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Men Don't Recognize 'Benevolent' Sexism: Study

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First Posted: 06/27/11 05:17 PM ET Updated: 08/27/11 06:12 AM ET

Do most people recognize sexism in their daily lives? And what does it take to get them to shake their sexist beliefs?

In a recent study titled "Seeing the Unseen" psychologists Janet Swim of Pennsylvania State University and Julia Becker of Philipps University Marburg, Germany, set out to answer these questions.

Over the course of three separate, seven-day-long trials, Swim and Becker asked 120 college undergraduates (82 women and 38 men, ranging from 18 to 26 years old, some from the U.S., some from Germany) to record in a journal sexist comments they encountered on a daily basis. According to Swim, she and Becker hoped to determine whether forcing people to pay attention to less obvious forms of sexism could decrease their endorsement of sexist beliefs.

During the trials, subjects were instructed to note instances of sexist behavior toward women, ranging from unwanted sexual attention to blatantly sexist jokes and derogatory comments.

They were also asked to record subtler actions that many would consider harmless: men calling women "girls, " complimenting them on stereotypically feminine behavior and sheltering them from more "masculine" tasks. Swim and Becker described this less obvious sexism to participants as “benevolent sexism,” a term coined by psychologists Peter Glick and Susan Fiske in a 1996 study to refer to "a paternalistic attitude towards women that idealizes them affectionately," Glick told The Huffington Post.

On average, subjects recorded two derogatory terms, two sexist comments, 1.5 expressions of negative beliefs about women and 1.5 expressions of seemingly positive but in fact sexist thoughts about women each week. Swim recalled that one female participant reported a complete stranger had walked up to her in a laundromat and asked if she would fold his laundry because she'd be better at it.

This kind of sexism is "ambiguous," Swim said, and "people don't know if they're kidding, so we discount them one after another."

"If you document it and are confronted by a group of instances of sexism, then people start to see the unseen," she added.

The prevalence of sexism -- benevolent or hostile -- was not the study's primary focus, nor its major reveal. The more significant finding had to do with how men and women's beliefs about sexism changed after they became aware of its prevalence. In addition to asking participants to record instances of sexism, researchers also evaluated the degree to which subjects tolerated sexist behavior.

Researchers found that after recording the sexist incidents they observed, women were more likely to deem the behavior less acceptable. Men, on the other hand, continued to endorse sexist behavior even after becoming more conscious of it.

But when asked to empathize with the female targets of specific sexist incidents, male participants were less likely to sanction blatant sexism.

In one example, men who were told to consider women's feelings were less likely to think women overreact when responding negatively to sexist behavior.

When it came to instances of benevolent sexism, though, men's attitudes did not change. According to Swim, men did not consider statements including "a good woman should be put on a pedestal" or "in a disaster, women should be saved before men" to be sexist.

Becker and Swim's research provoked outrage in some quarters, aided by loaded headlines like this one in the UK's Daily Mail: "Men who hold open doors for women are SEXIST not chivalrous, feminists claim." Criticism focused on the researchers asking participants to identify seemingly well-intended male behavior as discriminatory.

Anna Rittgers, a blogger for the conservative Independent Women's Forum, wrote that she first thought the study was a hoax and that she was "beginning to suspect that the modern feminist movement is actually comprised of a bunch of honest-to-goodness misogynists whose goal is to make women look ridiculous."

The Irish blog Joe.ie It's Man Stuff sardonically wrote, "Great work ladies, we'll be sure to get you both a beer in recognition of your service if you ever pop over to Dublin. You'll have to pay for it though, obviously."

And blogger Mockarena, co-founder of the Chicks on the Right blog, wrote, "I don't know about you all, but it is VERY HARMFUL TO ME when my husband insists on driving during long road trips. I am TOTALLY PSYCHOLOGICALLY DAMAGED when he tells me he can't live without me. And I feel deeply discriminated against when he has the AUDACITY to fix the brakes on my car."

Mockerena later told The Huffington Post that she was in "utter disbelief at the sheer absurdity” of the study.

"Of course there are men who can be total pigs, and who'll ogle inappropriately and without any regard for the boundaries that an individual woman might set," she said. "But I really believe that if women get as bent out of shape about pure acts of kindness, affection and helpfulness” -- such as a husband helping his wife carry groceries -- "as they do about, say, an unwelcome pinch on the backside, then frankly, they've got issues."

Glick, co-author of the original study on benevolent sexism, said he worries that benevolent sexism has become a caricature to the media and public.

"We don't think that men should no longer be polite," he said. "Often chivalrous behavior is appropriate. It is just important to know when you are crossing the line."

"Women themselves ignore [all types of] sexism, and part of it is a coping mechanism," Swim said. "You want to live your life."

But ignoring sexism has consequences, she said. Often the acceptance of subtler forms of sexism can lead to the acceptance of broader forms of gender discrimination.

According to Glick, benevolent sexism can often unintentionally become hostile sexism when a woman breaks out of her assumed role. He used the workplace as an example.

If a man offers to help a female coworker set up an office computer, Glick said, and she accepts, she is perceived as warm, but lacking a level of competence. If she politely refuses, however, she is often viewed as a "bitch." Men who accept help are also seen as vulnerable, Glick said, but they do not suffer the same repercussions for trying to do things on their own.

So where do we go from here?

“[Change] requires some conversations about when benevolent sexism does feel bad," Swim told The Huffington Post. "Not all women think that it's bad either, so it becomes about creating a cultural awareness of what happens when [women] maintain dependency and [men] do those things that are not necessarily obviously sexist."

In the meantime, Swim said she finds it "just as interesting" that people can discount the sexism they experience in their daily lives "when they think about whether sexism is a problem or not."

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11:05 AM on 08/22/2011
Wouldn't "benevolent sexism" work both ways? Like if a woman asks a man if he could lift something heavy for her, something she wouldn't ask of another woman? Or if a woman asks a man if he could fix her car, but wouldn't ask the same question of another woman? I mean those are exactly like a man asking a woman to fold his laundry or to cook him dinner. I am wondering if this study looked at things for both genders or if this study just treated "sexism" as something that only affects one gender and not the other, or is only perpetrated by members of one gender and not the other. You know, for gender stereotypes to succeed, BOTH genders have to be full of people who believe in them and who behave in a "sexist" fashion. I have a real-world example for everyone: my mom was an adjunct college teacher with a female boss, and my mom's female boss really was very sexist, favoring male employees over female employees, and my mom ended up losing her job. But for some reason, this form of sexism was allowed, because it was someone discriminating against their own gender, even though it harmed my mother and other female employees at the college who had the same female boss. Anyone can be a sexist against either gender... and plenty of people who are fine with both biological genders are sexist against transsexuals.
01:58 AM on 07/04/2011
I wonder is it sexist to call a news anchor hot? http://www.lynnaluvers.com/2010/08/beauty-advantage.html
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02:30 AM on 07/01/2011
sexism, per this article, is not holding doors open.
it is doing so with a belief of incapability.
the real point of this article, that I am in contention with, is the subtler points.
calling a woman girl. treating them like children.
or calling a woman a bitcchy.
the problem lies not just with men. women are taught to act like children, and those mannerisms persist past a point where we are capable of seeing it ourselves.
I don't support treating women like children, but it's hard to fault the confusion that childish mannerisms present.
just like men are taught to present themselves as strong, regardless of their inner being. I can't blame a women for seeing men as they do, because mannerisms are more prevalent than inner intentions.
it would be best if we could look instead into ways to teach people to confront others with the truth that the outside persona lies.
11:12 PM on 06/30/2011
Until we can read each others mind and come to a mental agreement, there will be plenty of meaningful, nice and harmless acts that will end up being sexist, racist and malevolent. Until then we should treat each other like crap, equally.
10:56 PM on 06/30/2011
To the author:
I'm sorry, but you and your buddies don't get to stretch the definition of "sexism" to your liking. Let's not fly off the handle, ladies.
06:41 PM on 07/01/2011
Do you know how this sort of research works? They operationally defined their construct-- you can go look at how they defined it if you'd like. They don't just throw the world around willie-nillie like some people might in a conversation. In order to do the research with any sort of reliability and validity they have to be very careful about what words mean so that raters can agree on what instances count as sexism and which don't.
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09:06 AM on 07/10/2011
So I see it like this....

holding doors = sexist ; not holding doors = jerk
insisting on driving = sexist ; not driving = jerk
pinch butt (of wife/gf) or other small act of affection = sexist ; not doing that = not affectionate

I think a larger problem with studies like these are the confusions they create in people. As a man, I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. Call a jerk a jerk, but learn to recognize kindness and thoughtfulness when presented. Perhaps a man will do something for a woman, not because he wants to discount her intellect or ability, but rather HE just WANTS to.

And the cited blogger who suffers when her man drives, or changes the brakes, or holds the door... I think that blogger is too emotionally immature to have a serious relationship.
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02:40 PM on 06/30/2011
wow, just because this is written by a "modern woman" this borders on 60's radical man-hating extreme militiant feminism. So complimenting a woman on anythign that is "stereotypically feminine" is sexist? Wow... just being a man, or treating a woman who acts like a woman like a woman (in other words, im not gonna talk to a masculine acting lesbian the way I talk to a girlie young lady in sexy heels the same way)...is sexism? Im a progressive man who believes in equality of opurtunity for all, but this is ridiculous....i'll make sure not to open a door for you laura.. cuz i dont want you to think that I think you cant handle it....
06:37 PM on 06/29/2011
Calling this kind of male behavior "benevolent sexism" is an Orwellian twisting of language, as the result and outcome of such behavior is often devastating and most unbenevolent. It is a corruption of language and thought to paint over behavior that has a harmful effect with some sweet moniker like "benevolent." One would never speak of the oppression of racism or slavery as being benevolent ("benevolent racism" is an obvious oxymoron), but women being considered subhuman, their oppression is spoken of as "benevolent."

An example. Two male ambulance attendants picked up a young woman from an automobile accident scene. Because she was attractive and pretty by their standards, instead of following protocol and keeping her immobilized on a backboard, the paramedics propped her up between them for conversation. As a result, irreversible neurological damage occurred, leaving the young woman paraplegic and with other neurological problems. Because the intent of the males was not malevolent, this would be labelled benevolent sexism. Yet the outsome to the woman is most unbenevolent.

Find better words instead of being part of some Orwellian newspeak.
06:54 PM on 07/01/2011
"Benevolent Sexist beliefs represent a particular type of sexism that might be disregarded because of its ostensibly positive qualities (Glick & Fiske, 1996). It portrays women as “pure,” the “better” sex, and as idealized caregivers. Moreover, it reinforces the idea that women should be protected and financially provided for by men. Although these beliefs can be perceived as being subjectively affectionate, they are condescending because women are perceived as weak and incompetent."

It's a specific construct and a subset of sexism. These researchers are not implying that it's helpful, it's called "benevolent" specifically to highlight the long-standing misconceptions about that sort of sexism. It seems like it frames women favorably-- and in a way it does-- but it says that "All women are like X if they aren't like X then tehy aren't really women and not worthy of respect or positive regard."
06:19 PM on 06/29/2011
Everywhere women are burdened by the global patriarchy and male supremacist ideology. Whether being called the b-word by entertainers and boys, whether being raped, beaten, prostituted, sold into sex slavery; whether being starved for being the wrong sex; or being forced to cover oneself head to toe with a burqa; or denied opportunity; whether being told women are too impure to be priests or popes; whether being treated as hormonal sex objects, women the world over suffer physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually from sexism, woman-hating bias and the patriarchy.

Men are never going to get it. Men do not care to hear about women's experience and have no interest in granting women justice or full human status. When women speak of their experience with sexism, men refuse to listen and instead pile on with criticism, harassment, putdowns and more sexism.

White folks benefit daily from white skin privilege and men benefit daily from male privilege. These privileges are so interwoven into the cultural norms as to seem normative, right and unquestionable. Men do not want to share their privileged status with women, who men view as inferior hormonal sex objects.

It appears a total waste of women's time and energy to attempt any dialogue with men. Men like the patriarchal world and male supremacy they created and perpetuate and do not want to change. Why bother trying to get men to see how women experience the world? Superiors are NEVER interested in the viewpoints of the inferior.
12:54 AM on 06/30/2011
Hear hear.

However, your last statement I'm not sure about. I wouldn't say that superiors are never interested in the viewpoints of the inferior, but I would say that even if interested, most would find it difficult to access an understanding of what it is like to be in that other person's position. It takes a lot of effort and usually time, and most prefer not to take this time.

In addition, as modern men have been born into this superior position, they've also been born into what a lot now see (the many posts here are evidence) as a post-feminist world of total equality. The reality is an inconvenient truth, and most men resent being told that by nature of their birth, raising and subsequent attitudes and practices, they are oppressors.
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01:36 AM on 07/01/2011
The use of inferior and superior is a bad choice. there is no inferior sex, nor inferior race, only inferior attitudes.
on that note, I consider sweeping generalizations an inferior attitude. everywhere these things happen you will find good men and women appalled, and other good men and woman couched in ignorance.
I feel I couldn't even approach whalepeace, with her anger. there is so much in her statement that is true, but much that is equally false.
I will admit, I am not comfortable speaking outside personal experience on this issue, yet I could write days on what I have felt from woman as a man.
I can not say hear hear.
to the spirit of her post, nor the truth. ignorance is the yolk of humanity, and we are equally guilty all, in our own unique ways.
I am interested in what women go through. I could say all men, barring sociopaths and the like, are interested in what women go through. but equally the pressures of traditions and misinformation cloud that. I find most women, who have active concern about the plight of women, atrociously inaccessible, and hyper sensitive. it takes alot of inner strength to stand up against all odds, so I understand. but I mourn what it does to soul. it is not only our parents that have taught us in life, but our first friend, our first crush. I have had to grow past that. it was not easy.
12:52 PM on 06/30/2011
Correct as usual, Mistress.
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01:43 PM on 06/29/2011
"Women themselves ignore [all types of] sexism, and part of it is a coping mechanism," Swim said. "You want to live your life."
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it is like racism and I have experience with both. You do want to live your life and really this stuff crops up often. I pick my battles now when my lines are crossed; other stuff I just chalk up to "stupid stuff men say".
01:10 PM on 06/29/2011
Miss Manners says:

"It has never been easier to insult people unintentionally. A gentleman opens a door for a lady, because his mother taught him that ladies appreciate such courtesies, but this one turns around and spits in his eye because he has insulted her womanhood. A young lady offers her seat in a crowded bus to an elderly, frail gentleman, and he gives her a filthy look because she has insulted his manhood. Mind you, those are just people trying to be nice. The only problem is that they are operating on different systems of etiquette... The lack of agreement about manners results in an anger-ridden, chaotic society, where each trivial act is interpreted as a revelation of the moral philosophy of the individual actor, who is left standing there naked in his mores" (Judith Martin 1985, p. 29).

I think we can't go around being insulted by acts of common courtesy because if we do, people will cease to be nice to one another. We will constantly be on the defensive, expecting everyone we interact with to insult or belittle us. And that will be no fun for anyone.
01:53 PM on 06/29/2011
Addendum: And when respect is confused with disrespect, then no one can claim any sort of moral authority.
11:09 AM on 06/29/2011
Look people, if you allow a feminist group to define how you act, regardless of your sex. Then you have now become a lemming. Be yourself, be happy, and let others do the same. We don't need multimillion dollar studies to tell us that boys act like boys, and girls act like girls. Honestly I love women/girls and all their little qwirks, and my woman/girl loves me and mine.
01:01 AM on 06/30/2011
Hahah! Indeed. Except that:

Some girls don't behave according to the general societal understandings of what girls should do. And that's OK. Ditto for boys. Some humans may act according to the societal understanding of acting 'human', some may act like monkeys. Who cares?

I'm glad you like your girl and 'all her little qwirks'... I'm sure they are completely different to all my little quirks. My quirks are mine and do not directly relate to the fact that each of my cells has 2 X's, or that my genitalia is internal rather than external.

Live and let live. And open the damn door for me already.
10:58 AM on 06/30/2011
I open doors to both women and men and always volunteer to carry groceries for the elderly lady next door. I have asked several men on dates and throughout the years I've paid for more drinks & dinners for guys than they have for me. I have asked two guys to marry me, one even said yes (I'm paying for the wedding BTW). I'm, as most women in our culture, very handy with tools, change my own car tyres and work for a living earning better than my hubby (although that's completely irrelevant).

Also, the men seem to feel unthreatened to be taking care of babies, sewing, cooking and washing the dishes. Or getting asked on dates or more...

My theory is that in the Nordic countries the women have had to work just as hard as the men to make ends meet in the 14th-20th centuries out in the fields. Due to the short summers when to grow crops they needed every able body out there, so sex discrimination wasn't really an option.

Why I'm sharing this is I'm wondering if there's something in the history of women in the States that's keeping sexism alive for so long?
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02:10 PM on 06/30/2011
ANI KM!!!!! NOW HEAR THIS. YOU CAN STOP POSTING TO ME. YOU HAVE GOTTEN ME MIXED UP WITH SOMEONE ELSE. I HAVE NOT POSTED. PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!
10:40 AM on 06/29/2011
To all you ladies that I am about to offend I am a sexist man and I appologize. I was rasied to be sexist. I still open doors for a lady, I give them my seat on a bus, I walk on the road side of a lady, and if I see a lady in a broken down car I stop to give assistance such as changing a flat tire. To make matters worse at home I take care of the yard work, take out the trash, repair things that need repaired, ensure the vehicles are in good condition and pay the bills. Yes, I occasionally do laundry, and dishes but not because I have to because I help get them dirty. I have a wife for over thirty years of marriage, grown daughters and granddaughters so I hope my sexist behavior by men continue towards women.
11:16 AM on 06/29/2011
Most of these are sexist only if you do them because you deem your wife or women in general incapable, or if you would not think of doing them for a man in similar distress or need. Maybe the walking thing but I've noticed in the past that women gravitate to the inside as naturally as men do to the outside so maybe that's a trait common to western cultures or men and women in general. It'd make an interesting study.
Anyway what I really wanted to say is please convey my congrats and green-eyed envy to your wife. She hit the mother load.
02:37 AM on 06/30/2011
Brandynose, I'll convey your message to her but in actuality she deserves it. She was my wife for twenty of the thirty years while I was in the Army. There were times that I was gone for up to a year at a time while she held the house and family together and sometimes in foreign countries. She helped earn every one of my chevrons so what I do and always have is a small price for a lady who has already worked so hard. Plus, I would hate to think that men in general have lost common courtesy. If so then we as parents have failed our children for them only thinking of themselves and not others both male and female. It's only polite to say please and thank you and a kind deed never goes to waste as a smile is free and contagious.
10:55 PM on 06/30/2011
It is okay for a man to help a woman as long as not a single "sexist" (this article has watered that term down quite a bit) thought accompanies him? There has to be a way to judge his intent so the woman knows whether to refuse his help or not on grounds of "sexism"?
Enter the concept of "thoughtcrime," something that only used to be found in enjoyable dystopian novels.
10:39 AM on 06/29/2011
Benevolent sexism is expecting the man to propose marriage. Hopefully this sexist patriarchal custom will end and women will be proposing and men will have the pleasure of accepting or rejecting their marriage proposals.
12:05 PM on 06/29/2011
Yes, or to approach her first, or ask her out, or pay for the date, or....
07:05 PM on 07/01/2011
That's oddly specific and not how it's defined.
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10:33 AM on 06/29/2011
I see. When a man indicates that he'd like to be with a woman, it's sexist, but when the woman makes it plain that hell would freeze over first, it's not. Makes sense.

Now perhaps you can offer some suggestions on what to call the behavior of women who routinely spend large amounts of time and money on clothes and cosmetics, though no man asked them to...
01:41 AM on 07/01/2011
We shall call them victims - of culture.
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02:31 AM on 07/01/2011
It's true that our culture encourages self-victimization - look at how many people continue to rent themselves down the river...
07:12 PM on 07/01/2011
"Unwanted sexual attention [defined by the following behavior]
Heard comments about parts of your or someone's body or clothing.
Experienced staring, ogling, unwanted touching.
Heard comments about sexual behavior someone would like to engage in with you or another person.
Unwanted flirting.
Heard catcalls."

There's nothing in there about approaching a person, expressing an interest in a reasonable way, and accepting what they say. The key is unwanted. Ask someone out? Okay, she says no, that she can't that weekend. You ask again, also no, but this time she clarifies that she isn't interested. YOu continue, keep trying to flirt, etc, she asks you to stop, and you keep at it then that's when it's specifically unwanted. If you think that she's "supposed" to do that and that you're "supposed" to keep after her because, you know, that's how women are-- then you're being sexist.
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09:05 PM on 07/01/2011
Attack strawwomen much? (Mistake joking plays on words for arguments much?)

Seems to me that here's nothing particularly 'benevolent' (remember the title?) about the sexism you describe, nor, for that matter, in that which you exhibit.

Please learn some evolutionary psychology (or even just see my comments page) before preaching further... If I had a child for every woman who told me, 'I love you like a brother'... well, I'd have children.
09:38 AM on 06/29/2011
As some have pointed out, it is interesting how much of the comments here are about something that is not in our article or mentioned by Stampler.
1) We never said men should not help women and Stampler never said that we said this. This idea came from other journalists and blog writers.
2) The most common forms of everyday sexism reported in diaries were: Demeaning comments such as being called a bitch and sexual objectification with the most common form being people oogling them or unwanted touching.
3) Women and men report a similar number of incidents. When men are asked to take the perspective of the person experiencing the incident, they are as likely as women to call the incidents sexist. So, these are not incidents that women are more sensitive to than men.
4) The primary finding from the study is that when people pay attention to such incidents in their lives, and men think about how a person experiencing the incident feels, they are more likely at a later time to reject sexist beliefs.
5) The one exception is that men still endorse certain types of sexist beliefs. These beliefs have been termed “benevolent sexism”. It is not about being benevolent to women but about treating women in such a manner that appears positive but isn't really positive (e.g., treating women like children).
12:26 PM on 06/29/2011
Thanks for the thoughtful post. My thoughts, by number:

1) Those were brought up as cases where men are not sure about whether their behavior is sexist or not, or disagree about it. It's a landmine.
2) Okay, but those aren't "benevolent sexism."
3) Again, that's why some people brought up the problem of incidents where it's not clear, such as holding doors.
4) Okay. Kind of obvious and boring though.
5) Right. Back to square one.

And benevolent sexism goes both ways, even if I personally reject it. I don't want to lift that heavy box either. I don't want to be drafted in the Army and get my nads shot off while the women stay home.
01:04 PM on 06/29/2011
The idea of Benevolent sexism is unique and does draw attention and controversy. Because folks readily turn to the idea of "holdiing doors for women" as an example of Benevolent Sexism, it may be useful to provide alternative examples. Of course people can disagree about whether they are sexist but the illustrations might be useful to illustrate the concept. Here are two examples of what I would call Benevolent Sexism (as reported by Benokraitis and Feagin in their book titled "Modern Sexism"):

1. I was in the hall reading the riot act to [a student]--a tall, big basketball star -- who had missed several exams. My chairman was walking by, came over, put his arm around my waist, smiled, and said to the student, "Isn't she cut? Don't you just L-O-V-E her?" They both laughed. It took a while to re-establish my professional credibility with this student.

2. Some physicians do not take girls' athletic injuries seriously. For example, they put off surgery—[although they admitted it was] probably necessary -- because as one doctor said [to a student], "You don't want an ugly scar on your knee do you?”

The wiki page on Ambivalent Sexism is pretty good if folks want more information about benevolent sexism and its paring with hostile sexism.

And yes, there is similar research on sexism toward men.
07:16 PM on 07/01/2011
Thank you for posting Dr. Swim. People often run ahead with their preconceived notions, usually stereotypical, of what a "feminist" would say ("feminist" itself being a construct based on hearsay and not any actual interaction or knowledge of feminism) and attempt to rebut an argument that was never made.