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McConnell-Reid Debt Deal Close To Being Scrapped, Larger Package Reportedly In Reach

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First Posted: 07/21/11 01:45 PM ET Updated: 09/20/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The fail-safe debt ceiling plan crafted by the Senate's top two leaders, Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), is close to being put on political life support, those familiar with negotiations tell The Huffington Post, as lawmakers coalesce around a major deal instead.

Sources on the Hill Thursday morning expressed a newfound -- at times defeatist -- sense of worry about the political prospects of the proposal, which would cut roughly $1.5 trillion over ten years while granting authority to the president to suggest (but not sign off on) future spending cuts as a condition of raising the debt ceiling now. House Republicans have told leadership that they are sour on the idea, with more than 90 members pledging to oppose it. Another factor contributing toward its demise, however, has been the Obama administration's decision to continue to push for a bigger deficit-reduction package, which has led many lawmakers to consider the McConnell-Reid option both insufficient and potentially unnecessary.

"I think it is certainly an uphill battle now," a Hill Democrat said of the McConnell-Reid plan.

"We did not leave the [White House] meeting yesterday feeling like there was a clear path moving forward," said another Democratic congressional aide. "People are being drawn towards other solutions at the moment. But they are mirages."

Or perhaps not. On Thursday afternoon, a report surfaced that Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio)'s office and the Obama administration were close to a major deal to resolve the debt ceiling standoff.

The president and his team had separate meetings on Wednesday evening with congressional Democratic and Republican leadership to chart out a way forward on the debt ceiling deal. The administration pressed, as it has in the past, for lawmakers to coalesce around as big a deficit reduction package as politically possible. There are conflicting reports as to what was discussed. But according to multiple sources from both parties, the administration signaled a willingness to tackle a bigger plan than even that proposed by the bipartisan Gang of Six.

What such a deal would look like is difficult to pin down in detail, as much of the Gang of Six proposal requires congressional committees to write in the specific cuts to programs under their purview. But it would involve steep reductions in health care spending -- both in Medicare and Medicaid. In previous debt ceiling negotiations, the administration has supported further means-testing elements of Medicare as well as raising the eligibility age of the program. Cuts to Medicare suppliers would also be part of a larger package, as would adjusting the payment structure of Social Security so that a lower level of benefits was paid out over time.

The White House declined to comment on any aspect of the meetings and denied reports of a deal. Michael Steel, a spokesman for Boehner, said only the following: “While we are keeping the lines of communication open, there is no ‘deal’ and no progress to report. We are still focused on the ‘Cut, Cap, and Balance’ bill that passed the House with bipartisan support, and hope the Senate will take it up as soon as possible.”

As an indication of where Wednesday's conversation went, a Republican source told The Huffington Post that Boehner did the majority of the talking while House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) played a supportive role. Boehner has been more open to a big deal than Cantor, whose pushback on the president's proposal has caused fireworks during previous White House meetings.

For negotiators, the sticking point, in the end, remains what type of revenue component will come with any arrangement. House Republicans have insisted that tax increases should be completely off the table. The Gang of Six skirts around that requirement by attaching revenue increases to the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax, which constitutes a $1.7 trillion tax revenue reduction over the course of ten years.

The White House has laid out an alternative suggestion during past negotiations: Lawmakers would be required to find $800 billion in additional revenues over the next decade. If they could not find an agreement, then the Bush-era tax cuts for the high-end earners will expire.

A top Republican aide said that such an arrangement remained problematic for the party, even with anti-tax zealots like Grover Norquist acknowledging on Thursday that allowing the Bush rates to expire would not technically count as a tax increase. Democrats, the source said, would be compelled to simply "run out the clock" -- as in, oppose any deal with confidence that the Bush rates on the rich would rise regardless.

In order to try and find agreement on this front, a slight reversal to the administration's original plan has been floated, according to a Democratic official. Rather than write the decoupling of the Bush tax cuts into the debt ceiling legislation, negotiators will simply leave the rates as is.

Lawmakers would still be tasked with finding $800 billion or so in revenues to supplement a deficit-reduction deal. But if that $800 billion didn't materialize, they would no longer have the fallback option of seeing the high-end rates go back to pre-Bush levels when they are set to expire at the end of 2012. Instead, they would have to relive the dramatic legislative showdown that happened in late 2010, when the president and Democrats tried, unsuccessfully, to decouple the top rates from the middle and lower income rates.

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WASHINGTON -- The fail-safe debt ceiling plan crafted by the Senate's top two leaders, Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), is close to being put on political life support, those familiar ...
WASHINGTON -- The fail-safe debt ceiling plan crafted by the Senate's top two leaders, Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), is close to being put on political life support, those familiar ...
 
 
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06:02 PM on 07/24/2011
This is all about the politicians who didn't do their job!! Just who is the odd man out in all this. The Senate never passed a budget bill. The President budget didn't receive one vote. The House passed a budget bill ,but the rest of the odd man out team don't agree on the spending cuts. These people believe they should decide the new debt ceiling.
Hello!! is anyone in their right mind think these guys can control a new debt ceiling. Talk about a path to failure.
09:50 PM on 07/22/2011
The Radical Right Wing Totallitarian Juvenile delinquent republicans don't give a flying hoot about debt. They wracked up 87% of it, and been looting the Treasury of the United States
and kicked our country off the cliff.

Been trying to privatize Social Security & Medicare and eliminate the Government - We The People Pay to Protect our Quality of Life &Standard of Living -- Working on behalf of Predatory Standards for Coporations.

After King of the Tea Baggers GWB failed to privatize Social Security -- which would have required borrowing 5Trillion to Pay Current Recipients -- Now been using the debt ceiling
to try again while brainwashing their voters who wouldn't know a socialist from a czar.

Democrats invented PayAsYouGo, Cleaned up after the last Rebublican criminals(Reagan), and in 2001 PLEADED to keep paying off the debt asRepublicans gave 30% of tax cuts
to 130,000 rich constituants, Sent Palet fulls of $100 bills to Iraq, &put Trillions into Enron
off Ballance SheetDebt. Which Obama put back into the budget.
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bryan broome
Welcome back my friends 2 the show that never ends
03:01 PM on 07/22/2011
OT
The modern Republican's interpretation of the preamble
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,
(some radical $h*t here)
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
RageVsMachine
A Bribe is a Bribe is A Bribe
01:57 PM on 07/22/2011
bohner is reaching for a larger package?
01:54 PM on 07/22/2011
Moody's just came out with a doomsday scenario.

They picked FIVE states that will IMMEDIATELY go under if the nation's credit rating is lowered...

guess WHAT?

They're ALL Tea Party run.
03:47 PM on 07/22/2011
NO WONDER THE DEMOCRATS CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE.



Breaking News from Moneynews.com

Democrats Balk at Potential Debt Limit Deal
Democrats reacted angrily to reports that the White House is cutting a deal with House Republicans to boost the U.S. debt ceiling and reduce deficits by about $3 trillion over 10 years without immediate revenue increases.
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wildcherry69
Dont push me cuz im close to the edge
01:03 PM on 07/22/2011
As of today, there is no deal. I will believe it when I see it. The public must prepare for a default.
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01:00 PM on 07/22/2011
In other words, Obama, the Republicans, and the Blue Dogs are determined to slash SS, Medicare, and Medicaid, and they won't accept any plan that doesn't do that. Never mind that they made up the whole "crisis" in the first place just to get their austerity measures passed.

I'd agree to their savage spending cuts if they'd agree to put everyone in Congress and in the executive branch on a retirement plan consisting only of Social Security and a medical plan consisting only of Medicare. Then let's see how happy they are with cuts to those programs.
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jimtodd
Unrepentant child of '60s
12:37 PM on 07/22/2011
RIP Democratic Party.
11:42 AM on 07/22/2011
One...it's NOT OBAMA'S JOB to come up with a plan it's CONGRESS'.

Two...The DEBT CEILING and SPENDING CUTS have NOTHING to do with each other. JUST RAISE IT.
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bryan broome
Welcome back my friends 2 the show that never ends
03:02 PM on 07/22/2011
Three...Obama needs to grow a set.
03:50 PM on 07/22/2011
More BS from the armchair
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garymc8
We got OBL- not gop
11:36 AM on 07/22/2011
To dan laurie: Did u forget which party got us in this mess, cause i fo (R)ACISTS DID
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Sisa
11:41 AM on 07/22/2011
Don't bother with Dan he is a republican
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garymc8
We got OBL- not gop
11:34 AM on 07/22/2011
Hey guys, STRIP YOURSELVES OF BENEFITS AND TAKE A35%CUT IN PAY, end bush welfare for the wealthy and we wont have to raise the debt limit and u can be like the rest of us $CREWED BY (R)acists
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Sisa
11:33 AM on 07/22/2011
To dan_laurie at 11:04 am. Put down the crack pipe and get yourself to a clinic. You have obviously completely fried your brain... Or go back to blogging your tripe on FoX nation. You are not a democrat by any measure... You are the one who is running with the wrong party. I can spot a republican anywhere... It's kinda like gaydar... Well exactly like gaydar.
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dan laurie
Us Not Them Finally
11:04 AM on 07/22/2011
Again, I'm a life-long Democrat, my whole life. And it's caused me and millions of other like me anguish what Obama has done. He ran on the wrong party. Anyone who still thinks he got into office with all the "little contributions" needs to wake up. Yes, OF COURSE there is no alternative on the other side -- the Repugs. But Obama should also be IMPEACHED and by DEMOCRATS, one of whom he is NOT. He can't come to a deal because he's ON THE WRONG SIDE. And the charade gets harder and harder to pull of.
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UpFromLiberalism
Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.
11:08 AM on 07/22/2011
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LEAVE BARACK ALONE!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM8l3X_7Hkg

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kidcat24
Capital is only the fruit of labor. Lincoln
12:49 PM on 07/22/2011
You Lie! Never was a democrat and never will be.
10:54 AM on 07/22/2011
I am confident a deal on raising the debt ceiling can be reached as Pres. Obama seems unfazed at selling out Democratic values in order to appease the Republicans in Congress.
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Sisa
11:38 AM on 07/22/2011
If the president sells out it's because he loves American and her people more than anything.... He is forced to literally bargain for the lives of the millions of poor and middle class Americans being held HOSTAGE by the largest TERRORIST network know the world... The GOP! they will destroy this nation to put a few pennies in their pockets..... JUST TAX THE RICH!
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jimtodd
Unrepentant child of '60s
12:40 PM on 07/22/2011
Not true. He could insist on a clean debt limit bill.
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Iam12Vote
Now With MORE Micro Bio!
10:46 AM on 07/22/2011
Personally - I begin to see the possibility of something much larger taking shape.
Mr. Cantor flipping into the back seat seems to indicate something has changed.

What if...