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John Boehner Rejects Obama's Grand Bargain On Debt Ceiling

John Boehner Debt Ceiling

First Posted: 07/09/11 09:45 PM ET Updated: 09/08/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- House Speaker John Boehner is rejecting President Obama's offer to make historic cuts to the federal government and the social safety net, saying in a statement Saturday evening that he can not agree to the tax increases Democrats insisted on as part of the bargain.

Boehner made his decision after speaking with the president by phone on Saturday afternoon, a day ahead of a major White House meeting with Democratic and GOP leadership, a Republican source familiar with situation said.

Obama had proposed to Republicans a "grand bargain" that accomplished a host of individual things that are unpopular on their own, but that just might pass as a huge package jammed through Congress with default looming. Obama offered to put Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid cuts on the table in exchange for a tax hike of roughly $100 billion per year over 10 years. Meanwhile, government spending would be cut by roughly three times that amount. It's no small irony that the party's dogmatic opposition to tax increases is costing the GOP its best opportunity to roll back social programs it has long targeted.

Republicans are now banking on a smaller deficit reduction deal that would still make major cuts, somewhere in the range of $2 trillion.

"Despite good-faith efforts to find common ground, the White House will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes," Boehner said in a statement. "I believe the best approach may be to focus on producing a smaller measure, based on the cuts identified in the Biden-led negotiations, that still meets our call for spending reforms and cuts greater than the amount of any debt limit increase."

While taxes are being put forward as a major cause of the collapse of the grand bargain, a Republican familiar with the discussions said that the two parties couldn't come to an agreement on cuts to entitlements. "The White House would not agree with the core elements of tax reform proposed by the Speaker," said the official. "A gulf also remains between the Speaker and the White House on the issue of medium and long-term structural reforms."

When word leaked out this past week that Obama was proposing cuts to entitlements, Democrats in Congress and outside advocates kicked their opposition into high gear, making it clear that no bargain would win their support if it contained any cuts to Social Security or Medicare beneficiaries. That opposition may have broken the back of the bargain.

UPDATE: White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer issued the following statement:

"The President believes that solving our fiscal problems is an economic imperative. But in order to do that, we cannot ask the middle-class and seniors to bear all the burden of higher costs and budget cuts. We need a balanced approach that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share as well, and we believe the American people agree.

"Both parties have made real progress thus far, and to back off now will not only fail to solve our fiscal challenge, it will confirm the cynicism people have about politics in Washington. The President believes that now is the moment to rise above that cynicism and show the American people that we can still do big things. And so tomorrow, he will make the case to congressional leaders that we must reject the politics of least resistance and take on this critical challenge."

Senator Harry Reid (D-Nev.) released the following statement late Saturday night:

I am disappointed that Republicans are unable to work with us to take a historic step forward that would have dramatically reduced our long-term deficit. We asked Republicans to consider a balanced approach that would have required shared sacrifice, but they would not. We still need to make sure we avert the economic catastrophe that would occur if we were to let America fail to pay its bills for the first time in our history, and I am confident that we will. Americans have a right to expect their leaders to rise above partisanship and do the right thing for our economy and the middle class.

Senator Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) released the following statement:

The President has called the Republicans' bluff by offering them exactly the type of grand bargain they said they wanted, only to have it rejected. Speaker Boehner had shown in the last week that, if it were up to him alone to decide, the nation would not be risking default to protect the wealthiest two percent of Americans. But in the end, neither the olive branch extended by the President nor the pragmatic streak shown by Speaker Boehner was enough to overcome the far right's obsession with defending tax breaks for millionaires and other special-interest tax loopholes. Some on the Republican side would like to confuse the issue by pretending it was tax hikes on the middle class that they were trying to prevent, but none were ever on the table. This decision to reject the President's offer means as much as a trillion-dollar gulf remains between the two sides on a debt limit deal, and Republicans should be put on notice that no matter how hard they try, their plan to end Medicare as we know it will never fill in that gap.
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WASHINGTON -- House Speaker John Boehner is rejecting President Obama's offer to make historic cuts to the federal government and the social safety net, saying in a statement Saturday evening that he ...
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11:23 AM on 08/08/2011
I always said Obama would of been a great VP on a Hilary Ticket so much for I told you so, But lets not give the country back to the rich and greedy who have already stolen from us most of our future lets not forget how we got here! Greed, War, No accountability, No regulation, and the corporate state. The republicans along with there tea party conspirators are doing everything they can too keep unemployment high and the economy slow pounding on every Obama weakness not assisting in rebuilding America but dividing it! They will do anything to make Obama look poorly heading into the 2012 elections its a strategy folks and we are the pawns total disregard for our well being. listen to yourselves pointing figures its what the rich and powerful want an ignorant and weak populous (Machiavelli) so basic! Why do you think they keep cutting education and healthcare! but 50" boob tubes are cheap Wake up America! No one wins but the rich!
09:11 PM on 07/23/2011
Has Speaker Boehner forgotten about the "uncertainty" as the big excuse why businesses haven't created any jobs? After keeping their Bush tax cuts they said the deficits still keeps this "uncertainty" alive like now everything has to be completely perfect before they will hire. They seem to suggest that the business of governing falls solely upon the president and his ability to get the democrats support. They assure that there's nothing to worry about and betting on the president caving in to their ideas. Some think the president has already caved in by even considering cuts to social security and Medicare. The amateurs seemed to have forgotten that the democrats in the senate will certainly notice that the republicans don't have any skin in the game. Democrats don't have any more to lose in this showdown than the republicans.and independents like myself will remember that the democrats were the party that cared about protecting our senior benefits while republicans wanted to completely gut everything we have worked for. They are running the house like it's some kind of cartel that blackmails and makes threats to working people and retired seniors. I hope we can get rid of these extortionists next year.
07:50 PM on 07/23/2011
The only specifics are the hundred billion in tax hikes and no specifics as to what exactly the cuts are. Pig in a poke again from BO. He does this every time and then complains when he can't get Congress to agree to it. Mr President you have to say what is being cut and how it's going to be cut. And is it a real cut of current spending or just a smoke and mirrors cut to proposed future spending. Come get real if you want to deal Everyone is wise to your act now. If a deal does not get done, it's Barack Obamas fault we all know it.
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R Davis
“The truth is rarely pure and never simple.”
03:19 AM on 07/19/2011
My mother-in-law was alive during the depression. She grew up in Southern Utah. She hated Republicans. She said that they cared about nothing more than making money. I was skeptical. I remember being impressed by Ronald Reagan's charm and compassion.

But Boehner is living up to her low expectations. He is spouting the same dogma Herbert Hoover talked about. Keep taxes low and business will work it out. It didn't work then and it won't work now. We have to have more money and work programs. We can't expect business men to invest when they are unsure of a good return. The Republicans will not consider changing tax breaks for companies doing really well in our economy. They are fixated on calling the rich Job Creators. Only they aren't creating jobs. We need to raise taxes and create jobs programs that build infrastructure. If we have to borrow money we might as well invest the money in our future.
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Goldshield
Retired NYPD Detective
12:52 PM on 07/15/2011
I'm tired of responding to individual posters here in La La land so I might as well just address all the liberals here who post hyperbole without facts.

As a retired detective I investigate facts and what you see or hear is not always the facts or truth.

The problem we have today is a financial crises caused solely by over spending, by, politicians, government and the agencies they create and control.

Spending is the problem, the politicians who enabled our country to overspend are the problem and the party that they belong to and the agencies that they created that contributed to this spending is the problem.

Both Parties are at fault, Republicans and Democrats, that is why we have a large group of so called independent voters today, because the majority of Americans are fed up with a;

"Government of the Party", "By the Party" and "For the Special Interest" We the people don't count except for ONE VOTE.

Politicians know this and take advantage of it, so I would suggest when you vote ask one question, "What did He/She do for Me/Mine" if the answer is nothing then vote them out. and NEVER pull the party lever, vote alternate party lines like liberal or conservative.

Take back the power from politician and return it to "We The People" where it belongs.
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R Davis
“The truth is rarely pure and never simple.”
03:23 AM on 07/19/2011
So....? Are you running for office? Are you saying that we need to take the power from the politicians by replacing them with the common man?

Either that or you are suggesting we replace our Republic with pure Democracy buy all of us voting on every issue? The greeks did it.

I don't see it working though.
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Goldshield
Retired NYPD Detective
06:57 AM on 07/19/2011
R No,I'm not running for office, I don't have the qualifications to be a politician, I consider myself a righteous person to be a politician you have to be selfish, I believe in strong moral principles a politician has no principles,I believe in the rule of law not discretionary law.

I believe in the constitution as created by our founders who fought and died for an idea as stated in their Declaration. Our founders fought a war to break from a totalitarian form of government, the early settlers came here escaping religious intolerance they weren't a perfect lot they each had many flaws, but out of this they were able to unite the states into a Republic form of government not a Democracy form of government.

Over the years our Republic has been subverted not for the good of the people (ie the individual) but for the good of the majority. This on the surface sounds like a noble idea but it isn't. The power now shifted to entities that can manipulate public opinion for political purposes. This paradigm shifted drastically changed our way of life and politics and politicians have long ago given up a Republic form of government as envisioned by Lincoln who fought a civil war to ensure all americans can enjoy the liberties as our founders envisioned.

No my friend we are not a perfect lot but we have to stand together and fight any politician, person, entity, that will take away our individual rights.
07:53 PM on 07/23/2011
You are exactly right, and all the libs here on Huff Post are blind to the obvious and loyal to a fault of BO!!
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Goldshield
Retired NYPD Detective
09:18 PM on 07/23/2011
Welcome friend another conservative in La La land. I post here to bring sanity to the insane reason to the unreasonable, and light to shine into the libel darkness, In other word to drive them nuts.
07:31 PM on 07/13/2011
Speaker Boehner, I'm God, who you profess to revere. You are causing great harm to my people. You offend my sight.
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Doug Clement
Vote for Chunk
03:28 PM on 07/13/2011
anyone else getting tired of this myth that the poor and middle class are "milking the system and refuse to work"?

It's only people, having a seething hatred for the middle class and poor, who keep saying this stuff. I believe the vast majority of people would love to be self reliant, but for whatever reason cant get ahead. These people have no idea what these people's situations are, all they have is contempt for their fellow man. These people are the worst aspect of American society, and they are all republicans
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timlamons
09:11 PM on 07/22/2011
ridiculous
The heart of America is the farm districts, the mid west. ALL red states. See what composes the blue states. NY, California, and the" union" states.
I keep reading garbage about the heart and soul of America is those blue states. LOL
08:01 PM on 07/23/2011
You are so wrong..I'm a middle class democrat, I don't like what the unions have done in politics and I don't demonize successful Americans. I admire successful Americans and I realize that the vast majority of them pay way way more than I do in taxes. (I know there are some that cheat and some that use loop holes) but most do not. Some corporations do not pay their fair share (GE for example), but that apparently is ok with this administration..go figure. What I'm tired of is the class warfare and I'm tired of government Nannyism that in fact promulgates social dependency. Don't feed em for life, teach em to fish and they can feed themselves for life.
08:48 PM on 07/12/2011
So, once again the middle class is supposed to take it while the rich get richer. I say hit them from both sides. Make their income tax and medicare tax both go up. It's embarrassing that a whole group of Americans, alone and as a group, are ungrateful, whining, sniveling, and a bunch of silver spooned tightwads. If we go high on the middle class average yearly wage at $70,000 and below average on your typical ponzi scheming, embezzling, "screw the average Joe" type of guy making $20 million, this is what we would see. How will "Average Joe" eating a $7 lunch compare to what "Joe Mega-Millionaire" could spend on his lunch. These lunches will both cost 0.01% of their incomes. Not 1%, but 1/100 of 1%. Mega Joe could order a $2,000 lunch without breaking a sweat. The tragedy in all of this is that Average Joe pays his taxes, mortgage, and expenses while supporting his family and is fortunate to have $2000 left at the end of the year. Mega Joe can spend more on 1 lunch than Average Joe can save in a year, and GUESS WHAT! Mega Joe won't pay his fair share of income tax, Medicare tax, and he probably isn't worried or cares if the U.S. can't pay its bills and defaults. I hope thinking about this hypothetical situation makes Boehner feel all warm and fuzzy. He should be ashamed of himself.
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ladywiccan
a wife, mother and grandmother
06:53 PM on 07/12/2011
everyone of us senoir citizens will be screwed the third of Aug. alot of us depend on those checks every month, if my husband and I don't get our checks. we'll lose our house and car. I cannot begin to tell how angry I am at this so-called leader and congress for playing the power game. I hope the dems are happy with the chang we're going through
Lahi
sensible is not a dirty word
07:08 PM on 07/12/2011
So you are blaming the democrats for 30 years of republicans chipping away at the rights and entitlements that seniors have paid into for so many years?
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Goldshield
Retired NYPD Detective
11:48 AM on 07/15/2011
Yes definitely, who else is to blame? Entitlements such as social security, medicare, are entitlement we the working people paid into and are entitled to them, however entitlements such as welfare food stamps rent sub-subsidies etc given to the poor with no end date or conditions is wrong. It is the culture of entitlements and the intent that is wrong. .
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Tom Sito
03:52 PM on 07/12/2011
I heard Boehner, McConnell and Cantor have short-trade investments against US Treasury bonds, so they WANT to crash the economy to make themselves even richer than they already are!
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Doyle Perry
Veteran, Conservative, Constitutionalist
05:30 PM on 07/12/2011
Yeah, that makes yet another good liberal lie. It would be far more likely that Tim Geitner would do that.
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Doyle Perry
Veteran, Conservative, Constitutionalist
03:37 PM on 07/12/2011
Every time a liberal tells us what a conservative thinks, we know it's a lie.
Every time a liberal tells us what a conservative wants, we know it's a lie.
Every time a liberal says, "History has proven", we know a lie will follow.
Every time a liberal says something is in the Constitution, we know it's a lie.
Every time a liberal mentions President Bush, we know a lie will follow.
Finally, every time a liberal mentions Obama's achievements, we know a lie will follow.
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Tom Sito
03:55 PM on 07/12/2011
Where do you get that stuff? Hannity? Rush?

Fact is CONSERVATIVES DESTROYED AMERICA! Conservatives have been the enemy of America since John Dickinson argued against the Declaration of Independence.

LIBERALS won our freedom, ended slavery, defeated Hitler, got us the 8 hour day and weekends off, and created the American global superpower.

NAME ME ANYTHING A CONSERVATIVE EVER DID OTHER THAN MAKE TO THEMSELVES RICH?
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Doyle Perry
Veteran, Conservative, Constitutionalist
05:37 PM on 07/12/2011
First, all your ridiculous claims are lies. Freedom is something everyone wanted from the British abuse. The revolutionaries were neither Conservatives nor Liberals. In fact, the concept of Conservative & Liberal didn't really exist then, because the Constitution didn't exist. Remember Conservatives believe in the Constitution. Liberals look at it as an impediment. If we had had today's liberals back then, they would have wanted to spend a century negotiating with the British.

America became a global superpower because of the Free Market, which liberals are trying their best to remove.

Slavery? Where do I start? A Republican President fought a war against the Southern Democrats to end slavery. Then we had to fight against the Democrats who created the KKK. Remember, Senator Byrd, the senior Democrat member of the Senate until he died a few years ago, was a Grand Kleagle (spelling?) of the KKK.
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timlamons
09:23 PM on 07/22/2011
Lincoln was a Republican ??
EOE was from Nixon.
Warren Buffet, Gates vote Democrat. Don't get much richer than that.
Immelt and GE, paid "0" in corporate federal income taxes with $5 billion income and he works for Obama.
Google gave over $800,000 to Obama and ran their money through Ireland so they wouldn't pay $3.1 Billion in federal taxes.
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Richard Corbit
Liberal ad nauseum
04:19 PM on 07/12/2011
Liberals created this Democracy. If it hadn't been for liberal thought, you would be having tea-time and singing" God Save the Queen". It's ok though, your right to dissent was bought and paid for by the blood of those liberals, so enjoy the freedoms they bought.
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Doyle Perry
Veteran, Conservative, Constitutionalist
05:38 PM on 07/12/2011
Just like Tom Sito, above, you liberals love to rewrite history.
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Goldshield
Retired NYPD Detective
12:22 PM on 07/15/2011
Wow your a historian, I too love to look at history also.

But just as the most liberals here on this board and in politics they post "Half Truths" which is a "Whole Lie".

You are correct in stating that "Liberals" crated Democracy" but what you failed to say or define was the definition of Liberal and Conservative in that time period. The liberal of the revolution held today's conservative values and ideas, whereas the conservatives of that period held the belief most democrats liberals today hold. Do your research don't post half truths!
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Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
03:26 PM on 07/12/2011
The President's offers are meaningless, as I'm sure you all know. When Harry Reid presents a bill that codifies these things, that is a concrete proposal. Reid is under NO obligation to follow through with the President's "proposals". BTW, what are the SPECIFIC proposals, beyond the vague "historic cuts"??
Semper fi
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smburwick
02:07 PM on 07/12/2011
Hoop: someone like you can't face facts and truths. Above your reading level.
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smburwick
01:59 PM on 07/12/2011
Guess what? The president just said her could not personally guarantee ss checks. A LIE. The debt ceiling is not about entitlements. Oh, and GE pays no taxes on millions of dollars of profit, and he is the jobs guy for Obama. Funny? Oh, NY paper said that creative accountants and LOBBYISTS have helped to significantly lower GE's taxes. Then Inmelt told chamber of commerce that they should hire and not yell at government. Since 2009 Inmelt has laid off or fired over 50,000 people. Sent jobs for light bulbs to CHINA!
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smburwick
01:55 PM on 07/12/2011
Peter777: it is the left manipulating the constitution. Section 4. Funny how this regime uses the law and interprets it for their own benefit. That was not the intention of the writers of the document.