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Clock Problems Coming? Power Grid Change May Cause Disruptions

By SETH BORENSTEIN   06/24/11 09:18 PM ET   AP

Clock Problems Power Grid Clock Disruption

WASHINGTON -- A yearlong experiment with the nation's electric grid could mess up traffic lights, security systems and some computers – and make plug-in clocks and appliances like programmable coffeemakers run up to 20 minutes fast.

"A lot of people are going to have things break and they're not going to know why," said Demetrios Matsakis, head of the time service department at the U.S. Naval Observatory, one of two official timekeeping agencies in the federal government.

Since 1930, electric clocks have kept time based on the rate of the electrical current that powers them. If the current slips off its usual rate, clocks run a little fast or slow. Power companies now take steps to correct it and keep the frequency of the current – and the time – as precise as possible.

The group that oversees the U.S. power grid is proposing an experiment that would allow more frequency variation than it does now without corrections, according to a company presentation obtained by The Associated Press.

Officials say they want to try this to make the power supply more reliable, save money and reduce what may be needless efforts. The test is tentatively set to start in mid-July, but that could change.

Tweaking the power grid's frequency is expensive and takes a lot of effort, said Joe McClelland, head of electric reliability for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

"Is anyone using the grid to keep track of time?" McClelland said. "Let's see if anyone complains if we eliminate it."

No one is quite sure what will be affected. This won't change the clocks in cellphones, GPS or even on computers, and it won't have anything to do with official U.S. time or Internet time.

But wall clocks and those on ovens and coffeemakers – anything that flashes "12:00" when it loses power – may be just a bit off every second, and that error can grow with time.

It's not easy figuring what will run fast and what won't. For example, VCRs or DVRs that get their time from cable systems or the Internet probably won't be affected, but those with clocks tied to the electric current will be off a bit, Matsakis said.

This will be an interesting experiment to see how dependent our timekeeping is on the power grid, Matsakis said.

The North American Electric Reliability Corp. runs the nation's interlocking web of transmission lines and power plants. A June 14 company presentation spelled out the potential effects of the change: East Coast clocks may run as much as 20 minutes fast over a year, but West Coast clocks are only likely to be off by 8 minutes. In Texas, it's only an expected speedup of 2 minutes.

Some parts of the grid, like in the East, tend to run faster than others. Errors add up. If the grid averages just over 60 cycles a second, clocks that rely on the grid will gain 14 seconds per day, according to the company's presentation.

Spokeswoman Kimberly Mielcarek said the company is still discussing the test and gauging reactions to its proposal, and may delay the experiment a bit.

Mielcarek said in an email that the change is about making the grid more reliable and that correcting the frequency for time deviations can cause other unnecessary problems for the grid. She wrote that any problems from the test are only possibilities.

In the future, more use of renewable energy from the sun and wind will mean more variations in frequency on the grid, McClelland said. Solar and wind power can drop off the grid with momentary changes in weather. Correcting those deviations is expensive and requires instant backup power to be always at the ready, he said.

The test makes sense and should not cause too much of a hassle for people, said Jay Apt, a business professor and director of the Electricity Industry Center at Carnegie Mellon University.

But Tom O'Brian, who heads the time and frequency division at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, expects widespread effects.

He said there are alternatives if people have problems from the test: The federal government provides the official time by telephone and on the Internet.

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06:23 AM on 07/01/2011
I have an electrical engineering degree, and this changes involve LESS variance of the power frequency. Years ago, when one power plant supplied one town, and electric clocks had mechanical motors, it made sense to speed up the power grid frequency to make the clocks run fast for a day or two to catch up to the duration of the power outage. But even that caused problems -- if you just reset the clock when the power came back on, the power company's efforts made THOSE clocks wrong -- they would be FAST by the amount of the correction. These periods of non-standard power frequency make it extremely difficult to merge into a regional power grid operating at normal frequency.
And anyway, today's clocks with digital displays use quartz movments and most analog clocks use a battery movement - both unaffected by power grid frequency.
02:58 AM on 06/28/2011
I too have an issue with my Clock. it changes time every 10 minutes. I am surprised to see that it stops any time between 10 minutes and continues to move in that particular second only.Than it again start moving ahead. Isn't it weird?
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04:38 PM on 06/27/2011
Or is this "experiment" just a PR hedge against hacker attacks?
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04:37 PM on 06/27/2011
Did they "experiment" Sunday, June 27th? Our whole town had major flux problems.
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Oregonian76
Just a guy from the PacNW
01:40 PM on 06/27/2011
"But wall clocks and those on ovens and coffeemakers – anything that flashes "12:00" when it loses power – may be just a bit off every second, and that error can grow with time."

I find that my electric-driven clocks are rarely correct anyway... so I tend to not rely on them in the first place. Non-issue here.
01:05 PM on 06/27/2011
Well if this happens and the clocks get messed up, to get everything back into kilter they can get Superman to rapidly circle the globe a few times thereby re-adjusting the clocks.
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MrWampler
07:14 AM on 06/27/2011
Stupid Question:

Does altering the frequency alter consumption in anyway? (I'm thinking about lightbulbs in particular.)
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planetjeffy
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
05:30 AM on 06/27/2011
cool...another reason I can show up late to work
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Cleverboots
08:35 AM on 06/27/2011
Love it! LOL!
05:05 AM on 06/27/2011
It's not 'current', it's 'frequency'. And, the author of the story clearly knows beans about the subject matter. He should have been asking how they intend to control the negative issues that arise when frequency variations around the grid are not controlled. Oh well, even Pop Sci does a better job when it comes to science.
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pphhrogg
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07:38 PM on 06/26/2011
Slow news day?
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Ramon Moreno
Read below.
03:14 PM on 06/27/2011
blame it on the grid
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ForVivi
Another button, another buttonhole.
03:07 PM on 06/26/2011
Time seems so relative anyway...The days are perceived as short when we're busy or having fun; years seem to be flying by now that I'm older...
10:44 PM on 06/27/2011
Indeed it does. So there's an odd irony that, among all the various aspects of the physical world, time is by far the most accurately measurable -- time intervals can be measured to better than one part in a hundred trillion (1 in 10^14).
10:41 AM on 06/26/2011
Here's some common sense; if this is going to throw off clocks, timers, traffic lights and a variety of other devices that we depend upon don't do it.
12:29 PM on 06/26/2011
So true. But common sense never prevails.
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abuckley23
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02:26 AM on 06/26/2011
We should all tell time by the sun, it'd be easier. Until the sun explodes and then we just won't know what time it is.
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stape45
Spin this!
10:48 PM on 06/27/2011
Nor will we care.
aristippe
no more war for oil
11:09 PM on 06/25/2011
Who still owns a clock?
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arcanepsyche
12:57 AM on 06/26/2011
Me.
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D-V-H
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10:26 PM on 06/25/2011
I bought a clock once that changed minutes every 50 seconds. Must have been set for 50Hz not the 60 we use here in the US.

It was a complete bummer when the alarm went off hours early. Needless to say, it went back immediately.