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Analysts Increasingly Pessimistic About Economic Recovery

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 08/16/11 02:04 PM ET Updated: 10/16/11 06:12 AM ET

Forecasters are increasingly reining in their expectations for the United States' economic performance, suggesting that the country will face many more months of anemic growth before the recovery takes hold.

Weak expansion and bloated unemployment rates, as well as a debt crisis in Europe and a climate of uncertainty aggravated by partisan gridlock in Washington, have caused a growing number of analysts to issue discouraging projections.

Moody's Analytics, a sister company of the credit rating agency Moody's Investors Service, is the latest group to register its pessimism. On Monday, Moody's lowered its growth outlook for the U.S. economy, warning in its report that the odds of a double-dip recession are already one in three -- and that those odds are "rising with each 100-point drop in the Dow," a reference to the market volatility seen last week.

"The near-term economic outlook is significantly weaker than it was just a month ago," Moody's chief economist Mark Zandi wrote in the report.

Moody's lowering its outlook has been taken as a signal that the agency may be considering a downgrade of the country's sovereign credit rating. A similar downgrade from Standard & Poor's sent shock waves through the stock market last week, with the Dow rising and falling hundreds of points from day to day.

In spite of the Moody's announcement, markets had a strong performance on Monday, with the Dow finishing up about 214 points on the day.

Other groups have made predictions similar to Moody's recently. Earlier this month, Goldman Sachs also put the odds of a new recession at one in three, and said that the national unemployment rate was likely to rise to 9.25 percent by the end of 2012.

A group of 39 economists, recently polled by USA Today, offered a slightly less grim picture for the near term -- including 8.8 percent unemployment by August 2012 -- but still expected a prolonged period of slow growth.

Likewise, last week, Wells Fargo published a forecast for "moderate, subpar growth accompanied by rising inflation pressures."

The Wells Fargo report characterized America's situation as a "MacGyver economy," because like the resourceful detective, "we must make do with what we have -- not what we would like to have."

One note of reassurance has come from the credit rating agency Fitch Ratings, which recently said that it plans to maintain its AAA rating for the United States' credit, and that its outlook on the country's rating is stable.

Standard & Poor's became the first major agency to give America a rating of less than triple-A when it downgraded the sovereign debt rating from AAA to AA+ earlier this month. Moody's, like Fitch, has not revised its triple-A rating for America's credit.

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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
01:07 AM on 08/22/2011
Most monetary economists are Federal Reserve battered wives, w h o r e s & pimps, according to HP's analysis from several years ago.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/07/priceless-how-the-federal_n_278805.html?view=screen
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
01:03 AM on 08/22/2011
Robert Auerbach, a former investigator with the House banking committee, spent years looking into the workings of the Fed and published much of what he found in the 2008 book, "Deception
and Abuse at the Fed". A chapter in that book, excerpted here, provided the impetus for this investigation.

Auerbach found that in 1992, roughly 968 members of the AEA designated "domestic monetary and financial theory and institutions" as their primary field, and 717 designated it as their secondary field. Combining his numbers with the current ones from the AEA and NABE, it's fair to conclude that there are something like 1,000 to 1,500 monetary economists working across the country. Add up the 220 economist jobs at the Board of Governors along with regional bank hires and contracted economists, and the Fed employs or contracts with easily 500 economists at any given time. Add in those who have previously worked for the Fed -- or who hope to one day soon -- and you've accounted for a very significant majority of the field.

Auerbach concludes that the "problems associated with the Fed's employing or contracting with large numbers of economists" arise "when these economists testify as witnesses at legislative hearings or as experts at judicial proceedings, and when they publish their research and views on Fed policies, including in Fed publications."
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mbo2
12:51 PM on 08/18/2011
to believe that the U.S. has gone through any "austerity" measure is laughable at best

even now I'm bombarded with radio commercials offering free cell phones and cell phone coverage to anyone receiving any form of assistance; and now every single kid in Detroit gets free breakfast, lunch, and snacks, regardless of income, every day of the year

don't tell me anyone is seeing an austerity measure from the Feds
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mbo2
12:41 PM on 08/18/2011
The White House announced that President Obama will deliver a major address on job creation early in September. Mr. Obama could address proposed Labor Department regulations that would hobble employers with paperwork, and REDUCING hiring. These regulations include affirmative action rules for minorities and women at on-site construction jobs for federally-funded projects; requirements for federal contractors to keep records of the race, sex, and earnings of employees; rules governing dust levels in coal mines; and rules to expand preferences for veterans in the workplace.
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Peter007
11:40 AM on 08/18/2011
Citizens to Obama on the economy....

"You broke it, you own it."
11:36 PM on 08/17/2011
Democrats pushed lenders to lower credit standards for mortgages and empowered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Now we know what happens when banks lowered their credit standards and gave mortgages to people who couldn't afford them.
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MilesToGo
10:28 PM on 08/17/2011
All optimism aside, realistic assessment of economic trends inevitably reveals a ongoing and perpetual decline. Faith & trust in economic & political leadership is all but effectively gone. Wisdom and ethics would suggest individuals plan accordingly, while we also as individuals do whatever we can to ameliorate or possibly reverse the ongoing impacts.
08:46 PM on 08/17/2011
There giving stock market investors 0% intrest loans on speculative loans Yet they wont give loans at any rate to masterinventors to restart the economy by creating new top market marketable inventions and subsequent startups As the worlds top inventor ive got far better odds of sucess than wall st gamblers.
04:33 PM on 08/17/2011
Maybe "analysts" should get off thier rear ends and get actual productive jobs to help with the economy...

Austerity measures will take TRILLIONS out of the economy. Just a fact. So how can the economy possibly get better anytime soon?

We don't need "analysts" to tell us the economy is not going to get better in the next 10 years.
The people on Main Street USA can do a better job of that, just ask em, it's free...
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lullu
We are only here once, it's not a rehearsal
09:58 AM on 08/17/2011
Inside Job. The movie explains everything. Bankers and politicians are corrupt. Not that anyone with half a brain didn't know that.
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
09:39 AM on 08/17/2011
Austerity measures during a recession didn't work out very well for the nation under the Hoover Administration. I see no reason why they would be any more effective now. Einsteins definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.

Seems to me................"Those that fail to learn from history, are destined to repeat it".
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atlasusa
01:49 PM on 08/17/2011
You seem full of wise quotations....... and logical reasoning !
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
02:06 PM on 08/17/2011
Thanks for the comment, and the compliment.

My detractors (I have many) would disagree.

They agree with you that "I'm full of".............................but do not agree with you on what the contents are.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
05:17 PM on 08/17/2011
Government spending didn't work out very well, either.
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
05:53 PM on 08/17/2011
Throwing money at a problem seldom does.

Had the money been spent wisely, and in adequate amounts, we would be (IMPO) well on our way back to prosperity. That didn't happen.

Given the partisan politics we see today, I doubt that it will.

Assuming you believe that the current administration has done a terrible job in dealing with the situation (something I would not argue) I would point out that things could be a whole lot worse, and depending on what austerity measures are actually taken, I, for one, believe they will be.

"“For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'.”

(John Greenleaf Whittier)
09:19 AM on 08/17/2011
The very institutions (and Politicians) that missled the United States people and got the economy into the state it's in now, by pure negligence and some intent (thus share the responsibility for the collaspe of 2008) are now "BETTING" on the economy, again.
The 39 economist had more sense. Most economist told the market that there needed to be a large enough stimulus to combat this situation in the beginning--but the markets and politicians that supported corporations and the super wealthy--made sure that didn't happen. Now they fain disbelief that this is happening, and rating corporations that should have received a significant downgrade themselves are now rating the United States people--the very people that SAVED them, corporations, the wealthy and most importantly the country from collapse.

Now it's just basic physics the bottom gave out to save the top, now the bottom is shaky again and needs to be stabilized--this is where the government comes in--to stabilize the base. Through jobs that the government can provide--or stimulus, or both. It's the base that saved the country not the top--there should be NO COMPROMISE when it comes to giving back to this country.
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conchop
logic ethics quality
08:35 AM on 08/17/2011
Lets see.... we have had a dreadful crash caused by unregulated and and over rated mortgage backed securities market. We have a TEA/GOP who's ideology caused this problem and who has declared their intentions to ruin the President. They will obviously try to do this at any expense including our personal savings account.

Just recently, they have held the USA hostage by refusing to raise our debt ceiling unless "cuts" were made. This move is contrary to what most major economists recommend. Nonetheless, trillions of dollars are going away, no longer to be included in the worlds economy.

Then another conservative organization, S&P, that is somewhat responsible for the suspect ratings on those toxic mortgages, reduced the USA's credit rating. Like they can be trusted after their incredibly bad record of accuracy. Nonetheless, the markets were spooked and billions of our retirement savings and industrial investment went away - disappeared.

Pessimistic? Hmmmm.... When we have surrounded ourselves with such poor performers from the TEA/GOP and S&P, it's absolutely NO WONDER we are pessimistic. These morons and their followers are supposed to be making ME AND YOU some money. But no, what we have here are a bunch of intellectually and ethically challenged miscreants and monkeys in suits. Their only ambition is to remove Obama and get a Republican in the White House so they can completely gut the New Deal and The Great Society. This enriches their corporate masters and makes us poor.
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omnioasis
09:07 AM on 08/17/2011
Maybe democrats shouldnt have removed regulations in the 90's, maybe they should have listened to the tea party that had the ssame message ofd the S&P and all americans. maybe they shoyuldn't have doubled 70 years of debt in 3 years. maybe they shouldnt have bailed out unions,banks and wall st over Americans. maybe dems shouldnt have blocked fannie and freddie from regualations, enabling their collapse. maybe democrats should not have set our nation back thirty years. You now own the worst finacial record in the us economy, not to mention the worst debt and worst unemployment. You think you can get the triple a rating you lost us back too.
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conchop
logic ethics quality
10:09 AM on 08/17/2011
Maybe, maybe, maybe - RUBBISH! This financial fiasco was caused by right wing ideologues and their ideology has failed us. Your point of view is welcome and its a free country, but society goes beyond recommendations from bumper stickers. Most of us want to see real positive and progressive results that reflect ethics, quality, and a sense of logic that would rid ourselves of a lot of the excuses, thievery, and lies from those who control our financial markets.
07:19 AM on 08/17/2011
My midwest town is really starting to come back.We have 2 -10 million dollar buildings going up and a lot of development. Its far from great but its alot better than other places.
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Snarky McSnarkster
Opposed to hypocritical Christians
07:49 AM on 08/17/2011
The midwest is enjoying a boom from selling our food to China.
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forestnfama
I was born at a very early age....
06:10 AM on 08/17/2011
Well if the analysts think that I am going to start investing because they are always wrong.......
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Snarky McSnarkster
Opposed to hypocritical Christians
07:51 AM on 08/17/2011
No kidding. What a way to make a living! It should be spelled "analist".