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Harry Reid Offers Debt Ceiling Bill That Resembles Mitch McConnell's

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First Posted: 07/30/11 12:12 AM ET Updated: 09/28/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) unveiled a new debt ceiling bill Friday night that strongly resembles a plan first suggested by his rival, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

The bill would cut the deficit by about $2.4 trillion over 10 years, and hike the debt ceiling by the same amount -- a key one-to-one match demanded by Republicans. It also includes a three-step process first proposed by McConnell that would let the president take responsibility of debt-limit increases.

But one item it did not contain -- and which a number of fence-sitting Republicans have hinted could ease them into a vote -- was some sort of "trigger."

A trigger is an enforcement mechanism written into the law in case Congress does not meet the deficit-reduction targets. It would guide a committee of 12 lawmakers (in effect a "super Congress"), helping it bring the budget into line. Republicans think a trigger would give that committee "teeth."

Choosing to include no trigger at all is a gamble on Reid's part. For the past few days, the main sticking point in discussions was over how lawmakers would give that committee the power to ensure its recommendations are enacted.

House Republicans added that level of enforcement by including only a short-term debt ceiling hike, saying that a second could be passed if and when the targets were being met (and a Constitutional amendment that balanced the budget was passed).

Democrats scampered around, looking for an alternative. In the end, they chose nothing at all, determining that there were simply no grounds on which they and the GOP could be satisfied -- at least for now.

"There is a closet full of triggers that people have suggested," Reid said, adding that he had lengthy conversations with Obama administration officials about them, but had no partner from the GOP side.

"We talked for an hour and a half on different triggers. I came to a conclusion we are negotiating with ourselves," Reid said.

This doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility triggers will find a way back into the legislation.

Rather, a trigger could be offered at the last minute as a means of winning a crucial GOP vote. But starting with nothing at all remains a gamble -- practically inviting Senate Republicans to shout that Democrats aren't serious about structural reforms to programs like Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he felt like some Republicans were warming up to the Reid plan, but the acrimony was high between McConnell and Democratic leaders.

McConnell offered to hold a vote immediately on Reid's bill, but Reid refused, because it would need a 60-vote majority to pass, and Democrats do not yet have seven Republicans to join them.

Reid countered on the Senate floor that he'd be happy to have a simple, majority vote, like in the House, and McConnell scoffed. "Let me say this is almost an out-of-body experience," he said.

"It is obvious to the world, there is now another filibuster," Reid shot back.

Reid and Schumer both complained that McConnell has refused lately to negotiate, and Reid said that McConnell called him Friday evening to say he would not enter discussions with him -- only with President Obama. McConnell spokesman Don Stewart countered that McConnell simply wants the president involved to ensure Obama won't reject the measure at the last minute.

According to Stewart, although there's no meeting set with Reid and his boss, staff-level talks are ongoing.

In terms of the mechanics of the three-stage debt hike, it looks like another major compromise by the Democrats, and adopts a plan first proposed by McConnell. In the scheme, Congress would give the White House the authority to raise the debt limit, while retaining only the authority to disapprove by a supermajority vote.

A first increase would be a two-part jump that would hike the debt cap by $1.2 trillion, with the first $416 billion being free from any disapproval. That step would ensure a default is avoided if the measure is passed quickly.

The Senate and House could object to the rest of that money. The next $1.2 trillion would be authorized after the president certifies that the nation is within $150 billion of the new ceiling.

From the start of the debate, Democrats have moved from insisting there be no strings attached to raising the borrowing cap to now adding $2.4 trillion in cuts and an enforcement mechanism. They've also been adamant that the hike would have to last through the election season. This new three-step model edges away from that, but since it would be so hard to stop the White House from acting, they see it as almost as good.

One senior Democrat speculated McConnell was less interested in his own idea now because he had gotten hammered by the right for it.

Democrats were also quick to point out that, while McConnell mocked the idea of a simple majority vote on the debt ceiling Friday, he reportedly pushed for one back in April as a way to let Democrats take all the blame for raising the limit, which was less popular with the public at the time.

In order for the deal to happen now, it may take the White House to sign off. It also may take one more major compromise on the trigger.

Schumer told reporters, "The problem with a trigger is this: Republicans insist that it have no revenues and we insist it must have some revenues and some [saving]... So you will not get a trigger. No one has come up with a way to bridge that gap."

The country hits the debt limit at midnight on Aug. 2, and while some reports suggest revenues have been stronger than expected -- meaning there could be a few more days of wiggle room -- the country would begin the process of failing to pay its bills as the calendar turns to Aug. 3.

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WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) unveiled a new debt ceiling bill Friday night that strongly resembles a plan first suggested by his rival, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConne...
WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) unveiled a new debt ceiling bill Friday night that strongly resembles a plan first suggested by his rival, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConne...
 
 
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05:12 PM on 07/31/2011
I think the congress, senate, and president should take pay cuts and shorter paid vacation.
Then see how much money we can save. They're obviously not working for the american people or they would have been fired by now. From what I can see its all just theatrics to them, as long as they get voted in again. Why should they care about middle class working americans who carry the rest on our backs? They have everything they want, a stellar health care benefit and a pension plan for themselves as well. Why should they question their status quo?
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03:40 PM on 07/31/2011
"Not on my watch" that's the general attitude of both parties.
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Electrum 01
And the horse you rode in on.
11:40 AM on 07/31/2011
The Democrat bill would make Reagan proud. There are few voices left who speak for the people of this country. Congrats to those who despise the US govt, this is an unparalleled victory. Dems and liberals got thoroughly mugged. The recession is the baby of the same people who will skate free and let the general public pick up the tab, so let's march merrily forward into the brave new world we've created for the 21st Century.
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drwtsn
Could I please get an upgrade to a macro-bio?
01:08 AM on 07/31/2011
We already have a trigger. It's called the 2012 elections.
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frank1946
Tell the Truth
12:40 AM on 07/31/2011
What a wonderful opportunity to close down all the Speculation and DEBTMONGERS in the
Federal System...................Say "No" to the Leverage Lizards and watch the FUN !

Viola, a 30 % Smaller/Leaner Federal Government in 6 mos. !

Yes, The End is Near ! Been there, Done That !
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12:36 AM on 07/31/2011
Reid's bill was voted down in the Senate and in the House- huffingtonpost writers are trying to steal the credit from the House republicans and give it to themselves(democrats).
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
11:37 PM on 07/30/2011
Just saw Bernie Sanders on TV and when asked if Reid's Bill should be passed, Sanders said the question everyone should be asking is, "Why should it be?" and he's right. A whole lot of hits are coming on the poor and middle class with this bill or the GOP bill. (at this point, for all intents and purposes, they're one in the same).  Sure, we may very well raise the debt ceiling and save our economic credibility but at the expense once again of the poor and middle class. The GOP gets a huge victory without any more revenues yet trillions in cuts.
12:13 AM on 07/31/2011
Dear S:
Check out the ABC reports of a tentative deal - although it sounds like you may already be aware. All that AND the Balance Budget Amendment, which is eye-wash if it can't pass the Senate. But then what gives us any confidence that it won't?
10:47 PM on 07/30/2011
TEA PARTIERS ARE A JOKE......... GOSH AMERICAN PEOPLE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE NONSENSE. VOTED FOR THEMMMMMMMMM AND NOW ARE STUCK WITH THEM.......... HEAVEN HELP US ALL...... THEY WILL LET THE COUNTRY DEFAULT TO PROVE A POINT THAT LITTLE BOYS DONT PLAY WELL WHEN THEY ARE RICH KIDS..... WHEN WALL STREET CRASHES AND ALL THE BIG SHOTS LOSE THEIR INVESTMENTS.........IT WILL HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THEM MOSTLY, CAUSE THEY HOLD STOCKS..... I BELIEVE OBAMA MIGHT LET IT HAPPEN , SO THEY CAN ALL LOSE THEIR MONEY FAST AND FURIOUS.....HE CANT GET THEM TO AGREE AND PASS THE DEBT CEILING , SO ITS TIME TO SHOW THE PUNISHMENT FOR BAD BEHAVIOR.....UNFORTUNATELY THE LITTLE MAN HAS TO SUFFER, AND OUR TROOPS MAY NOT GET PAID.... AND THE SENIORS WONT GET PAID......... REAL TROUBLE IS BREWING......... AND COMING SOON,
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dumpdemliars2
One goal...One and done!
08:38 PM on 07/31/2011
We have been in real trouble for a long time and it started the day Obama Got elected
02:24 PM on 08/01/2011
our trouible did NOT begin with obama,,,, the greatest portion of it started when republicans first got into power and has been in a steady decline since...... how can you or any other MISGUIDED REPUBLICAN , possibly blame obama, after the fiasco BUSH created..... be for real and stop the bs..... most americans are wise to the propeganda lies.....
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aforbes808
Naked is a state of mind.
10:05 PM on 07/30/2011
If there isn't any "Shared Sacrafice", I fear both parties are in for a rude awakening.
08:42 PM on 07/30/2011
Let be fair and look at this from Joe Walsh's viewpoint. The US. defaults, Congress does not get paid, Joe Walsh does not get paid, and his paycheck cannot be garnished for back child support. Joe Walsh - Tea Party Hero. One must wonder if any tax payer money went to support Tea party Joe's children because Tea Party Joe just didn't care.
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12:37 AM on 07/31/2011
Tea Party Joe cared enough to vote AGAINST the house bill that passed.
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Captjashook
Pine on Skull
04:27 PM on 07/30/2011
Rand Paul and his minion are doing this awesome imitation of an infomercial right now. Carpet Baggers.
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Captjashook
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04:24 PM on 07/30/2011
Teapers trying more cheap tricks in the Senate.
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Captjashook
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04:22 PM on 07/30/2011
Ouch Rand Paul smacked down.
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Captjashook
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04:19 PM on 07/30/2011
He said Democrat, my ears turned off.

Way to go, angry t-bagger man.
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04:15 PM on 07/30/2011
Will someone just propose a "clean" bill? This has nothing to do with the debt, if it did they would have taken the 4 trillion deal the President put forward. They just want to ruin this President. They have said this. They try to come off as deficit hawks, "bull****".
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12:38 AM on 07/31/2011
Obama does not need any help in ruining himself.