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'Super Congress': Debt Ceiling Negotiators Aim To Create New Legislative Body

Super Congress

First Posted: 07/23/11 11:48 PM ET Updated: 09/22/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Debt ceiling negotiators think they've hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public's unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.

This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.

Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has made a Super Congress a central part of his last-minute proposal, multiple news reports and people familiar with his plan say. A picture of Boehner's proposal began to come into focus Saturday evening: The debt ceiling would be raised for a short-term period and coupled with an equal dollar figure of cuts, somewhere in the vicinity of a trillion dollars over ten years. A second increase in the debt ceiling would be tied to the creation of a Super Congress that would be required to find a minimum amount of spending cuts. Because the elevated panel would need at least one Democratic vote, its plan would presumably include at least some revenue, though if it's anything like the deals on the table today, it would likely be heavily slanted toward spending cuts. Or, as Obama said of the deal he was offering Republicans before Boehner walked out, "If it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue."

Republicans, however, are looking to force a second debt ceiling fight as part of the package, despite the Democratic rejection of the plan. Under the Republican plan, lawmakers would need to weigh in on the debt ceiling during the heat of the presidential election, a proposal Democrats reject as risky to the nation's credit rating. "We expressed openness to two stages of cuts, but not to a short-term debt limit extension," a Democratic aide close to the negotiations said. "Republicans only want the debt ceiling extended as far as the cuts in each tranch. That means we’ll be right back where we are today a few months down the road. We are not a Banana Republic. You don’t run America like that."

The aide said that Democrats are open to a series of cuts as well as a Super Congress, but only if the debt ceiling is raised sufficiently so that it pushes past the election. "Our proposal tonight was, do two tranches of cuts, but raise the debt ceiling through 2012 right now, though the McConnell process would be one way," said the aide, leaving open the possibility that Boehner could craft a new process and distinguish it from McConnell's, which the Tea Party despises as a dereliction of duty. "Do that now with a package of cuts, and have the joint committee" -- the Super Congress -- "report out a package that would be the second tranch. Republicans rejected that, and continued to push a short-term despite the fact that Reid, Pelosi and Obama all could not have been clearer that they will not support a short-term increase. A short term risks some of the same consequences as outright failure to raise the ceiling -- downgraded credit rating, stocks plunge, interest rates spike, etc. It is unclear why Republicans have made this their sticking point."

Boehner spokesman Michael Steel argued that the inability to come to a larger deal so far left a short-term extension as an "inevitable" option. "For months, we have laid out our principles to pass a bill that fulfills the president's request to increase the debt limit beyond the next election. We have passed a debt limit increase with the reforms the American people demand, the 'Cut, Cap, and Balance' bill. The Democrats who run Washington have refused to offer a plan," he said in a statement. "Now, as a result, a two-step process is inevitable. Like the president and the entire bipartisan, bicameral congressional leadership, we continue to believe that defaulting on the full faith and credit of the United States is not an option."

Obama has shown himself to be a fan of the commission approach to cutting social programs and entitlements. Shortly after taking office, Obama held a major conference on deficit reduction and subsequently created, by executive order, The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. The White House made two telling appointments to chair the commission: The first was former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.), a well-known critic of Social Security who earned notoriety by suggesting, among other things, that the American government had become "a milk cow with 310 million tits!" Yet Obama's Democratic appointment was even more indicative of whose interests took priority: former Clinton White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles. Bowles is a member of Morgan Stanley's board of directors; an adviser to Carousel Capital, a private equity firm; and a director of Cousins Properties Incorporated, a firm with significant investments in commercial and mixed-use real estate.

Simpson and Bowles, perhaps unsurprisingly, produced a report recommending corporate and high-end tax cuts, along with cuts to Social Security, Medicare, veterans' benefits and a host of other social programs.

The commission needed 14 of 18 members to approve the plan in order for it to advance to Congress for a vote. The commission fell short, but did win a majority.

Proponents of slashing spending won't make the same mistake with a new Super Congress. Only a simple majority will be necessary.

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WASHINGTON -- Debt ceiling negotiators think they've hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public's unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security tha...
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Robert Gudzikowski
free,natural,harmless,individual
05:25 PM on 08/27/2011
even if all the problems could be solved there is no chance that gov. would accept a perfect solution that would involve yeoman farmers.
so just keep the dissent rolling and ruin shall be ours,doom baby is the new AMERICAN slogan we just need a new mentality where is FOREST GUMP when we the people need him?
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oftenlucid
Look Up "Liberal". Looks pretty good, huh?
11:50 AM on 08/14/2011
This was a trumped up crisis. Does anyone else see this "crisis" as cover for what they really wanted, the Super Congress?
12:41 PM on 08/08/2011
and liberty dies with thunderous applause.....from some.
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AristophanesJones
I am a happily negative person
01:38 PM on 08/04/2011
A surefire hit among the anti-17th Amendment crowd.
08:28 PM on 08/02/2011
Any piece of 'legislation' that comes out of this new 'Congress' must be utterly rejected... DC needs to operate within it's limits, or it by default makes itself a 'government' of traitors and criminals who have no legal right to make any decisions or laws. This is another piece of the Dictatorship that is being established...
12:54 PM on 08/02/2011
Election time cant come soon enough. The traitors that voted to put the final nail in killing our Republic will be out. This new 12 member panel will be have the power to pass laws without the public knowing about it. I say that this is treason.
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Charles L King
Retiree
04:38 PM on 08/01/2011
The USA is falling behind other countries and are being caught up by China and India because it is insisting on an antiquated developmental or economic model which makes us noncompetitive. Clinging to old world economics comes at a hefty price.

Of course, the super rich have their fingers in all these other economies as well, so they are sipping from many straws. They and their overseas interests pay more in taxes in other countries, where they export American know how, than they do at home, isn't that ironic?
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Charles L King
Retiree
04:36 PM on 08/01/2011
You can't have your cake and eat it too, and that is what American governments in general, and the Republican party in particular have not awaken to as yet. ALL the twenty plus other advanced economies in the world give their vital middle class tax payers much much more in entitlements than does the US government, but without exception they demand much much more in tax revenue from ALL their tax payers than does the American government.

60 % of the jobs in America do NOT come from big business and super rich employers, yet the Bush tax cuts were aimed at this sector of the economy. We are using the same tax philosophy in America that the Romans used in ancient times. The rich and powerful DEMAND revenue (tribute) from the poor, because they can, and refuse to contribute in proportion to their ability to do so, because no one can make them.

If you can give me another explanation for the fact that 26 or so of the industrialized nations in the world have higher taxes on the super rich in their countries than do the USA I'd be grateful. Interestingly enough, the USA rates near to 25th in the world in terms of education, infant mortality, and longevity, yet individual US citizens spend more on health care, and education than any of these other countries, where these are free for the most part.
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dahile00
Your micro-bio is empty
08:02 AM on 08/01/2011
Who keeps demanding this "Cut, Cap, and Balance" BS? NONE of the American people I know, have met and talked to!
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archstantn
I came, I saw, I conked out
12:29 AM on 08/01/2011
If the Super Committee could make recommendations that could not be amended or filibustered, that would be a good idea. If the Super Committee could vote for measures anonymously, without the hysteria of Tea Party "Town Halls" and demonstrations, for example, that would be a good idea.The Super Committee could be like a "court" within the Congress, not subject to the whims of populist movements, which obscure sound legislation.

Finally, whatever the Super Committee decided, it would be subject to Congressional approval. When you think about it further,and considering the performance of the status quo, it's a good idea.
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dahile00
Your micro-bio is empty
08:15 AM on 08/01/2011
Nice sentiment, but did you just imply that the Tea Party was a "populist" movement? If so, I must be an elitist....Flat broke, unemployed, job searching for more than a year, but still an elitist in Tea Party terms!
12:50 PM on 08/08/2011
I fully support the democratic ideals of keeping the poor stuck in impoverished conditions. At least thats what I assume their goals are based on their policies.
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marymrevis
Life is PRECIOUS! Make it count.
01:29 PM on 07/31/2011
I sarcastically said to a friend that EACH ONE of these politico nitwits from ALL PARTIES, need to give up 4 months pay and HOPEFULLY.. that should help to put some sort of dent in the debt. Hmmmm, come to think of it maybe a FULL DAMN YEAR would be better They could afford it!
10:52 AM on 07/31/2011
Economic forecasting firm Macroeconomic Advisors estimated last week that an earlier proposal for $2.2 trillion in spending cuts would slow annual economic growth by one-fourth of a percentage point through September 2015. Now the super congress is planning for $3 trillion. We need to focus on how to increase the revenue and deal with the problems of cuts.
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TFlint
01:51 PM on 07/30/2011
A Republican attempt to overthrow the Constitution, as usual.
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sloppybear16
"Dare we live, without molds"
05:09 AM on 08/02/2011
This is a bipartisan problem. Not sure why you are singling out republicans.
12:51 PM on 08/08/2011
Because his mind works in a left/right paradigm...it clouds everything he thinks about politics.
12:51 PM on 08/08/2011
Open your eyes.....if you only see 1 side of a problem, you are blind.
04:36 AM on 07/30/2011
Congress run exactly like a board room easier to control stock values used to manipulate every economy in the world. Putting the world on notice by what 24 people. This is laughable at best, we did this under a stimulus nonsense under Bush there was no check nor balance to it. Large amounts of that money just went missing. It was Super how fast that news was swept under the rug. I believe that was a 800 billion Dollar soaking for the people. Poor business needs to go out of business.
llwlknsn
Adequate words fail me.
07:30 PM on 07/29/2011
This is as UNCONSTITUTIONAL and SEDITIOUS as it gets. Let this stand because you are towing the line of the party and kiss this country Good-bye. The Plutocracy will be cemented.