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Bill Gross: Economy Is At The 'Tipping Point' Of Recession

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 08/03/11 11:05 AM ET Updated: 10/03/11 06:12 AM ET

Bill Gross

The economy hasn’t slipped into recession yet, but it may be at a “tipping point,” according to Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of the financial services company PIMCO.

“We are at what we call a stall speed, in which corporate profits don’t grow, jobs aren’t created and therefore the economy sinks,” Gross said Tuesday in an interview with Bloomberg Television.

Gross’s comments echo those of Harvard University professor Martin Feldstein, who told Bloomberg Television in a separate interview Tuesday that “this economy is really balanced on the edge” and predicted “a 50 percent chance that we could slide into a new recession.”

A recent series of discouraging economic reports, including low GDP for 2011, bloated unemployment figures, lackluster manufacturing performance, and dwindling consumer spending, as well as the protracted debate over the debt ceiling and the threat of a U.S. credit downgrade, have stirred up a new round of speculation about whether the country might be heading back toward recession.

Although the government has undertaken stimulus efforts, Gross said, they have been flawed because they largely emphasized consumption, which amounts to “Chinese production as opposed to U.S. production.”

Any future stimulus programs, he said, must promote jobs and infrastructure and allow the U.S. to begin exporting again.

“At the moment, we only import something from the global economy, and that’s one of the problems that we have,” said Gross.

In the interview, Gross also spoke about the Tea Party, the limited powers of the Federal Reserve, and the contractionary effects of the debt deal.

Watch Bill Gross's segment on Bloomberg Television here:

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The economy hasn’t slipped into recession yet, but it may be at a “tipping point,” according to Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of the financial services company PIMCO. “We are at w...
The economy hasn’t slipped into recession yet, but it may be at a “tipping point,” according to Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of the financial services company PIMCO. “We are at w...
 
 
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08:27 AM on 08/05/2011
Obamanomics at its finest. Depression due to big gov spending and massive debt.
05:55 AM on 08/05/2011
THANK YOU TEA PARTY AND THE GOP .

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OUT FOR YOU SPECIAL INTERESTS , AND YOUR POLITICAL BACKS .

THANK YOU FOR ECONOMICALLY CAVING IN THIS COUNTRY .
08:28 AM on 08/05/2011
Obama and Dems wanted to add trillions to the debt. Tea Party had to fight hard just to get itty bitty cuts in spending. Obama will lead us into another recession or worse.
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HomeGrower
Independent - so both sides hate me
08:48 AM on 08/05/2011
I laugh when you suggest that the dems dont also have their own special interests. People like you are the source of our problems today; thinking their party is perfect and the other party is all wrong.

Face it...both parties make mistakes and until you can accept that, you will continue to promote the animosity that divides todays America.
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rusty apache
Don't blame ME. I voted against the Multinationals
09:02 PM on 08/06/2011
Bush crashed the economy in 2007. More tax cut are not the answer. It's time to give the progressives an onobstructed shot at fixing this GOP mess we're in.
It takes 5 miles to turn an American aircraft carrier, and a lot more than 30 months to correct a highly damaged world economy.
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USA2Sense
02:17 AM on 08/05/2011
THANK YOU - CONGRESS!!!
04:55 PM on 08/04/2011
Bill Gross speaks.... "avoid investing in America". You gotta love these billionaires whose only concern is how much money they can make. How many jobs did you create last week.... in America?
03:23 PM on 08/04/2011
When you have things like this: http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/epa-proposal-would-stymie-operation-of-green-profitable-mill_2011-08-03.html, it is no wonder that we are in the crap we are in.

So much for the EPA "protecting" the environment. Now they just follow the leader and kill jobs.
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Gerald OHare
Retired guy living in the great state of N.J.
03:07 PM on 08/04/2011
Why doesn't everyone just be honest and admit that this is a depression. Everything that happened including some scary weather happened during the Great Depression. Remember they had the dust bowl and now we are in serious heat waves. The only difference is the business guys aren't jumping out of windows. There are no quick fixes but this is going to take a long time to work our way out of this current depression. Some companies are making record profits like GM and Exxon during this same depression. There is a complete failure of leadership among Republicans and Democrats right now and that is a real bad situation. At least FDR showed leadership during the Great Depression. Some bold steps need to be taken and we really need to stop the wars we are spending money.
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rusty apache
Don't blame ME. I voted against the Multinationals
09:05 PM on 08/06/2011
I feel it too, but they don't want the herd to panic.
We need another FDR, not these Hoovers we've been stuck with.
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mweberhbr
obama out 2012
10:20 AM on 08/04/2011
id say we have tipped the stock market is down almost 1000 pts in a week. We are at record unemployed record food stamps etc.. Nothing looks good.
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04:23 PM on 08/04/2011
maybe from where Bill is it dont look like a recession , but from where many is living it looks like 1 too them! Many are eating on food stamps that never have before ! many are not getting any work or not many hours ! Many are saying no too their kids more these days! Obama , the people are hurting! We are running out of ideas ,and hope! You need too serve up some hope for us!!!
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cfluffy57@aol.com
NOBAMA2012
06:37 AM on 08/06/2011
Hmm, all in the past 3 years. Id say that America needs a real president.
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rusty apache
Don't blame ME. I voted against the Multinationals
09:10 PM on 08/06/2011
The first crash in this post modern depression was under Bush.
Fox news will not tell you that the economic freefall was thwarted under Obama, and restarted with tea party tomfoolery with the debt cieling. No more lies for the GOP.
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Botany5000
10:18 AM on 08/04/2011
AND
Obama is still heard using those lingering words: "It's all Bush's fault!"

That will fix everything.
08:29 AM on 08/05/2011
That is because he does not have a clue about what to do.
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Botany5000
09:11 AM on 08/05/2011
That is true of most everything he does.
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rusty apache
Don't blame ME. I voted against the Multinationals
09:15 PM on 08/06/2011
And obstructing JOBS will?
So what you're saying is that the buck stops with Cheney?
News flash!!!
Bush did not keep over 3,000 Americans safe on 9/11
Where are the jobs from the tax cuts from 10 years ago?
Repeating lies no longer makes them so anymore....
09:52 AM on 08/04/2011
you people quoting the stock market need to know, the market is "not" an indicator of our economy. They are forever detached under the present guidelines. Corporate profits do not translate into a healthy U.S. economy. One word, globalization..
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tigerianwinter
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04:44 PM on 08/04/2011
No, the stock market is an indicator of consumer confidence. So, it's kind of like an emergent indicator of the confidence in the current state of the economy. So, it is an indirect indicator.
05:36 PM on 08/04/2011
not to fully disagree with you tiger, IMO the market is even disengaging from such indicators as consumer confidence as well. Looking out on a forward horizon, if the confidence level was a large factor the Dow would be below 10k. I don't see too much imperial evidence of true confidence in our economy/purchasing on a large scale looking forward & investors holding on to their portfolios are holding their collective breath profits hold up. This of course is my opinion & we both know such "reported indicators" when positive help to drive the market upward. I hope at least that holds up..
09:43 AM on 08/04/2011
the economy is suffering from confidence psychosis. It's now trendy to be frugal & nobody believes in this leadership or lack thereof. This political experiment has doomed the U.S.
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Botany5000
10:21 AM on 08/04/2011
How true...
Obama is a menace.

Even if it were true that he didn't make things worse,
but he has,,, terribly worse,
the simple fact that he is now the poster boy for failure means
he has to go.
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lhanderson86
05:25 PM on 08/04/2011
Congress enacts economic policy. I think they deserve a little bit of the blame too.
09:18 AM on 08/04/2011
Tipping point is right...tipping in the wrong direction due to TOO MUCH SPENDING in Washington, D.C. !!! Wait until the stock market takes about a 45 - 55 % drop in the next 6 - 8 months...THEN you will see some 'tap dancing' and finger pointing in D.C. Hold on folks, it's going to be a terribly rough ride!!!!!
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ztck5356
When in doubt, Google it.
06:40 PM on 08/07/2011
Where was your indignation when Bush was spending all the surplus, and then getting blank checks and debt ceiling approvals for his 8 years? Hypocrite.
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mc81360
3rd Bn 60th Infantry vet
09:13 AM on 08/04/2011
Steve Wynn said that this is the worst president ever and at the same time his company has recorded record earnings .lol.
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jdshaw
08:46 AM on 08/04/2011
Thanks to the House Tea Party terrorists and our weak President we are no longer in tipping point mode. It's called a recession. Confidence was broken as a result of this debacle.
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mc81360
3rd Bn 60th Infantry vet
09:01 AM on 08/04/2011
This is what happens when people stay home when it comes time to vote .If the dems held out they would be right but if the economy completely collapsed it could have caused a panic and maybe a run on the banks .Plus the dollar would have been worth about 25 cents by now ..
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mweberhbr
obama out 2012
10:22 AM on 08/04/2011
you mean thanks to the left wing radicals
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Levonsky
a fan of enlightened self interest
08:44 AM on 08/04/2011
"We are at what we call a stall speed, in which corporate profits don’t grow, jobs aren’t created and therefore the economy sinks,”

See this is why you can't trust economists. Corporate profits have grown- by cutting jobs and the corps have created jobs- overseas. The last part is the only truth-that the economy stinks.
Am I going to believe him or my own lying eyes?
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mc81360
3rd Bn 60th Infantry vet
09:10 AM on 08/04/2011
Corporate profits are at an all time high .They bring in guys like the fictional Gordon Gekko and dump workers by the truck load and then move overseas and pay people a couple bucks a day .At the same time they take corporate welfare from the USA and like GE pay no tax .Must be nice .
08:36 AM on 08/04/2011
I believe the Fed should be closed. There are exsisting programs in place, example is the treasury. I believe the fed was created to print more cash when the government needs additional cash and the big banks need a way of getting cash with out going through Congress.

Is PIMCo guy telling his customers that he supports cuts in social security, would this be his sales plan to get the money from social security over to the bond fund for his company.