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Greece Debt Plan Falls Short Of Comprehensive Fix As Financial Problems Remain Across Europe

Greece Debt Crisis

First Posted: 07/22/11 07:41 PM ET Updated: 09/21/11 06:12 AM ET

A deal struck by European leaders providing debt relief to Greece has soothed fears of a fresh crisis, but the nation's ailing troubles -- and by extension those of the rest of the continent -- seem far from over.

The fundamental problems remain, experts say. Namely, the Greek economy is in a recession, and a program of deep spending cuts enforced by outside powers hinders its prospects for growth. "The problem with Greece and a lot of the periphery is they're not growing," said Win Thin, global head of emerging markets strategy at Brown Brothers Harriman in New York.

The plan handed down Thursday by leaders of the nations that share the euro provides a framework for allowing Greece to enter a so-called restrictive default -- a move that, though risky, is seen as a way to usher the nation along a path to recovery. Stocks rallied on news of the plan, which pledges a second bailout for Greece. It also aims to calm fears by expanding the powers of a European rescue fund and by outlining an orderly way for Greek debt holders to accept lower payments in exchange for a solid guarantee of their investment.

The European heads of state called their plan "far reaching" in a statement after their meeting in Brussels. But independent experts fear that the program, bold as it may be, does not solve the long-term problems facing Greece and the rest of Europe. Greece still struggles under a punishing mountain of debt, and markets continue to reflect anxiety that the scope of the crisis is larger than the European powers can manage.

"We're missing the big picture, which is: This isn't a crisis for Greece, or for Ireland, or Portugal. It's a crisis of the euro," said Silvio Peruzzo, euro-area economist at Royal Bank of Scotland Group in London.

"It buys time," he said of the plan, but added that "the market will soon return to the idea that we need to discuss default again."

Thursday's plan represents the culmination of a tense week for Europe, as the debt crisis that began in Greece appeared to be spreading across the continent. Interest rates on Italian government debt shot skyward, logging the largest spread in the history of the euro between Italian rates and the yields on relatively safe German debt, according to Bloomberg data.

The crisis seemed to deepen Tuesday when Ireland's debt was downgraded by Moody's Investors Service, calling into question that country's ability to survive financially without outside help. The costs of borrowing for all the weaker nations -- Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Greece -- were climbing to fresh highs, heaping pain on governments already struggling to get their books in order.

Financial markets were sending a clear message: Policymakers would not be able to stem this growing crisis.

And so policymakers responded. In addition to pledging an additional 109 billion euro bailout, this week's plan lays out a menu of options for investors in Greek debt. These investors, largely banks and other institutions, have the option to extend the maturities of their bonds and accept lower payments. Banks can choose among different terms for this arrangement, explained the industry group Institute of International Finance.

That technically counts as a default, and the rating agency Fitch said as much on Friday. But European leaders said they are prepared to guarantee Greek debt in order to protect banks and the broader private sector.

But that will offer only a temporary fix, said Thin, of Brown Brothers Harriman. The "haircuts" under the new plan, in which investors accept less than their original debt contract stipulates, are not enough, he said.

"They've treated the symptoms but not the underlying disease," Thin said. "In order to get Greece, Ireland and Portugal on a sustainable debt trajectory you have to have what they call hard restructuring. That's principal haircuts of 40, 50, 60 percent."

Moreover, debt markets still reflect anxiety over Europe's weaker nations. Yields on Spanish, Portuguese, Irish, Italian and Greek debt fell as the European leaders met, and kept falling when the plan was announced, reflecting a perception that the debt of those countries is less risky. But yields are still high, having fallen only to the levels of early July, Bloomberg data show.

Greece, for instance, currently must shell out about 16.5 percent of money it borrows with a 10-year maturity. Ireland pays more than 12 percent on 10-year debt. Portugal pays more than 11.5 percent. Italy pays just under 5.5 percent, and Spain pays just under 5.8 percent. All of those values are historic highs.

Even German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who is helping to lead the rescue effort, admitted the current plan won't be enough to address long-term issues.

"There are other necessary steps to take," she said at a news conference this week, "and not one spectacular result that will solve all problems."

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A deal struck by European leaders providing debt relief to Greece has soothed fears of a fresh crisis, but the nation's ailing troubles -- and by extension those of the rest of the continent -- seem f...
A deal struck by European leaders providing debt relief to Greece has soothed fears of a fresh crisis, but the nation's ailing troubles -- and by extension those of the rest of the continent -- seem f...
 
 
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01:34 PM on 07/25/2011
And let's not forget the billions (trillions?) in non-sovereign debt held by EEA (and US, UK) banks that have gone south: business/corporate, personal/retail loans and mortgages collateralised by God knows what. Sorry, I wasn't thinking; it's all off-balance sheet, so nothing to worry about.
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mbo2
12:28 PM on 07/25/2011
can't they just nuke Greece and be done with it?
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Steven Travis
Really, do you need one?
06:46 AM on 07/29/2011
An interesting thought and one which CLEARLY shows you dont understand the issue.
11:34 PM on 07/24/2011
As usual, a convoluted risky solution to a government problem is:
(drum roll please)
kick the can down the road.
That is one heck of a long road going round the world.
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westcoastsc
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhe
06:15 PM on 07/24/2011
This is nothing but a huge shake down by the upper classes who are owed the money who want the world in perpetual debt. The loan economy, opposed to the savings economy we used to have, is one that mixes indentured servitude and sharecropping. There is no difference between the mob telling someone to take this money and pay us back at this rate, or else.
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mbo2
12:31 PM on 07/25/2011
...I kinda think it's the "lower classes" that are a teeny tiny bit worried when the loans stop. And the loans WILL stop when those making the loans are told they don't get their money back. Plenty of other places for them to go without some weiner telling they gotta be all "charitable" and all and take it in the pants, cuz the big government bigots cannot manage their system.
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westcoastsc
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhe
12:36 PM on 07/25/2011
They can't just take their money off shore. Oh, what used to be illegal is not legal.

What they have you doing is believing that we cannot manage without their capital to loan to us. They have slowly changed our society from a savings economy to a loan economy where the rich just sit back and live on the interest we pay them. We need to go back. It will be a fight.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
04:55 PM on 07/24/2011
Take control of the banksters or suffer.
April22
Some experiences in life are ineffable
04:54 PM on 07/24/2011
Neither is the US Federal government's debt plan solving the real problems facing Americans.
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Michaela19762
Don't believe everything you think
10:50 AM on 07/24/2011
test
03:46 PM on 07/24/2011
testes testes one two
testes testes left right

yep, all clear
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
10:41 AM on 07/24/2011
As in any ponzi scheme, you need to reset when too many people are involved. But, politicians just don't see the big picture. They are only interested in their own legacy. It sounds alot like Obama.
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09:00 AM on 07/24/2011
The country as per the article seems to be diving into further trouble not only economically and financially but also politically and unrest throughout the country will plunge the country into a serious trouble of its survival until EU does not afford more emergency help.
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FACTISFACT
A war veteran. Finally retired
08:57 AM on 07/24/2011
Asking Bush as to what is the response of the latest plan of crusade of his Republican Party against Christians Terrorists. I suppose he has to ask AIPAC to suggestions how to proceed to answer this question after all 2012 is nearing.
The country as per the article seems to be diving into further trouble not only economically and financially but also politically and unrest throughout the country will plunge the country into a serious trouble of its survival until EU does not afford more emergency help.
11:14 PM on 07/23/2011
sent the order.
07:13 PM on 07/23/2011
Buys some time kicking the can down the road on the back of the taxpayers because the total losses are to large to social instead of putting that same money to more constructive productive use for the same taxpayers. No painless solutions at this point.

Interesting very little coverage regarding the 90% ISDA CDS restructinng for Bank of Ireland at up to 90% on 2.6 Billion Euros of Tier 1 and 2 subordinated debt.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/22/bankofireland-idUKWLB837520110722
05:09 PM on 07/23/2011
The problem?

Greece is too corrupt and has too many tax "evaders" to behave itself for the euro zone to work.

That is something the euro leaders can not fix.

THAT is the whole problem (as I have stated for years)....the euro zone is made up of different countries.....with different governments and political styles, lifestyles, financial beliefs, cultures, languages, and ways of doing things.

The euro did better than I expected in the GOOD times, but the big experiment is falling apart in the BAD times.

And don't forget all of the PIIGS....Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, and Spain ALL have financial problems.......
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
06:38 PM on 07/24/2011
F & F

You're right and on point. The issue is not who won't work but rather who wants to work and can't because corporations are just sitting on trillions in reserves. Moreover, republicans are refusing to support legislation to fund infrastructure programs badly needed in America, despite the need to borrow.

People need to wake up to the fact that it takes money to make money.

Republicans are obscene hypocrites since they scream about cutting spending and creating jobs through tax reductions. These are inconsistent in todays environment and they know it.
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nkurland
I'm going to leave this planet alive
04:48 PM on 07/23/2011
The fundamental problem is that the debts can't be repaid. When a person makes a bad loans, they're supposed to take a loss. Its time to ask the banks to do the same.
demsrsilly
Proud supporter of workplace freedom.
08:06 AM on 07/24/2011
Then you would of course have no problem with the banks never doing such loans ever again, right? That would mean the government will have to spend ONLY what it takes in. Sounds good to me, I agree with you.
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
06:28 PM on 07/24/2011
Ya, that's the way it should be. Banks should never loan to sovereign governments when those governments have the right to coin their own currency without incurring interest debt. The bank loan scam to political jurisdictions with sovereign currency rights is a Ponzi scheme that fosters perpetual debt for citizens.

True there are unscrupulous governments who would inflate their sovereign currencies but they wouldn't infect other nations with their profligacy.

No nation ever needed a privately owned central banking system.
09:48 AM on 07/24/2011
But the banks are weak. If a major European bank fails, the depositors' money is lost. If that account was Siemens' or France Telecom's payroll account, then all of a sudden there are no paychecks.
04:22 PM on 07/23/2011
"Even German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who is helping to lead the rescue effort, admitted the current plan won't be enough to address long-term issues"

At some point Greece will have to have more jobs based outside of their Government. This is not something that happens overnight, it will take years. The choices will be tough to make a switch from socialism and a Government based economy.