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Jonah Edelman On Illinois School Reform: Stand For Children Head Talks Political Maneuvers

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First Posted: 07/12/11 07:12 PM ET Updated: 09/11/11 06:12 AM ET

Jonah Edelman, the founder of the influential and cash-heavy education advocacy group Stand for Children, has issued an apology after a video surfaced in which he gives a cold-blooded analysis of his organization's political maneuverings.

In the apology, he described various moments in his talk as "blunt," "presumptuous," and "arrogant." But pro-union educators and activists view the talk as a disturbingly honest look at the role of money and politics in the passage of Illinois's recent sweeping education reform bill.

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Edelman's talk, which he gave at the Aspen Ideas Festival on Tuesday, June 28, is a narrative of how Stand for Children systematically chose its political allies in the Illinois, invested over $600,000 in nine state legislative races, raised another $3 million, and exacted concession after concession from the state's teachers unions.

At first, he explains, Stand saw an opportunity when the Illinois Federation of Teachers turned against all-powerful House Speaker Michael Madigan over Madigan's passage of pension reforms in 2010. The IFT had been a reliable supporter of the Speaker and many of his supporters in the legislature, but it withheld all its endorsements that year from those who had voted for the pension bill.

Guessing presciently that Madigan and his House Democrats wouldn't be caught up in the national Republican wave of that year, Edelman decided to position Stand for Children on his side, hoping to curry favor post-election.

In one of many surprisingly forthright moments, Edelman describes how Stand chose who to back in the midterms:

I'm being quite blunt here. The individual candidates were essentially a vehicle to execute a political objective, which was to tilt toward Madigan. The press never picked up on it. We endorsed nine individuals - and six of them were Democrats, three Republicans - and tilted our money toward Madigan, who was expecting ... that all our money was going to go to Republicans. That was really an show of - indication to him that we could be a new partner to take the place of the Illinois Federation of Teachers. That was the point. Luckily, it never got covered that way. That wouldn't have worked well in Illinois - Madigan is not particularly well liked. And it did work.

In the lame-duck session following the election, Stand for Children and Advance Illinois pushed hard to pass a measure restricting collective bargaining rights for teachers' unions. They failed to do so, but in his estimation, they had made their point. By coming close to such overwhelming change, they had the unions coming to the table looking to find a middle ground.

"If you show them the capability to actually enact collective bargaining reforms, they're logically going to give on everything short of that to pull back the barricades," Edelman says in the talk. And so, it appears, they did: unions conceded on new rules about layoffs, teacher effectiveness and other issues.

Then, he revisits collective bargaining, in one of the less flattering portions of the talk. He describes negotiating with Chicago Teachers Union president Karen Lewis, whom he calls "a diehard militant," and essentially describes outsmarting her and the CTU.

Stand for Children and its allies proposed a requirement that 75 percent of union members participate in any strike vote. Based on their research, no vote had ever seen more than 50 percent of teachers participate, so the threshold was high enough in Edelman's mind that it was essentially a prohibition on strikes. CTU "took that deal, misunderstanding, probably not knowing the statistics about voting history," he said. "And we insisted that we decide all the fine print about the process - she was happy to let us do that."

The video of the talk was originally posted on Fred Klonsky's local education blog, after which it made waves across the education community. Klonsky, himself a teacher in Chicago, told The Huffington Post that his blog has seen skyrocketing traffic since its posting.

"Most people responded to the tone" of Edelman's response, he said in a phone interview. But "if you cut through all the self-important nonsense," the people who the video really embarrasses are the unions. "Our union's willingness to bargain away our tenure rights, our seniority, rights, our right to strike, these were all the things I was concerned about," Klonsky said.

The Schools Matter blog had a similar take pm the video:

In this Machiavellian masterpiece, we see Jonah Edelman of Stand for Children infamy .. describe in great detail how great wads of hedge-fund and other corporate cash came to bear on the last legislative election in Illinois, ... how teacher unions were lured to the table and how they were totally manhandled by the best lawyers and negotiators that money can buy, how union leaders became complicit, scared, weak, groveling.

In response to the growing criticism of his talk, Edelman sent an apology to Klonsky and other bloggers who posted the video. He chides himself for a tone he describes as "arrogant," and says that he portrayed the debate more as an "us-vs.-them" competition rather than the collaboration that he now insists it actually was.

Meanwhile, some of the wronged parties from the video are saying their piece. In a post on Catalyst Chicago, an education blog, a CTU spokeswoman argues that the union will in fact be able to meet the 75 percent threshold required to strike. "We would not have agreed with this if we did not believe that we had a viable option in collective bargaining," she said.

And in an email message reprinted on Klonsky's blog, incoming president of the Illinois Education Association Cinda Klickna said that "most" of the video "is an absolute lie."

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Jonah Edelman, the founder of the influential and cash-heavy education advocacy group Stand for Children, has issued an apology after a video surfaced in which he gives a cold-blooded analysis of his ...
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10:10 AM on 07/14/2011
Gotta say what Edelman says in the video rings true--GOP/business types seem to stake out positions based on better bargaining acumen than Dems. Wish it weren't so, but . . . For instance, in the current debt ceiling talks, it's a given that we will raise the ceiling--too many business types talking about the costs of doing otherwise and it'd be political suicide to GOP to stop natl parks, etc in peak summer months and to stop pay to soldiers/sailors/marines/airmen, and so on BUT the GOP is getting a LOT of PR as the party that's cutting the budget and they'll probably gut a lot of the health care reforms, entitlement programs, and so on. They may look like they're reluctantly compromising, but they're probably high-fiving each other behind closed doors. Someone's gotta call them on it. Hope this video helps folks see the way things really happen in politics.
10:13 PM on 07/13/2011
For every TeaPub who cannot resist going public with his or her smug "we're smarter than they are" speech, there are 50 others who operate in exactly the same way and keep it behind closed doors.
01:01 PM on 07/13/2011
Will all the unions get Edelman ned? Rhee ed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2koz78pj7Y
11:56 AM on 07/13/2011
Education reform is just a con game. These people aren't "in education" - they critique and manipulate from the outside. They have no idea how to teach and are only interested in making money. They are mere lobbyists who found something close to the hearts of many people. If these "reformers" have any credibility, then maybe they should put all the money they receive to operate toward education and not themselves.
08:58 AM on 07/13/2011
This so-called apology is just to cover his rear because his plan was outed. Don't trust him, ever. For those that think they are all about quality of education, that is also a farce. Why would millionaires and corporations be so interested in education? Because public education is a non-profit entity and they see $$$ in privatization. Privatizing schools would turn education into a for-profit entity that will focus on shareholders and extravagant corporate salaries. The children will be at the bottom of the heap, getting herded into large classrooms with minimal education, and low-paid teachers. The GOP doesn't want an educated populace, they want dumbed-down submissive people that will keep believing their bs so they can achieve their goal of a "permanent one-party majority", aka dictatorship.
04:27 AM on 07/13/2011
The union-busting billionaires behind phony 'grass roots' groups like Stand for Children and Advance Illinois have emerged from the shadows... Complete transcript of the remarks of Ross Wiener, James Crown and Jonah Edelman at the Aspen Institute. Anyone can now read word for word what thses guys said for teh record and how they worked to target the Chicago Teachers Union. It need to be made clear that this legislation has nothing in it that improves teaching or instruction, it is all about union busting.
http://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=2427§ion=Article
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01:20 AM on 07/13/2011
I just cannot get over that this is Marian Wright Edelman's son! She has always been such a strong advocate for ending poverty and attacking teacher unions does NOTHING to alleviate poverty.

Teachers cannot do anything about a child's family income or what happens in a child's family, and there is ongoing trauma and drama in many families. Why is it up to only the teachers to overcome every obstacle of poverty in education? Where are the community leaders? Where are the business people? Where are the politicians? Dumping all the responsibility on schools--while gutting budgets and demoralizing teachers--will not solve the problems!!!!
09:48 AM on 07/13/2011
It is truly a shame. From a poverty fighter mother to a privateer son. Maybe she spoiled him too much.
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02:17 PM on 09/05/2011
Perhaps there is less to Marian Wright Edelman than we think.
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01:12 AM on 07/13/2011
Correction to the beginning of my post: Should have been "The only THING . . .", not think. Sorry about that.
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01:04 AM on 07/13/2011
The only *thing*, not think. Sorry.
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01:03 AM on 07/13/2011
The only think Edelman is sorry about is that his words were made public. His apology is insincere. "Know your enemy" applies here and unions better take notice, remember what happened, and learn from it.

I admire Marian Wright Edelman very much and was shocked to find out this is her son.
10:25 PM on 07/12/2011
Stand for Children seems to have taken its name from the GWB era of government when all bills' names were constructed in a way to be indicative of the OPPOSITE of what they actually did!
09:07 PM on 07/12/2011
I don't get it. I'm totally for implementing best practices, but I feel this is more about destroying unions than improving education. At first, I supported the ideas in SB 7, but I've become skeptical. The problems in public education have more to do with poverty than anything else, but instead of helping families, these reformers are targeting teachers. I realize there are some bad eggs out there, but these measures are extreme. Why are the incredibly wealthy so concerned about public schools all of a sudden? Looking at the numbers, it appears charters aren't doing better than neighborhood schools, and from what I've heard, have generally high turnover rates for teachers. Can't help but feel that these reformers are making another dent in the middle class by making it the new normal to do much more for much less.
09:14 PM on 07/12/2011
Follow the money...
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11:42 PM on 07/12/2011
And positioning the public to support full blown vouchers.
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08:16 PM on 07/12/2011
This is truly disturbing. When deals are struck with unions both sides put forth items for negotiation and a deal is hammered out, whether this is between government and government worker's unions or in the private sector.

To have someone acting as a puppetmaster with no actual seat at the table and no requirements for transparency, manipulating the outcome is a huge disservice to those who voted in the government official to act on behalf of the constituency as well as the union members who come to the table in good faith.
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11:42 PM on 07/12/2011
Welcome to America, you now know exactly where you live.
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06:54 PM on 07/12/2011
"he described various moments in his talk as "blunt," "presumptuous," and "arrogant." But pro-union educators and activists view the talk as a disturbingly honest look at the role of money and politics"

In other words, the union does not like the competition.
01:15 PM on 07/13/2011
This is true: here is the competition:

Bill gates
The crown family from Chcago
The Koch brothers (AKA SwiftBoaters)
Bloomberg
Eli Broad foundation

These are the force$ the union$ have to stand up to.
Fair competition?

(Melinda Gates too? I am not sure she'd "stand For Children" in this manner)