, there would be more cover, the risk would be spread more evenly, if were done differently. Instead of parading for the equality of marriage, the President chose to let states lead the way. this put the onus on people who were more directly resonsible and influenced by the majority of voters who support equality under the law. It put the preassure, responded to by those brave Republican legislators who voted their conscience rather than their party's prejudice, and now equal under the law is the law in New Your...not a result of an "activist" judge or proclamation.

I don't think you get it. In a little over two years, there s been a massive shift in protection and recognition of people who do not fit into the hetero column. It just doesn't seem to be done the way that you would prefer.
01:34 AM on 06/26/2011
Aw come on...Huffpo is so unfair. I watched that speech. Obama was fair and cordial and he explained to NYC GLBT advocates why he's not going to SAY he supported the gay marriage vote. The reason is
(1) he didn't NEED to (obviously, now that it's passed)
(2) he represents all of us as Americans, including the large number of people who still oppose gay marriage. He's not in the same situation as a politician from a blue state.
(3) he has a lot of battles to fight. He can't spend his political capital willy-nilly when there's global warming, budget, energy, abortion, foreign policy to deal with.

I for one am so tired of hearing progressives whine about Obama. He's a great leader for the Country, not just progressives but the United States. He's one of the best presidents we've ever had and an effing great guy on top of that. What more do you want, should he declare himself Hugo Chavez of the USA and legalize gay marriage in Aberdine Texas and everywhere else overnight? Come on libs, I know you have a conscience, I have one too, but have a little patience and support the prez.
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1johnf
What would Studs say?
11:11 AM on 06/26/2011
I wholeheartedly agree. Especially when you see the alternative (look what happened to us in Wisconsin!!!).
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paganmist
Girl gamer geek armchair activist
04:27 PM on 06/26/2011
Thank you! The left is devouring this guy whole, even though he's accomplished more in two years than most Presidents have in four or eight... and no President ever had this much obstruction in the history of the U.S.

Sheesh. Leftists who are ticked off that Obama isn't everything to everyone are fulfilling their own prophecies... the less support they give him, the less able he is to give them what they want. All of his power derives from what we give him. Too many on the left think that he should be able to work miracles while they sit out elections.
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1johnf
What would Studs say?
10:52 PM on 06/26/2011
Amen
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Royal Payne
01:04 AM on 06/26/2011
Not Ironic. Civil rights and gay rights should not be confused. Blacks are inherently conservative. Our nation is conservative and gays are conservative also. Which one of the rights, under the Constitution of the United States are they denied? - Those made up by George Soros
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paganmist
Girl gamer geek armchair activist
04:30 PM on 06/26/2011
Marriage is a federal law. Most people don't seem to realize this. It's a federal law over which the Supreme Court gave states the right to make reasonable restrictions and requirements. So marriage has NEVER been a "state's right" the way a lot of people seem to think. It's always been a federal contract with a specific state overlay.

Which means then that American citizens are being denied federal benefits that are available to every other citizen, by virtue of what? A religious restriction, in a country that was never designed to endorse religion. We do not allow discrimination on the basis of religion in this country, and yet that's what's happening.

This is why there was such a push to get the constitution amended; the common layman doesn't realize marriage is federal first and foremost, but people in congress know. They realize that unless they change the very amendment of the united states, they will not be able to prevent marriage for long.
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Royal Payne
08:44 PM on 06/26/2011
Obama also instructed Eric Holder and the Justice Department not to defend it in court. He has also done this with a number of other issues including environmental laws.
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Royal Payne
12:07 AM on 06/26/2011
Do you know how it feels to be ___k in the __s or the recipient of oral gratification?

The BBD is SH IT!
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Ipanemagirl
progressive
11:38 PM on 06/25/2011
well whatever Obama did or did not do , Marriage law won! so lets celebrate moving forward!
10:50 PM on 06/25/2011
He needs the black vote, therefore he can not outright support gay marriage. sound backwards? it is backwards, but that is just how it is. Somehow black people as a whole can complain about civil rights for every citizen, yet they can somehow overwhelmingly oppose gay citizen's rights...pretty ironic. Almost casts a permanent stain on their heroic civil rights movement if it can't be applied likewise outside their demographic.
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libobstruction
Am I my brothers keeper...NO, I am not
05:28 PM on 06/26/2011
I agree.
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Wesley Holbrook
Retired-Marine
09:18 PM on 06/25/2011
The GOP needs to take out that I-beam out of their own eyes before they cast stones. Just look how many have found to have had skeletons in their closets. And who cares how other people conduct their personal lives...they're most definitely a bunch of "peeping-Toms" and "peeping-Janes." What hypocrites who hide out in the closet!!! lol...
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USNDC
Smartest President ever ? ... not even close.
07:31 PM on 06/25/2011
LBGT ... isn't it time out BO ?

Down low is a term used by African American men that are embarrassed to be gay.

Donald Young ... Larry Bland ... Nate Spencer ... The DLC ... Man's Country

www.google­­.com

Isn't it time ?
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Born in Detroit-65
let me comment----please........
01:56 PM on 06/25/2011
Muslim or Christain lil barry,,,who ya playin this time ????