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Dems Push For DREAM Act Without GOP Support

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First Posted: 06/28/11 01:41 PM ET Updated: 08/28/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Republicans showed no signs of supporting the DREAM Act at a hearing for the bill on Tuesday, with Sens. John Cornyn (Texas) and Chuck Grassley (Iowa) pressing for more border security in exchange for their support for a bill that would provide legal status to some undocumented young people.

Three representatives from the Obama administration spoke in support of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to some young people who entered the United States as children and agree to attend college or join the military, provided they have a clean criminal record and meet other eligibility requirements.

Department of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, Education Secretary Arne Duncan and Under Secretary of Defense Clifford Stanley said the administration fully supports the bill because it would widen the pool for military recruits, encourage higher education and allow immigration enforcement officials to focus their efforts on dangerous undocumented immigrants.

Duncan said the DREAM Act would generate $1.4 billion more in revenue than it would cost over the next decade, money that could go toward reducing the current $14.29 trillion deficit.

"To not take advantage of this as a country is simply nonsensical to me," he said. "This is an investment, not an expense."

But Cornyn and Grassley, who were the only Republicans to speak at the hearing, said they were still unconvinced of the merits of the bill, which has been around since the 1990s. Grassley questioned whether the Department of Homeland Security was bypassing Congress with a recent memo that reminded field agents to focus on top priorities, such as undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of felonies.

He also pressed Napolitano on whether the administration will offer administrative relief for young men and women who would be eligible for the DREAM Act, an executive power that Democrats have repeatedly asked the president to use.

Napolitano said President Barack Obama has rejected the idea of using administrative action to stop deportation of DREAM Act-eligible students.

"The policy of the department is there can be no categorical amnesty and there will not be, and that is why Congress needs to act," Napolitano said.

Cornyn said he supports the ideas behind the bill, but cannot vote for a bill that provides "amnesty" without enforcement measures.

"This bill, sadly, does nothing to fix our broken immigration system," he said. "It's a band-aid, and maybe worse, it will provide an incentive for future illegal immigration."

Democrats pushed back at that characterization, pointing out that border enforcement is already at record levels.

"To use border security as a reason not to give these kids a chance makes no sense to me," Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said.

Although the bill faces an uphill battle -- it failed in the Senate last year with more Republican support than it currently has -- Democrats said they will continue to push for the DREAM Act as an issue of fairness for the young people who support the bill, whom Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) called some of the bravest he had encountered.

"We enjoy being Americans," he said. "Let people who work hard to be Americans enjoy it too."

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WASHINGTON -- Republicans showed no signs of supporting the DREAM Act at a hearing for the bill on Tuesday, with Sens. John Cornyn (Texas) and Chuck Grassley (Iowa) pressing for more border security i...
WASHINGTON -- Republicans showed no signs of supporting the DREAM Act at a hearing for the bill on Tuesday, with Sens. John Cornyn (Texas) and Chuck Grassley (Iowa) pressing for more border security i...
 
 
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
06:54 AM on 07/13/2011
"5. Certain Criminal Aliens—Including Drunk Drivers—Will Be Eligible For Amnesty Under The DREAM Act
Certain categories of criminal aliens can qualify for status under the DREAM Act. The bill includes a 1 felony/3-misdemeanor rule, similar to the 1986 amnesty rule. As a result, criminal aliens who have less than 3 misdemeanor convictions will remain eligible for legal, permanent status through the DREAM Act. Some misdemeanors can be extremely serious, such as driving under the influence, certain drug offenses, gang activity, some charges of sexual abuse of a minor, assault and battery, and even prostitution. 6. Conservative Estimates Suggest That At Least 2.1 Million Illegal Aliens Will Be Eligible For the DREAM Act Amnesty; In Reality, We Have No Idea How Many Illegal Aliens Will Apply."

http://borderissues.us/2011/07/04/sen-sessions-new-dream-act-is-worse-than-before/
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C Kevin Provance again
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10:12 PM on 07/02/2011
DREAM act? Seems to me for the REAL citizens of this country, it's more like the NIGHTMARE act. Let's take care of our own people first folks, before worrying about everyone elses problems.
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Aaron Watkins
À Rebours
11:04 PM on 07/01/2011
More contributions by illegal immigrant youth whom the government refuses to deport.

A double murder by...

"Busso-Estopellan was also charged in a complaint on April 29 with driving under the influence of drugs, a marijuana violation and a drug paraphernalia violation, court records state.
Court records show he was in the country illegally and was awaiting deportation."

http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/2011/07/01/20110701mesa-killings-suspect-arrested-abrk.html

It happens all the time in Arizona. Right before the President's speech in El Paso where he lied and said the border is safe and that there shold be an amnesty, two police officers were shot (1 killed) by a person who was supposed to be deported but the sancturuary state of California decided not to bother.

President Obama is more concerned about the Latino vote than the safety of US citizens.
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Rory Canfield
Rwy'n ysbaddu fy cath, nawr mae'n ryddfrydol
09:46 AM on 07/01/2011
When I hear that Education Secretary Arne Duncan think that this legislation is an investment and not an expense, it only confirms what many of us already know about this administration, that they are in over their heads. Duncan either is ignorant of the real costs to the American public that this massive amnesty will be or stupid or whole heartedly beleives the lies of the administration or hates those who come here legally so much he is willing to cater to a group of people who break the very laws of this country. I don't know if I can say all of the above but, they fit.
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Aaron Watkins
À Rebours
07:22 AM on 07/01/2011
"Napolitano said President Barack Obama has rejected the idea of using administrative action to stop deportation of DREAM Act-eligible students."

Its too late for that little lie. The article does not mention that there is already a defacto Amnesty Act ordered by President Obama.

Attached is a memo from the ICE Union asking citizens to stand up against orders they have received to not take action against people who would be considered for amnesty under the Dream Act. Obama has acted against the direct vote of the representatives in congress and ordered ICE to enforce amnesty policies operationally.

http://www.iceunion.org/download/286-287-press-release-pd-memo.pdf
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Rory Canfield
Rwy'n ysbaddu fy cath, nawr mae'n ryddfrydol
08:49 AM on 07/01/2011
Stop with the facts already, the heads of the dems are going to explode :)
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
03:46 AM on 07/02/2011
Facts? You think facts are a republican's friend? Tell me are you for or against killing medicare and social security? Republicans tell you voucher care is better for you, and you think this is a fact.

There are lots of democrats who think any amnesty is a bad idea, but your republican talk show hosts tell you differently. Do some of your own thinking, at least sometime.

I think the 2 party system should be thrown out to force people just to support people with good ideas instead of just following the butt in front of them.
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Aaron Watkins
À Rebours
07:22 AM on 07/01/2011
"Peddibhotla cited new deportation guidelines that tell federal agents to use prosecutorial discretion when immigrants are not considered a priority for deportation. John Morton, the nation's director of immigration enforcement, announced the new guidelines in a memo released Friday. Among those who deserve special consideration are college students who came to the United States as children, according to the memo."

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_18322988?nclick_check=1

"As a general rule, ICE detention resources should be used to support the enforcement priorities noted above or for aliens subject to mandatory detention by law. Absent extraordinary circumstances or the requirements of mandatory detention, field office directors should not expend detention resources on aliens who are known to be suffering from serious physical or mental illness, or who are disabled, elderly, pregnant. or nursing, or demonstrate that they are primary caretakers ofchildren or an infirm person, OR WHOSE DETENTION IS OTHERWISE NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST."

http://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2011/110302washingtondc.pdf

It has become standard knowledge within federal immigration enforcement that Obama wants a defacto Dream Act enforced, despite the fact that it has failed to be legislated TWICE.

Know that this for the next election, Obama does not respect the legislative process and will legislate by executive orders even if the will of the people have defeated those ideologies with our Republican processes.
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Aaron Watkins
À Rebours
06:46 AM on 07/01/2011
Illegal immigration will be the death of the dems. This is the third time in over a year that they have tried to push the through with no solution to stop the problem. When will they learn we do not want another amnesty until they fix the problem?

1986 amnesty of 3 million illegals with no enforcement afterwards
2011 amnesy of 12 million illegals with no enforcement afterwards

Is it really that difficult to see where this is going?
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
04:01 PM on 07/01/2011
F & F for your sense of logic
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carleronn
Former bond trader
03:48 PM on 06/30/2011
When he saw all those future roles in the room, including an unconstitutionally elected president, Durbin forgot to metion muggers, rapist and prisoners
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
03:49 AM on 07/02/2011
"unconstitu­tionally elected president"

Link?
03:32 PM on 06/30/2011
It's sad to read all of this comments of people who think that they know but they don't know anything. Immigrants pay taxes but don't get a tax return unless they have an ITIN but still don't get the full amount. They are not allowed to use the federal aid system because they don't have a social security number. All of this knowledge that some of you seem to have is worthless and heartless... This young kids have not done anything wrong yet they are called criminals, huh? The parents that brought them here in search of a better future work hard and most get paid minimum wage and are often taken advantage, but it's all worth it to them because their kids will have a better future. Do you blame their parents, are they really criminals also?? Many of you say "go to the back of the line" but there is no line for them or their life depends on it. Blessed are those who did have a line and the money. Many of you are focused on this world but are forgetting about eternity. God will judge us according to our faith and not for how many rules or laws we broke. "All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins might be exposed. But those who do what's right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants" John 3:20.
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Aaron Watkins
À Rebours
06:48 AM on 07/01/2011
Just because someone broke the law doesn't mean they are entitled to what they stole.

If someone steals a car and doesn't get caught for 10 years until after they have given it to their children, do the children have a right to the car?

Lets fix the problem before we even think of more amnesties.
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
03:58 PM on 07/01/2011
IRS Wedsite ~

4 million Income Tax Returns filed annually using ITINs issued by the IRS

Good News ~ $9 million generated revenues generated for the U.S. Treasury

Bad News ~ $22 million paid out in annual REFUNDS to ITINs filers from the U.S. Treasury

A NET LOSS of $13 million from the U.S. Treasury

PEWHispanic.org ~ 6.7 million of the 8 million illegals are Mexican Nationals working illegally in the USA, whom send home to Mexico, annually $21 Billion USD ill gotten earnings from working illegally in the USA
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WhereSheStops
Mathematical conservative
02:18 PM on 06/30/2011
Go for it, Mr. President. Go for it.

You always said you'd be happy being a successful one term president. Please do this.
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
03:54 AM on 07/02/2011
Let's face it, Obama's getting a second term, why? Because all of the republicans are empty heads, that are pro business and anti people, they got nothing. See Wisconsin, this is what's in store for the nation when the republicans are back in power. Better start buying gold now. This could happen as soon as 2016.
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WhereSheStops
Mathematical conservative
11:04 AM on 07/02/2011
What about Wisconsin? Things are looking up here. I am so proud and happy that I voted for Scott Walker.
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azlegalcitizen
INDEPENDENT
01:11 AM on 07/04/2011
But he hasn't kept his word so far, so you expect him to now do so?
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WhereSheStops
Mathematical conservative
12:44 PM on 07/04/2011
Well, no.

Just thinking that there would be *very interesting* consequences if he decided to make an end run around congress and law-respecting citizens on this one.
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allengoldchain
Freedom is never voluntarily given bythe oppressor
02:06 PM on 06/30/2011
Today the people of MD have placed a stop to the MD Dream Act. Amazing how people put more efforts to those who break the law and while ignoring the troops who serve this country.

MD requires soldiers and their family members to reside in their state for a full year before they can qualify for instate tuition. Then they turn around and pass this? Good thing the people of MD have spoken up... Dream Act stopped...for now
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WhereSheStops
Mathematical conservative
12:44 PM on 07/04/2011
+1000
09:41 AM on 06/30/2011
The DREAM Act will officially end California Dreamin'.
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allengoldchain
Freedom is never voluntarily given bythe oppressor
02:13 PM on 06/30/2011
I would just say send them over to CA. CA is a sanctuary state anyways.
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Rory Canfield
Rwy'n ysbaddu fy cath, nawr mae'n ryddfrydol
08:53 AM on 07/01/2011
We can only hope it ends the California Dream...
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
04:06 AM on 06/30/2011
The DREAM Act of 2011, S. 952 ~ introduced into the U.S. Senate, May 11, 2011

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c112:1:./temp/~c112fdnYmz:e1408:
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
09:34 AM on 06/30/2011
Hopefully ~ a working link

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s952is/pdf/BILLS-112s952is.pdf
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
03:33 AM on 06/30/2011
If the Dream Act passes you will see a flood of false documents. Plus a new wave of illegals coming in to wait out the next amnesty.
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WhereSheStops
Mathematical conservative
02:20 PM on 06/30/2011
Yes.
02:22 PM on 06/30/2011
This by far the most misguided comment every. You cannot false documents, and it will not create future immigration. The bill is limited for those that have a record of being here for at least 5 years before the age of 15.
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IAmWallis
I'm an independent news enthusiast.
09:46 PM on 06/30/2011
no what this does is create the argument to say we shouldnt discriminate to anyone. then we grant blanket amnesty. then more illegals migrate, and the claim is made that it would be immoral to deny them.

eventually we lose all sovereignty. because there is always a sob story. always a reason to support the destruction of our country and the utter disregard for its laws.
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Aaron Watkins
À Rebours
07:28 AM on 07/01/2011
Ok. You don't see it as incentive for more people to come here and avoid being caught until the next amnesty?

1986 Amnesty 3 million illegals
2011 Amnesty 12 million illegals

At what point do you want to speak of enforcement and not more incentives for more to come.
11:05 PM on 06/29/2011
It doesn't pay for employers to be diligent with applicants

The Virginian-Pilot
© June 30, 2011
If you've ever suspected that Washington isn't exactly serious about stemming the tide of illegal immigration, get a load of the latest move by the Justice Department.

A crack legal team is going after a subsidiary of Smithfield Foods because it reportedly required more than the minimum amount of documentation from job applicants to prove that they were in the country legally.

In other words, Smithfield - a company that says it relies on immigrant labor - is in hot water for earnestly trying not to hire illegal workers.

http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2011/06/it-doesnt-pay-employers-be-diligent-applicants
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azlegalcitizen
INDEPENDENT
10:39 PM on 07/01/2011
Simple defence OF Smithfield,all they have to do is to ask for a jury trial. If they use locals for jurors the 'crack lawyers' will fail. Every juror will know or have a family member who has lost a job to an illegal... every state is being abused by the illegals.. Their days are OVER , IT WILLBE '' OUT WITH THEM'' IF A LOCAL JURY GET A CRACK AT THEM.
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WhereSheStops
Mathematical conservative
12:46 PM on 07/04/2011
wow, just wow