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Senate Dems Eying End-Of-Week Consideration On Plan B Debt Ceiling Bill

Reidboehner

First Posted: 07/18/11 11:20 AM ET Updated: 09/17/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Democratic Senate leadership is preparing to introduce a compromise debt ceiling bill to the floor as early as the end of this week, in hopes of getting something through the legislative process before the Aug. 2 deadline to raise the country's debt limit or risk default.

The plan, according to a top Senate Democratic aide, is to wait until both chambers vote on the cap, cut and balance measure, which would slash federal spending, tie it to a percentage of Gross Domestic Product, and secure a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution. That measure, preferred by conservatives, is expected to pass the House of Representatives before likely falling short of the votes needed in the Senate. Once that process is done, the aide said, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) will start consideration on the debt-ceiling proposal hatched by Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), which would give the president the authority to raise the debt ceiling while vetoing corresponding, commensurate spending cuts.

"Plan B could be ready to move on the floor by the middle of this week," the aide said. "But that action on it probably will not occur till after the Balanced Budget vote."

Such a legislative timeframe is considered optimal, though President Obama has stressed that he wants a bill introduced and agreed upon by July 22. A GOP leadership aide cautioned, "Wednesday and Thursday would be awfully early to go to this last resort."

"At this point it is just unclear," the GOP aide added, "none of that is locked in stone."

Also unclear is what the final Plan B might include. Negotiators are still contemplating whether to attach $1.5 trillion or so in agreed-upon discretionary and mandatory spending cuts to the initial Senate-considered package, or to let House Republicans add those cuts when the legislation gets to them. Letting cuts fall to the House could provide members with the sense that they've pulled the bill in their own direction.

There are also questions over what a final compromise might include, specifically whether a deficit-reduction commission would result from its passage.

Such a commission, currently, is set to have twelve members. It would be tasked with reporting out a set of recommendations by the end of 2011. Provided that a majority of its members agreed on the final product, its suggestions would then be fast-tracked (meaning no amendments allowed) to a vote in each chamber of Congress. Whether members of the commission would be able to suggest revenue and tax changes as a deficit-reduction vehicle, however, has not yet been determined.

Further clouding speculation about a final "Plan B" are the continuing talks between House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and President Obama about a potential grand bargain on the debt ceiling -- a package that would include roughly $3 trillion in cuts and entitlement reforms, in addition to an increase of $800 billion in revenues. The White House has stressed that this is the administration's preferred option. Boehner backed away from it more than a week ago, but reports surfaced this weekend that those discussions weren't entirely closed off.

"That is still happening," the Senate Democratic aide said of the grand bargain talks. "The House is in the loop. They are aware of it. They are being apprised at all times of what we are working on. But they have yet to commit to [Plan B] or any other plan that could actually pass. They are continuing to focus on the cut cap and balance for now."

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WASHINGTON -- Democratic Senate leadership is preparing to introduce a compromise debt ceiling bill to the floor as early as the end of this week, in hopes of getting something through the legislative...
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Sundalecat
We love Obama!, by an angry White Man
06:56 PM on 07/27/2011
Hey all, contact Obama on the White House site and let him know to use the constitution on this issue. If enough of us do it he will I just bet.
montanason
Justice for Annie Mae Aquash and Ray Robinson Jr.
03:36 PM on 07/19/2011
Maybe it's just me but in reading the 14th numerous times I fail to
see any authorization that allows a president to arbitrarily raise the
debt ceiling-perhaps someone could explain this to me from an
unbiased non party centered viewpoint.
"Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate
legislation, the provisions of this article."
Admittedly as we see the "power" by Congress isn't working out to
well at the moment-but then neither the Senate of the Prez seem to
worthy of praise either.
If the argument is "authorized by law" then what law are we talking about,
existing legislation or the "power" of the Congress? Or the 14th Amendment
which does not specifically say the President is authorized to do?
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Sundalecat
We love Obama!, by an angry White Man
06:55 PM on 07/27/2011
"The Validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection of or rebellion, shall not be questioned".

How about that .
07:56 AM on 07/19/2011
Best to go with Plan C which is to let Republicans stew in their own juice.
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lulubelle1956
07:03 AM on 07/19/2011
I'm with Clinton and several others; Obama should use the 14th amendment to lift the debt ceiling for debt already incurred by the GOP/TP over 8 years and in the 2 years stimulus was needed.
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Ramon Noches
Retired Air Force
12:12 AM on 07/19/2011
The Republican Party stance on budget priorities harkens back to events in 1929 that precipitated the nation’s ten-year depression. Strange that they keep hawking no tax cuts for the wealthy but have said nothing about facts to back up their claim. This is not new as often they make invalidated statements that many of their TP folks blindly believe. Such displays of ignorance laced with a degree of prejudice towards a President who happens to be black has to be alarming to the world community. Perry as a potential presidential candidate must be frightening to many of our allies. Having a president who mentioned succession has to have a questionable attitude towards minorities. Today I saw several bumper stickers here in Austin saying "SUCEDE (sic).” These signs most probably represent fallout from Rick Perry's comments that included a "tongue in Cheek" comment about succession. I never write or say “Governor Perry” as he always mentions President Obama as “Obama or Barrack Obama.” I figure it is good policy to fallow my governor’s lead in addressing him with the same level of disrespect.
02:42 AM on 07/19/2011
Wow, I live in Austin and I have never seen these bumper stickers. I admit it would not surprise me because Austin is the blue oasis in the red river of Texas. However, Perry mentioned secession as he also stated he was opposed to it and not advocating for it. Politifact has reviewed this repeatedly and the result is the same; Perry does not support or advocate secession. I admit to calling Governor Perry simply by his last name (see above) from time to time and I do the same with President Obama (Just as I did with Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, and before that I wasn't voting).
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Ramon Noches
Retired Air Force
03:52 PM on 07/21/2011
I agree he backtracked on his statement about succession, but not immediately. He stood there enjoying the glowing cheers of his audience.
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Hufrelief
All of you matter
10:59 PM on 07/18/2011
Here we are with a medicare plan created, but no means to pay for it, and we want to keep it because it is a good program. I agree with those who like the program, but we do need to find ways of paying for the program as opposed to citing the program first. At the end of the day we must find ways of paying and extending Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. This cannot be put on the backs of these programs. We have to go on the attack for revenue generating systems outside of Congress. We will do it.
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JoanMeijer
Author of Relentless: The Search For Typhoid Mary
07:02 PM on 07/18/2011
I don't want to see anything but the Constitutional Option as an answer to the Republicans.
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Brian Gilmer
Good citizens make good citizens.
12:45 PM on 07/20/2011
That will cause the same confusion as a default. It will also result in prosecutions since no matter what the Treasury does it will be a violation of a law. So if the Treasury borrows money under the 14th Amendment authority and it violates the debt limit then the outlays made with the borrowed money will be in question until the courts weight in on the Constitutionality of the action by the Treasury. The result is the same someone will not get paid.
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chefacree
07:02 PM on 07/18/2011
Anything without a tax hike or closing loop holes is a sell out.
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myrtle1909
I am an artist and a free lance writer
06:37 PM on 07/18/2011
If members of Congress want to sign a pledge they should pledge in writing to work for the American people and not Grover Norquest.
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Hufrelief
All of you matter
06:32 PM on 07/18/2011
Yet, they will go absolutely all the way to the extreme because of the color of this President. They want to control his every move just to remind him of his place. It is a sad day in American politics, not surprised, but still a sad day. Nothing even comes close to explaining this my way or the highway attitude
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art69z
Government has become too big for its britches
07:56 PM on 07/18/2011
Hutrelief...how dare you...Pres. Obama was elected by Americans...all Americans, black, white, pink, and rainbow.. and now you want to pull the race card when the going get tough and your President and democratic party isn't getting its way...you and your kind is what wrong with this nation...always playing the race card when you can't get your way...you and your kind are pathetic...it must really suck to be you...
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balthus
01:13 AM on 07/19/2011
Sounds like Hutrelief touched a nerve.
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WakeUp2021
57% Approval and Growing!
03:49 AM on 07/19/2011
R.acist.
02:46 AM on 07/19/2011
Bah, it has nothing to do with race. Even as the President extends a hand, he also has the my way or the highway attitude in that the Republicans MUST support a tax increase. It's a game of Chicken, with BOTH participants involved. Obviously, the President's veto power is much more powerful than the House of Representatives power.
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myrtle1909
I am an artist and a free lance writer
06:29 PM on 07/18/2011
Obama should just raise the debt Ceiling with no strings attached and then go to the people and let them know how the tparty tried to hold up everything and let the country default on it's bills, then let the people vote these people out of office in 2012 and then the Congress can get a just and fair bill.
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Brian Gilmer
Good citizens make good citizens.
12:48 PM on 07/20/2011
President Obama can't raise the debt ceiling, that takes an act of Congress. The President can authorize the Treasury to borrow money over the cap but that will like end up in the US Supreme Court before it got to the US Treasury.
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jmdziuban1
Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
06:10 PM on 07/18/2011
How about Congress simply passes a raising of the debt ceiling, as every member of Congress knows needs to happen -apart from some T-party yahoos. That is the way it has always been done, until the GOP decided to tie it to a debt reduction package this time around. They had always been separate legislation.
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Brian Gilmer
Good citizens make good citizens.
12:49 PM on 07/20/2011
The house voted on a "clean" debt ceiling bill and voted it down.
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drichfatcat
You just don't understand
05:49 PM on 07/18/2011
Obama wants to raise taxes so he can continue to spread the wealth. All those Obama voters have been asking about his stash and all he can say is the GOP stole it.
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Awake-and-Sing
named after a great play written by Clifford Odets
06:22 PM on 07/18/2011
Taxes are your financial obligation back to the society that enabled your prosperity.

Time for you to start paying your fair share again.
02:48 AM on 07/19/2011
But if I am not prosperous, but merely surviving? And that because I don't choose to spend my money in a IMHO silly way like having multiple TVs, computers, cars, etc.?
montanason
Justice for Annie Mae Aquash and Ray Robinson Jr.
03:43 PM on 07/19/2011
As in every financial obligation there should exist value for the
dollar paid-like politicians who have a clue and the lack of long
term involvement in follies like Afghanistan etal-neither of which
I think are an "obligation" to support.
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Azsin
i need a wife
10:41 PM on 07/18/2011
he wants them back to clinton era
when we had a surplus
05:46 PM on 07/18/2011
Do you guys remember when Democrat not long ago were for balancing the budget? It took a few marvelous trick by the left wing in Red state during the primary to take over the party and start their entlitlements spending. Nowdays if you mention an amendments to balance the budget to a democrats they call you anti-poor.
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jrmarsh
05:50 PM on 07/18/2011
No, it's when you come into office, give out fat tax cuts to your rich buddies, cry about the newly created deficit then try to take it our of working people and the poor's hides...
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Edward Holt
07:38 PM on 07/18/2011
Its not that we are against a balanced budget, We just don't want to do it on the backs of the poor and middle class. We need to get rid of the misguided tax cuts that bush put in place and also cut spending and we will be able to balance the budget.
02:51 AM on 07/19/2011
Ok, whose back do you want to put it on? If they pass a bill that says "Hey, Mr. Buffett, your repeated comments about how you should be paying more taxes... well, instead of your privately funded non-profit charity, the US govt will be taking that money"... I support that!
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Hufrelief
All of you matter
05:36 PM on 07/18/2011
Grover (Napoleon) Norquist was just exposed like he should be exposed on a daily basis from Chris Mathews on Hardball. When is the rest of the media going to get on Little Napoleon’s case?
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drichfatcat
You just don't understand
05:51 PM on 07/18/2011
You mean exposed by Chris "Froth Mouth" Matthews?
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Rodger leMonde
I call them as I see them.
06:31 PM on 07/18/2011
Sedition is one of the costs of free speech. While we do not prosecute it it is the duty of all loyal Americans to recognize and repudiate it.