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Social Security Advocates Slam COLA Cut Proposals

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First Posted: 07/01/11 04:58 PM ET Updated: 08/31/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Prominent Social Security advocates expressed deep concern Friday at news that lawmakers may change the way the government measures inflation for taxes and federal benefit programs, weighing such a move as part of a last-minute deal to raise the nation's statutory debt limit while simultaneously cutting the federal budget.

Lawmakers and the Obama administration are reportedly considering switching to a "chained" Consumer Price Index. According to the advocacy group Strengthen Social Security, the chained-CPI could lead to annual Social Security benefit cuts of $560 for those aged 75, $984 for those aged 85 and $1,392 for those aged 95.

"The proposal to shift to the chained-CPI is actually a stealth attack on Social Security," said Joan Entmacher, director of family economic security at the National Women's Law Center, during a Friday conference call with reporters. Her comments were echoed by Strengthen Social Security Campaign co-chair Nancy Altman. She said, "The chained-CPI is poor policy, and given that seniors vote in disproportionately high numbers, it is equally poor politics."

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the chained CPI "employs a formula that reflects the effect of substitution that consumers make across item categories in response to changes in relative prices." Such a system estimates a lower cost of living for Americans, especially during recessions, by assuming that consumers buy less during tough economic times. This approach has been touted by some economists and lawmakers as a more accurate way to measure cost of living.

Social Security advocates say the measure is an inaccurate and unfair way to calculate costs for seniors. A recent report by the Economic Policy Institute, a progressive Washington think tank, states that the chained-CPI is "inappropriate for calculating Social Security COLAs [because] consumption patterns of Social Security recipients differ from those of the general population." The report goes on to note that "the 65-and-older population spends two to three times more on health care than does the general population, and prices for health care are rising much faster than inflation."

The suggested shift to the chained-CPI has drawn some positive attention from lawmakers because of its potential to both cut Federal spending and raise income taxes. Dow Jones reports that, while they declined to go into detail about specific deficit-cutting proposals, senior Democratic and Republican leaders have suggested that the chained-CPI option is still on the table.

The very mention of Social Security as part of a potential compromise on deficit reduction has the program's backers on edge. "In the case of Social Security, instead of seeing it as the sum of two numbers which can be cut or raised to push the overall budget deficit down, it really should be looked at from the perspective of overall retirement security in this country," says Josh Bivens, an economist with EPI.

Altman summed up her views on politicians willing to bargain on Social Security by bluntly stating, "If they want to reassure the American people that Washington can be trusted with worker's contributions to Social Security, they should leave Social Security out of the debt-limit deal. The choice is theirs and so will be the consequences."

Senior lobbying powerhouse AARP -- among the most powerful interest groups in Washington -- has said it is open to reducing Social Security benefits, but not as part of a debt limit deal.

Negotiators have until Aug. 2 before the nation defaults on its debt, potentially stopping all payments to citizens (including Social Security beneficiaries) and triggering an economic crisis.

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WASHINGTON -- Prominent Social Security advocates expressed deep concern Friday at news that lawmakers may change the way the government measures inflation for taxes and federal benefit programs, weig...
WASHINGTON -- Prominent Social Security advocates expressed deep concern Friday at news that lawmakers may change the way the government measures inflation for taxes and federal benefit programs, weig...
 
 
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Nonpartay 11:40 PM on 07/02/2011
Remember the last Congressional election in NY26? The Democrat won because the Republican backed the Ryan budget which ended Medicare. People won't vote for people who want to cut either Social Security or Medicare. So, the best thing we can all do is to write our representatives and let them know how we feel about all this. We could also write to President Obama so he understands what it's like not  Read More...
11:22 AM on 07/07/2011
Since a 5%+ COLA increase in Social Security two years ago, there has been no adjustment to Social Security. Prices in general have gone up substantially in the past two years. Gas, medical, and food are all items used by everyone and they have all gone up. I am on Social Security with a disability and have Medicare. Our budget has been squeezed substantially. Even the cost of credit has become prohibitive and we have good credit ratings, my spouse and I.

Playing games with COLA is politics. Playing politics with Social Security and Medicare is wrong. Our society has determined that Social Security and Medicare are entitled to everyone qualified to receive them. And my spouse and I paid into the system for many years and she still does pay into the system. I paid in for over 35 years before becoming disabled.

I think Social Security recipients should have had an increase for the past two years. I don't understand why the formula would not allow it. I would love to see the details of how inflation is calculated. I am not a genius, but I would understand the details if presented properly.

I understand the position older folks are being put in now. I feel for the people without jobs and with few prospects to get a job as well. To not come together and raise the taxes on the people that can afford it is stupid (politics).
Pauline Jaing
Artist, worker, mother
07:21 AM on 07/07/2011
Mr. Hope and Change strikes again.

I wonder what kind of deamon devil world they are cooking up for us next?
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Botany5000
10:51 AM on 07/03/2011
Return Social Security back to its roots as a supplement to retirement.
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sprkyreed
02:54 PM on 07/07/2011
Surely many SS recipents thought that it would be a supplement but forced early retirement due to booting older people out of jobs, castrotrophic illness, and devaluation of their investments and property, has reduced many who never expected to depend upon SS in exactly that position. Of course, that will never happen to you, right? Are you a politician?
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Botany5000
03:18 PM on 07/07/2011
The people who I saw at the SS office, BTW it was my first time there only to fill out required Medicare documents, were all UNDER forty!!!
None of them spoke English, and this was in Lilly white New Hampshire!
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Botany5000
09:44 AM on 07/03/2011
How come all the pictures of Social Security have old people holding signs,
and
both times, I have been in a Social Security Office I saw people all under forty,
non of whom spoke English, applying for benefits?
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sprkyreed
03:02 PM on 07/07/2011
That's because people were added to the SS payroll through the largesse of our government, not the generosity of seniors who paid into the system their entire working life. Granted, the SS payroll needs a purging but US citizens who paid into the program all of their working years in good faith should not be screwed.
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Botany5000
03:16 PM on 07/07/2011
AMEN!!!
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
09:16 AM on 07/03/2011
Seniors screwed everything up just as much if not more than anyone else did -- welcome to the jungle, baby. I don't know why i pay for a progam I will never be able to use. Should have thought about someone other than yourself when you voted.
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danneb1024
counting down to foxlessness
09:53 AM on 07/03/2011
liar..you folks really sound desperate..the fact that you are willing to tell these stories to sell out fellow citizens speaks volumes about you religious extremists
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
10:05 AM on 07/03/2011
I am an athiest, i am gay, and i am brown. i know who doesn't like me. its not "kids these days".
Do you really think Biggie and Tupac jokes are funny? Eeeck.
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02:47 PM on 07/03/2011
Indeed, current Social Security Recipients must be asking, why did I contribute to a fund which now is going back on our agreement. Why was I FORCED to pay money to a fund that is now changing the rules. A lot of people are getting a raw deal from social security funds issues, its not just limited to the younger generation.
The facts of the matter are that the Fund would be solvent and in no difficulty BUT FOR the fact that the Fund was used as a convenient "rich uncle" that was "borrowed" from by legislators to balance budgets, fund their causes, etc. At the time the funds were "borrowed" of course all those responsible dutifully promised to "pay it back" however now in the intervening years there seems to be an attention defiict disorder problem, a memory problem, selective recall, call it what you will, the real fact is that the money was stolen by politicians after which they now try to paint those collecting or hoping to collect the money promised them are being called Entitlement Drains on society. In essence, the people it was stolen from are now being accused of causing the problem by the thieves and robbers really responsible.

Our politicians need to be "reminded" of their "loan" and reminded to PAY IT BACK instead of turning the tables on the people they stole from and actually making the victims pay the price of the theft committed by others.
02:59 AM on 07/21/2011
You are absolutely correct.
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TruEngineHearing
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09:15 AM on 07/03/2011
Forget retirement; forget security. We're charting a course to the edge of the earth with a crew of egomaniacs, bank robbers and con artists

When even Democrat politicians try to sell us a song and dance about the insignificance of inflation, it's time to mow them down and start anew - with different folks that understand the fact that "the 65-and-older population spends two to three times more on health care than does the general population, and prices for health care are rising much faster than inflation."

The Titanic sails at dawn - the GOP is already on board, and it looks like the Democrats are heading for the docks - but I can't yet tell whether they're gonna get on board, or wave goodbye.
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TAMPA M
Say hello to my little friend
08:02 AM on 07/03/2011
Well somebody's got pay for the Bush tax breaks. It's not like they're going to pay for themselves.
02:21 AM on 07/03/2011
How about taxing people for social security who make above the cap limit? Another tax loop for the wealthy elite.
01:16 AM on 07/03/2011
If Social Security benefits are "on the table" so are the jobs of our representatives. Their reluctance to tax corporations and the rich speaks to their own addiction to money, in the form of campaign contributions and / or promises of future jobs lobbying, or for the businesses whose interests they promote.
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
09:18 AM on 07/03/2011
AARP will come up with some nice talking point and throw them all on buses and get them to vote for the same people over and over again.
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1oldhippie
yes, WE can!
12:46 AM on 07/03/2011
I've paid into Medicare since its inception.
In fifty-eight years, I've had a hernia surgery(at a teaching college), and was diagnosed as a heart attack, when I broke two ribs.
In seven years, I might be eligible for Medicare, though I could never afford health care.
I assume, when I can see a doctor, at 65, there will be a dozen things 'wrong' with me, because, I had to wait so long.

Can get a free hoveround, courtesy of my fellow taxpayers, for good behavior?...oh boy!
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
09:22 AM on 07/03/2011
be glad you aren't 10 yrs younger -- you would have paid the whole time to receive absolutely nothing.
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sprkyreed
03:19 PM on 07/07/2011
Is a generational war in the offing? Are our politicians plotting it? Note that they are not giving up any of their benefits.
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Nonpartay
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11:40 PM on 07/02/2011
Remember the last Congressional election in NY26? The Democrat won because the Republican backed the Ryan budget which ended Medicare. People won't vote for people who want to cut either Social Security or Medicare. So, the best thing we can all do is to write our representatives and let them know how we feel about all this. We could also write to President Obama so he understands what it's like not to have a raise on this rather meager income. Remember that conservatives are much better at screaming at their representatives in writing and phone calls than liberals are. Liberals just assume our representatives will know better than to do something so terrible as to mess with these programs, but we should never assume any such thing. They have to hear from us in the same numbers they hear from the Birchers or they're going to get a strange and distorted picture of what their constituents want. So, it's easy, you can do it online, and I recommend it. If we can write on HuffPo about this stuff, we can also write to Washington. It couldn't hurt.
11:27 PM on 07/02/2011
The country is broke. We need to end the foreign wars, bring ALL of our troops back from overseas, use that money to protect the most vulerable that depend on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. Then, we need to rethink the whole idea of 'entitlements,' because if we don't the nation will no be able to meet the huge wave of retirees in the next decade who will push the country into insolvency. It is not a choice to cut entitlements, it is a mathematical certainty.
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Nonpartay
♫Nonpartisan, liberal, ex-conservative♫
11:34 PM on 07/02/2011
No, this country is not broke. Please don't pay attention to the fright-wing propaganda. Yes, we need to bring the troops back and lower the military spending, but we're still not broke. Social Security is fully funded for decades to come. And if we got people back working, got them jobs, then we would have income into the government and people paying into Social Security in greater numbers, plus the economy would be stimulated and even more people would be working. People are entitled to their entitlements. That's why they call them entitlements. We can always figure out ways to fund them that don't screw the public out of what they are entitled t have because they paid for it in good faith. I don't much like your version of "rethinking" entitlements. It doesn't work for me or anyone else my age I know.
11:57 PM on 07/02/2011
I agree with you 100%. If you look at the Bush tax cuts, and the fact that the Bushwhacker kept the wars "Off the books" for 8 years, you should know why we are broke. Lets make the rich pay their fair share, and stop this divide and conquer attitude that the rich republican right is pursuing against average people. In the last 30 years I have seen this country go down the tubes listening to this Republican crap. Oh and by the way, how much did you hear about deficits when George Bush was bankrupting the country. Cut defense and tax the rich. Keep your hands off our benifits. Thats my 2 cents.
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miketothad
trollslayer
11:47 PM on 07/02/2011
if you regurgitate everything you hear.
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johuyik
is heavily censored here.
10:45 PM on 07/02/2011
People, it's time for this country to grow up and start keeping it's promises.
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johuyik
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10:44 PM on 07/02/2011
We need to quit trowing grandma under the bus! The COI adjustments are already cutting into quality of life for the elderly. The cost of things you NEED, like food and gas, keeps going up. But that's NOT what they base the COI on.

What do they base it on ? I have no freakin idea but I bet it has something to do with monkey and a dart board that has targets on it ranging from 0 to 1 percent!

Hey, here's an idea, why not base it on the price increases of things you NEED TO LIVE?! "In 2011, the Consumer Price Index (CPI) for all food is projected to increase 3 to 4 percent."

http://www.ers.usda.gov/briefing/cpifoodandexpenditures/consumerpriceindex.htm
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wsmith9686
09:51 PM on 07/02/2011
good grief, we are borrowing money paying interest on it then giving it to a certain foreign gov't interest free. at the same time we putting in place plans to deny benefits to people who have paid into system for 20 -30 plus. there will be consequences for the nation having so many people unable to afford healthcare. they won't just disappear.