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Islamic Terrorism Threat May Be Overblown, Expert Says

Islamic Terrorism

First Posted: 08/09/11 07:23 PM ET Updated: 10/09/11 06:12 AM ET

By Yonat Shimron
c. 2011 Religion News Service

(RNS) After a car bomb detonated on Wall Street one minute past the noon lunch hour killing 38 people, federal investigators came up with a possible link to an overseas group.

Islamic terrorists?

Al Qaeda?

No, Italian anarchists.

The year was 1920, and in those days anarchists were the equivalent of today's terrorists, waging acts of mass destruction against Western capitalism.

Charles Kurzman, a professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina, thinks the wave of 20th century anarchist violence bears a resemblance to the Islamic terrorism of the 21st century in one sense: Neither resulted in a spiraling escalation of violence.

"In many ways," said Kurzman, "Islamic terrorism is simply the latest form of transnational revolutionary violence to grab global attention."

Put another way: This too shall pass.

While mindful of the pain and suffering terrorism has caused, Kurzman has written a book challenging the dominant narrative that worldwide terrorism is out of control.

In "The Missing Martyrs: Why There Are So Few Muslim Terrorists," Kurzman argues that Islamic terrorism has accounted for a miniscule number of murders compared with violent death tolls from other causes.

In the United States, for example, fewer than 40 people died at the hands of terrorists in the 10 years since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. That compares with about 140,000 other murders during the same time.

The bad news, said Kurzman, is that Islamic terrorists really are out to kill Americans. The good news is there are very few of them. In fact, of the less than 40 killed at the hands of terrorists over the past decade, none were tied directly to al Qaeda. These include the 2002 Beltway sniper attacks, in which 10 people were killed in the Washington, D.C., area, and the 2009 Fort Hood shootings in which U.S. Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan killed 14 people.

That count does not include the many failed terrorist bombings united by a common theme: Incompetence. Had these plots, such as the bungled 2010 Times Square car bomb, succeeded, the death toll would have been much higher.

The truth is, said Kurzman, the more terrorists kill, the less popular they become. That does not mean the world is safe from terrorism, and Kurzman cautions America may well see another horrific terrorist attack.

It does mean the U.S. government should examine the evidence and ratchet down the discourse, he said. That goes for the Muslim radicalization hearings held by Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., as well as presidential candidate Herman Cain's statements that he would require Muslim government appointees to take a loyalty oath.

"The narrative right now is that Islamic terrorism is either no threat at all, or it's a pandemic throughout the community," said Alejandro Beutel, government and policy analyst for the Muslim Public Affairs Council. "Charles Kurzman's very scholarly approach to the issue is something we want to move toward. There is a threat out there, but it's a tiny minority of individuals."

What, then, of the supposed sympathy for terrorist acts among Pakistanis or Palestinians, among whom Osama bin Laden has been a popular figure?

Borrowing a term from author Tom Wolfe, who coined the phrase "radical chic," Kurzman calls it "radical sheik," playing on the Arab word for leader. It's an expression of resistance against Western imperialism, a kind of giving the finger to power and authority, not an actual vote of confidence for terrorism.

A sociologist of revolutions, who has spent a large part of his academic career studying the 1979 Iranian Revolution, Kurzman is now active with the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security. The center is a think tank consisting of experts from Duke University and the University of North Carolina. He was the principal author of a recent study that showed the number of U.S.-instigated terrorist incidents dropped by more than half in 2010.

Several years ago, Kurzman started taking Arabic courses so he could better read al Qaeda propaganda and digital bulletin board discussions by young Muslims.

He knows his argument that there are few Muslim terrorists is counter-intuitive, even provocative, but the Harvard and Berkeley trained professor is convinced it's a necessary corrective.

"It may be a hard sell to ask people to calm down," said Kurzman. "It doesn't make as compelling a read as scary stories and imminent threats of hidden dangers."

But there's one thing he hates to see even more: A backlash against Muslims on the occasion of the 10th anniversary of Sept. 11.

"I'm not saying terrorism is insignificant, or that I have no feelings for people who have lost loved ones due to terrorism," he said. "But I think we should also look at the days when nothing happens. This is a story about something that did not occur."

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05:17 PM on 08/15/2011
Terrorism is an issue and there may be only a handful (out of 3 billion muslims maybe only a few hundred thousand fighting Jihadists, maybe even a million or more) but they have a bigger crowd of otherwise passive muslims cheering them on. In Palestine, suicide bombers are celebrated and honored with posters on the street, parades etc... What does it tell you that the second best selling book in Arabic (next to the Quran) is Hitler's own Mein Kampf? It is this mentality that is frightening. Check this website for even more info: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_Q2bMzEGIIAJ:prophetofdoom.net/+islamic+terror&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
09:56 AM on 08/17/2011
Every single thing you say here is propaganda, straight out of Mein Kampf Chapter 6.
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behavingbadly
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04:16 PM on 08/15/2011
We're at a point where we're being terrorized by the idea of terrorism - a sort of terror-phobia - and reacting in the same sorts of irrational and obsessional ways in which people respond to other phobias.
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LightShadow62
The answers are not found in the extremes
01:57 PM on 08/15/2011
The threat from Islamic terrorism is far less than the threat terrorism from political fundamentalist in the US.
Need proof? Look at the what has been happening since the GOP gained control of the House.
02:05 AM on 08/20/2011
Look at what has happened since Obama became president
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09:56 AM on 08/15/2011
Thank goodness for people like Kurzman. Wouldn't it be nice if his senators or representative invited him to speak before Congress.
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JShankel
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03:00 AM on 08/15/2011
Deer kill more Americans every year than al-Qaeda.
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Doug Sandlin
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03:41 PM on 08/15/2011
Yep.

Not all deer though -- just the extremists.

Problem is, some people naively think all deer do stuff like that, and so, Deerophobia is becoming an issue in the United States.

This makes no sense, because out of roughly 500,000 deer in the U.S., only about 130 of them kill Americans, every year.

And yet, some people really, really don't like deer in general.

Seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL9xCWphV8s

(Warning: contains profanity.)
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JShankel
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11:07 PM on 08/15/2011
Well, first of all, fanned for Louis C.K. reference.

Secondly, it sounds like someone could use a "bambulance."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_habakm5sw

(warning: contains some non-profanity)
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f0rTyLeGz
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06:54 PM on 08/12/2011
I agree!

I think that we ARE terrorized. Remember the anxiety about "sleeper cells?" Isn't it true that if there were half a dozen Mohammed and Malvo teams traveling around the U.S. killing a couple shoppers and dog walkers a week America would lose it's mind? NOTHING has happened, and yet we still spend 125 MILLION a day in Afghanistan keeping America safe!

Islamic terrorists are NOT a threat to America's national security... unless the hysteria they created makes us give up our freedoms, and spend ourselves into poverty.
12:12 AM on 08/13/2011
Wow what a bunch of propaganda you are spewing. Do you have any idea how many failed or busted Islamist plots the U.S. has dealt with since 9/11?
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f0rTyLeGz
Everything is falling.
12:37 AM on 08/13/2011
al Queda and the Taliban are not a threat to our national security. They are a slim threat to some of our stuff. But they are not like the communists or Germany was in the WW2. They have no airplanes. In my opinion the Mexican drug cartels cause more grief, death, and lost money than the Islamic terrorists do.
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09:57 AM on 08/15/2011
No; do you?
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03:34 AM on 08/15/2011
In April 2011 alone, unmanned fighter planes( drones) killed 44 innocent people in Pakistan’s tribal region.

The 30th April 2011, drone strike was the 21st this year. There were 111 strikes in 2010.

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan counted that 957 innocent civilians were killed in 2010. Do conscienti­ous Americans refuse to call this terrorist attack? Same sort of attacks that Al-Qaeda is accused of.

The word collateral damages has two meanings in American dictionary
a) Killings of the Afghan and Pakistani innocent by the Nato forces
( Nato says this is Halal)

b) Cold blooded killings of Nato troops by the Taliban insurgents against foreign occupation
(Nato says this is Haram)
Please look at one scene of a drone attack:

the carbonized human bodies, burned so fully they could be identified by legs and hands alone, the bystanders sent flying like dolls through the air to break upon walls and stone, with shattered bones and sometimes-­fatal brain injuries.

Do Jesus loving Americans know about these cold blooded murders by drones?

Is it right for the U.S. to use unmanned aerial vehicles to function as prosecutor­, judge, jury and executione­r in the decision to assassinat­e anyone designated as a “high value target” in faraway Pakistan or Afghanista­n? But as a matter of fact they kill women, children and old people.

In religions, people say do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Do Americans do that?

Where you stand determines what you see.
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10:00 AM on 08/15/2011
..."Is it right for the U.S. to use unmanned aerial vehicles to function as prosecutor­­, judge, jury and executione­­r in the decision to assassinat­­e anyone designated as a “high value target” in faraway Pakistan or Afghanista­­n? But as a matter of fact they kill women, children and old people."....... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------No, it is not right and until we stop this behavior, we can expect retaliation in the whatever form the the retaliator's find successful.
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10:45 AM on 08/12/2011
Overblown? That all depends on what one believes in our daily news narrative. Considering most attacks blamed on 'them moozlims' in the west are false flags, I'd say it 110% overblown.
Hit some reality - travel - see things and other cultures.
You'll be utterly shocked at how hoodwinked Americans are.
12:12 AM on 08/13/2011
False flags?
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03:51 PM on 08/15/2011
Jess - out of an American Muslim population of roughly 2.5 Million, just about 170 or so have been arrested over the last decade on suspicion of involvement with terrorism.

The number one source for reporting those people to authorities was American Muslims, themselves.

Most of the plots were foiled, but American Muslim terrorists still killed 33 Americans in the last decade - an average of 3.3 per year.

http://clarifyingislam.com/2011/05/01/american-muslims-are-good-american-citizens/

Deer, per a comment above, kill roughly 130 Americans, every year.

More people die in auto accidents on any major holiday weekend, than have been killed by Muslim terrorists in the last ten years; auto deaths kill between 33,000 and 43,000 Americans every year.

*Americans* kill (murder) roughly 14,000-16,000 Americans every year, on average, or about 150,000 Americans murdered by other Americans over the last decade.

It's not the Muslim terrorism isn't a threat; it's dangerous, lethal and very real.

It's just a matter of keeping the realistic scope and scale of the threat in perspective.
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06:15 AM on 08/15/2011
You are absolutely right.
The US, Europe and Japan own and control 94% of the world’s wealth, and the rest of the poor world share the 6% of the meagre resources.

Biden was telling India and China that, come on guys, do not try to get more than the 6% share that we in the west have generously given you, we want to make sure you remain the under dogs and we are the masters of the world, that is the way the neo-colonialism of the American brand works and we are pretending to get closer to India just to hoodwink you, make sure you toe our lines or be ready to be sabotaged, we have the capacity to wreck your economy.

This is the reason for Americas occupying Iraq and Afghanistan for its rich minerals and trying to change the regime in Iran and put back a filthy ruler like Shah of Iran
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10:04 AM on 08/15/2011
Don't forget, they want the followers of that dictator Batista back in power in Cuba as well. Google Andy Garcia for more information.
04:05 AM on 08/12/2011
You hit the hammer on the nail my friend - such a simple truth, AWESOME REVIEW *^_^*
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03:28 PM on 08/11/2011
Um, the article doesn't mention the most dangerous Islamists are the ones who advocate Jihad through the womb, not the bomb. They see folks like the Times Square bomber as counterproductive. They would much rather lull Europe to sleep as it's being flooded with Muslim immigrants and the accompanying high birth rates. Even when birthrates lower over time there are still more and more Muslim immigrants coming in legally or illegally.
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04:18 PM on 08/11/2011
Do you have any links or supporting information for your assertion that "the most dangerous Islamists are the ones who advocate Jihad through the womb"?

Do Muslims say they're intending to colonize non-Muslim lands via the "womb", or do anti-Islamists just say this about them?
10:23 PM on 08/11/2011
Doug you're so polite I might have to stop by your website some time.

Cherry picking a few loose lipped jihadis really doesn't do much. What we should look at is the side comments on Muslim websites, in articles relating to the spread of Islam in Western countries and in responses to limiting Muslim immigration into Western countries. 

Lastly, take a look at the sick obsession of Muslim men posting videos of non-Muslim women converting to Islam on youtube.com

Here's just a little bit about the whole "jihad through the womb" thing.

“We’re the ones who will change you,” the Norwegian imam Mullah Krekartold the Oslo newspaper Dagbladet in 2006. “Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes.Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children.Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children.” As he summed it up: “Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours.”


Mullah Krekar used Norway as a safe haven for years.


Houari Boumédienne, Algeria’s undisputed ruler until his death in 1978, said it clearly In 1974:
Boumedienne said in a U.N. speech: “One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”



A Sunday Herald Sun investigation also found clerics railing against ‘evil’ democracy, vilifying Jews and Christians and encouraging jihad and polygyny. Many CDs and DVDs there feature London sheik Abdul Raheem Green, who is on an Australian Government watch list. On one, he tells his audience to Islamize Australia through a Muslim baby boom.

‘The birth rate in the Western countries is going down. People are more interested in their careers . . . they don’t want to have babies,’ Sheik Green says in one DVD. ‘So don’t you think, Muslim brothers and sisters, we’ve got a bit of an opportunity here? They’re not having babies any more. So what if, instead, we have the babies?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/dry-blamed-on-faithless-aussies/story-e6frf7kx-1111113132870
06:05 PM on 08/11/2011
Here here! You are very right! How do you combat that, though? Would it even be right to do so?
09:40 PM on 08/11/2011
Would it even be right to do so?

Interesting question. Ask Doug Sandlin if he thinks it would be a good thing to do nothing at all.
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01:08 PM on 08/11/2011
“Domestic radicalization that leads to violence in the American homeland
is one of the greatest emerging threats to the United States. In recent years, we’ve seen numerous cases of American citizens actively planning to murder their neighbors.”-- Jane Harman. Democrat.

"The American people would be surprised at the depth of
the [homegrown] threat...the whole notion of radicalization is something that didn’t loom as large ... as it does now." July 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder.
Things have not improved since then.
09:50 PM on 08/11/2011
Great! Next you can fear your own shadow! What a fun-fear filled world you live in!
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10:45 PM on 08/12/2011
I fear nothing, but I won't stick my head in an alligators mouth. I didn't see the word fear anywhere in the previous post that you refer to. Poke fun at or belittle those with differing opinions. TheLiberal mantra.
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07:42 PM on 08/12/2011
"Members of the American Muslim community have been, and continue to be, strong partners in fighting this emerging threat. They have regularly denounced terrorist acts and those who carry them out. And they have provided critical assistance to law enforcement in helping to disrupt terrorist plots and combat radicalization.

These individuals have consistently, and correctly, expressed deep concern about the recruitment of their youth by terrorist groups. Many members of the community have taken proactive steps to stop the recruitment of their youth by terrorist groups. Just recently, a group of prominent American Muslims joined together in a video to repudiate the tactics employed by radicalized militants to recruit young Muslims via the Internet.

There needs to be more recognition of these efforts and of the losses suffered in the Muslim community here and around the world. Many of the victims of terror attacks by al-Shabaab, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and other terrorist groups are innocent Muslims."
~Attorney General Eric Holder, August 6, 2010

http://www.mpac.org/programs/government-relations/dc-news-and-views/dc-news-views-attorney-general-acknowledges-muslim-american-communities-work-in-countering-violent-extremism.php
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10:12 AM on 08/15/2011
Thank you. F/f.
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12:45 PM on 08/11/2011
Investigators have discovered a "Jihadi village" of white German al-Qaeda insurgents, including Muslim converts, in Pakistan's tribal areas close to the Afghan border. Pakistan discovers 'village' of white German al-Qaeda insurgents
Investigators have discovered a "Jihadi village" of white German al-Qaeda insurgents, including Muslim converts, in Pakistan's tribal areas close to the Afghan border.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/6226935/Pakistan-discovers-village-of-white-German-al-Qaeda-insurgents.html
10:02 PM on 08/11/2011
Are you, like, hired to do this?
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07:37 AM on 08/15/2011
People have their huge private axe to grind all the time, after all we say actions are judged by intentions
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10:13 AM on 08/15/2011
Yes; he is.
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11:56 AM on 08/11/2011
Islamic terrorism poses only a marginal threat to our nation and citizens.  Most people have a better chance of drowning in the bathtub than dying in a Muslim terrorist attack.  Even repeated terrorist attacks pose little threat to our form of government or way of life.

The greatest actual threat to America is our government’s response to terrorism.

Security-versus-liberty tradeoffs are a classic case of diminishing marginal returns: Each incremental unit of civil liberties sacrificed achieves ever decreasing improvements in actual safety. 

There is simply no amount of security that will stop a determined terrorist, Muslim  or otherwise, from finding a way to trade his life for ours.  Ultimately, we can lock ourselves in prison cells with no rights, yet still be at risk of a terrorist attack. 
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12:48 PM on 08/11/2011
More fear-mongering from the usual kuffayeh - wearing mutli-cultis.
03:29 PM on 08/11/2011
Save your b.s. please.
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04:27 PM on 08/11/2011
How is it BS?

Do you have actual data to support a separate conclusion?

The very real, but statistically-unlikely dangers of Muslim terrorism in the United States are supported by all related information (number of incidents, number of people hurt or killed, frequency of incidents, and so on).

That's why the article says the threat is "overblown" .... it's a very real threat, but the numbers and other related information don't support the levels of overall concern among the general public, or the error-based over-focus on Muslims in general, and on Islam as a religion.

Muslim terrorism is a very real, very dangerous, very sporadic threat, posed by an extremely small percentage of Muslims who are extremists.

That's what the facts tell us.

If you feel the facts tell us something different than that, please explain -- but please also be prepared to back up your alternate view with facts and logic.
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Dan Stewart
11:55 AM on 08/11/2011
The Department of Homeland Security tells us, "…terrorists can strike at any place, at any time, and with virtually any weapon."

If there are so many Muslim terrorists, where are all the attacks?  Why aren’t they derailing trains, blowing up bridges, collapsing tunnels, poisoning water supplies, cutting power lines, sabotaging oil pipelines -- why aren’t they bombing malls, office building and sporting events?  Why aren’t they at least writing threatening letters to the editor? 

After all, there are more than five million Muslims in the U.S.  If only one percent hate us, there’s 50,000 potential terrorists walking our streets!  Surely a fraction of them, say 500 or so, would have acted by now.  Maybe not another spectacular Twin Towers attack, but something akin to Timothy McVeigh’s Oklahoma City bombing or even Eric Rudolph’s Centennial Olympic Park bombing?

One reasonable explanation is that almost no terrorists exist in the United States and few have the means or the inclination to strike from abroad.  But no one ever suggests this.  I can’t help but doubt the truth of information coming from government officials and “terrorism experts” about the actual risk posed by terrorism.

In truth, we’re the safest people who have ever lived and most Americans have a better chance of dying in the bathtub than in a terrorist attack.  Looks like the Home of the Free and the Land of the Brave is not so free or brave anymore.
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12:55 PM on 08/11/2011
Of course this kind naive multi-culti piffle ignores the fact that militant Islamist activities require those who are intimately involved in militant Islam by: funding,planning, recruiting, transporting, arming, sheltering, proselytizing and politically supporting it.
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01:46 PM on 08/11/2011
So your contention is that for American Muslims to "derail a train, blow up a bridge, poison water, cut a power lines, or sabotage an oil pipeline" would "require funders, pl­anners, recruiters­, transporters, arms, shelters­, proselytizers and political support"?  A few Muslims who hate us because we're free could just get together and pull off some small-scale act of terrorism?

If yes, your argument is unpersuasive.
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10:17 AM on 08/15/2011
Isn't that what the Saudis do? Think it is time for an invasion? Oh, no, I am sure that your statment is designed to encourage the invasion of Iran.
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04:28 PM on 08/11/2011
The empirical data support your view.

http://clarifyingislam.com/2011/05/01/american-muslims-are-good-american-citizens/
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Dan Stewart
11:48 AM on 08/11/2011
The vast majority of Americans have a better chance of drowning in their bathtubs than dying at the hands of a Muslim terrorist attack.
03:31 PM on 08/11/2011
In other words, no need to be alarmed Dhimmi...
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04:10 PM on 08/11/2011
I am sure karma will get Dannie into a 7.7 situation one day.
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04:31 PM on 08/11/2011
What's the basis for your alarm?

&

"Dhimmi"?

That's an ancient term for a non-Muslim in a Muslim-governed society, but it hasn't applied in the real world for a long time, and I would suggest that using it to refer to someone who simply holds a different opinion than you do amounts to nothing more than simple name-calling.