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Tea Party Coalition Rejects Boehner's Debt Proposal (UPDATE)


First Posted: 07/25/11 02:45 PM ET Updated: 09/24/11 06:12 AM ET

UPDATE: 4:10 p.m. -- A coalition of Tea Party chapters and conservative lawmakers on Monday rejected the debt proposal put forward by Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), despite his efforts to sweeten the deal with provisions favored by his conservative base.

The Cut, Cap, Balance Coalition, which boasts hundreds of Tea Party groups and more than 100 GOP lawmakers in its membership, is citing two provisions in Boehner's proposal that amount to deal-breakers: its call for creating a Congressional Commission and its inclusion of a balanced budget amendment that, according to the group, is only for show.

"A symbolic vote on a balanced budget amendment at some later time minimizes its importance, as it will not be tied to an increase in the debt ceiling," reads a statement from the coalition. "A BBA that allows a tax increase with anything less than a 2/3 supermajority is not a serious measure."

Conservatives were also rubbed the wrong way by Boehner's inclusion of a "Super Congress" in his plan. The new commission, composed of 12 members from both parties and both chambers, would be granted extraordinary new powers to fast-track legislation through both chambers without it being amended. The commission would be tasked with finding a minimum amount of spending cuts before Congress could proceed to a second increase in the debt ceiling next year.

"History has shown that such commissions, while well-intentioned, make it easier to raise taxes than to institute enduring budget reforms," reads the coalition's statement.

Boehner threw a bone to the Tea Party by wrapping a balanced budget amendment and spending caps into his final debt plan. But his specific proposal to hold a vote on a balanced budget amendment after lawmakers would be asked to vote to raise the debt ceiling isn't good enough for the group.

The coalition tried to soften the blow to Boehner by saying they aren't unhappy with him, but with his proposal.

"To be clear, we are not criticizing the Speaker," the statement explained. "However, we cannot support his framework, and we urge those who have signed the Pledge to oppose it and hold out for a better plan."

Joseph Bretell, a spokesman for the coalition, told The Huffington Post he wouldn't speak for individual lawmakers, but that it is fair to say that the 51 lawmakers who signed the coalition's pledge are behind the group's statement.

"We put forward the pledge. They signed the pledge," said Bretell. "We certainly hope that having signed the pledge, they will hold out for a better plan than this one."

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WASHINGTON -- Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) will hand another win to the Tea Party on Monday when he rolls out a debt proposal to his conference that features some of conservatives' prized provisions: spending caps and a balanced budget amendment.

Boehner will pitch his latest plan, and possibly his final offering, to House Republicans during a closed meeting at 2 p.m. Details on the proposal have been vague since Boehner first floated it over the weekend; so far, reports have centered on his call for tying more than $3 trillion in deficit reduction to votes to raise the debt ceiling in two increments, by $900 billion initially and then by about $1.6 trillion next year.

But on Monday, a senior GOP aide confirmed that Boehner is adding language to require spending caps as well as a vote on a constitutional amendment that would force the government to balance its books every year. Both of these provisions are core pieces of the Tea Party-backed "Cut, Cap and Balance" proposal that cleared the House but failed to pass in the Senate last week -- after drawing strong opposition from Democrats and the White House.

Sequentially, Boehner's latest plan would require lawmakers to vote to raise the debt ceiling now and then, in a few months, require a vote on the balanced budget amendment. The second vote to raise the debt limit would take place next year. Some conservatives may not be thrilled about being asked to vote on the debt ceiling before the constitutional amendment, but by spreading out the votes, it allows GOP leaders more time to trumpet their fiscal agenda among conservatives ahead of the 2012 elections.

Boehner's move to put spending caps and the balanced budget amendment back on the table will almost certainly complicate what are already delicate negotiations going on with Democrats and the White House. Both have slammed Boehner's plan for seeking a short-term debt ceiling hike that requires two votes spread out over time. By contrast, they are pushing for a single vote now to raise the ceiling until after the 2012 elections.

Lawmakers have until Aug. 2 to move past partisan disagreements and pass something. On that date, the government is expected to run out of money to pay its bills. In the meantime, attention is already turning to the financial markets to watch for reactions to the general disarray in Congress over the issue.

Ahead of the 2 p.m. conference, Boehner signaled on Twitter that "Cut, Cap and Balance" will be heavily reflected in his latest debt proposal.

"The GOP will forge a solution consistent with the principles of the balanced & bipartisan #CutCapBalance plan that passed the House," tweeted Boehner.

House GOP leaders are expected to post their legislation online on Monday evening, which sets it up for a floor vote sometime on Wednesday.

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UPDATE: 4:10 p.m. -- A coalition of Tea Party chapters and conservative lawmakers on Monday rejected the debt proposal put forward by Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), despite his efforts to sweeten the ...
UPDATE: 4:10 p.m. -- A coalition of Tea Party chapters and conservative lawmakers on Monday rejected the debt proposal put forward by Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), despite his efforts to sweeten the ...
UPDATE: 4:10 p.m. -- A coalition of Tea Party chapters and conservative lawmakers on Monday rejected the debt proposal put forward by Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), despite his efforts to sweeten the ...
UPDATE: 4:10 p.m. -- A coalition of Tea Party chapters and conservative lawmakers on Monday rejected the debt proposal put forward by Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), despite his efforts to sweeten the ...
 
 
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brainsurgery1
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12:18 AM on 07/31/2011
As were the Vietnam protesters (although wrongly in their case) the tea partiers need to be rounded up and put where they belong - in jail for anti- American activities that have led to the obstruction of the reasonable and orderly operation of democracy. They are nothing more than belligerent unAmerican activists who want to do nothing more than disrupt the democratic process and they have succeeded because the repubs and corporate backers have given them unwarranted status. To elevate them to a recognized political "party" is foolish and puts our country at risk. It's time to stop this bunch of hypocrites and deny them legitimacy.
10:35 AM on 07/29/2011
Republicans have short, selective memories. They forget that when Bush came into office the country was running a budget SURPLUS and started to pay down the national debt. Bush gave huge (trillion dollar) tax cuts to the top 2% that we could not afford. Then he started two wars and did not ask for anyone to help pay for the cost.( 4 trillion dollars). He ran the economy into the ground which reduced tax revenues, (another trillion dollars).

The deficit issue is just another Republican ploy to try to starve the government of revenue. They are still trying to give MORE tax cuts to the top 2%.

Political discourse in this country has gotten worse with the rise of right wing talk radio and FAUX NOISE. The hate, intolerance and lack of compromise is destructive to our Democracy.
10:21 AM on 07/29/2011
The US Chamber of Commerce and the Koch brothers helped get these extreme Republicans elected. Now they have a lot to lose. They need to take the children to the wood shed and tell them to grow up.
01:39 AM on 07/29/2011
I can only hope that my fellow Americans know the truth about all this "Tea Party" bravado! This is not about the country's debt limit. It's about pushing up interest rates for the mega-rich who they serve! If the were sincere about the country's debt they would go after money they can today..ie $2 TRILLION fat dollars missing from DOD Defense spending in 2001. See more here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo...WE are very short on memory in this America. But when gut education for lets say 30 or 40 years this is what you get! Please try to remember when we choose between bad and worse leadership. "WE LIVE IN INTERSTING TIMES."
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rhuffie
09:41 PM on 07/28/2011
SAVE US JEBUS!
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rhuffie
08:04 PM on 07/28/2011
Amazing that within the context of today's republicans, John Bohner is a reasonable one.
In fact, if the rest of his caucus was as reasonable as he is, their party would now be celebrating a huge victory for their values!
So will this crisis - caused by the tea party faction of the GOP - help the right become ascendant, or is this the beginning of decline for them?
How will Americans take it?
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troutster
Fish fear me. Otherwise, I'm pretty harmless.
11:22 AM on 07/28/2011
they talk about the norquist pledge more than the pledge to uphold the constitution.
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Brian Novotny
What happened to Democracy?
02:08 PM on 07/28/2011
Treason:
Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
A betrayal of trust or confidence.
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blade1
can't we all just get along? - RK
08:33 AM on 07/28/2011
The Tea Party is a fringe group funded by billionaires. Not a coalition of millions of Americans. I seriously doubt the Tea party has a million members combined. This is why these "so call" Tea Party elected representatives signed this "pledge" not to show solidarity or loyalty to a presumed constituency but to continue to receive monies from the billionaires boys club for re-election and support from the neo-con apparatus. Republicans representatives could give a rat's a** about their constituency below John McCains middle class of 5mil!!!
02:04 PM on 07/28/2011
well they had to cancel their august rally because only 62 of 'em wanted to pay for their own way.
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Brian Novotny
What happened to Democracy?
02:12 PM on 07/28/2011
Yea, even da trailer parks gots a bad economies
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waynesmyer
08:28 AM on 07/28/2011
TO POTUS OBAMA! TELL THE TEE-BRAGGING GOPers TO JUST GO "CHENEY' THEMSELVES!!!!
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MrBadger
01:29 AM on 07/28/2011
Boehner's political career is basically over, isn't it?
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McKMN
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11:23 PM on 07/27/2011
Johnnie must be cryin' in his scotch.
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rhomsky
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10:43 PM on 07/27/2011
The tbaggerz loved this guy a few days ago. I guess it's a love h8 deal and tbaggerz have finally had enough of that boehner being shoved down their throats. That's ironic.
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John P Slevin
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09:48 PM on 07/27/2011
Those most often identified as "Tea Party" voters are holding politicians accountable for their campaign promises.

Imagine if all those self-identified "Democratic Party" voters who like to bash the "Tea Party" instead spent their time holding Democratic Party politicians accountable.

We'd have a chance to get government out of marriage, out of the Drug Prohibition rackets and out of wars in three nations which never attacked us.

But, nah, that would require actually doing something principled. It's so much easier to spout off at imaginary enemies.
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Ron Battista II
12:14 AM on 07/28/2011
I agree with you, I just want to believe that the President can do some things and there are others that are not politically feasible, especially since this is a divided government. I wanna get hyper when he doesn't deliver, but he's done a lot and that bank blowout really put the screws to progress.
08:38 PM on 07/27/2011
Cut $4 trillion over 10 years with no increases in tax rates or elimination of Medicare by taxing the $600 trillion Derivatives market. See www.howtopayoffthenationaldebt.wordpress.com