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Debt Ceiling Deal Angers Progressives, Tea Party Republicans

Debt Ceiling Deal Raul Grijalva

DAVID ESPO   08/ 1/11 11:26 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The newly struck debt-ceiling compromise between President Barack Obama and the Republican leaders of Congress represents a historic accomplishment of divided government, with all the disappointment that implies for the most ardent partisans inside the two major parties and out.

But it marks an accomplishment nonetheless between a Democratic president elected in 2008 and the Republicans who, Obama memorably said, handed his party a "shellacking" at the polls two years later.

The tea party conservatives won't like it, regretting it doesn't cut spending by more. "Someone has to say no, I will," Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota said in a statement emailed from Iowa Sunday night, where she was courting Republicans for her 2012 presidential bid.

Neither will the liberal Democrats, unhappy that it cuts at all. "This deal weakens the Democratic Party as badly as it weakens the country. We have given much and received nothing in return," said Rep. Raul M. Grijalva, an Arizona Democrat and co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Which means that Obama and his principal Republican antagonist, Speaker John Boehner, will share responsibility for passing it in the House.

The early political tally looks like this:

As the president demanded, the deal would allow the debt limit to rise by enough to tide the Treasury over until after the 2012 elections. And the White House emphasized that the Pentagon could face its first cuts since the end of the Cold War two decades ago.

Yet it appeared Obama's proposal to extend the current payroll tax holiday beyond the end of 2011 would not be included. Nor would his call for extended unemployment benefits for victims of the recession.

In the trade-off, Republicans would win spending cuts of slightly more than the increase in the debt limit, as they have demanded. "The White House bid to raise taxes has been shut down," Boehner told his rank and file.

Yet a conservative campaign to require Congress to approve a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution would be jettisoned. So, too, the far deeper cuts in the budget the Republicans pushed through the House.

Opponents of the Bush-era tax cuts for upper-income wage earners will be unhappy they were not eliminated.

And so on.

Yet, if approved in both houses of Congress by close of business Tuesday, the deal will permit the Treasury to pay bills already incurred by presidents and lawmakers of both parties in times of war and recession. It will probably preserve America's sterling credit rating and reassure investors in financial markets across the globe.

Stock prices rose in Asia and Europe in the hours after the deal was announced. Stocks opened higher on Wall Street as well, then faltered on a report that a key manufacturing index dropped sharply in July.

"It will begin to lift the cloud of debt and the cloud of uncertainty that hangs over our economy," Obama said Sunday night.

It would also begin to slow the sobering run-up in the nation's debt, which now stands at $14.3 trillion and climbing. And if a special joint committee of lawmakers set up in the compromise can persuade Congress to approve changes in benefit programs or overhaul the tax code, it could potentially reduce red ink by a trillion or so more.

The announcement of an agreement produced the customary flowery tributes from members of Congress to members of Congress.

"Sometimes it seems our two sides disagree on almost everything," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. "But in the end, reasonable people were able to agree on this: The United States could not take the chance of defaulting on our debt, risking a United States financial collapse and a worldwide depression."

The polling suggests Americans don't believe that's how their government normally works.

An ABC News-Washington Post survey last month found that 80 percent of those polled said they were angry or dissatisfied with the federal government. About a decade ago, it wasn't half that high.

Seeking distance from that seething voter disappointment is a prime objective for any politician.

And Obama, seeking re-election next year, tried to stand above it at the White House nearly a week ago, with default looming and Congress gridlocked. "The American people may have voted for divided government, but they didn't vote for a dysfunctional government," he said.

Boehner followed that night with prime-time remarks of his own, but his real rebuttal came two days later on the House floor.

"I stuck my neck out a mile to try to get an agreement with the president of the United States. I put revenues on the table in order to come to an agreement to avert us being where we are, but a lot of people in this town can never say yes."

It was a speech he had planned to give 24 hours earlier, part of a plan to outmaneuver Obama and the Democrats in the debt limit endgame.

But that was before the tea party conservatives and others in his rank and file – deeply suspicious of compromise – insisted he rewrite the bill.

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Eds: David Espo is the AP's chief congressional correspondent.

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Anybodyseenthepopos
אני כלום בלעדיהם
03:23 PM on 08/02/2011
Every movement needs a great Leader. The Dems (many anyway) thought that's who they'd elected in 2008. They were wrong.
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10:52 PM on 08/02/2011
And how.
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Anybodyseenthepopos
אני כלום בלעדיהם
11:03 PM on 08/02/2011
He wasn't my first choice of a leader personally. This is exactly what I thought we'd get. My instinct has proven correct. I'd rather be apologizing for being wrong...
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emma richmond
06:03 AM on 08/02/2011
Let get one thing "STRAIGHT," my group and I are going to defend the President, some of us are seniors and there 2 or 3 young people and we're loyal Democrats and Support the President, the President is right it's not perfect, but in Nov. 2011 or beyond they have a time to fix it. But let's Correct these Progressives, it makes us angry to see them out there Bashing the President, let's go back to 2010, we hope Congressman Grijalva, Maxine, Congress Cleveland, need to go back and check themselves, the President wanted to get the Debt Ceiling and teh Budget done in 2010, they ask him to wait until after the Election, fact check, we notice on Sunday Night, after the Presdient had announce that a deal had been reached, Congress Cleveland came out in front of the Camera, calling it a Devil Sandwich, he called the Sandwich a Devil Bill, it seem like the Devil was holding the Sandwich., these are the type of people who don't think for themselves, these are the same people that got in front of the Cameras and Bash the President and said he wasn't anything for the Poor, when it came out the President had gave them 4 Billions Dollars for Programs, believe me that's no Chunk Change, yesterday they said the Bill don't help Poor people, that's a lie, if they want to talk about the Devil all they have to do is look within themselves.
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trilingual
01:44 AM on 08/02/2011
Rep. Cleaver has it exactly right. We're going to regret eating this sandwich for decades to come!
12:11 AM on 08/02/2011
is that a picture of raul grijalva?the same clown that asked people to boycott his own state?he did not want tourists to come to arizona, spend their money,and create more jobs.ya that is a true liberal icon for you.
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shadowgirl52
09:25 AM on 08/02/2011
and I guess you see the teabaggers as a pricipled lot, yes?
yournext865
My micro-bio is empty
10:09 PM on 08/01/2011
MOO: what does that mean?
It is something liberals need to do to tell obama they are angry at his betrayl.
March on obama
10:02 PM on 08/01/2011
I've got an idea, this group of twisted kissing cousins should take a trip to Africa see what Ten Million starving people look like. That should put them somewhere in the middle of the line.
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shankapotomus
10:01 PM on 08/01/2011
How does a sane human vote for someone like him? Never mind they can't be sane.
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Hufrelief
All of you matter
09:35 PM on 08/01/2011
President Obama, I am with you, but what are you going to do in September, and a potential government shut down. The GOP and Tea Party will shut down the government the very first they get unless you give them what they want. Mr. President, what are you prepared to do to stop this continuous open rebellion of the GOP and Tea Party. You have proven over and over again that you are willing to give them all that they want or a version of it without them compromising at all. They will hold everything and anything they can hostage. What tools do you have to stop this Mr. President, and why are you afraid to use them?
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
08:30 PM on 08/01/2011
A couple of thoughts: First I got a good laugh from Rep. Emanuel Cleaver's quote that this is a "sugar coated Satan sandwich." I mean, that's really funny - political rhetoric at its best. Second, spoke with several friends today who are as progressive as I am. At first blush they are furious, and two said Obama had destroyed his presidency. Third, let's think about that a minute: By doing what he did, Obama might be positioning himself and the Democratic party to pull in significant numbers of independent voters in 2012. An argument for this is that the Tea Party has frightened many Americans with its willingness to allow this nation to descend into depression if it doesn't toe their line. It has also become apparent with the 'shellacking' in 2010 how very, very little the GOP cares about you and I. Last point to progressives - yes, I feel devastated, violated, horrified at the compromise. But the simple truth is Obama has moved to center and we've stayed to left. But, hey, if it's between Obama and Bachmann, who are you going to vote for? Really? We all know not voting isn't an option because look what that did for us in 2010...
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jdcrump
Conservatism: The struggle to justify selfishness
09:46 AM on 08/02/2011
Good points; here's the weakness. It will not be Obama versus Bachman; the choice will probably be between Obama and Rick Perry or Mitt Romney. Neither Perry nor Romney will stir up fear like the craziness of Bachman would. After the way progressives have been treated by President Obama and after the weakness he has shown in negotiations and his willingness to abandon Social Security, Medicare, and principled positions on extending tax cuts for millionaires when we need revenue, and taking bargaining positions (i.e. 14th Amendment) off the table early so he ends up having to give the far right anything and everything they want, expecting us to show up to support him over what some will view as a moderate Republican (different argument) who held off the TP crazies is expecting a lot.
He will hopefully be able to campaign and win our hearts again but it will be more difficult this time, especially if he continues to cater to the right.
08:24 PM on 08/01/2011
I don't like it, but it could have been worse. Now, we have to deal with making things better.
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emigholzjr
There is love and there is a cry for love
08:19 PM on 08/01/2011
This whole fiasco is a lesson to all, do not think or vote angry. As Americans we reach this emotion at the drop of a hat and every political analyst, TV adds producer and politician know it and uses it to their advantage. Please think don't react.
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
08:33 PM on 08/01/2011
Awesome! Even more than think, dig. Do your due diligence and figure out the positions and what they mean to you, your family and your community. The media loves controversy, but it is cool heads that vote the right people into office.
08:16 PM on 08/01/2011
What site is it that has the Joe Welsh child support metered total running on it and how it rises every minute?

I heard Joe want so take charge of distributing food to kids in Somalia.
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Goldshield
Retired NYPD Detective
08:08 PM on 08/01/2011
Tea Party Republicans, No that's not true Democrats are also Tea Party supporters.

To be a Tea Party Supporter you have to believe in the Tea Party principles, which are;

1. We believe politicians are there to do the will of the people.
2. We believe in less government control in the lives of the people.
3. We believe in more accountability in the politicians and the government agencies that are run by political hacks and paid bureaucrats.
4. We believe in more control and accountability in the oversight of the taxpayer’s money.
5. We believe campaign contributions of more than a set upon amount is nothing more than a legal bribe.
6. We believe both parties support’s the special interests not their constituents.
7. We do not believe in the pork barrel philosophy of the entrenched political society.
8. We do not believe in earmarks, member’s items or any of the terms the politicians can dream up to legitimize legally stealing the taxpayers money.
9. We do not believe our government should be a Government of the Party, By the Party and for the Special Interest but a government of the people and for the people.
10. We do not believe in quasi government corporations that are run by political hacks and have no public oversight or control.
08:34 PM on 08/01/2011
Goldshield, assuming your in law enforcement, as per your picture, this comment of yours appears to be a paradox.
"2. We believe in less government control in the lives of the people."
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Goldshield
Retired NYPD Detective
10:38 PM on 08/01/2011
Yes I'm a retired NYPD Detective and a artist, that picture is a self portrait of me when I was 22 and a NYPD policeman.

Let me explain the liberals who govern believe in a nanny state where they want a totalitarian style of government to control the people.All entitlement programs were designed as a narcotic to addict the recipient who received this largess to vote for the party that gives it. Conservatives believe in a smaller government to encourage free enterprise and innovation.
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Anne Mccormick
08:07 PM on 08/01/2011
well, one good thing. Michelle Bachmann and her fellow TeaParty lackeys don't like the deal. anything these people are for i am against.
07:59 PM on 08/01/2011
I have always been an America first guy. Now that I am retired and starting to collect my social security I see what the politicians and big business think of me. I have always bought American made cars for 40 years., drive extra miles and paid more cash out of pocket for American products rather than foreign products. In my eyes i have supported American business. Now I see what that has gotten me, a government bent on destroying the Social Security system, nutso Tea Baggers who don't have a clue, they don't even know this countries history; and the American businesses I have supported are all very willing to stab me in the back to take even more money from me in price increases.

No longer will I support American business products if foreign products are cheaper. That's right I'm a "Seoul Man". looking for that made in Korea label. No more Fords, GE or Pendleton shirts. Give me that Hyundai, a Yamkuseka and those silk pajamas. No more Redwing boots, I want those cheezy little black slippers. Forget about Levi's and Wranglers', I want size tags that say mucho grande and gordo on them. And for my beer, well lets try some homebrew and not even give the local distributors a dime. Yes, both parties screwed me over. My new motto: BUY KOREAN, hell even north Korean is fine with me.
DUSAA-1775
never moon a werewolf
08:01 AM on 08/02/2011
....' Now that I am retired and starting to collect my social security I see what the politician­s and big business think of me....both parties screwed me over....'
The politicians screwed you over by sending you the SS check each month? And you see the govt destroying SS by....oh never mind...
I see that you have a sexual hang-up about being tea-bagged , are paranoid that the government is out to get you and do not like the obama plan to increase inflation.
Good for you !