More

Defense Cuts Hold Up Debt Ceiling Deal

Boehnermcconnell

First Posted: 07/31/11 08:59 PM ET Updated: 09/30/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Multiple Democratic sources tell The Huffington Post that the level of defense cuts that would take place should a bipartisan super-committee not agree to a second round of spending cuts is one of the last remaining sticking points holding up an agreement to raise the debt ceiling.

As the deal currently stands, the debt ceiling would be increased in three separate phases. The ceiling would initially be raised by $400 billion, followed by another $500 billion hike later this year. Both of these would be subject to a vote of disapproval by Congress. (Obama could veto that disapproval, after which Congress would have to override his veto.) The third increase of the debt ceiling would be for an additional $1.5 trillion. That raise is projected to allow the nation to borrow through the 2012 election and would be tied to roughly matching savings pinpointed by a specially appointed and empowered congressional committee.

The problem is that it's not a given that the so-called super Congress will yield any legislative victories, despite the streamlined congressional process to see their recommendations passed into law. So to ensure follow-through, the current deal would lay out policies that would be enacted if the committee didn't succeed in passing the required savings -- policies that would prove both painful and compelling to those voting on the committee's suggestions.

Republicans settled on a mix of spending cuts and entitlement reforms. Democrats initially wanted tax or revenue increases to serve as the trigger, but when Republicans objected, they turned to defense cuts.

By Saturday night, the contours of the deal were more-or-less set. If the special committee failed to deliver a deficit-cutting package, there would be $1.2 trillion in cuts: half from defense spending, half from non-defense spending, including money spent on Medicare suppliers. Social Security and low-income programs such as Medicaid would be exempted.

That outline seemed to placate GOP leadership. But when they took the suggestion to fellow lawmakers on Sunday morning, they encountered pushback. Republicans wanted the ratio changed so that it would be lighter on the defense spending. This more than anything else is what's holding up the vote -- though there are other reasons, sources said. As NBC's Chuck Todd noted in Sunday night's telecast:

Everybody is waiting for John Boehner to sign off on this deal. ... It's this issue of how deep would the defense cuts be, not just in the deal itself in the first part, but also in the size of it, in the so-called trigger. You heard Chuck Schumer talk about having this sharp-edged sword hanging over the head because you're not going to have taxes hanging over the head of republicans to compel this super committee to work, the other solution that Vice President Biden and Mitch McConnell came up with was the threat of pretty deep defense cuts. Well, now house Republicans are balking and there's a lot of hand-wringing over this.

There is something telling about Republicans trying to lower the cumulative effect of the super committee trigger: It suggests they don't think the super committee will produce results. And because of that, lawmakers are doing their best to soften the fallback plan.

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
WASHINGTON -- Multiple Democratic sources tell The Huffington Post that the level of defense cuts that would take place should a bipartisan super-committee not agree to a second round of spending cuts...
WASHINGTON -- Multiple Democratic sources tell The Huffington Post that the level of defense cuts that would take place should a bipartisan super-committee not agree to a second round of spending cuts...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 203
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (5 total)
10:59 AM on 08/02/2011
The republicans so-called sticking point related to defense cuts, confirms that that they have no intention of negotiating or compromising in the future, otherwise this wouldn't be an issue. These selfish, shameless, soulless, republicans are not concerned about the soldiers or the amount of weapons we have -- stockpile is available for a number of wars, their concern is that their cronies, the defense contractors, may actually lose a penny, which would upset them decreasing their contributions and goodies to their coffers. Heaven forbid that any of that money goes into helping the middle class and poor.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
petcraft
05:52 PM on 08/01/2011
It seems as though we are spending ALOT on defense. Is it all necessary & could SOME of that great amount be cut back???? If so, we must come to some agreement & get this crisis settled.
12:44 PM on 08/01/2011
Arguing over defense spending? The Pentagon already has a bloated budget to protect us from the enemies without. Some of these enemies are entirely imaginary. Who will protect us from all our real enemies within this country? -- all the lobbyists, hedge fund managers, banking elite, over-paid politicians with "fringe benefits," as well as racists, gun fanatics, religious fanatics, etc.?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
AlteSoldier
My Micro is micro
11:34 AM on 08/01/2011
Isn't the super congress against the constitution?
photo
corte33
Educator, Musician
11:04 AM on 08/01/2011
It's sad that such a great nation needs to spend so much on defense. Do we really need new bombers, jets, submarines, and laser guided missiles? These are very expensive, and only serve as jobs programs. Who are we fighting? Some men in caves? I realize that if programs are canceled, people will be out of work, and that creates more political pressure for jobs. But the money wasted on defense could be used for alternative energy sources, so we're not dependent on foreign oil. We should also re-train workers in computer technology, so we'll need more teachers. We have to stop trying to compete with cheap overseas labor.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
laurieanichols
je pense donc, je suis
10:09 AM on 08/01/2011
This is so beyond the pale, I haven't seen any mention of revenue within the deal and the GOP has a problem with cuts in defense spending. The W.H. fact sheet points out that discretionary spending will be cut to levels not seen since the Eisenhower years. If that is the case well let's continue the homage to this republican President and honor the cuts in defense spending, he would be proud because he Himself warned us of the military industrial complex and its hold over our economy. These politicians really don't read their history, that is evident because we wouldn't still be in this mess if someone would have paid attention during the F.D.R section of history class.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
10:32 AM on 08/01/2011
JFK listened to Eisenhower, tired to do the right ting, and look what they did to him.
If you haven't read it yet, check out "JFK and the Unspeakable and Why It Matters".
Excellent book detailing exactly why JFK was killed, and it involved wars. Very strange how the scenario that was set up to start war with Cuba NOrthwoods Project) by the CIA ended up being exactly what happened during 9/11. Makes you realize who really runs the show.
01:21 PM on 08/01/2011
You are talking about a bunch of ignoramuses teabaggers who really don't have any idea of how to formulate a thought. They are brainless They depend on Norquist to tell them what to do, how to vote, whom to vote for, how to think, (they are brainless)They are like sheep and Norquist is their shepherd! Actually, he controls who should run for president! He cannot be that smart! Just think of who is running for president! "Pray away the Gay" "The Blacks Were Better Off Under Slavery" Ignoramus, Michele Bachmann, "The Cheater" Newt Gingrich, " Romneycare" who says that his plan is nothing like President Obama's care, Mitt Romney who keeps saying that he will not apologize to the Republicans for his healthcare plan in Massachusetts. Well if this is the best they have, Let's show them who are the bosses in 2012!
09:23 AM on 08/01/2011
They (democrate and republican) don't want defence cuts because they're all making money on the militery industrial complex.
photo
RMosesNJ
Looking for Gallifrey.
07:28 AM on 08/01/2011
A Brief History of the Demise of the USA:
1. Patriot Act
2. Lowest Corporate tax rate of the 10 most industrialized nations.
3. Foreign(government) money contributed to campaigns.
4. Lobbyists that increasingly write the complex laws passed by state and federal government.
5. A foreign controlled media empire that foments strife among US citizens.
6. A new legislative body that is not representational.
I could name more but I'm getting seriously depressed and angry and sad all at once.
photo
corte33
Educator, Musician
11:06 AM on 08/01/2011
Cheer up. Good post!
01:24 PM on 08/01/2011
OH, WOW! What a good description of our country! We are at the mercy of the rich, the powerful, the lobbyists and Norquist! That is not a good combination! Let's change that in November 2012!
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ejcop77
the country that I know is disappearing
05:42 AM on 08/01/2011
this a trillion dollars over 10 years. if it was a trillion dollars in 1 year or 5 years that might really be something. the main thing is the debt ceiling being raised all the rest is just numbers that nobody will keep in the end anyway. no need to get upset.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
mek0123
Merle from Michigan
04:33 AM on 08/01/2011
And, if most of the 12 selected members of this 'Super Congress' are ALEC members, they'll get their orders and follow them to a 't' anyway. That's really really smart.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
mek0123
Merle from Michigan
04:31 AM on 08/01/2011
And these same Defense Contractors end up paying NO taxes through loopholes they've had written into law by their lobbyists. Then they offshore the profits.................from the taxpayers money....................they received...............in the course of their doing business............with the Federal Government.............that the GOP seems to hate?? Rrrrrrrrrrightt!!
01:48 PM on 08/01/2011
As if the Republicans are going to give a break to the poor and the middle class! Dream on!
Remember no-bid Halliburton in charge of rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure, it was like putting a fox in the henhouse! They overcharged by billions, the Republicans had no qualms about that! As long as it benefitted a wealthy American or, in this case, a large corporation, what was the big deal? The big deal was and still is the thousands of precious lost lives, tens of thousands of young men and women maimed for life for the sake of the warmongers, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld. If any of you forgot what Rumsfeld said about the war in Iraq, here it is "I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today would last 5 days, or 5 weeks or 5 months, but it certainly isn't going to last longer than that" then on 11/14/2003 he said, "It could last 6 days, 6 weeks, I doubt six months" Then Cheney said"I think it will go relatively quickly, weeks rather than months" and don't forget "The Iraqi people will greet us with flowers"? and "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"! Ten years later, we are still there, losing precious lives, maiming precious young people, wasting money on an unnecessary war brought in by greed for oil! Shame on the Republicans!
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
pavd8
11:54 PM on 07/31/2011
defense cuts hold up the deal? so in other words, the gop would rather buy missles, but slash programs for the elderly,handicapped, veterans, the middle class, the poor, cut education spending, cut infastructure spending, etc.,etc.... defense contracting is big business, and we all know the gop favors big business.
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
JessCostello
11:33 PM on 07/31/2011
Democrats suddenly want to talk like deficit hawks when the cuts are to parts of government not near and dear to them.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Chris Herz
10:50 PM on 07/31/2011
What this "deal" represents is really an acknowledgement by our corrupt authorities that the USA are ALREADY, right now in bankruptcy. And the most stringent measures are required to deal with it. Too little, too late.
The USA failed to secure title to Iraq's oil reserves, the second largest in the world, after Bush II bet the farm that it would be able to do so. This bet is now forfeit. And the payment could not happen to a nicer people.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
10:37 AM on 08/01/2011
I'll guarantee those BushCrooks and Co are pumping oil out the back door in Iraq that is not being accounted for.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Derrik Oates
10:15 PM on 07/31/2011
This is a terrible day in america, we all know a balanced approach was needed. Also this Super commitee while it will help marginalize the powers of the teaparty. It also ensures the powers of republicans after they all get kicked out in the elections. SO unfortunately a democratic majority won't mean as much. SIGH