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Feds Turn To Hackers To Defend Nation In Cyberspace

Government Cyber Hacker Recruiting

First Posted: 08/08/11 02:00 PM ET Updated: 10/08/11 06:12 AM ET

LAS VEGAS -– In the sea of mohawks, piercings and tattoos, they stood out like uninvited guests. But the federal agents attending the hacker conference held this past weekend were not there to blend in.

They were on an urgent mission: to try to end the severe shortage of cybersecurity experts working for the federal government.

As cyber attacks continue to increase in both number and scale, the government has launched a massive recruiting effort to hire computer-savvy employees who can help defend the nation in cyberspace.

But the push to build the ranks of cyber experts faces challenges, including long waits for security clearances and a hacker community that has traditionally viewed the government with distrust.

The recruiting effort was on full display this weekend at DefCon, the world's largest hacker conference, where officials from the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security and the National Security Agency mingled with 10,000 of the world's best code crackers and extolled the virtues of government service at a panel called "Meet the Feds."

"There are folks here who know how to circumvent security measures," said Daron Hartvigsen, a special agent in cyber crime investigations and operations for the Air Force who attended the conference. "They are part of the skilled workforce we want to reach out to."

The hiring push comes as threats of cyber attacks and cyber espionage are increasing. More than 24,000 files containing classified information were stolen from the Defense Department this spring by foreign hackers. Last week, the security firm McAfee revealed a widespread cyberspying operation from an unidentified country that focused largely on the United States, including six federal government agencies and 13 defense contractors.

THE NEXT 'MANHATTAN PROJECT'

It is unclear how many cybersecurity experts currently work for the government. But officials say the pool of qualified applicants is far too small to meet the demand.

Officials have said the federal government needs 10,000 to 30,000 cyber experts. But in 2008, there were only about 1,000 people in the nation with the technical skills to defend the country in cyberspace, according to Jim Gosler, founding director of the CIA's Clandestine Information Technology Office. A report published last fall by the Center for Strategic and International Studies found that "well under 200" people were graduating each year with the cybersecurity skills needed to work for the government.

In response, the United States has launched a massive cyber recruiting effort that has been called this generation's "Manhattan Project,” setting up camps and holding cyber competitions for teenagers and offering scholarships, internships and jobs in cybersecurity to young adults.

Such efforts are meant to make up for a long history of failing to encourage computer-savvy children and promote science, engineering, and math.

“Unfortunately we have this stereotype that people who are interested in computers at a very early age are nerds and therefore are worthless,” said a DHS official who asked not to be identified. “We are graduating more performing arts majors than engineers and pushing kids away from the hard sciences. We’ve dumbed down the education in this country.”

Meanwhile, U.S. adversaries are busy preparing for the future cyber battlefield. North Korea has established a recruiting system that identifies child prodigies at an early age and puts them on a path to becoming "cyberwarriors" for the government.

A DEBATE OVER PREPARATION

As the government searches for the next generation of cyber experts, there are differing views over how to train them and where to find them.

Some believe they should be groomed at the growing number of colleges now offering programs focused on cybersecurity. At the University of Maryland, students interested in cybersecurity take a holistic approach, studying not only computer engineering, but also psychology, criminology and public policy.

This allows them to understand both the technical elements of cybersecurity and the personal motivations of hackers, said professor Michel Cukier, associate professor of reliability engineering at the university.

"Cybersecurity has been seen as a purely technical problem for a long time," Cukier said. "But if you're looking for people to come up with security solutions that address the human component as well, these students have a good chance of helping."

Yet some experts say four-year college programs will take too long to meet the current demand for government employees to defend against cyber threats.

"If I went to many of my colleagues that are generals and I said to them, ‘Sir, we’re going to enter the battle tomorrow and we are out-manned one to ten,’ I don’t think his response to me would be ‘Well, great, we’re going to create a four-year college curriculum and we’re going to fill the gap," Lynn Dugle, president of Raytheon’s intelligence information systems business, said at a conference earlier this year.

Dugle said the government is looking for cyber experts in all the wrong places. Raytheon, which has government cybersecurity contracts, recently hired a high school dropout who worked at a pharmaceutical plant and spent his nights displaying his hacker skills online, where he impressed Raytheon recruiters, Dugle said.

'NOT YOUR NORMAL EMPLOYEE'

Such unconventional recruiting methods are crucial to finding the best and brightest from the hacker community, said Johnny Long, a famous hacker. To hire the most talented hackers, the government needs to drop educational requirements and recruit based on hacking skills alone, he said.

The government would be better served by allowing contractors –- who already do a large amount of government cybersecurity work -– to handle recruiting because hackers believe working for contractors is "not as creepy" as working directly for the government, Long said.

That is because hackers often view the government skeptically, primarily because they see federal agencies pushing for laws that put other hackers behind bars, Long said. The government has "cast a dark cloud over the hacker community," he added.

Even so, both the government and contractors have hired numerous hackers over the years. Jonathan Ripshy Duncan, 23, said he once worked in cybersecurity for a government contractor, but would only do so again if given more freedom.

"My job task was the exact same thing every day," Duncan said at DefCon. "If I found something interesting, I couldn't do anything about it. I had to report it and that was it."

Kevin Broumback (left) and Jonathan Ripshy Duncan said they would like to work for the government, but expressed concern about acquiring security clearances and job restrictions

Duncan's frustration with government work is not uncommon among hackers. The government has done a poor job of managing them by requiring that they adapt to its restrictive environment, Long said.

"Hackers are not your normal employees," he said. "They have different work habits. They sometimes work odd hours. They're skipping lunch. They don’t want to show up in a suit. If you let them operate the way they operate best and don’t put all these restrictions of them, you're going to get a great employee who is loyal."

LONG WAIT FOR CLEARANCES

Even if federal officials can persuade hackers to work for the government, there can be roadblocks to acquiring a security clearance.

Many people with the necessary cyber skills are not U.S. citizens and therefore do not qualify for security clearance, according to experts. And during the financial downturn, many federal employees were denied or lost security clearances due to financial issues, said Evan Lesser, director of ClearanceJobs.com. Filing for foreclosure or bankruptcy, having a spouse lose a job or having a diminished 401k are all viewed as internal security threats.

Those who do qualify for clearances can face long waits. Thirty-five percent of federal employees say it took three to five months to get a security clearance, 31 percent of people said it took between 6 to 11 months, and 13 percent said it took a year or more, according to a recent survey by ClearanceJobs.com.

Because they are handling classified information, government cybersecurity workers often require the highest levels of security clearance, including lengthy background checks and sometimes a polygraph test. Across the federal government, there is a backlog of between 5,000 and 10,000 employees waiting for security clearances, Lesser said.

"A lot of companies who win government contracts need cybersecurity candidates yesterday,” he said. “When you have such an intense need, two months seems like forever.”

Back at the hacker conference, Kevin Broumback, 24, a computer expert from Cincinnati, said he would love to have a job with the federal government because it would mean a steady paycheck with benefits, but he did not think he could acquire a security clearance based on his history.

"I know for a fact I could never gain a top-secret security clearance," said Broumback. "I'm never going to get a job with the government. It's just not going to happen."

The government would prefer to hire young computer experts because they typically don’t have a history of financial woes, messy divorces or foreign travel that can slow down the clearance process, Lesser said.

For this reason and others, federal officials also participated in the first annual DefCon Kids conference, which ran concurrently with the larger hacker conference this weekend in Las Vegas.

In between cracking codes, picking locks and building robots, children sat through a panel discussion with federal agents. Sitting in the front row, Schuyler St. Leger, 11, of Phoenix, who taught himself programming code and built his own home security system, shouted questions to the panelists.

Schuyler said working for the government someday “could be very interesting.”

“You can work with high-level people and do things that can be very important,” he said.

Afterward, Schuyler posed for pictures with the federal agents –- the first contact in what the government hopes will be a future career defending the nation in cyberspace.

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LAS VEGAS -– In the sea of mohawks, piercings and tattoos, they stood out like uninvited guests. But the federal agents attending the hacker conference held this past weekend were not there to blend...
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10:58 AM on 08/10/2011
criminals to consultants
03:29 PM on 08/09/2011
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Governments globally fear their own people, and the people fear their own governments. This bridge appears have burned down long ago of trust. If these hackers transforming into their NSA, NCSC.mil, and NRO sheeple personality type image then they will all be ok.

Difficult wrapping the mind around a government who is set in their wrinkled old cedar-box think tank ways trying to upgrade it's narrow minded analog social life style into a digital plug-in play of the present day. Appears impossible they are capable to hire any of us.

I support all past to current U.S.administrations regardless and this seems far fetched unless conformance is met.

Police State is the Messiah,
Federal Martial Law is GOD,
Eugenics is for the Global Greater Good,
Transgenics is the cleansing, the purification, the perfection, and as science is GOD.
Obedience or die, or perhaps not if decided not to..
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PenguinLinux
got root ?
11:31 AM on 08/09/2011
The circle does not fit in the square. Jam and cram as you may, it will never truly fit. So it is with hackers too. The problem is when you take people without limits and try to limit them a few things happen; none of which are good for anyone involved.

Government does not solve problems, it subsidizes them....and it most certainly never hires or elects the cure. Even if it did, they would restrict it to the point where it's worthless and useless........ then it will do a study on why exactly it failed, which that study will then be subsidized.
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Lex Anton
Freedom doesn't exist in America.
10:52 AM on 08/09/2011
Don't work for them.
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Pandoras Folly
This Micro-bio is of legendary quality
09:13 AM on 08/09/2011
So you have an engine and you need to upgrade a part on it with a new one because the old one vulnerable to rust, but the engine is powering a hospital so you can't turn it off. GO!

Similarly this is the problem we have with upgrading the IT security on our infrastructure, that power plant can't be shut down for weeks in order to install test and reconfigure then start it back up. sometimes the software has to be meshed in while the systems running it is one of the hardest IT upgrades to do, if any of you can figure how to do it more easily you will make a lot of money.
08:44 AM on 08/09/2011
Many, many creative people smoke a little pot to help get their creative juices flowing. To get a Fed job, you have to pass a drug test. Not only will the government NOT give these folks a security clearance because of our arcane and outdated drug laws, but those same folks aren't even INTERESTED in working for a government -or industry- for that matter- with such hypocritical "values".
03:10 AM on 08/09/2011
Are they smart than Chinese hackers ...USA now afraid of China and do nothing but insist China pls do not strengthen their army ...
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st0ked
pay teachers to teach first
08:25 AM on 08/09/2011
Does the phrase "mutually assured destruction" ring a bell? In the end that is the only fear that matters.
08:38 AM on 08/09/2011
So, because we blow each other up, that's all we need? Hey Ace, we're talking about another country (or whomever) destroying our ECONOMY through hacking. And no, the government doesn't have the skills or the understanding to compete in that game. No mutually assured anything. We lose.
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omeo2013
Jesus says we should cut taxes for millionaires.
02:43 AM on 08/09/2011
This is, as Ned Flanders would say, a dilly of a pickle. I've said before that me might not want to make enemies of the hacker community because we may need them to defend us against China. The problem will be convincing them that letting China take us down would be worse than continuing to allow our own government to abuse and hold down its citizens. Even if they can find enough recruits who pass the screening process, which I doubt, there's no guarantee said recruits won't go mad with power once they gain access to the technology and techniques used by the NSA. Perhaps we should offer them immunity for their help. If I were Anonymous and their army, I would defend America anyway. It would be a great way to get the people on their side and it would mak it harder to prosecute them.
10:36 AM on 08/09/2011
Why are my posts not showing?
10:51 AM on 08/09/2011
I have as much difficulty understanding what Anonymous sometimes does, as I do understanding what Standard & Poors just did. Some of the hacking choices made by Anonymous don't seem to be purely motivated by wanting to help human beings. It may be that they tend to see things in black and white, and don't weigh the balance of what good might come from what they do in contrast with the possible greater harm that might be caused. People who make indiscriminate, ideological decisions are a problem, whether they are leaders of the Tea Party, Standard & Poors, or Anonymous. The problem is that radicals do radical things! On the other hand, our standards for determining what people will or won't do, whether it be pay their bills or commit a crime, are sadly lacking. Forget about a young person who might use marijuana, for an individual's debt to be considered to achieve security clearance is pretty ridiculous. How about a brilliant young person who has racked up a huge amount of debt trying to get through college? Does anyone look into what generated the debt, or whether an individual will do his/her best to repay it as soon as they are able? No ... they rely on the credit bureaus, whose criteria are as ridiculous for determining credit worthiness as the ratings agencies'. Our "systems" and "standards" are misguided and defective.
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02:31 AM on 08/09/2011
Wonderful news!!!! Finally all Lamestream Media controlled by Investment Moguls and Media Moguls (and their girlfriends who just started a *giggle* 'news site' ((WELCOME TO THE INTERNETZ)) with corporate interests) are going to disappear!!!! Waiit......dang....I thought it said Philidelphia Project. My bad.
10:03 PM on 08/08/2011
Did any of you read the article about "Comex", the 19 yo kid that started JailBreakMe? He has successfully cracked iphones for several years and each time apple responds, he outsmarts them. It's a good quick read, I'll post the link below. The funny thing is, he says he is "looking for an internship". -How the private sector (especially apple) hasn't snagged this kid is beyond me.

http://hubski.com/pub?id=2584
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Pandoras Folly
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09:08 AM on 08/09/2011
in a pyramid blocks must interlock to form a stable and controllable structure. the big boys would rather hire ten average to above average talents than 1 supertalent that won't fit in their structure. Maybe google will get him or some start up, the later would be my bet.
12:24 AM on 08/10/2011
You're right, the pyramid cannot exist with "above average talents" at the bottom, still it behooves people at the mid to high levels of said pyramid to say they were the ones to bring in the #1 talent. Corporate America isn't all completely insane. -Seriously, they aren't.
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KriTiKiT
Says"play nice"
09:21 PM on 08/08/2011
hacking turncoat snitchesYIPPIE.
08:59 PM on 08/08/2011
It appears that the U.S. Government is terrible at predicting what it future needs will be.
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StansDad
Guy who eats food
10:53 PM on 08/08/2011
It appears your grammar needs more to have be better is
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Brent Rossen
Is our children learning?
06:15 AM on 08/09/2011
Because he forgot the s in its? Did your parents abuse you for getting a B in English or something?
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st0ked
pay teachers to teach first
08:28 AM on 08/09/2011
Vinny's comment made much more sense than your own. Vinny: It's "it's". Of course you knew that already but once it's posted,what can you do?
10:14 AM on 08/09/2011
True, and I agree.
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ohiotechie
Better dead than red...
08:57 PM on 08/08/2011
This long overdue but frankly I wonder if the government pays enough for anyone truly talented to join this group unless it's to make a name for themselves.

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but frankly I've felt for a long time that we need a special branch of the military focused solely on the nation's IT security. It's simply too important for the 21st century for us not to. It's worth remembering that prior to WW2 there was no Air Force; it was the Army Air Corp. The war underlined the strategic importance of air power so a completely new branch of the military was created with it's own command structure to focus on this. The same is needed for cyber-security. We need to develop both offensive and defensive capability and a unified, agile reaction system for dealing with the constant barrage of attacks against critical infrastructure and intellectual property.
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omeo2013
Jesus says we should cut taxes for millionaires.
02:22 AM on 08/09/2011
Why would you get flamed for that? Seems like common sense to me. Problem is, as we make advances in cyber-security, we run the risk of giving more power and better capability to the hackers. Now, I root for the hackers, mind you. I'm just saying I don't see any good way out of this that's not going to change the status quo, which is good. If we survive, we'll be better off.
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ohiotechie
Better dead than red...
04:51 PM on 08/09/2011
I figured I'd be flamed by the folks who see militarization of the Internet as evil. It seems to me it's an eventuality; either these forces work for us or against us but it's going to happen. Kinda like the atomic bomb; I'm not a big fan of nukes but the fact is it was better for us to have it first than our enemies. If a weapon can be created it will be eventually; we need to make sure it's our finger on the trigger and not someone else's.
10:16 AM on 08/09/2011
It is already being done,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command
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ohiotechie
Better dead than red...
04:46 PM on 08/09/2011
This isn't quite the same although it's a good start towards centralization. It still relies on several pockets of capability spread across several branches of military / government with a complicated command structure.

The Air Force doesn't need permission to use Army pilots and planes; it has it's own missions, it's own assets, and is accountable within it's own structure. While the Cyber Command is a good start in this direction it's not quite at this level (yet).
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
08:52 PM on 08/08/2011
Aren't there enough black hats working for the government spreading hate and facilitating murder and generally breaking laws already?
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Pandoras Folly
This Micro-bio is of legendary quality
09:09 AM on 08/09/2011
mirror shades are not the same as black hats.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
09:29 AM on 08/09/2011
Clever.

But false. And being false is the essential component of being a black hat.

I wear clear glasses so I can see reality as it really is as best I can and so that anyone who wants to can see me clearly too.

Can you say the same?
11:07 AM on 08/09/2011
It's important to be able to see beyond provincial political partisanship to recognize the danger that lies beyond the borders. Whatever you might think of the American government, Republicans or Democrats, you might not think they were as bad as some foreign alternatives that are at least equally as guilty of "spreading hate and facilitating murder and generally breaking (American) laws already."
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
01:29 PM on 08/09/2011
I'm all for defending ourselves from malicious predators ---- both foreign and domestic.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
01:30 PM on 08/09/2011
But I though, "Now is a time for reflection rather than retribution."

But maybe only for the powerful and the privileged, eh?!
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PoliticallyAffiliated
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
08:52 PM on 08/08/2011
This was a long time coming to fend off groups like anonymous and hackers working for other world governments. War will be fought online eventually...