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Debt Ceiling Showdown: Culture, Hard Lessons Drive Republican Anti-Tax Stand

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First Posted: 07/12/11 09:39 AM ET Updated: 09/11/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- On the surface, it would seem like an opportune time for Congress to include targeted tax hikes as part of a cost-cutting package to reduce the huge federal deficit.

Federal taxes, as a share of the overall economy, are at their lowest levels since 1950. A return to the higher income tax rates of the Clinton presidency - when many Americans prospered, and calls for tax cuts were fairly muted - would wipe out most of the deficit. And congressional Democrats appear ready to make deep spending cuts, sought by Republicans, in exchange for a smaller level of tax increases.

Despite all that, most congressional Republicans have vowed not to raise taxes of any kind, complicating efforts to reach a bipartisan deal to reduce spending and prevent the United States from defaulting on its loans.

The adamant stand puzzles many analysts. They say it's almost self-defeating, blocking Republicans from accepting deals in which Democrats have made the biggest concessions.

"Republicans don't know when to take `yes' for an answer," said Bob Bixby of the bipartisan Concord Coalition, a leading advocate of balanced budgets. "They could have very, very favorable terms" in the current negotiations, he said, with Democrats yielding far more in spending cuts than Republicans would have to yield in tax hikes.

The potency of the Republican Party's anti-tax stance seems to have caught even a top GOP lawmaker, House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, by surprise. He had to back away from suggestions that he might accept significant revenue hikes as part of a $4 trillion deficit-reduction plan.

"There was never any agreement to allow tax rates to go up in any discussions I've ever had with the White House," Boehner said Monday.

Key Republicans and others cite at least four key events that transformed the GOP from a party with a balanced approach to taxes and spending - Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan both raised taxes, though many Republicans now ignore those facts - to a party that puts a no-net-tax-increase pledge above almost everything else.

Read My Lips

George H.W. Bush's most memorable campaign phrase in 1988 was "Read my lips: No new taxes!"

But in 1990, Bush faced a rising deficit and congressional Democrats who, like today, insisted on revenue increases to partly offset spending cuts. Bush's advisers persuaded him to accept the deal. Hardcore conservatives howled, and Bush lost his 1992 re-election bid to Bill Clinton.

A dispirited GOP played a role, but Bush's slow response to a rapidly deteriorating economy probably played a bigger part. Nonetheless, Republican lore holds that Bush lost because he reneged on a vow never to raise taxes, and thousands of Republican officials since then have sworn not to make the same mistake.

2003

By that year, Bush's son had succeeded Clinton as president, and he solidified the GOP's image as a party that doesn't raise taxes, even when it launches costly new missions. In fact, President George W. Bush persuaded Congress to enact a second major tax cut, on top of the one from 2001. Also in 2003, the United States invaded Iraq and the GOP-led Congress expanded Medicare to cover prescription drugs, both of which were paid for with borrowed money.

"2003 was the most fiscally irresponsible year, possibly of all time," said David Walker, a former comptroller general who travels the country calling for deficit reduction.

Despite such charges, few Republican officials today say the lesson of 2003 is to raise revenues when programs expand and deficits soar.

A man named Grover

Grover Norquist, head of Americans for Tax Reform, has spent years cajoling, persuading and bullying GOP officials into signing a pledge never to support a net increase in taxes. While some Republicans grumble about Norquist's clout, he still wields enormous influence, partly by warning those who defy his pledge that they will pay a political price.

"My God, what has this country come to when one person has to give you permission to do what's best for the country?" Clinton said in a recent speech, referring to Norquist.

A more conservative GOP

In recent years, staunch conservatives have expanded their influence in the Republican electorate. "The Republican Party is dependent, to an extent unprecedented in recent political history, on a single ideological group," which is conservatives, writes political analyst Nate Silver.

The trend increases the threat of a party primary challenger to any GOP lawmaker who makes accommodations, such as tax increases, to reach an accord with Democrats.

Today's Republican Party is so taxaphobic that hardly anyone blinks when Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell says, day after day, that the nation has a spending problem, not a taxing problem.

Mathematically, of course, that's not necessarily true. A government can close a budget gap with tax hikes, spending cuts or some combination of the two. Liberal bloggers make this point more robustly than do most Democrats in Congress.

"No, McConnell, we have a revenue problem, not a spending problem," wrote a blogger named westcoastliberal at Rawstory.com. "If you and your GOP cohorts had not sought tax cuts as a remedy for every problem, we could be sitting pretty as a country right now."

The Republican Party's anti-tax stand is aided by a public with conflicting wishes. Voters generally oppose large deficits, higher taxes and cuts in programs that benefit them, a painless but impossible combination.

A March AP-GfK poll found that 62 percent of Americans say cutting government services is preferable to raising taxes in order to balance the budget. Less than one-third favored tax hikes.

But their tune changes when faced with specifics, such as cutting popular and expensive programs that threaten to drive the deficit much higher. A new Pew Research poll asked whether it is more important to reduce the budget deficit or to maintain current Medicare and Social Security benefits. "The public decisively supports maintaining the status quo," Pew found.

Walker says the growing deficit mirrors a changed society that's less willing to confront the consequences of spending more money than one makes. For 175 years, he said, the country refused to accept big deficits except in cases of deep recessions, declared wars or national emergencies. "It was part of our culture," he said.

"About three decades ago, our culture changed," Walker said. Americans amassed debts on their credit cards and home equity loans, and the government similarly lived on borrowed money. Given voters' and lawmakers' reluctance to make sacrifices, Walker said, Congress should enact a system of automatic spending cuts and temporary tax surcharges that would be triggered when the deficit hits designated levels.

Bixby, of the Concord Coalition, said deal-making in Congress "used to be a good thing." Now, he said, "people seem to be going out of their way to avoid a solution."

Tax hikes and program cuts are naturally unpopular, Bixby said, but how else can the deficit be tamed?

"Raise revenues and cut spending," he said. "It's not that difficult."



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freethinkergirl 05:23 PM on 07/12/2011
Just a reminder: Here is what happened after 12 years of a republican congress and 6 years of an entire republican government­ under Bush's policies of deregulati­on, lax tax law enforcement­ and a 15% tax rate on stock profits for wealthy people: .....Unemployme­nt doubled from 4.2% to 8.2% ....The budget went from a 236 billion surplus to a 1.2 TRILLION deficit (a 1.4 trillion  Read More...
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imperator prime
01:05 AM on 07/16/2011
Honestly, I don't know how it's possible that there's anyone left who can deny that the Republican party has turned *fanatical.* A fanatic is someone who already "knows" everything they'll ever need to know-- that taxes are categorically bad, for instance-- and is impermeable to facts, or logic, or new information. A fanatic can't be reasoned with, cares nothing for anything but their dogma, and will never compromise. And these people are frikkin' fanatics.
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R Davis
“The truth is rarely pure and never simple.”
09:13 AM on 07/15/2011
Grover Norquist is the driving force behind the GOP's efforts for redistribution of wealth. Draining the Middle Class of resources so the top 20% can live the high life off everyone else's labors.
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cornedog
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02:55 AM on 07/15/2011
As a Republican, I'm in favor of raising taxes on the rich somewhat ONLY because the dems will never do the right thing and put in a progressive flat tax (without exemptions or deductions). The reason they won't is because that would cause their low income supporters to pay SOME taxes and no longer freeload on the government. In 013 after a Rep is in the White House, we can do what the democrat deficit commission recommended and flat tax. Until then, we need the revenue.

Now, time to do the cuts also,,,really big cuts. In my work, I see families who are perfectly capable of work getting their entire subsistence (apartment, utilities, food, medical, etc.) handed to them by the gov. Something's wrong with that picture and it has to stop.

When one looks at Obama's budget for 2011 that's available for reading all over the net, cuts in at least 15 departments cry out for repair and downsizing. It's time to get 'er done.

As to the Republicans and their resistance to taxes, they are not off-base when they say that dems would not use the extra revenues to pay down the debt but just spend every dime on more bailouts, handouts, bribes to unions, and other causes the public rejected on 11/2/2010. We've had enough. In the end, I hope my caucas, the TP caucas, gives a little and we get the deal done. I don't like cutting it this close.
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collettethehedgehog
My micro-bio is So running on empty
04:02 AM on 07/15/2011
If the public rejected unions, SS and Medicare you so dishonestly characterize. Then why are there so many recall votes? The public, as polls show, have realized "We wuz robbed." Your caucus, is rightly spelled, the TP caca's.
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cornedog
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07:41 PM on 07/15/2011
Did I say SS and Medicare were rejected? Just a bit dishonest yourself, huh? What polls say "we wuz robbed'? Name one major poll that says that! I'll spellcheck if you provide some facts.
12:24 AM on 07/15/2011
I don't recognize anyone on this thread either...........

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Angie Tyne 1
I want my disagree button!!
02:08 PM on 07/14/2011
I'm sick of the stupid memes surroundin­g supply-sid­e. Here're facts if anyone's interested­:

- Taxes're even lower w/Obama. We should be in a boom according to trickle down, right?
http://ntu­.org/tax-b­asics/hist­ory-of-fed­eral-indiv­idual-1.ht­ml

- US/DOL
http://dat­a.bls.gov/­pdq/Survey­OutputServ­let
Unemployme­nt spiked even higher in Reagan's first two years. It was cruising over 10% for almost a year. He wasn't dealing w/a massive market crash.

Reagan actually raised taxes on the rich! No one likes to talk about that part. :P
http://mon­ey.cnn.com­/2010/09/0­8/news/eco­nomy/reaga­n_years_ta­xes/index.­htm
- House JEC report, 1996; Republican majority:
http://www­.house.gov­/jec/fisca­l/tx-grwth­/reagtxct/­reagtxct.h­tm
"The share of the income tax burden borne by the top 10 percent of taxpayers increased from 48.0 percent in 1981 to 57.2 percent in 1988. Meanwhile, the share of income taxes paid by the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers dropped from 7.5 percent in 1981 to 5.7 percent in 1988.

A middle class of taxpayers can be defined as those between the 50th...95t­h percentile (those earning between $18,367 and $72,735 in 1988). Between 1981..1988­, the income tax burden of the middle class declined from 57.5 percent in 1981 to 48.7 percent in 1988. This 8.8 percentage point decline in middle class tax burden is entirely accounted for by the increase borne by the top one percent."
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collettethehedgehog
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04:04 AM on 07/15/2011
Excellent work. You seem to have the power to dispell trolls with your fact-checking.
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Angie Tyne 1
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01:06 PM on 07/15/2011
I kinda like the trolls. They challenge me to find new info. I started to dig into this and just found a bunch of articles that referenced each other or just more articles.

I was pretty excited when I found a GOP report that stated the facts unequivocally.

Feel free to spread the truth where ever applicable. :D
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R Davis
“The truth is rarely pure and never simple.”
09:15 AM on 07/15/2011
Thank you for posting this.
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Angie Tyne 1
I want my disagree button!!
01:05 PM on 07/15/2011
Please feel free to repost where ever applicable. :)
01:50 PM on 07/14/2011
you say its not that difficult - cut spending AND increase revenue - well that's where everyone disagrees - i don't see ANYone mentioning the possibility of lawmaker/politicians taking a pay CUT (instead of increasing their pay in secret nite-time votes) -to get a bit more to where the Average Citizen is at! We ALL have to live within our means - they can afford a pay cut! (since WE've all had to deal with inflation as a cut) Put some extravagant pensions on the chopping block as well (let them live as most of us do)! See who's willing to lead with these ideas and we'll see some real leaders! That's just a jumpstart to begin with...
02:07 PM on 07/14/2011
Well if you believe we all can have a better life (Retirement, pensions, good wages, and the lot.) if we put this country on track. You may not want to doom and gloom the idea that If I can deal with doing bad than those rich policy makers should suffer too. They the politicians aren't getting wealthy from the public service they do. What would you pay them? 50 dollars. a month. Both parties. including your favorit? How much they make has nothing to do with the debt crisis. but I do see your point.
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collettethehedgehog
My micro-bio is So running on empty
04:07 AM on 07/15/2011
Take away their health care for life. No gifts from lobbyists inc trips, meals, parties etc. Give each budgets they have to live on. No C Street freebies off campus.
09:48 AM on 07/15/2011
That's a great point my friend. How they take advanage of the office and allow lobbiest to push the corporation (insurance lobbie) agenda. Record profits for healt insurance companies could become a non profit and cut the cost of health care three fold. That leads to the question. Why do people want to be politicans. I would bet even if they weren't paid at all, they would still spend millions running for office. Only thing is who's millions would they be spending. Big corporation. Thats my opinion anyway.Thanks for the responce. I respect your opinion too.
01:16 PM on 07/14/2011
Both parties agree that the U.S has to raise the debt ceiling. The longer we wait to do so the debt crisis gets worse. Ideas to put the economy on a path to solid growth are looming while parties haggle their ideologies and political posturing. Reality is both republicans and Dem's are right and that's why we can't get past the politics. Obama has came to the center and the house leader took advantage by moving the line more right. Now Obama's pickle is will he look weak even if he roles over on his principles. We are all hoping he does the right thing for the country. Taxes and Spending cuts.
12:35 AM on 07/14/2011
They sure do hate everything about America when they're not running the show don't they? When they were in charge of the same situation it was all John Wayne, Bald Eagles and fireworks.
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MCTSilverlakeCA
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06:17 PM on 07/13/2011
If I read this article correctly - the Republican's penchants for throwing America into Wars every time one of them is in Office - is the reason we can't balance the budget - because said Wars are always "funded" with negative capital - in other words- we have no money, but lets pledge future money by starting wars so we can focus the Public Eye on them and not on our inept Presidential Governing of the nation.
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James L Walker
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06:02 PM on 07/13/2011
They can't wait until Aug. 1st to make a deal. The markets will have tanked by then. Our leaders are not financial analysts or specialists and they do not know the kind of fire they are playing with.
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lw1
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04:52 PM on 07/13/2011
"Grover Norquist and others could not have been more explicit about the conservati­ve position on debt: make it is big as you can when you're in office, with tax giveaways to all your friends, and you'll tie the hands of Democrats when they take control, at which point you start the shrill screaming again about fiscal responsibi­lity and "entitleme­nt" spending. (Meeting obligation­s to our seniors, educating our children, and taking care of people who need help are "entitleme­nts," whereas cutting taxes to those who least need it somehow doesn't fall under that rubric)"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/three-ways-the-democrats-_b_884872.html
04:27 PM on 07/13/2011
Closing tax loopholes and eliminating most subsidies would certainly raise revenues without a tax hike. Until the consumers create more demand, jobs will not be created.
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lw1
Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!
04:58 PM on 07/13/2011
Except that average consumers are losing the overall amount they have to spend to the increased wealth flowing to the wealthy. Unfortunately the wealthy spend and invest a much smaller share of their income in the USA.
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sus2222
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04:26 PM on 07/13/2011
Republicans continue to MAKE NO SENSE.
airmikee99
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06:49 PM on 07/13/2011
Hey now, that's a bit harsh.

There are crackheads that can make perfect sense of what Republicans say.
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mjc
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04:18 PM on 07/13/2011
As someone who has listened to Republican intransigence for all of the almost sixty years I have been able to vote, think the part about hard lessons which drive Republicans anti-tax stance is baloney. They have always preferred to keep their wealthy and more powerful constituents free from the burdens of taxation, long before the Bushes, long before even Saint Ronnie. The bunch in Congress right now may be a bit more stubborn...and less interested in what happens to our country if only the rich can survive here but it's a matter of degree of blockheadedness rather than any lessons or reality that Republicans have experienced. Their culture, yes.
RTIII
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03:23 PM on 07/13/2011
"Culture, Hard Lessons Drive Republican Anti-Tax Stand"

Rediculous. The Republicans are anti-tax as a part of their pro-rich stand - it has _nothing_ to do with culture or any lessons, hard or easy.