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Advocacy Groups Look To Pitchfork's Odd Future Booking To Spread Awareness Of Violence Against Women

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First Posted: 06/30/11 03:18 PM ET Updated: 08/30/11 06:12 AM ET

When controversial rap outfit Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All was booked to play the upcoming Pitchfork Music Festival, many were surprised. The group has been heavily criticized for its lyrics referencing violence against women and the LGBT community, and on Wednesday, WBEZ's Jim DeRogatis reported that a coalition of domestic violence groups would be protesting the festival for that reason.

Organizers, however, told HuffPost Chicago their goal has little to do with the specific music act at all and that "protest," in this case, was a bit of a misnomer.

Rather, they are looking to the festival as an opportunity to raise awareness of the seriousness of violence of all sorts perpetrated against women and to provide festival-goers with information about the services they provide, Sharmili Majmudar, executive director of Rape Victim Advocates, said.

"We're not talking about us wearing t-shirts that have a picture of Tyler in a circle with a slash across his face or anything like that," Majmudar told HuffPost Chicago. "This is not just about Odd Future. While their booking was kind of the catalyst to our action, I think what this is really about how we as a culture minimize, ignore or glorify violence against women."

"Hopefully people will think and not just consume their music mindlessly," she added.

In Odd Future's "Swag Me Out," for example, the group proclaims: "I'mma take your bitch back to my crib / You already know my dick is gon' be in ribs," "Two nazi dykes shittin' in a Synagogue / Cause that bitch lick balls from Western to Crenshaw" and concludes with: "Chop a bitches head off and get a pleasure nut off, bitch."

In response, Between Friends, a "nonprofit agency dedicated to breaking the cycle of domestic violence and building a community free of abuse," along with Rape Victim Advocates and the YWCA established an IndieGoGo campaign with the hopes of raising $1,500 to help them purchase some 5,000 hand fans they will distribute to festival-goers. The fans will offer a list of resources in addition to "a powerful message about violence against women," according to the campaign's page.

As of Thursday morning, the final day of the campaign, the group already surpassed their fundraising goal.

Colleen Norton, prevention and education manager at Between Friends, emphasized, too, that their group recognizes Odd Future's right to "make their art and say what they have to say." The campaign is about using the festival "as an opportunity for people to hear our message that violence against women is a big issue, especially in Chicago."

"It's not a protest. We're not trying to say anyone else is wrong in doing what they're doing, but we're just trying to continue to raise awareness and educate people about the issue," Norton added.

Though vendor space, which the group initially applied for, was already booked, the fan distribution provides an opportunity to both spread a message and keep people slightly cooler in the mid-July heat. Norton added that Pitchfork organizers have been "very supportive" of their planned fan distribution and will be hosting an advertisement on the festival's website directing visitors to learn more about the group.

Majmudar described both their campaign and the response they have already received as "really energizing," even in light of some critics who question why an advocacy group is targeting a popular outdoor music festival in the first place.

"We can't just be working on this issue from the other side of a crisis hotline. Those services are extremely important but we need to talk about what our culture does to support violence against women and promote a mythology about the issue that often leaves victims blamed or silenced," she added. "A music festival is exactly where we need to be. We need to be a lot of places, but that is definitely one of them."

Pitchfork organizers did not respond to HuffPost Chicago's request for comment for this story, though Ryan Schreiber told TimeOut he was "pretty curious" about Odd Future's upcoming set at the festival he founded.

"Pitchfork has always been focused on emerging talent, especially artists who come at music from an interesting perspective and push boundaries, and they definitely fit the bill in that regard," Schreiber said. "I’m sure lots of people will check out the other stage or hang out in the grass during their set, and those who’re excited for it will be front and center."

UPDATE: In a statement received late Thursday, Pitchfork spokeswoman Jessica Linker said that no organizations have approached the festival to speak against any of the artists on the event's lineup and that it had been too late in the festival planning process for Between Friends to participate on the festival's grounds, though they are attempting to remedy that.

"We were and are very sympathetic to their causes, and had already made arrangements with Between Friends for free ad space on our website to help promote their message, which will begin running on Friday, July 1," Linker wrote. "We have also been in talks with Between Friends Programs Director Yesenia Maldonado, and are planning to meet and discuss how we can represent their organization on the grounds."

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When controversial rap outfit Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All was booked to play the upcoming Pitchfork Music Festival, many were surprised. The group has been heavily criticized for its lyrics ref...
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FeralForever
I'm watching you...so play nice
05:36 AM on 07/04/2011
Would this be acceptable if such hatred were put in racial terms? What if a white person were 'singing' that vileness about b.lacks? Just exchange the n-word for the b-word and it would NEVER be allowed in public. This world is so sc.rew.ed up. What these males are doing is supposed to pass for talent?
04:58 PM on 07/07/2011
you're stupid. there is no other way to put it. what have you heard from OF? Like what? 5 songs? Or are you just finding out about them now? Have you heard Frank Ocean? Hodgy Beats? Jet Age of Tomorrow? All of which are on Odd Future, and never have (besides Hodgy Beats sometimes) those type of shock lyrics Tyler, The Creator SOMETIMES have (because I'm pretty sure you haven't heard songs like 'She'" either. Yes. They are talented. Very much so. And it annoys me when people like you judge them. Tyler makes his own beats, directs his own videos, and has cosigns from some of the biggest names in hip hop. So yes, to answer your question, this is supposed to pass as talent. More talent than you will probably ever have.

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FREE EARL!
05:21 PM on 07/07/2011
seems i commented twice, don't know if they'll post the other, because it has some offense in it i guess. But I keep my point even if they post my 2nd version of my comment above . You're totally ignorant towards the group and their music. Bet you didn't know there's a girl in the group.
05:12 PM on 07/07/2011
You're stupid. You're comments below bothered me the most because you are THAT ignorant towards the group. Tell me, have you ever listened to any song by Odd Future? Any at all? MellowHype (a group within the group odd future) has songs like "Hell" with verses dedicated to their love for music and mother. Also, I bet you didn't know that there's a girl in Odd Future. Bet you feel even more ignorant know. ALSO, tell me, have you listened ever to Frank Ocean, or Jet Age of Tomorrow (both of which are in Odd Future)? I doubt it, I doubt you've heard songs like "we all try". You're just going off what's said above. They don't always make lyrics like that and like I said below that song was supposed to be a joke. It's ignorant fxcks like you who ruin Odd Future's chance of getting any new listeners (which by the way, shouldn't matter, they have many ;) ) . Tyler, The Creator (front man of the group) makes all his own beats, directs his own videos, and has cosigns from some of the biggest names in hip hop, because them, UNLIKE YOU, took one hour out of their day to listen to other songs by them. So yes, this is supposed to pass as talent, more talent then you'll ever have, and their only in their teens XD.

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08:58 PM on 07/03/2011
This hipster nonsense needs to stop. Everyone is afraid to speak out against musicians like this for fear of being un-hip or prudish. Read those lyrics above again and tell me how that's justifiable under any circumstances. I don't care how rough your childhood was or what inner demons you are struggling with, those kind of lyrics are inexcusable. I'm glad some groups are bringing attention to it and shame on Pitchfork for putting hipster cool factor above common sense.
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FeralForever
I'm watching you...so play nice
05:38 AM on 07/04/2011
Well said, AJ...Faved
05:00 PM on 07/07/2011
"Swag Me Out" is supposed to be taken as a joke, it was a song made by them specifically so random people like you and reports like the one above can take the lyrics out of context, take one of their songs they know people would hate to read the lyrics of and not take lyrics from frank ocean's "we all try" who is in odd future, JUST so people like you can criticize over something you know NOTHING about.
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01:15 AM on 07/01/2011
I didn't think OFWGKTA were popular enough to get publicity demonstrating against for their lyrics. I've heard of underground hip hop, but underground protesting?
11:53 PM on 06/30/2011
No one takes the time to look past the violence of Odd Future. Tyler's solo album, "Goblin" is actually a deep, existential concept album about a rapper who is taken over with multiple-personality disorder.
When the lyrics are violent, he is rapping from the point of view of the fictional "Wolf Haley." When they are introspective, he raps as himself. If you actually read the lyrics of the song, "Goblin," and stop being ignorant, this is what you'll find:

"I was determined to be great, so those classes can wait
For the four days that I went, I wasn't learning s**t
Now I'm living dreams that I wanted since 8
Yet I can't afford to get something for my mother on her birthday."

and also

"They claim the s**t I say is just wrong
Like nobody has those really dark thoughts when alone
I'm just a teenager, who admits he's suicide prone
But my life is doing pretty good, so that date is postponed for now."

and finally

"My friends really think I'm playing when I say I need counseling
I sit in grandmother's living room and just pout
And shout loud inside, sometimes I just want to die"

So, to all those who say Tyler only raps violently, listen to the music before judging it based off a few lines from a song from the perspective of his alter-ego.
11:20 AM on 07/01/2011
Actually, they both sound like serious cries for help from a troubled, sick individual. And no, I don't have a psychology degree, but I did stay at a Holiday inn Express last night.
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05:32 AM on 07/04/2011
the problem isn't necessarily with tyler's alter ego, or the song from his perspective. where the problem lies is with the people who are listening to his songs and have trouble distinguishing between real life and fiction....mainly those with under-developed reasoning skills or as most people call them, teenagers.
also, there's nothing exceptionally deep about this song, or any others that he has created, just because he's taken the time to speak from a mentally-challenged alter ego and no one else has per se. deep songs are those with hidden messages that promote inner changes, not glorify violence on the pretense of being 'deep.' simply put, this music is tra.sh!
11:00 AM on 07/06/2011
But when films like Salo` are released, we call it art? Why is it that when a troubled teenager wants to release his pseudo-cinematic vision through music rather than film it's trash?
Nothing deep about an album that literally follows a direct story line? And when does he glorify violence? The only drawback to his "Goblin" album is when he starts with a disclaimer. "Don't do anything I say in this song; it's fiction. Don't blame me if anything happens." That's the one thing that I hated. It showed he doesn't take himself seriously.

Take a listen even DEEPER to it...

"Therapist: 'B****rd' was good, though
Tyler: What you think I recorded it for? To have the critics go and call my s**t a bunch of horrorcore? Of course they only listen to lyrics about me p*ssing off in the tombs of Lara Croft"

I'm surprised feminists don't spend time complaining about Lara Croft's inane portrayal of women.

"Tyler: They want to critique everything that Wolf Gang has ever release but they don't get it.
Therapist: Because it's not made for them.
Tyler: Because it's not made for them. The n***a in the mirror rapping it's made for him, but they don't have the mindset that's the same as him."
Perhaps it's not made for you. So kindly turn your back while Tyler makes music for people that understand. I'm sure you'll have fun watching gore-and-rape-ridden "art-films."
03:41 PM on 06/30/2011
Some day they'll call drive-bys "performance art."
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FeralForever
I'm watching you...so play nice
05:40 AM on 07/04/2011
LOL!
05:05 PM on 07/07/2011
But when films like Salo` are released, we call it art? Why is it that when a troubled teenager wants to release his pseudo-cin­ematic vision through music rather than film it's trash?
Nothing deep about an album that literally follows a direct story line? And when does he glorify violence? The only drawback to his "Goblin" album is when he starts with a disclaimer­. "Don't do anything I say in this song; it's fiction. Don't blame me if anything happens." That's the one thing that I hated. It showed he doesn't take himself seriously.

Take a listen even DEEPER to it...

"Therapist­: 'B****rd' was good, though
Tyler: What you think I recorded it for? To have the critics go and call my s**t a bunch of horrorcore­? Of course they only listen to lyrics about me p*ssing off in the tombs of Lara Croft"

I'm surprised feminists don't spend time complainin­g about Lara Croft's inane portrayal of women.

"Tyler: They want to critique everything that Wolf Gang has ever release but they don't get it.
Therapist: Because it's not made for them.
Tyler: Because it's not made for them. The n***a in the mirror rapping it's made for him, but they don't have the mindset that's the same as him."
Perhaps it's not made for you. So kindly turn your back while Tyler makes music for people that understand­. I'm sure you'll have fun watching gore-and-r­ape-ridden "art-films­."
03:22 PM on 06/30/2011
Be interesting to see if this Women's rights group clashes with the crazy Evangelical Christians who are always outside Grant Park at events and music fest like this...I'd put money on that fight!
03:42 PM on 06/30/2011
I think Pitchfork's at Union Park.
02:50 PM on 06/30/2011
even in light of some critics who question why an advocacy group is targeting a popular outdoor music festival in the first place.

So what if they are attending? Why would someone be offended by a group advocating to end violence against women? I don't get the criticism.
04:43 PM on 06/30/2011
Who's offended or criticizing? No one seems to be..and the group doesn't seem to be protesting Odd Future's set in particular. And they're gonna get some advertising on P4K in the deal. So, everyone's happy.
01:06 PM on 07/05/2011
I'm not really sure wwho the critics are but I grabbed the quote from the article saying there are people criticizing them for coming out. They think there shouldn't be advocacy groups at rock concerts I guess because rock stars have nothing to say, ever.... (thats sarcasm by the way)