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Kelly Thomas' Death Sparks Questions About Police Training

AMY TAXIN and GILLIAN FLACCUS   08/ 6/11 12:07 AM ET   AP

Kelly Thomas Death

FULLERTON, Calif. — A second City Council member is calling for the resignation of Fullerton's police chief following a fatal confrontation between a mentally ill man and six officers.

Councilman Bruce Whitaker told the Orange County Register on Friday ( ) that he's concerned Chief Michael Sellers hasn't taken a more public role in his department's response to the death of 37-year-old Kelly Thomas, which has provoked outrage in the college town southeast of Los Angeles. http://bit.ly/pIiRY7

Whitaker joins Councilwoman Sharon Quirk-Silva in calling for Sellers to step down.

Sellers said in a statement that the incident has been a tragedy for the community, and that an investigation into what happened is ongoing.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

Police should have been intimately familiar with Kelly Thomas and his history of mental illness.

Thomas had symptoms of schizophrenia and a 16-year string of arrests for everything from assault with a deadly weapon to public urination to jaywalking. But somehow, things ended differently this time.

Six officers who were trying to search Thomas' backpack after reports of break-ins at a Fullerton, Calif. transit hub got into a violent fight with the 37-year-old. He later died of severe head and neck injuries.

His death has provoked outrage in the college town southeast of Los Angeles and raised questions about how well police in Fullerton and elsewhere are trained to deal with the mentally ill.

Across the country, there is no rule for how much training, or what kind of training, officers should undergo. Since the mid-1980s, increasing numbers of departments have put some officers through a special training program to learn how to diffuse situations involving the mentally ill.

These so-called crisis intervention teams are often borne out of deadly incidents in which a mentally ill suspect dies in police custody or an officer is killed by a mentally ill person.

"No police officer would believe it is appropriate to kill somebody who has a mental illness," said Melissa Reuland, a consultant to the Council of State Governments Justice Center who researches this issue.

When it happens, "it is often because there has been a lack of the appropriate tools to deescalate the situation," she said.

Fullerton officers frequently deal with the homeless because a major cold weather shelter is located in the city.

On July 5, Thomas was sitting on a bench at a transit hub where homeless people congregate, when the officers arrived. Police said he ran when they tried to search his backpack and resisted arrest.

A bystander recorded the incident with a cell phone. A bus surveillance tape showed agitated witnesses describing how officers beat Thomas and used a stun gun on him repeatedly as he cried out for his father.

The police department has called the case an isolated incident and put the six officers on administrative leave. The FBI and the district attorney's office are investigating.

The prosecutor's office said the agency is reviewing three videos of the confrontation: two tapes shot by bystanders and another from a police surveillance camera that was fixed on a light pole at the bus stop. They also have the surveillance video taken from the bus that pulled up minutes later.

"There are certain things you can see and there are certain things you can't see. I'm not going to go into specifics, but no video will ever capture everything," said Susan Kang Schroeder, chief of staff for the district attorney's office.

The agency will not release the police surveillance video because of the ongoing investigation, she said.

Sgt. Andrew Goodrich, the Fullerton police department's spokesman, could not say if the officers involved in the altercation knew Thomas, but the transit hub is around the corner from police headquarters and frequented by homeless people.

"Many of our officers were familiar with Kelly Thomas like they're familiar with many of the other homeless people in our town," he said.

On Friday, the National Alliance on Mental Illness urged the city to review its officer training programs and involve individuals and families who live with mental illness in the process.

Fullerton officers don't undergo a training program specifically dedicated to dealing with people with mental illness, Goodrich said. The department holds 30-minute in-house briefings before patrol shifts begin and Goodrich said the department would spend several sessions on mental health issues in a six-month period.

About a dozen officers from the 145-member force have received more extensive training on mental health issues. After Thomas' death, the department is taking a closer look at its training program, Goodrich said.

Some agencies send officers to weeklong training courses on the subject. Some programs have been expanded to the state level, such as in Utah, Ohio and Florida, but not in California.

Making the training more realistic – instead of a lecture with Power Point slides – makes a difference, Reuland said.

Trainers have officers wear headsets playing aggressive voices while they perform basic tasks like buying a soda to understand the world from the perspective of someone who is mentally ill.

Actors or mental health professionals simulate real life scenarios officers might face on the beat.

The program dates back more than two decades to Memphis, Tenn., after a police officer fatally shot someone who suffered from mental illness. Since then, crisis intervention teams have been expanded to more than 2,000 locations, said retired police Major Sam Cochran, who helped start the program and is now promoting it nationwide.

In California, police departments in San Jose and Oakland train officers under the program, and San Francisco is developing a team of core officers who can be summoned to respond to someone who is mentally ill.

The Los Angeles Police Department gives all officers an 8-hour training course on mental illness and has given more than 1,000 a more extensive 40-hour training course, said recently retired Capt. Rick Wall, who coordinated the department's mental health program.

The agency also pairs up a plain-clothed officer with a social worker in specialized teams to respond to calls related to mental illness in the hopes of connecting individuals with the services they need – not just locking them up, he said.

The program has been successful and has helped defuse potentially dangerous confrontations, Wall said, but cautioned that training can only go so far.

"The reality is, the best programs, even the best trained officers, will have those encounters with persons whose mental illness is so severe at that particular contact that it is going to be violent," he said. "There is no magic wand."

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Taxin reported from Santa Ana. Associated Press writer Thomas Watkins contributed to this report from Los Angeles and Garance Burke from San Francisco.

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08:57 PM on 08/14/2011
Peaceful protests are being held every Saturday from 9:00 am to 3:00 pm in front of the Fullerton, CA police dept. at 237 W. Commonwealth (cross street Harbor). Candlelight vigils same day, from 8:00 pm to 10:00 pm. Please join us. You can contact www.ktmf.org for info and check out http://www.facebook.com/groups/JusticeforKellyThomas/
12:09 AM on 08/11/2011
it s interesting that the Police dept , the DA are always very prompt in releasing any and all video of car chase , therefore securing a harder conviction for the driver and occupant , but are not willing to release any video from the overhead camera , from the bus , from the police cruiser . Murder is murder , they are a disgrace to the unifiorm.
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dbrett480
01:47 AM on 08/11/2011
It actually is rare for police to release videos that they take of car chases. The video that you see is most likely taken from news helicopters. There are strict limits to what the police can release.
sanddc
Man may think he rules -God is still in charge..
07:09 AM on 08/08/2011
The only different in these cops and the ones convicted recently in New Orleans. There are more eye witnesses and recordings than they had in NO.
05:35 AM on 08/08/2011
The 'State' hospitals that used to house the mentally ill have closed one by one over the years stating it was because of the 'rights' of mentally ill. It was because of the $Dollar$ it cost to house them, not because anyone gave a rats a** about their rights. So, many of them are better off living in the streets? Being victimized or victimizing others? This is the way some who are upholding the law deal with a mentally ill person now. What a sad and shameful state of affairs this country is in.
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01:53 PM on 08/07/2011
this was a tragedy and horrific. the police should be put under the jail. i wish that all such victims of thug police would get this much media attention and not just the white victims. the police frequently, brutally kill people of color in SoCal and it gets little to any attention.
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12:08 AM on 08/08/2011
just to be clear, so the crazies don't start going on the race tangent...

ALL instances of the police slaughtering/murdering citizens of ALL races should get maximum media exposure.
01:23 PM on 08/07/2011
This is not the first time that officers in Fullerton have beaten a suspect. My friend witnessed such a beating. He woke up to sounds of a beating, and looking out of his bedroom window at street level, saw that it was police officers beating a man. This was back in the late 70's. So this behavior on the part of Fullerton police is nothing new. I am appalled at the lack of restraint in these six officers. We all need to remember that mentally ill people are human beings, that their illness is not their fault, and better training for police officers everywhere should be priority number one after this latest incident. What really breaks my heart in this story is the fact that this victim was asking his daddy for help, yet the officers continued their assault like a pack of wild dogs. These men should be fired and tried for murder, plain and simple.
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02:07 AM on 08/07/2011
I don't think the issue is with mental health training, but with use of force training. Since Thomas was still breathing once he was taken to the ground (we can hear him shouting after all), the department needs to look at how they train multiple officers to deal with resisting subjects that are on the ground. All bets are off if the subject is standing and actually fighting with officers, but when he has been subdued (and there is no evidence of any weapons), the level of force should lessen, not increase as appears to be the case in this tragedy.

Basically unless someone is on PCP there will not be a need to continue to fight with someone who is already on the ground.
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12:04 AM on 08/07/2011
A very close friend lives with schizophrenia, and Mr. Thomas death has really shaken me. It is a cruel disease - paranoia has become a cartoon word that cannot portray the gut wrenching fear that persons with SZ, even when medicated, can experience. We should be outraged, yes, but part of the problem is the lack of ongoing services (case management, supportive housing) for persons suffering from a mental illness. The occasional poster on these threads wants to return us to a time where all us crazies (I am unashamedly bipolar) are locked up and warehoused for years, just for the crime of being alive. The mental health systems in various CA counties have been gutted so there is no therapy, little medicating and virtually no long term case management and supportive housing. Persons with SZ CAN (and do) thrive IF they have a safety net. It doesn't have to be this way, but our culture has already decided to dispense with the most vulnerable among us.
12:47 AM on 08/07/2011
Moonflower - Don't I just know it. Since I have been at my clinic, Pacific Clinics, it it like an annual trial by fire- the slashing of the funding (thanks Arnie), and the subsequent letting go of mental health professionals. It is not only nerve-wracking for staff, but also clients, because, just forget about becoming a client - they can't even keep the clients they currently have. There is just no funding to support the staff to serve clients.
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09:43 AM on 08/08/2011
Very well said. I have PTSD and people who do not live with it cannot possibly understand the emotional rollercoaster any person with mental illness lives on. We are the most vulnerable and society will prey upon us until we begin to speak out. I love to see people speak out about it, show them we are unafraid and will no longer be stigmatized for being humans. Should we dispense with those who are diabetic? Patients with cancer? Broken bones? No? Because there is no difference. People will mental illness have an unseen injury. That is all. Mentally ill individuals, everywhere, are thrown to the wolves. Safety net makes all the difference in the world. Personally, I am tired of seeing mental illness perpetuated as a flaw, but I am also realistic. We live in a world of cruelty. I have heard people called "nuts", "crazy", "Psycho" and made fun of because of mental illness. The older I have gotten, I have learned to chalk it up to ignorance and overlook it. People who make fun of those who are different have been taught no better. Police officers should be required to take special training to deal with not only the mentally ill, but also special victims and circumstances. Compassion and knowledge is key in these types of situations.
11:59 PM on 08/06/2011
AP: I can't believe how you played down this story, which I have followed daily, along with hundreds of others on the Internet. You wrote about it like the police barely bothered him! Did you look at his photo from the hospital? 6 Police beat this man to death -- you can hear him on the Video begging them to stop.
10:56 PM on 08/06/2011
I recently did a 911 for a young man walking up a steep sidewalk here acting very bizzarely waving his arms and meandering in and out of the road. I reminded the dispatcher that heat stroke, mental health issues and a Diabetic emergency could all look just like this and to ask the officers to go forward carefully. I heard her faithfully repeat my instructions over the radio link. I stayed on the scene in my car and observed him as ACPD approached him with "Sir, do you feel OK let's get out of the road we are here to help you." This worked out ok - in neighboring Fairfax Co VA about 8 years ago 6 cops from the McLean VA substation encounterd a man in a Diabetic episode and they worked him over with night sticks until the ambulance got there. He was very damaged as a result - redneck cops can do a lot of damage. Recently retired mental health counselor tells me even in the best of circumstances he has found PD to be clueless about mental health problems and how they Present Themselves in Suspects. One of his tasks had been to debrief PD after complaints over behavior in these situations.
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02:03 AM on 08/07/2011
I'm not sure how officers are trained in VA, but in CA they receive extensive training on dealing with the mentally ill. The department I work for also has a system where a beat officer will have a mental health clinician ride along with them and respond to all calls involving the mentally ill.
07:56 AM on 08/07/2011
That is excellent - here in ACPD they do have some training - the response time on my call to help this guy was less than 90 seconds. That is a typical response time in Arlington Co VA, ( 26 square miles) on a serious call. Proud of them. Subject presented as perhaps intoxicated, but was in conversation with himself and within 1000 feet of a half way house in a prime residential neighborhood. Addition of MH worker would have added 15 min. Some officers who volunteer get a designation for their uniform after specific training. Fairfax Co VA, next door is still pretty deep in old school cops. Virtually all are rude, border line clueless etc. Arlington has some young officers unsure of % that are confusing Commanding Presence with Must Be Rude. Predominant culture pretty professional though. Proximity to 100's of security risk locations no doubt causes hyper vigilence but we can always improve I say. Nice to hear from you dbrett480.
07:38 PM on 08/06/2011
I really like the idea of the officers listening to the tapes of the aggressive voices--they can get a sense of what a person with schizophrenia has to contend with. Hopefully this will lead to empathy and translate into more gentle care.
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07:16 PM on 08/06/2011
It's about how we treat mental illness also. This is more than just one city police department problem, this goes on everywhere. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/09/man_who_killed_new_orleans_pol.html In this case, the officer didn't have a chance and died.
06:43 PM on 08/06/2011
Tonight at the Santa Ana Artwalk
A few artists have made a dedication Altar for Kelly Thomas and it will be available for anyone to view and pay their respects.
If you are interested in honoring a life please stop by and feel free to let anyone else know.
Thank you.

Santa Ana "Art Walk" -Santora Arts Building
207 N. Broadway
Santa Ana
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06:41 PM on 08/06/2011
I hate corrupt cops every bit as much as I hate terrorists.
07:52 PM on 08/06/2011
corrupt cops are terrorists, what ever happened to protect and serve?
sanddc
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07:11 AM on 08/08/2011
Please tell me the different so I can see what group I hates the most?
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05:40 PM on 08/06/2011
Where's the video? Three people shot video and none of them have been posted?
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01:55 PM on 08/07/2011
one of the videos was posted here on hp when it happened. it was on youtube. the others are likely there too.
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03:13 PM on 08/07/2011
Thanks. I expected a link in the article.