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Pennsylvania Debates Whether To Hunt On The Sabbath

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First Posted: 07/19/11 07:38 PM ET Updated: 09/18/11 06:12 AM ET

By Donald Gilliland
Religion News Service

HARRISBURG, Pa. (RNS) Two of the most influential forces in conservative lobbying are poised to go head-to-head this fall over an issue that some Pennsylvania lawmakers dread might be one of the most difficult of the session.

It's the Pennsylvania Farm Bureau vs. the National Rifle Association in a title bout over the legalization of hunting on Sunday.

The Farm Bureau is the defending champion of one of the last remaining blue laws that forbids hunting of most game species on the Lord's designated day of rest.

Apart from the religious justification for the ban, Farm Bureau members also claim they want one day free of hunters traipsing across their property.

Hikers and bird-watchers have joined the farmers, saying they want one day a week of bullet-free passage through Pennsylvania. And some sportsmen also support the ban, saying the wild critters they stalk need a day of rest as well.

Challenging that position is the Sunday Hunting Coalition, led by the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation with help from a diverse collection of national outdoor interests.

The economic benefit of extending hunting to Sunday would be significant, they say.

In an age when most hunters are limited to the weekend to pursue their sport, the change would effectively double the value -- not the price -- of their license.

Advocates say the change might also prompt hunters who have quit for lack of time to return to the sport, it might draw more hunters from outside the state, and it might spur interest in hunting among young people.

The corresponding increase in hunting activity, they say, would have direct and indirect economic impacts totaling more than 8,000 jobs and $764 million in Pennsylvania.

They also say the underpinnings of the blue law are wormy with age and irrelevance -- one of the last relics of colonial nanny-state dogma.

Almost every other blue law has fallen: Pennsylvanians can shop on Sunday, drink and gamble on Sunday, or buy a motorcycle on Sunday. But you can't hunt (or buy a vehicle).

The challenge is not new, but it has newfound traction this year.

The Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs has come out in support of dropping the ban on Sunday hunting. The state Game Commission for the first time weighed in with a 4-3 vote in favor of the change.

State Rep. John Evans, the Republican chairman of the House Game & Fisheries Committee, was long opposed to the idea but has changed his mind.

"I was presented with the facts," Evans said. "From an economic standpoint, it's a real shot in the arm for the Pennsylvania economy, and when we're coming out of a recession, these types of opportunities need to be seized."

"Folks who argue against it generally are believers in the blue laws established years ago" said Evans, "but -- you know -- we have change as a society."

"If you don't want Sunday hunting on your land," he said, "all you have to do is post your land `No Sunday Hunting.' It's that simple. They really want to put their wishes out there for everybody to abide by."

Until now, the Farm Bureau has made sure any Sunday hunting proposal was basically dead on arrival. With more than 53,000 members across the state, the Farm Bureau is a voice that must be minded by rural legislators.

The Sunday hunting issue is "near and dear to the hearts of our farmers, who overwhelmingly oppose it," said Mark O'Neill, spokesman for the Farm Bureau.

But it's also a top issue of the Sunday Hunting Coalition, and O'Neill claimed there are "interests outside Pennsylvania with money coming in and pushing this. They are targeting Pennsylvania."

That's only partially true, said Jake McGuigan, director of state affairs for the National Shooting Sports Foundation -- the NRA's partner in the Sunday Hunting Coalition.

"Pennsylvania is a major priority for us this year," he acknowledged, but the group hardly represents "outside interests." Every member of the Sunday Hunting Coalition has significant membership inside Pennsylvania: the NRA alone has some 400,000 Pennsylvanians on its rolls.

The vice chair of Evans' committee, state Rep. Todd Rock, isn't on board with the proposal nor are other Republicans on the committee but says he is taking a "wait-and-see" stance for now.

"I had six local farmers come into my office together," Rock said, "and they said they would post their land" if the measure passed. "They opposed it for religious reasons and others."

(Donald Gilliland writes for The Patriot-News in Harrisburg, Pa.)

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alitwoshoes
04:25 PM on 08/09/2011
The Sabbath is not the "Jewish Sabbath". It was for all mankind. God rested on the 7th day and blessed it. It was God that made the day holy.

It was the Roman Catholic church that decided to "change" the worship from the Sabbath to the first day of the week. They claim that they did and claim that they have the authority to do so. But only God can make anything holy.
05:27 AM on 08/04/2011
"Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest."
05:48 PM on 08/03/2011
Sunday the sabbath? The Bible says that the 7th day of the week was the Sabbath that God gave to us! Sunday observance began several centuries after Christ & His Apostles died. They never changed it! Paul was still observing the Sabbath in 90 AD! And don't tell me that the day was changed to Sunday because Christ was raised that morning. Baloney! He died on a Wed. afternoon around 3 pm, just before an annual holy day of the Jews began that Thursday. Find that out for yourself, it's out there! He did NOT die on "good" Friday & rise up on Sunday! No one has been given permission to change what God has begun. No one! And it's not "Jewish," or God is Jewish, too, for HE rested on the Sabbath, as an example for our 1st parents! Unless THEY were Jewish, which makes us ALL Jewish, so we OUGHT to ALL be observing the Saturday Sabbath! NEVER Sunday!
11:15 AM on 08/01/2011
agree with some of the comments on here. the sabbath is actually sundown friday to sundown saturday. i don't know how long ago christians moved their day of worship.
10:47 AM on 08/01/2011
If this law is enacted because they simply do not want hunting done on sunday, that is fine. If this law was enacted because of biblical implications they are wrong. We as gentiles were never told to keep the sabbath holy and to follow those laws. Our apostle, the apostle of we gentiles(romans 11:13) says in romans 6:14, "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under law, but under grace". He also says in galations 2:16, Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Jesus Christ, and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified". So again, we are not under law today but the dispensation of the grace of God, where God is dispensing his grace to all who place their faith in the death, burial, and ressurection of Jesus Christ.
10:55 PM on 08/14/2011
Mr. Reid with much respect I want to share these verses with you. The Lord never changed his day, man did. Man can not make a day holy only God can. It's like me trying to change the constitution and going out and telling people that its okay to break the law. The law Jesus nailed to the cross was Moses's law not His, His commandments exist till this very day. Please read the following verses including the one you posted of Roman 6:14 many read that verse and stop there but read the next verse and read what it says. God Bless
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.18. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
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trekie70
Lifelong bibliophile and political junkie
06:31 PM on 07/25/2011
I think this whole debate is idiotic. Sunday is simply one more day of the week, it has 24 hours in it just like the other 6. I detest these Blue Laws that try to run my life one day a week, telling me what I can and cannot do. I lived for two miserable years in Sumter, SC where it was either light bulbs or lamps you couldn't buy on Sunday. Most of the things that Blue Laws prohibit aren't even addressed in the Bible; they're simply based on someone's interpretation.

I'm no fan of the NRA but hunting should be allowed on Sunday, in deference to the varied work schedules people have that may prevent them from hunting on other days.
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gemmax
09:45 AM on 07/25/2011
Sunday is the first day of the week. Christians go to church on Sunday and celebrate the resurrection. The sabbath is Saturday, the seventh day and we are told to remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. I believe that God told us to do this for our own benefit. Human beings should not work everyday, and study and contemplation, prayer and meditation are good for us in more ways than one.
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The Ghoul
I live off Republican tears and I'm never hungry
02:37 PM on 07/24/2011
Hunt on the sabbath! That way you can cling to your guns and religion at the same time!
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
02:19 PM on 07/22/2011
The Christian version of Sharia Law is certainly a problem. How about no laws created soley for reglious reasons?
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StevenM
Chess Coach
10:49 AM on 07/22/2011
The Sabbath is from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. Any competent biblical scholar can confirm this well known fact. Unfortunately, many uninformed Christians know so little about their own tradition that they make the mistaken assumption that Sunday must be the Sabbath.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
02:14 PM on 07/22/2011
Most of them know that; they call it the "Christian Sabbath!"   What they don't know is; their imaginary friends aren't real.
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StevenM
Chess Coach
03:11 PM on 07/22/2011
Oh, that's right, the Christian Sabbth, it is the day after the Jewish Sunday.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
03:20 PM on 07/22/2011
Did your mother have any children that didn't have severe braindamage?
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StevenM
Chess Coach
11:25 PM on 07/22/2011
Your personal insult merely says more about your character than mine.

You wish to redefine the term "Sabbath" by adding the adjective "Christian," so that the phrase "Christian Sabbath" refers to Sunday. Similarly, I redefined the term "Sunday" by adding the term "Jewish" so to make the phrase "Jewish Sunday" refer to Saturday.

It is similar to referring to the "Birdwatcher's Bible," such a book isn't really a Bible, but a guide for birdwatchers.

The bottom line is this. The term Sabbath as it is used in the Bible never refers to Sunday. Historically, the notion of a "Christian Sabbath" was a later development after Christians stopped observing the biblical Sabbath. It is an anachronism.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
08:36 AM on 07/22/2011
Any state that bans liquor sales on Sunday should also ban the killing of mammals.
Helloise
Healthy skeptic admires reason, trusts intuition
11:19 AM on 07/22/2011
But doesn't that cut into the argument that parishioners should be allowed to bring guns to church?
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Demetrios423
11:46 PM on 07/21/2011
It is not illegal to hunt on Saturday (the Sabbath) in Pennsylvania. The "Lord's designated day of rest" is and always has been Saturday. It has never changed and the Church (I'm not talking about small independent groups) has never claimed to change it. If you think otherwise look it up.

Besides that, this is a violation of church and state. To prohibit activity based off a religious law/practice is to enforce said law/practice.
05:13 PM on 07/21/2011
Either are fine by me as long as I am allowed a day (one a year will do) to shoot Christians!
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Misterioso Adversario
THE THIRST MUTILATOR!
05:21 PM on 07/21/2011
I fail to see what is humorous about shooting people.
05:32 PM on 07/21/2011
You're right. We should stick to what the Bible says about people who work on the Sabbath and... oh wait... it says we have to kill them!

It doesn't specify how so maybe we can shoot them after all!
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
08:58 AM on 07/22/2011
That sounds fair to me !
04:16 PM on 07/21/2011
What a dilemma for Christian conservatives, eh?
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gemmax
10:04 AM on 07/25/2011
41%percent of Republicans own a gun, 27% of independents and 23% of Democrats. In other words fewer pubs own guns than others.

Gallup 2005
04:06 PM on 07/21/2011
This and other blue laws really have little to do with religion anymore. For example, all non-food retail Bergen County in suburban NYC North Jersey is closed on Sunday. This is an area with a major Jewish population that will not shop on Saturday, yet the law remains because other residents really just want one traffic-free day. Similarly, when New York State was getting rid of its blue law forbidding sales of wine and spirits (which can be sold only in dedicated stores under NYS law), the mom-and-pop storeowners opposed it. Why? Because having to close one day made sure that big stores, able to stay open 7 days, would force the little guys out of business. So the law was amended to say that all wine and spirits store just had to close one day a week, but that day was up to them.