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Beth Simone Noveck, Former U.S Deputy Chief Technology Officer, On The Tech Trends That Worry Her Most

Beth Simone Noveck

First Posted: 08/19/11 05:16 PM ET Updated: 10/19/11 06:12 AM ET

“My goal was not to be in technology,” said former U.S. deputy chief technology officer Beth Simone Noveck.

Her goal was to improve democracy and governance, an aim Noveck ultimately found she could best accomplish with help from new technological tools.

Noveck, a law professor, has become a tech pioneer in the policy world, pushing governments to adapt to the Internet age and use technology to improve transparency, participation and problem solving.

"To me, we have spent a lot of time and attention on technology in politics, but not a lot on technology in governance," she said.

Until her resignation in January, Noveck led the Obama administration’s Open Government Initiative, a program that sought to more widely share government information with the public and an effort that was a key priority for the White House. She currently advises U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron on how his administration can better employ technology in the public sector.

“To me, technology was a means to an end to achieve the social justice goals, stronger democracy and more effective government that is the aim of what I do,” Noveck said. “In the 21st century, you have to use technology as one of the tools in the toolkit to bring about social change.”

Noveck said she became aware of technology’s potential to transform society at an early age, when she witnessed how high-tech tools enabled her mother to balance her commitments to her family with her career as an investor and small business owner. Even as early as the 1970s, Noveck said electronic devices gave her mother a powerful means of communicating with anyone, from anywhere, at any time.

Noveck’s personal experience underscores the formative role female family members, with or without engineering expertise, can play in encouraging young women to develop an interest in computer science and the Internet, and ultimately help close the gender gap in Silicon Valley.

“I think that role models are extremely important in increasing the number of women in tech,” Noveck said. “I was lucky enough to have almost accidental role models: I have a mother, and an aunt, and a sister, none of whom are trained in technology, but all of whom use technology in one way or another.”

In an interview for The Huffington Post’s Women in Tech series, Noveck shared her perspective on online privacy, how technology can transform governments, why tech-savvy public servants are so important and more.

What is the best career advice that you’ve received?
You must constantly ask yourself, “What is the question?” not “What is the answer?” It’s by focusing on the question that you’re always going to be on the lookout for new solutions and new answers.

What career advice would you give to someone starting a career in tech? Would it be the same for men and for women?
I think the advice, regardless of gender, is always be open to conversations with people who do things differently than you do. If you’re starting to work in tech, talk to the artists, talk to the lawyers, talk to the people who are interested in other things. If you know what the question is that you care about, always be looking for people who care about the same question because it will help to spark new and creative ideas that bring you closer to the answers.

Why do you think there aren’t more women in tech?
Some of the most interesting people working to use technology to democratize the way governments function are women. The problem is there are not enough people -- women or men -- in government who are tech-savvy.

It’s not a gender issue, it’s a disciplinary issue: we need more people who are able to combine these two skill sets, technology and law and policy, to be able to work in more innovative ways within our public institutions to democratize problem solving. We haven’t made it a policy among politicians, or among civil servants, to ask them what their technical qualifications are.

What are the repercussions of this shortage of tech-savvy public servants in government?
The consequence in the public sector of not being familiar with tech culture is the tendency for people to say, “I have to know the answer and I have to come up with the solution.” Techies tend to know that they don’t have all the answers and that it’s okay not to have all the answers, as well how to ask in ways that are manageable and organized.

What’s the most important thing we can do to increase the number of women in tech?
Starting early and getting girls on computers, tinkering and playing with technology, games and new tools, is extremely important for bridging the gender divide that exists now in computer science and in technology.

We need an overhaul in terms of how we approach teaching technology from the earliest ages. Frankly, even the phrase “teaching technology” is already a misnomer. Kids teach technology to themselves -- it’s about freeing kids up to play, to experiment and to teach themselves and learn from one another how use the new tools.

What is the trend in tech that you find most concerning?
“Privacy is dead, get over it,” some say, but I don’t think I’m quite over it yet. In this arms race for commercial dominance, I’m still deeply worried about the amount of behavioral tracking that goes on online with regard to every aspect of our lives.

I’m also worried about the trend in politics to fail to take advantage of what technology can do for us in the domain of problem solving in our social and political life. To me, we have spent a lot of time and attention on technology in politics, but not a lot on technology in governance.

SOUND BYTES: Beth Simone Noveck on...

Her indispensable gadget: Her iPad

Her favorite app: Email ("It’s not just the killer app, it’s the app that’s killing me.")

Her favorite hashtags to follow on Twitter: #opengov and #opendata ("It's not a specific account, but it is a global community of people who are about the application of technology to democracy.")

Her "required listening" recommendation: Johann Sebastian Bach, "The Goldberg Variations." She adds, "I find that I write my way toward understanding, rather than read my way toward understanding. It’s writing and rewriting the things that people will never read that I find to be the most helpful way of refining and understanding what I’m working on."

What is the next big idea in tech?
The next big idea in tech is democracy. My short take on it is this: If the great innovation of the 20th century was bureaucracy, the great innovation of the 21st century is democracy and making it real in practice. I don’t just mean democratizing how we govern, but also making the processes by which we govern more open to new and innovative ideas. We need more people contributing these ideas and learning how to do that is the next big thing.

Can you paint a more specific picture of this for me? What does our government look like, 10 to 15 years down the line, if it’s able to implement that technology?
In the immediate term, there’s the chance to use technology to deliver services to citizens in ways that are much more convenient, like using mobile phones to simplify how we do everything from getting a passport to applying for a license.

That’s the easy stuff. More significantly than that, what it looks like is government constantly providing data about a particular issue or problem and citizens constantly being invited to share their ideas and tools for solving a particular problem.

What makes technology such a good tool for solving social problems?
First, technology is of course wonderful for enabling us to communicate information across a distance, which allows people with knowledge and expertise or enthusiasm or ideas for how to solve a problem, to share and communicate that information. The second thing it does is it really empowers our inner expert. If I have a particular enthusiasm or expertise, I can join a community online where I can contribute that knowledge. And third, what technology really lets you do -- not unlike law, which is why I think I gravitate toward both domains -- is it lets you structure and organize the way we communicate information.

Women in Tech, a series from HuffPostTech, showcases innovative female pioneers, from CEOs and scientists to entrepreneurs and engineers, who are changing the way we think about and engage with technology. Read more interviews and profiles from the series here

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“My goal was not to be in technology,” said former U.S. deputy chief technology officer Beth Simone Noveck. Her goal was to improve democracy and governance, an aim Noveck ultimately found she...
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
07:19 PM on 08/20/2011
Information technology will transform what it means to be human.

It already has.

We're in for a scary thrill ride, whether we like it or not.
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haimchaim
10:00 AM on 08/20/2011
the tech industry is the fastest growing & very most challenging .. more young women should give it their attention.. put as much financial & domestic beginnings to regain possible goals ..
04:09 AM on 08/20/2011
Given the build-up, and her jobs, this was dull as ditchwater. She worries about privacy but does not say why. Commercialism? Crime? Government oppression? Then she suggests getting a passport using your phone. That'll reduce crime.

Why is British Government paying for her services? What happened to not employing superfluous consultants?
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Reno Fickler
Head Lifeguard/Dead Sea Marina
01:28 AM on 08/20/2011
.....all based on the premise than no social, governmental, or economic upheaval will effect the future acceptability of her imagined, neo cyber-world.
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ChicagoBob
Save the Earth-It's the only planet with chocolate
10:45 PM on 08/19/2011
"...use technology to improve transparency, participation and problem solving."

Not something the GOP, and most other government people, seem to be interested in doing, especially that pesky transparency thing.
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Caniculus
Sine qua non
12:50 PM on 08/20/2011
Obama came out of the blocks with his Open Government Initiative advocating transparency, participation, and collaboration. But that was about as lasting as one of his rhetorical flourishes. It has been unfunded. And that's likely why Noveck resigned. Just speculation.
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laserstain
10:05 PM on 08/19/2011
THX1130.
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eugenemyst
Intentionally blank
10:00 PM on 08/19/2011
Privacy is not so much dead? I pleased to see someone in our country's forefront still understands that privacy is a real value.
09:04 PM on 08/19/2011
WOW,,,she sure has that Democratic "Woof" factor going for her. Too bad.
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Artos
Down with Tyrants
11:17 AM on 08/20/2011
Yeah, why can't the Democrats be more like the Republicans who have the big bucks and can afford to show off the furniture they pay for.
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Rational Thought Plz
Is the Micro Bio Half
08:54 PM on 08/19/2011
The Tech Trend that worries me most is the possible creation of Brain_Eating Robots.
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08:39 PM on 08/19/2011
I'm glad she recognizes privacy: "look around its gone" doesn't work for her. And Privacy has a fraternal twin: Anonymity. Exploiting Privacy of individuals is not enough of this perceived pie; make Privacy illegal. Remarks from Google and Facebook moguls state the desire to end Anonymity online -- image the reasons these folks have, fear is such a fun tool.

Respect Mining Data.
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oftenon
cartoons are the best explanation
08:35 PM on 08/19/2011
The dichotomy of privacy is that anonymity promotes hooliganism (online or in a mob riot) - and lack of it invites subjugation. Ambivalence about our personal and state selves is amplified the closer technology approaches a virtual telepathy.
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KOisGod
To thine own self be true
07:44 PM on 08/19/2011
She quit her job related to bring openness to our Govt to go work for the UK conservatives?

What, she wants her every word and voice call overheard by Murdock's basement dwellers in Romania?
06:44 PM on 08/19/2011
It's amazing how you can say a lot of things but not really say anything!
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Alain Lareau
06:25 PM on 08/19/2011
Give me Glass-Steagall, else your technology won't mean a thing.
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Artos
Down with Tyrants
06:10 PM on 08/19/2011
The greatest danger is the one she barely touches on and that is information gathering that violates the individuals privacy and lack of internet security. For one thing this is being institutionalized by Corporations and the Government. they are both doing it. One for greed and the other on the pretext of security. If this is Democratization, I believe that I would prefer to dispense with it. If the actions of a Community such as San Francisco's recent shutdown of the net is any example, and this from a supposedly liberal City, then we are already on the road to a Big Brother world. Maybe she should have addressed that a bit more.
    The second way in which we may find ourselves regretting technology is in it's use by our Military and Police. Each are being given tools that will eventually negate any attempt by citizens, who feel our Government has become a totalitarian one, from fighting back. How do you win back your freedom from a Corrupted Government that has tools such as the Predator drones which use infrared tech or technology that allows them to see through walls. Where does it stop. As it is our government develops biological and Chemical Warfare tools that could just as well be employed against its own people. How do we stop these? There is a time when we must realize that our Tax monies are being used to develop technologies that could just as well be the weapon turned on us. We have no guarantee that that can't happen. We have already come to a time when our leaders have shown us how little they listen to our demands. We have already seen how little use our Corporations have for those who worked to enrich them. They could just as well find that at some point they no longer need us at all. Then what?
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Farmers Market
False Flag Strategy For War
07:04 PM on 08/19/2011
You hit the nail on the head artos! F&F.
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10:59 PM on 08/19/2011
Keep typing Artos. Fanned and faved!