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Egypt Elections: Foreign Monitors Not Allowed, Generals Announce

Egyptian Elections Foreign Monitors

HAMZA HENDAWI and SARAH EL DEEB   07/20/11 05:49 PM ET   AP

CAIRO — Egypt's council of military rulers will not allow international monitors to observe upcoming parliamentary elections designed to move the country back toward civilian rule, a council member said Wednesday.

The decision, which is part of a new election law approved by the country's ruling generals, was swiftly criticized by activists who said it raises questions about the transparency of the first elections after the ousting of Hosni Mubarak and urged the military to reconsider.

Maj. Gen. Mamdouh Shaheen, who presented the new law to reporters Wednesday, said barring foreign monitors was a necessary step to protect Egypt's sovereignty. "We have nothing to hide," he said, adding that "we reject anything that affects our sovereignty."

Egyptian election monitors will observe the process instead, he said.

Hafez Abou Saada, a member of the National Council for Human Rights, said promises of free and fair elections from the military are not enough, and noted that denying international monitors mirrors the line adopted by Mubarak's regime.

"International monitors are part of any modern elections," he said. "Many countries are watching what is happening in Egypt. This is not a very positive signal."

The new law also lowers the minimum age for candidacy for the lower house from 30 to 25, apparently to allow youth who led the 18-day uprising that toppled Mubarak to run. Rules for the upper house remain the same: Candidates must be at least 35 years old, and a newly elected president will appoint 100 of the body's 390 members.

The judiciary, Shaheen said, will oversee the whole electoral process, limiting the role of the Interior Ministry, which many Egyptians say remains tainted by its many years as the Mubarak regime's enforcer, and was responsible for much of the rigging in previous elections.

The voting itself, which will be for the upper and lower houses of parliament at the same time, will be spread over a month before the end of 2011, and the army will set their date by decree before the end of next month, Shaheen said.

The final election law has also brushed aside demands by political groups that aimed to shield the electoral system against vote buying, rampant under the previous regime, and the return of former regime officials by barring individual candidates.

Instead, the law allows for half of the 504 seats up for grabs to be contested by individual candidates instead of party lists.

The law comes amid a fierce debate in Egypt about the military's place in public life, with some viewing the army as a bulwark against Islamists rising to power and others as a pernicious force protecting its own deep-seated interests and those of Mubarak's ousted regime.

Many suspect that the generals now ruling Egypt are trying to enshrine a future role for themselves, possibly with the authority to intervene in politics. Their push appears to be driven by the military's fear of losing the near-autonomous power it has enjoyed for almost 60 years.

A key member of a panel drafting guidelines for Egypt's next constitution said Wednesday that most of the group's 50 members object to giving the military a future role in politics.

Legal expert Tahany el-Gibali said the binding principles will have enough guarantees to protect the rights of all Egyptians while also safeguarding the civilian character of the state.

Another legal expert and panel member, Mohammed Nour Farahat, said the panel would submit the draft to the military, but that it would be up to the generals sitting on the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces to decide what to do with the document – adopt it without change, amend it, issue it by decree or put it up for a referendum.

They said the draft is likely to be ready in a matter of days and that it would represent a compromise that bridges the gap between Islamists and the rest of the country's political forces over the selection of those to be mandated to draft the constitution and the nature of the charter wanted by most Egyptians.

Many in Egypt fear that the Islamists, led by the Muslim Brotherhood – the country's largest and best organized political group – will dominate parliamentary elections expected later this year. The next legislature will be mandated with selecting a 100-member constituent assembly to draft the new constitution, a privilege that could mean a document with an Islamist slant if the Brotherhood and other Islamists sweep the polls.

Military leaders themselves have suggested they retain a special role. Shaheen, the general who announced the election law, said in comments published recently that the country's next constitution should safeguard the armed forces against the "whims" of any future president, practically asking for the armed forces to be given virtually complete independence.

He took a softer line on Wednesday, saying the military has not produced its own guidelines, and that these would have to be defined and agreed upon by "the political forces."

One of the legal experts the military is consulting in the process, Hisham Bastawisi, has gone further, proposing that the army in the future have the role of "guaranteeing supra-constitutional principles." In his formulation, that would appear to mean powers to intervene to protect basic democratic rights.

But some fear that could give the generals a tool for imposing its will at a time when the country is trying to move toward democratic rule with civilians at the helm.

Bastawisi, who has announced his intention to run for president, also proposed extensive independence for the military, including immunity from parliamentary scrutiny of its budgets and prohibitions on passing laws affecting the military without the generals' approval.

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11:11 PM on 07/20/2011
The fear of the Muslim Brotherhood is just the Media talking, Egypt is pretty much a conservative society,The youth Much more religious, Men attend Prayer, Almost no one drinks except Tourists, the Women wear Scarfs on their own will, even if the MB was elect it would could not be any more islamatized, The Army isn't going to waste lives fighting Israel in another war because it's Pointless, But again the Media likes to keep the boogeyman alive.
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02:58 AM on 07/21/2011
As long as it brings long term stability (as genuine democracy generally does), The West could not care less... As far as the U.S. is concerned, the 3rd world can maintain their quirky religious dogma, as long as it doesn't interfere with business... Further analysis of western culture and 'media' is generally unnecessary.
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redsoxpagan
11:03 PM on 07/20/2011
The claim that many Egyptians fear the Islamists taking over is bogus. The forces trying to undermine the revolution are using that scenario to excuse their nefarious activities. The only ones who fear it are the ignorant Americans who only care about their interests, not Egyptian democracy. (my source being those actually involved in the revolution, and not some analysis whose only experience in Egypt is sipping a cocktail next to a luxury pool in Alexandria.)
08:33 PM on 07/20/2011
haha who say that coming... oh that's right me!! i said it when this happened.  they show allow for a legal transition and let the guy finish the term, wind things down, allows elections to be set up and and move on with regular election that should have happened in September.  all of those people with no foresight... ohh toss him out.. over though the government.  Where did they go?  Oh I know they moved on to Libya
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07:49 PM on 07/20/2011
The Revolution continues
because the Oppression continues.

There is no better marker of liberty
than Free, Open and Fair Elections.
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wom122
Primum non nocere
07:48 PM on 07/20/2011
How many countries actually allow foreigners to monitor their elections? Surely we don't.
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cdncommentator
10:34 PM on 07/20/2011
Many new democracies do, in order to show themselves and others that they have actually conducted a fair and honest vote. After doing that once or twice, the foreign monitors aren't necessary.

I think it would do Egypt a lot of good to have them. The sovereignty argument is silly at best and possible a sign that this will not be a free election, at worst.
06:02 PM on 07/20/2011
Look for these generals to sabotage the elections for democracy and try to put one of their own in charge to again rule like a dictator for another 30 years. These generals have to be fired.
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jmdziuban1
Heeey, Mr Spaceman.
05:16 PM on 07/20/2011
So,it is the leftists who are more in favor of a greater military role,interesting, also disappointing. I understand the worry of a takeover of government by the conservative Muslim Brotherhood, religious fundamentalists who presumably wish to set up a theocratic democracy, and theocratic governments rarely work well for the people. However, I cannot accept that explicitly giving the military the power to interpose into politics and government is a good thing. Besides which, the military always retains the ability to interpose into politics, and into governmental affairs, even if only by its leaders decision to refuse to follow an order by by the head of the government. This is not to be encouraged except in the most dire , most extreme, of circumstances.

The military's idea of its budget being beyond scrutiny by parliament, and the idea of parliament being prohibited from independently passing laws in regards to the military, are both patently absurd.
03:56 AM on 07/21/2011
Why then, in America, where there is a serious debate on which categories of government spending are to ne cut and how much they are to be cut, nobody is talking about reducing military spending? Is it beyond scrutiny there too?
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Squiriferous
Back off, man. I'm a scientist.
05:05 PM on 07/20/2011
Despot in a coma, I know, I know, it's serious. Nyuck.
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theuniversalcollective
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09:17 PM on 07/20/2011
it's really serious. There were times I couldv'e
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KIVPossum
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04:46 PM on 07/20/2011
LOL - so much for democracy
I said long ago it would only be a change of military dictators. Nothing for the people
06:10 PM on 07/20/2011
What's that got to do with democracy? Are you saying the US doesn't have democracy because there aren't foreigners monitoring it's elections?
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KIVPossum
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07:02 PM on 07/20/2011
Wouldn't it be nice if we had someone monitoring FL and OH in 00 and 04?
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Vlad Roudenko
07:56 PM on 07/20/2011
Lets put it this way. Why doesn't the US allow any observers?.... So much for democracy.
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08:18 PM on 07/20/2011
Who should be observing our elections? France, China, Russia, or the UK? The U.S. democracy is observed by the group with an actual vested interest, the people of the U.S. through entirely free and partisan media groups. Should Egypt allow unrestricted open journalism, their lack of foreign observers would be irrelevant.
11:05 AM on 07/22/2011
I recommend airhead or airmax or whatever his name is, read a book called "The Political Illusion" by Jaques Ellul. It;s over 50 years old but still covers the topic of democracy and the two party system quite accurately.
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04:44 PM on 07/20/2011
"Egypt Elections: Foreign Monitors Not Allowed, Generals Announce"

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Well, we know where this is heading......

(Arab Spring & Summer meet the long, cold Arab Autumn and Winter)
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Cannonball Taffy O Jones
Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
04:32 PM on 07/20/2011
Wow, the Mubarak appointed Egyptian Army generals are trying to control the place’s ‘democracy’. That’s a shock.
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madsen26
06:02 PM on 07/20/2011
I think you're partially right - but there's a context to that attitude from the military, being obviously their longtime direct involvement in running the country. If you look at other similar difficult transitions to democracy, such as what happened in Indonesia, you see that it's a daily struggle between different interest groups to shape the country's political future. This is actually why the direct people power on the street is an important factor, the conventional parties taking shape are less of a direct pressure on the military.
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theuniversalcollective
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09:18 PM on 07/20/2011
better than the brotherhood old boy
04:21 PM on 07/20/2011
International election monitors do not interfere with the sovereignty of a democratic government.  In fact, they actually enforce the sovereignty of the voters by making sure the government doesn't fix the elections.  The US doesn't have foreign election monitors either, which is why this country is not very democratic.  A government cannot be trusted to oversee its own elections.  The ruling party will always have an advantage when there is no outside control.
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Vlad Roudenko
07:57 PM on 07/20/2011
I have been saying this for years as it relates to the US. Very few seem to understand this concept.
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08:12 PM on 07/20/2011
The U.S. does not need foreign election monitors because it has a free media (a non government organization overseeing elections). The partisan aspects of American politics and media make any story about election shenanigans inevitable. If the Arab/Muslim world (or anywhere else) wants a stable democracy, free media is a necessary institution.