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First Posted: 07/21/2011 3:39 pm Updated: 09/20/2011 5:12 am

Florida's largest teachers' union joined the American Civil Liberties Union and several rabbis and ministers seeking to halt a 2012 ballot measure they say falsely couches a push to allow school vouchers in the language of religious freedom. The groups filed a lawsuit against the secretary of state Wednesday to prevent the measure.

"We’re trying to get it off the ballot because it’s misleading," Andy Ford, president of the Florida Education Association, told The Huffington Post. "Our suit is saying that you need truth in advertising, so don't call it religious freedom."

The amendment, which will appear for a vote on the 2012 ballot, would change a piece of Florida's constitution known as a "Blaine Amendment" that denies public dollars from being spent "directly or indirectly in aid of any church, sect, or religious denomination."

Proponents say the measure would rid the state of language that has anti-Catholic origins, while the litigantssay that claim, as it applies to Florida, is pure myth.

The suit comes after a number of laws have created and expanded school voucher programs across the country, from Milwaukee to Indiana.

Those laws have likewise faced backlash. Wisconsin's ACLU requested a federal investigation into Milwaukee's voucher practices, and filed a lawsuit against a similar system in Douglas County, Colorado.

School voucher programs allow private -- often religious -- schools to use taxpayer money that would have otherwise funded traditional public schools to subsidize students' schooling. Florida has long been a scene of vitriolic debate over vouchers, with one side espousing concerns regarding the separation of church and state.

In 2006, Florida's Supreme Court struck down a voucher system already operating under then-Governor Jeb Bush's tenure. Litigants for the FEA say the proposed amendment seeks to reopen that debate -- without actually saying so.

"We would support a constitutional amendment that would tell people what it was going to do," Ford said. "Then we can have a real discussion on the issue."

This spring, Florida’s legislature voted to put "Amendment 7" on the 2012 ballot. According to the bill, the amendment would "eradicate remnants of anti-religious bigotry from the State Constitution and to end exclusionary funding practices that discriminate on the basis of religious belief or identity." The ballot amendment reads:

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. -- Proposing an amendment to the State Constitution to provide, consistent with the United States Constitution, that no individual or entity may be denied, on the basis of religious identity or belief, governmental benefits, funding, or other support and to delete the prohibition against using revenues from the public treasury directly or indirectly in aid of any church, sect, or religious denomination or in aid of any sectarian institution.

According to complainants, the measure is misleading, because, Ford says, what sounds like religious freedom could actually lead to an infusion of public money into private schools.

"If you want to have a vote, let's have an up or down vote on vouchers," he said. "Let's not pretend it's about religious freedom."

State Rep. Scott Plankon (R), who introduced the legislation that put Amendment 7 on the ballot, said the bills opponents "are all wrapped around it having to do with vouchers." He said vouchers are just one of many programs that could benefit from the funding mentioned in the amendment.

"The school choice issue was mentioned in the context of a lot of other things that could be affected: soup kitchens, halfway houses, McKay scholarships, catholic charities," he said. "I rarely mentioned [vouchers], and if I did, it was with other things."

But a spokeswoman for Foundation for Florida's Future, an organization founded by former Gov. Jeb Bush that promotes the education measures he spearheaded as governor, agreed.

"Amendment 7 is not about vouchers," Jaryn Emhof said in a statement. "It is about providing Floridians high-quality public services (social, healthcare, and education), irrespective of the provider’s religious affiliation."

Catholic League president Bill Donahue, who supports Amendment 7, concedes the school voucher issue and the amendment are related.

"Religious freedom and vouchers are tied together no matter what you say, let’s face it," he said.

Donahue said the current language of the Florida constitution is rooted in anti-Catholicism, and a historical fight over religious schooling.

"It goes back to when Protestantism and anti-Catholicism was taught in the public schools," he said. "It was introduced as a way to maintain a monopoly and to prevent public aid from going to Catholic schools."

Rev. Kent Siladi, a minister who signed onto the suit, resists that characterization. "The Blaine amendment was adapted in 1885, when there was no anti-Catholic bias evident in Florida at the time," he said, adding that the measure was first introduced by a Catholic official.

According to Daniel Mach, Director of the ACLU's Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief, Amendment 7 misleads in its invocation of federal law.

"Contrary to federal law, the new ballot would create a virtual requirement that requires state law to allow public money to go to religious institutions," he said. "Proponents want to force taxpayers to support synagogues, mosques and churches and re-fight Florida’s voucher war."

The suit, Mach said, also seeks to change the process by which a ballot amendment struck down by state court gets rewritten. Currently, the state attorney general would rewrite such laws, but the suit claims that process violates the separation of powers.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott, a strong proponent of vouchers, declined to comment about the suit.

The FEA previously sued Scott over pension reform. The case is proceeding, though the court did not grant the FEA its requested injunction to hold the first 3 percent in pension contributions that would be removed from salaries this year under the new law into a fund that would be restored to teachers should the union ultimately win.

According to Ford, "there's more to come" in the way of FEA lawsuits.

"We're aiming for back to school," he said, regarding the timing of a lawsuit that would likely challenge Florida's new teacher evaluation law.

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Florida's largest teachers' union joined the American Civil Liberties Union and several rabbis and ministers seeking to halt a 2012 ballot measure they say falsely couches a push to allow school vouch...
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foresure
Brash and Harsh
10:49 PM on 07/25/2011
Wait until a madrassa asks for state funding. That will be a lot of fun.
03:09 AM on 07/26/2011
Your sarcasm aside, you still need to submit plans for a school and have the curriculum approved by the BoE for that State. If the institution doesn't cut the mustard for educational criteria then it doesn't get funding.
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Brash and Harsh
10:35 PM on 07/26/2011
Deux

I wasn't being sarcastic. If you allow funding to religiously affiliated schools, you can't discriminate on the basis of the theology they are teaching.



The Founders understood that when you mix church and state, you get real problems.

To them it was just the Protestants hating the Catholics, and vice versa. Now we have so many more groups to hate.
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MarvinM
Where's the Ka-Boom?
03:43 PM on 07/28/2011
But being lost in this discussion is that things like what you say, even if true, are not what people think they will be voting for if they vote for this amendment next Fall, and that's why it's wrong. They think "religious freedom, that sound good, I'll vote for it!".

They don't think "My tax dollars will go to send a kid to a religious school teaching beliefs I do not share". And it is flat out lying to say the promotion and passing of this bill did not have anything to do with school vouchers. It has everything to do with vouchers and virtual education (and those who will profit from it) and nothing to do with redressing this awful thing FL did to Catholics with the Blaine Amendment, as they try to portray it.
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benji85
06:51 AM on 07/25/2011
Add to this the fact that Florida public schools will not be getting PECO money for upkeep this year. Not one dime from the legislature, instead it is all going towards charter schools.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-charter-school-construction-dollar20110724,0,7507766.story

They aren't in favor of raising taxes on them, but they'll gladly let property owners pay more in taxes, and if they get the mortgage deduction removed we'll see a return to the WMOOPA (White Male Old Owners of Property Aristocrats) age.
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MarvinM
Where's the Ka-Boom?
03:26 PM on 07/23/2011
The FL legislature would not have put this amendment before the people if they weren't planning to attempt to pass vouchers. The Tax and Budget Reform Commission tried to do the same thing, way out of line with what the purpose of the commission was. Gov. Charlie Crist (R), Senate Pres. Ken Pruitt (R) and House Speaker Marco Rubio (R) made the appointments to the committee. Amongst his appointments, Marco Rubio chose two heads of Jeb Bush's educational foundations.

So, yeah, it is vital that the wording of the amendment not be misleading.

Here's one overview article, but there's tons more:

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/may/21/jeb-bush-remains-key-player-education-policy-not-e/

I'm off to google the current board members and research their ties to the current FL legislators.
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
09:17 AM on 07/23/2011
If private schools (no matter the flavor) want public money, then they must agree to submit to all of the crippling rules with which public schools are saddled, pure and simple.
12:04 PM on 07/23/2011
Better still why don't States and the trustees of the public schools do away with those same crippling rules that make education so lame in the USA with their politically correctness yet providing no more than a sub-standard education for their charges.
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
12:49 PM on 07/23/2011
Begs the question, doesn't it?

Which is easier? Getting private schools to conform to public school rules, or unleashing public schools from those rules altogether?
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Protocolor
Have maths, will travel.
06:35 PM on 07/23/2011
"trustees"? They're called "school boards", you ½wit! You vote on them in your local elections, you silly clown!

Sure, some rules come from the federal government, so the very fiirst of those "crippling rules" to go out the door would be "No Child Left Behind"... and good riddance.
01:24 PM on 07/22/2011
Seperation of Church and State. Plain and simple. No religion needs to be in government or the school system. Freedom of Religion. Practice what you want just leave me out of it and don't kill animals and people. Seems pretty straight forward.
01:15 PM on 07/22/2011
And the Republican party is the party that wants to "cut" tax waste by eliniminating social programs, Medicaid, public services, PUBLIC education, yet tax funding for religious based schools is OK! This party has not only divided America for their own finacial gain, they are willing to deprive the "blue" Americans of the same things they expect for "red" Americans!
12:50 PM on 07/22/2011
I laugh at many of the commentators here who want to prevent a ballot on the issue based on the opinion that they find the wording not to their liking. They then compound their arrogance by saying that the voters are likely to be deceived.
Two issues. Firstly, in the absense of referendums in the USA, the attempt to kill off a ballot before it's voted on is, in my opinion, most undemocratic. Secondly, the critics of the ballot are patronizing in the extreme as they are implying that other voters are that gullible as to be easily deceived.
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K August
Research alecexposed
10:33 PM on 07/22/2011
The wording is meant to confuse voters. That's a practice that has been used for a long time and can have bad consequences.

Look at CA and their 3 strikes law. The people were told that it was only for the worst violent offenders and as above...... the wording was confusing....
Now CA has a huge prison population .....shoplifters and petty criminals are doing LIFE and the tax payers are paying for it and the state is struggling with it's budget.
It's so bad that some prime-time show did a whole segment on it.
12:01 PM on 07/23/2011
You are basically implying that the majority of California voters are public schooled are failing in their reading comprehension. My suggestion would be to offer those parents who want something better for their children the alternatives. I'll stick by what I said which is that ballots are a good way of finding out the voters requirements are. I have no objection to any independent committee commenting and reporting on the wording of this or any other ballot. You can start by having some grammarians on that committee.
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MarvinM
Where's the Ka-Boom?
11:38 AM on 07/22/2011
Several years ago there was a movement to raise the % approval for amendments to the FL Constitution from a straight 50% to 60% At the time I was against it.

Now I am very happy that's in place.

If it does manage to stay on the ballot, it will have to have 60% approval, and since there is likely to be a huge turnout, the North Florida Religious Right Coalition that basically spent it's time trying to get this on the ballot (instead of creating jobs bills or doing something actually useful to help all Floridians) may not be able to get it through because of South Florida voters - lotsa population in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties!

Most likely it will be tossed off the ballot by the supreme court like it was last time, unless Rick Scott fills the FLSC with his cronies, but that couldn't possibly happen ...
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satanlite
If ur neibor wtchs Fox Nws wtch ur neibor
09:53 AM on 07/22/2011
The right will always engage in misleading statements and distortion of facts because their real goal is innately Anti-American and Anti-social.
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12:47 PM on 07/22/2011
Its also anti-human, anti-intellectual and antebellum; the perfect hiding place for sociopaths.
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Johngy
Johngy lives in GA
07:48 AM on 07/22/2011
We only hear the first part of the 1st Amendment, "Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion..." but they seem to miss the second part, "Or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Congress, nor anyone else, can prohibit religious activity. No law can prohibit a Christmas display anywhere. No law can take the 10 Commandments down from any place, be it school, courthouse, or private property. Any community, group, or individule that says one can not do these things in in violation of the Constitution.
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MNKen
Eschew Obfuscation
10:16 AM on 07/22/2011
If you truly believe in total freedom of religion, please petition your local courthouse to post the tenants of Sharia law next to the 10 Commandments.

It is either all or nothing. Your examples are all Christian based. Please get back to us when you actively support the rights of all religions.
10:28 AM on 07/22/2011
That's how you read that sentence, clearly. But most people, especially those who count because their interpretations have set policy, have interpreted it differently. The question is which part of the sentence takes precedence, and the mainstream view has been that the first part is the most important, so the government (or individuals acting in their capacity as government representatives) can't put up commandments or nativity displays on public property. Of course, they're free to do so on their own private property, or in their capacity as private citizens, and the government can't stop them.
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hardknocks
the future is unwritten
07:17 AM on 07/22/2011
"We’re trying to get it off the ballot because it’s misleading,"

No you want it off the ballot because it gives parents choice and government schools do not want to have to compete for students. Since when has a teachers union looked out for the best intrest of the children?

The FEA is a lawsuit producing machine.
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satanlite
If ur neibor wtchs Fox Nws wtch ur neibor
09:54 AM on 07/22/2011
What's wrong with wanting it to state honestly what the intent is? Why do you defend distortion? Is that the only way you can get your desires in the ballot box?

"Let's not pretend it's about religious freedom."

Why must you rely on pretending? What exactly are you afraid of?
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hardknocks
the future is unwritten
12:21 PM on 07/22/2011
Why are you so afraid of a ballot initiative that gives vouchers? The choice is you can use them or not. If you are anti religion or worried about church and state issues simply choose a public school.

Take religion out of the equation do you want parents to have the ability to choose the school best suited for their children.

I will use your own wording…… “What exactly are you afraid of?”
10:29 AM on 07/22/2011
Most of what teachers' unions push for benefits students either directly or indirectly. Of any group with a stake in education, they're consistently the most pro-student, because the teachers' interests and the students' interests almost completely overlap. Neither has much in common with corporate interests, or the interests of politicians who want to bash education for political gain.
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hardknocks
the future is unwritten
12:12 PM on 07/22/2011
I would respectfully disagree; it is the union’s job to look out for their best interest sometimes that includes the teacher. The teacher should be the one that is most pro-student and in probably 98 percent of cases that is true.

I can agree that politicians as well as union officials “bash” educational change only for their own personal gain.
07:16 AM on 07/22/2011
I believe that budgets for all voucher programs should be separate from "Public School Budgets". As a separate budget item all legislatures would have to vote specifically for increases and decreases to voucher programs and separately for Public School Budgets. We would the see which elected official supported Public Education and which doesn't. This separation would also show "true" increases to the public school budgets by not allowing an increase in spending for vouchers to be included as an increase for public education.
07:54 AM on 07/22/2011
As I pointed out below, parents who send their children to private or parochial schools are saving money and resources for the public schools and alleviating overcrowding as well. The fees paid by these parents are currently not tax deductible for parents. To be equitable those parents should be getting vouchers, a tax allowance, or a property tax refund to cover the resources they don't consume from the public school system. And if proper accounting is done for say, examination results, for both public and private schools on a cost-per-pupil basis as is the case in Australia and openly published on the internet that will allow parents to make the choices that they can afford and that appeals to their sense of educational philosophy. Can't imagine that many USA schools, public or private ones included, that would be comfortable with that amount of scrutiny leading to requests for justification of their costs and performance
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satanlite
If ur neibor wtchs Fox Nws wtch ur neibor
09:56 AM on 07/22/2011
I agree that those families sending children to private schools should get a form of tax allowance equal to the savings the state realizes.  No problem with that.
10:31 AM on 07/22/2011
Why should they be given vouchers? To be equitable? Because the government provides a service they choose not to use?

The government pays part of the cost of bus service in my area, but I don't use it. Should the government make my car payment?
06:27 AM on 07/22/2011
If USD 300 million+ of government money can be given to the private non-profit Planned Parenthood for non-abortion health services then government money should be given to established parochial/religious schools that provide educational opportunities for students that would otherwise fall through the cracks in the broken public school systems. The money can have the analogous restriction of not being used to teach religion. This would be exactly the same logic as the supporters who advocate the allocation of government funding for Planned Parenthood.
As a great fan of referendums and voter ballots shouldn't those be a part of what democracy is about. I may ask, why is the ACLU trying to prevent it from being put on a state ballot for the people to vote on???
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ejcop77
the country that I know is disappearing
06:54 AM on 07/22/2011
there's a little something call the constitution Deux. Some americans are fans of the document
07:41 AM on 07/22/2011
Again another one that doesn't understand that Constitution implies "Freedom of Religion" not "Freedom from Religion" but even that's irrelevant here. As I mentioned you can cover the religious aspect from all angles by restricting money from being used in religious teaching or services. No different from the private non-profit Planned Parenthood getting USD 300 million+ per annum for women's health services but the money is not supposed to go to any abortions performed at their clinics. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
My other point was that I can see the Florida Teachers Union having a stake in not having money diverted to other schools than their own little cabal but for the ACLU to join in a lawsuit to prevent a voter's ballot???. I would not have as much objection if the ACLU sued after the ballot results were in to see whether there was a constitutional point or breech with any subsequent legislation passed because of the ballot. To try and prevent the voters from having a ballot in the first place seems to me most undemocratic.
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johnb123
All I ask..just be reasonable....do things my way
03:40 AM on 07/22/2011
Put it up to a vote of the people, let the people decide. It's their money. POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
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ejcop77
the country that I know is disappearing
06:55 AM on 07/22/2011
except when it comes to collection bargaining rights, the rights of the unions, rich people paying their fair share of taxes, not entering bogus wars. then we go from being a democracy to a republic
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johnb123
All I ask..just be reasonable....do things my way
09:59 AM on 07/22/2011
Sadly more and more often courts are over turning the vote of the people We are becoming less and less of a democracy. The republic is being bought out by the highest bidder.
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MarvinM
Where's the Ka-Boom?
03:25 AM on 07/22/2011
I cannot believe we are here again. Jeb Bush's bill was found unconstitutional; later, the Florida Tax and Budget Reform Commission's similar recommendation that would have been put to the general electorate for a vote was yanked from the ballot by the supreme court for the same reason (and what was the Tax and Budget Reform Commission wasting it's time on passing measures so that state tax funds could be funneled to religious schools and other organizations?

Maybe because Marco Rubio appointed Bush cronies to the Commission, including two people who were then on the board ... no, wait, I think they were the heads of the boards, of Jeb Bush's educational foundations!

I haven't revisited this story for a while, but I shall go re-collect my resources, links, etc. and share them with you.

In light of what is happening now, it could be an illuminating story.