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Facebook Firings: Employers Need To Mind Labor Law, Report Finds

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First Posted: 08/09/11 04:18 PM ET Updated: 10/09/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- American workers have been taking to Facebook and Twitter to passionately vent their workplace gripes, often in the most personal and vulgar ways possible. And as their bosses respond in kind with notices of termination, companies need to carefully consider whether they're breaking the law by firing someone due to the use of social media.

That's the take-away from a new analysis by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce of more than a hundred charges recently filed with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) involving social media and the workplace. Many of the complaints filed with the federal agency were brought by workers who felt they were illegally let go or otherwise disciplined for their Facebook musings. Others alleged that their companies had "overly broad" policies regarding social media that undercut their rights as workers.

"If you look across the country, there are just a lot of interesting scenarios out there," said Michael Eastman, executive director of labor law policy at the Chamber of Commerce and the author of the report. "Employees are not the most restrained on social media sites, and employers are not the most restrained in their reactions."

Indeed, the report confirms what any devoted Facebook user already knows -- people often don't consider the possible repercussions before posting something inflammatory on the social network, and their remarks often reach a much wider audience than they'd anticipated, including bosses who aren’t necessarily their Facebook "friends."

Employers, in turn, are firing workers for tarnishing the company with their outbursts or simply acting unprofessional online, sometimes not realizing that the employees' ramblings might be protected by labor law. Several such cases have already been litigated and settled, although the vast majority of social media-related cases before the NLRB are only in their early stages.

"Employers who never thought of the NLRB before suddenly have the agency asking about their social media policy," said Eastman. "It's kind of a wake-up call."

In the charges filed by workers, many accused their employers of firing them for disparaging their company's product on Facebook, for complaining on Facebook about not receiving their paychecks on time and for discussing disciplinary warnings on Facebook. Some workers were ordered by superiors to remove posts they made to the site. One was fired for writing, "I don't want to be here anymore. They don’t pay me enough and I don't give a sh*t."

An NLRB spokeswoman previously told HuffPost that the agency is drafting a report that will offer employers some guidance on the law. "It's ... to help employers understand where we're coming from on these," said spokeswoman Nancy Cleeland. "This is new territory."

As the Chamber report shows, the line between a fair firing and a potentially illegal one can be thin. In the case that prompted a torrent of complaints filed with the NLRB, the agency's general counsel maintained that a Connecticut ambulance worker was unfairly fired for criticizing her boss on Facebook. Although she called her superior a "d*ck" and a "scumbag" -- the kind of insubordination that workers are routinely fired for -- the worker's Facebook back-and-forth also seemed to include a meaningful discussion of workplace conditions, an activity protected by labor law.

But at the same time, the NLRB threw out a complaint from a Walmart worker who was disciplined in part for calling his boss a "puta" -- Spanish for "whore" -- on Facebook, essentially arguing that the worker was airing nothing more than an "individual gripe." So far, the board has suggested that for Facebook chatter to be protected by labor law, it must involve substantive talk about the workplace with other co-workers.

The NLRB's report on social media cases is expected to be released sometime in the coming weeks.

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WASHINGTON -- American workers have been taking to Facebook and Twitter to passionately vent their workplace gripes, often in the most personal and vulgar ways possible. And as their bosses respond in...
WASHINGTON -- American workers have been taking to Facebook and Twitter to passionately vent their workplace gripes, often in the most personal and vulgar ways possible. And as their bosses respond in...
 
 
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songchannels
11:35 PM on 08/15/2011
This issue is completely moot since employers in the U.S. can fire anyone for any reason at any time. There is no law preventing termination of an employee unless a state has a civil statute based on race, religion, sexual orientation or gender. We all sign an acknowledgment of the employer's rights upon hire. They don't even have to tell you why they're firing you!

There are no employee's rights whatsoever excluding statutes.
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Robert Blair3174
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07:12 PM on 08/12/2011
If an employer finds me using company equipment'resources for personal business, on company time I would expect to be disciplined. They should have no right to control what I do, or say OUTSIDE the workplace. (Except as covered by agreed to confidentiality agreements, libel,statutes, etc... or if my off duty behavior effects my other work performance) That being said Facebook IS a public forum. (Regardless of your "Privacy" settings) Don't post anything online that you wouldn't say in any other public/social space.
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AllShookUp
Hug A Hater
02:13 PM on 08/12/2011
It boils down to using your best judgment. If you don't want your words or actions being used against you, then learn how to censor yourself. Like it or not, how you present yourself online says alot about the person you are.
01:36 AM on 08/12/2011
What employees do during their off hours is their own business. Only an unethical employer who's up to no good goes into social websites like Facebook, Twitter and the like with the intention of finding something to use against an employee. There are so many laws out there that protect the employer but hardly any to protect the workers. Disciplining and/or terminating an employee over something that falls under the category of Free Speech is wrong. And in this economic climate, these employers are simply drunk on power and are indeed mad.
05:36 PM on 08/11/2011
Honestly where does this stop? what happens if i gripe about my boss at a bar with co workers and one of them says something about it the next day?
Corporations, or people however you look at it, need to understand that everyone that works for them is gonna vent about it at some point. As long as the person comes in does their job and doesn't cause any issues with said person while working i don't think there is anything wrong with a little angry ranting no matter how foul it is.
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10:59 PM on 08/11/2011
I'd probably draw the line at libel. i.e. I think my boss is unfair or cheap or lazy is different than my boss is a wh-re who probably slept her way to get the job. One is an opinion/critique of work conditions. The other, you'd best be prepared to provide evidence that gives weight to your assertions; otherwise, it looks a lot like libel.
11:31 AM on 08/12/2011
I do see your point, but at the same time it people are known to say all kinds of crap when angry at a boss, and as long as it's said outside of work and not to their face I again see no point in firing someone over it.
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songchannels
11:37 PM on 08/15/2011
You have no rights in the workplace to a job unless they terminate you in violation of your state's statute based on gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
04:45 PM on 08/11/2011
I can see that the same people who are against allowing people to post message about their workplace are also against union representation........

I say this because good companies that treat its employee with pride and respect and pay them a decent living wage...... don't have either bad postings or unions..........
04:16 PM on 08/11/2011
People need to stop acting like Facebook is not a public place that can be access even without individuals being friends. I can Google a person and many times pages of their Facebook or photos on Facebook will come up. When a company runs a background check many of the companies that run them check everything...including what they can find about you on the internet. The internet is not a private place. This is not your cell phone and it's not your email so stop treating it like it is. Behave accordingly.

BTW is you can't say what you're saying online to your management or your boss...then why fuss..clearly it's not going to get you anywhere now is it?
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Scott Fraley
01:34 PM on 08/11/2011
"Others alleged that their companies had "overly broad" policies regarding social media that undercut their rights as workers."

Could have fooled me... I didn't know workers had rights in this country.
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songchannels
11:40 PM on 08/15/2011
Rights? What rights? They can terminate anyone for any reason, at any time without cause unless you have a contract arrangement or are protected by your state's civil statute under gender, race religion, sexual orientation laws. You sign the acknowledgment upon hire. People are foolish to post employer criticisms under their names on Facebook, it's self destructive.
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Scott Fraley
01:33 PM on 08/11/2011
Employers can fire you for any reason short of being a minority.
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
04:39 PM on 08/11/2011
and then they do it until you can prove otherwise...........
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Osusuki
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08:37 AM on 08/11/2011
Let me get this straight.

Employee A is having a drink with friends at the bar and calls Employer A a nasty name. No problem. Employee A calls Employer A a nasty name on Facebook (which is nothing more than a cyberspace "bar" sans alcohol) and gets legally fired. What is wrong with this picture.

Employee B calls Employer B a nasty name on Facebook and gets legally fired. Employee B adds explicit details about workplace events which have driven Employee B to call Employer B a nasty name, and the whole outburst is covered by labor laws, keeping Employee B safe.

Have I got this right? Seriously?
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11:05 PM on 08/11/2011
Well if Employee A is at a bar calling Employer A a nasty name, and Employer A is in earshot, you think Employee A has a job the next day?

You're an employer and your employee is at the next table telling all the people in earshot that you're a wh-re/sack of sh-t. You don't think there will be consequences from that?

Complaining about aspects of your workplace or work conditions is one thing. But when you cross the line over to personal insults, particularly slanderous/libelous ones, what matters isn't the forum (the bar vs. facebook) but whether your boss gets wind of it.
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Osusuki
All your base are belong to us...
12:13 PM on 08/13/2011
What matters is that free speech has fallen victim to capitalist despotism. They freed the slaves in this country and the serfs in Europe before 1865, and yet we have this whole class of entrepreneurs who believe in their own deity and couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag, who substitute fear and coercion for leadership, and who are more than willing to terminate an employee for an insult that they never should have been eavesdropping on in the first place. In so doing, they generally tend to validate the employee's complaint. It is a poor manager who cannot face the truth about himself or herself, and poor managers should fail. That we provide them with the means and the opportunity to bolster their egos at the expense of their employees (and ultimately of their enterprises) is just one more example of the sickness of this society.
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11:10 PM on 08/11/2011
Well, if the employer is at the next table in the bar, one suspects that you could get fired too for calling him/her a nasty name, particularly if it crosses the line into slander/libel and/or defamation. For example, I doubt it matters whether your boss hears you in person or through facebook that you called him/her a wh-re, for instance. Or a sack of sh--. Or something similarly colorful.

Complaining about your workplace or work conditions is one thing; personal insults and ad hominems, you're concern shouldn't be the forum so much as whether the target of your insults gets wind of it.
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Beth Hill
05:32 AM on 08/11/2011
I really think people shouldn't have to worry about what they say on their own time. I also think employers should stop hunting for this stuff.
05:40 PM on 08/11/2011
I can very much agree with you.
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songchannels
11:48 PM on 08/15/2011
The workplace is different from what employees think it should be. At-will employees have no right to their job.
04:54 AM on 08/11/2011
social network is an electronic dimension of reality, worker should behave as in real life, as the consequence of real life can be found in a electronic way. face book user as real people should take care of theire though and sayiing.
04:47 AM on 08/11/2011
i personally accept any comment on facebook, as i can learn something, social network can be hard, to handel but i try to get the most of it.
01:48 AM on 08/11/2011
I am glad people are looking into this. I turned superior in for sexual harassment at work. When the company had no choice they fired the person. They then used facebook to retaliate against me. They found pictures that they found inappropriate and punished me for them. I learned not to be friend with anyone I work with on facebook. However, I was attack by my company, and they used my facebook to do it.
01:10 AM on 08/11/2011
How about you just set your account to private,don't friend your boss, and don't vent about work at work. You can't be fired for what you say off of the clock without violation of your freedom of speech rights. If you didn't sign anything saying that you would not vent about your work on any social media sites, you are bulletproof.
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Beebopaloula
She's MY baby.
06:06 AM on 08/11/2011
How about the government just tell the corporations to stop firing people for talking to each other?

Much simpler that way.

Down with Corporate slavery.
01:46 AM on 08/12/2011
But that's exactly what some employers are doing --- firing people for ranting about them via their Facebook accounts while they're off the clock. And for those who were fired or disciplined, they were not bulletproof.
04:43 AM on 08/12/2011
Clearly they did not do the first thing that I suggested, Set your page to private. Once one does that, there is no way for your employer to see what you wrote.