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Kashmir Mass Grave Found: Reported Burial Sites May Contain Thousands Of Bodies

Kashmir Mass Graves

By AIJAZ HUSSAIN   08/23/11 07:04 AM ET   AP

SRINAGAR, India -- An international human rights group is urging India to allow an impartial investigation of hundreds of unmarked graves in Indian-administered Kashmir after a government report confirmed they contain more than 2,000 bullet-riddled bodies, including hundreds of local residents.

Amnesty International said the investigation of graves in three regions also needs to be widened to all of the Indian-controlled portion of the disputed Himalayan territory.

"All unmarked grave sites must be secured and investigations carried out by impartial forensic experts," the London-based group said in a statement late Monday.

The Jammu-Kashmir State Human Rights Commission said in a recent report that 2,156 unidentified bodies were found in graves in three northern mountainous regions, while 574 other bodies in the graves were identified as local residents.

The commission's report is the first official acknowledgment that civilians killed in the two-decade conflict may have been buried in unmarked graves, but stops short of confirming that suspicion, long held by local residents and rights groups.

Previously, officials insisted that all the bodies were of outside militant fighters.

The top elected official in Indian-held Kashmir has proposed a truth and reconciliation commission be set up to probe all killings since Kashmiri militants launched an armed campaign against Indian rule and New Delhi responded with a military crackdown in 1989.

"The commission should be assigned the task to probe all the killings in the state. Whether the killings were carried out by militants or security forces, it needs to be probed," Omar Abdullah said.

Anti-India sentiment runs deep in Kashmir and most people want independence or merger with neighboring Pakistan.

India and Pakistan have fought two wars since 1947 for control of the territory, which is divided between them. India accuses Pakistan of arming and training rebel fighters, but Pakistan says it only offers moral and diplomatic support for their cause.

More than 68,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in the conflict.

Rights groups say some 8,000 people have disappeared, and accuse government forces of staging gunbattles to cover up killings. The groups also say suspected rebels have been arrested and never heard from again.

The state government has countered that most of the missing are probably Kashmiri youths who crossed into Pakistan for weapons training.

In 2008, a rights group reported unmarked graves in 55 villages across the northern regions of Baramulla, Bandipore and Handwara, after which researchers and other groups reported finding thousands of single and mass graves without markers.

Indian officials set up the commission to investigate and also began a separate police probe, the findings of which have yet to be released.

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1948 Palestine belongs to the Palestinians
05:03 AM on 08/26/2011
The people of Kashmir have the right to choose in a democratic referendum to be independent from Indian. Kashmir is occupied by Indian and this occupation must stop.
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grittyreboot
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10:09 AM on 08/26/2011
I'll add that Kashmir is occupied by India, Pakistan and China. Kashmiris in IoK, PoK and CoK deserve a referendum!
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12:45 PM on 08/26/2011
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People just need to ask themselves the simple question that some of you may have learned in elementary school or so...WWGD?

What Would Gandhi Do?
10:40 AM on 08/29/2011
"Democratic referendum to be independen­t from Indian" Hope the poster also considers the possibility that a referendum may result in Kashmiris choosing to be part of India.
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TAIsabel
Suffer no fools.
08:21 PM on 08/25/2011
The arbitrary, self serving, imperialistic lines drawn by the British and other Westen powers in South Asia, the ME and Africa during the 19th and 20th centuries will haunt us for generations to come.
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03:44 PM on 08/25/2011
I didnt see anyone mention the fair and transparent Kashmiri elections that took place in 1987...
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03:39 PM on 08/25/2011
As someone with an Indian background who also happens to be a huge Gandhi follower, let me just say that Kashmir has never been an integral part of India.

If I weren't living in Canada, but instead India, I'm sure y'all can imagine what would happen to me now for making that remark.

We all know what the Pakistani govt. is capable of in terms of foul play. Now no matter how effective it may turn out to be or not, thanks to Anna Hazare, we are finally seeing the bad side of the "Largest Democracy In The World" as well.

Autonomy should and will come one day.
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songs of the shamans...
03:44 PM on 08/25/2011
This person is writing a book on an aspect of Kashmir, the Amarnath shrine, and happened to post what they know about the history of Kashmir. Here you go...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Joan_E_Freyer/lord-shiva-and-the-econom_b_932629_104361797.html

BTW, it flies in the face of your pseudo history.
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08:25 PM on 08/25/2011
And the real history being what? What you hear from the Indian media? LOL!
And no, before you make the assumption that I'm anti-Indian but pro-Pakistani media, I'm against both.
Although, Chomsky himself has said that the English press in Pakistan is more "free" and less "restrictive" than in India.

Just the fact that you brought up mythological figures like Shiva into this to a devoted athiest like me tells me more than enough.
06:21 PM on 08/25/2011
"If I weren't living in Canada, but instead India, I'm sure y'all can imagine what would happen to me now for making that remark."

Well-known Indian Marxists such as Arundhati Roy say the same thing and nothing has happened to them except that they get to go on TV, pontificate on this issue and make some money. Why would anyone care about you or what you think?
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12:37 PM on 08/26/2011
I'm pretty sure the majority of Kashmiris would care about what I think. And they would hope that there were more people in India, especially those in power, who thought like me.
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12:42 PM on 08/26/2011
And you terming Arundhati Roy as a Marxist is similar to the American right wing labelling people like Noam Chomsky, et al as communists, marxists, etc...
02:46 PM on 08/25/2011
This story grossly exceeds what has happened in Libya and Syria in terms of atrocities and extrajudicial executions but it's Qaddafi and Assad that get demonized. Where is indignation on the part of US or UN. Likewise, dozens of thousands of tamils were killed by Sri Lankan gov but no action was taken by the Citadel of Democracy, EU or UN ...no NFZ either. Hypocrisy rules.
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grittyreboot
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12:32 PM on 08/25/2011
Appalling. Just straight up appalling. I think it is high time for the Indian govt to take the initiative and call for a plebiscite in all of Kashmir- Pakistan, Indian and Chinese controlled, to see if the Kashimiris want independence.
I suspect they do.

The Kashmiris are being used as pawns in this game of 3-way geopolitics. It is inhuman and cruel. No one's free. In IoK (india occupied kashmir), muslims live in fear, constantly having to "prove" their loyalty to the Indian state thanks to the horrible armed forces special powers act of 1990. In turn they take it out on the minority hindus. yay! no one wins.

In PoK, no hindus really, all killed years ago. Moderate muslims who just want to live their life get dragged into the fight. Azad Kashmir, my a$$. The only thing their "azadi" gets them is a spot in the next lashkar training camp. No, they dont have a choice. Yes, the Pak govt runs this.

No one knows what goes on in CoK because, well, it's china. who the heck knows what goes on in mountaineous china anyway. no dissent, no rebellion, no opinions except for the party line.

Im Indian, I say enough of this bloody jingoism. I'll acknowledge our govt's role in this. I ask my fellow humans who happen to be pakistani, or chinese, or hindu or muslim to acknowledge the role of their people in this atrocity. We are all to blame. First step: acceptance.
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04:08 PM on 08/25/2011
grittyreboot, isnt it sad to know what the so called Indian middle-class' take is on the topic of Kashmir?

I often get recognized as an unpatriotic traitor, which makes me to bring out to them the fact that my uncle (my dad's oldest brother) who served in the LoC region for the Indian Army passed away in 1994. Back then when I was 8 yrs old, even I was indoctrinated just like them.
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10:37 AM on 08/26/2011
I'm a long-term expat, and quite frankly more culturally American than Indian. But my entire family back in India is straight-up Hindu middle class. They's liberal, mildly religious, and generally quite tolerant. But bring up Kashmir and out come the patriotic claws. For all our ostensible desire for peace and the Gandhian way, the issue of Kashmir always ends up being a matter of "but the Pakistanis do worse."
This shouldn't be a matter of India v. Pakistan. I've been across the border to Pakistan when I was younger, to play cricket.. There is so much to love, culturally, about urban Pakistan. Good people, great food, best pace bowlers. Their govt. on the other hand, thanks to the (thankfully) late Zia and the like, is pretty much text-book evil. And we have American complicity to thank for that. Apart from our dueling governments and military, Indians and Pakistanis are pretty similar, values and all.

So why do we use their govt as an acceptable baseline for behavior? It's like saying, I'm bad, but not as bad as Milosevic or Kim Jong Il. It's ludicrous.
10:09 AM on 08/25/2011
This is not surprising - India is littered with the graves of dead terrorists sponsored by Pakistan.

1. In 2008, 10 Pakistani terrorists attacked Mumbai, murdering some 160 people. One terrorist, Kasab, was taken alive, but the rest were killed. Although Kasab confessed he was sent by the Lashkar-e-Toiba, a terrorist outfit sponsored by Pakistan, and we know the identities of the dead terrorists, Pakistan has refused to acknowledge they are Pakistanis. The storyline in Pakistan is that these were Indian Hindus who were on a false-flag operation - a "Hindu-Zionist conspiracy". The 9 Pakistani bodies are still mouldering somewhere in India.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/17/mumbai.bodies/

2. In 1999, Pakistan sent thousands of soldiers dressed in civilian clothes into Indian Kashmir in the Kargil and Dras sections. After the fighting ended, India was left with hundreds of bodies that Pakistan refused to take back since the official Pakistani line was that none of its soldiers were involved in the fighting, even though it was established that these men were Pakistani Northern Light Infantry.
http://archives.dawn.com/2004/07/27/int11.htm

This pattern of behavior goes back to 1948.The US spends a lot of effort recovering bodies of fallen US servicemen, so the Pakistani norm of refusing to take back the bodies of its servicemen and citizen-terrorists, let alone local Kashmiri terrorists trained by Pakistan, will seem shocking. But this is the reality we deal with in India.
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Allaah knows best
05:31 AM on 08/25/2011
Kashmir not the only state Indian government has attacked and killed many who were involved in the Naxalite movement in West Bengal, bombing of Mijoram and the attack on the Golden Temple.

http://indian-defence-forces.blogspot.com/2010/04/1966-iaf-bombing-of-aizwal-mizoram.html

Indira helped Bangladesh, but she was a cruel to many of her own people maybe that is why her family has been punished this way.
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songs of the shamans...
12:05 PM on 08/25/2011
"Indira helped Bangladesh"

I suggest instead "INDIA helped Bangladesh" [against a rampaging Pakistan].
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Gail Cerridwen
05:25 AM on 08/25/2011
This is such a beautiful region of the world and so full of ancient animosities. These seem to be merely new twists on old rivalries of culture and religion, maybe even going back thousands of years to Aryan invasions? When I was in India long ago, I could see the sparks fly whenever Muslims and Hindus were in the same space. One poster here spoke about India's system of "accountability" but I recalled a state legal official bragging to me about systematically breaking the legs of criminals in the worst places so they'd be crippled for life. I have no clue what the solutions might be to these complex problems but I also have no doubt that colonization is still showing its scars on India. (Is it a different form of colonization in Kashmir now?)
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knightoftheroundtable
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11:06 PM on 08/24/2011
Called population control, we use it in our conflicts also.
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season555
Allaah knows best
05:14 AM on 08/25/2011
So sad EVERY Government does it to stay in power. I am sure they will find mass graves in Libya soon.

If it was in Pakistan I wouldn't have been surprised, the problem is the Indian government claims to be the world's largest democracy.

http://hellinparadise.150m.com/dralistairlamb.htm
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Think free and you shall be
09:55 PM on 08/24/2011
Pakistan with the help of it's Arab patrons, changed the nature of the separatist movement in Kashmir. It used to be mostly secular Nationalists in 1980s. Then during Zia's time, Pakistan started to infiltrate and establish the Wahabi extremists.
Any illusion that the separatists were Kashmiri Nationalists is completely gone now. Their cause has been taken over by religious fanatics and used to raise money from all over the world.
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season555
Allaah knows best
10:12 PM on 08/24/2011
I have heard that East and West Pakistan were peace full under Ayub Khan, but then men like Yahya Khan, Bhutto came to power and their greed and willing to kill people broke Pakistan into 2 and then came men like Zia who were willing to destroy that part of the world to stay in power.

I wonder what will happen to Pakistan and Afghanistan in 10 years or so, and if their problem would spill over to other countries.
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Progressive forever
Think free and you shall be
08:59 PM on 08/25/2011
I think Afghanistan would expand, and finally claim back the former NWFP province of Pakistan along with many tribal areas.
Pakistan would disintegrate quite rapidly. The Irani and Pakistani Baluchistan areas would most likely combine to form an independent state. Sind has a serious genocide of ethnic urdu speaking population going on now.
I just hope that this failed state does not cause too many problems before its eventual demise.
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Susan Shaffer
tell me from the beginning
12:35 AM on 08/25/2011
it might have the veneer of religious extremists but in actual fact Kashmir is about water. Whoever controls the headwaters of the rivers of the subcontinent controls the subcontinent. Diverting a river can mean life or death to millions and millions of people.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
01:10 AM on 08/25/2011
Some veneer... you're an apologist for religious fanatics.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
09:18 PM on 08/24/2011
Some are saying that Kashmir should be given independen ce. Here is Kashmir separatist leader Geelani lionizing OBL upon his death. With such leaders... the world says "No Way!"

From: http://www .hindustan times.com/ Geelani-to -lead-pray ers-for-Os ama/Articl e1-693839. aspx

"The slain Laden had entire Muslim world's pain in him. He (Laden) left the life of leisure for the downtrodde n and suppressed Muslims of the world. So it’s our duty to repay his good deeds by praying for him," said Geelani."

World, do you hear this? -- "His good deeds..."

This is what India is up against... not just Mumbai 1, Mumbai 2 and Mumbai 3.
08:48 PM on 08/24/2011
It is always welcome that human rights groups take an interest in human lives and in their rights. But who is this particular "human rights group?". This particular group is an ISI Saudi Arabian intelligence financed outfit who had once as its patron Prince Turki bin Saud and has as an advisor three prominent ex ISI (Inter Service Intelligence) officers as advisors.

India's armed forces, its government and all its apparatus have to be accountable even where there is a war involved with some of the most barbaric elements imported into the region in the name of "Allah" to secure land that has always belonged to the Indians.

In short the Hindus because Hinduism is the culture of all thats India. It also has rituals of worship and adherence to God so the British and Muslims called it religion and for argument it shall remain religion.

India unlike unlike Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and all of Islam has a system of accountability and responsibility however faulty and human. It will be a dark day for all of mankind if thats to be replaced by the barbaric crude Shariah and the ISI.
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12:34 AM on 08/25/2011
Amnesty International said the investigation of graves in three regions also needs to be widened to all of the Indian-controlled portion of the disputed Himalayan territory.

"All unmarked grave sites must be secured and investigations carried out by impartial forensic experts," the London-based group said in a statement late Monday.

The Jammu-Kashmir State Human Rights Commission said in a recent report that 2,156 unidentified bodies were found in graves in three northern mountainous regions, while 574 other bodies in the graves were identified as local residents.
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11:12 AM on 08/25/2011
Hindusim is a religion.

Hinduism is formed of diverse traditions and has no single founder. Among its roots is the historical Vedic religion of Iron Age India and, as such, Hinduism is often called the "oldest living religion" or the "oldest living major religion" in the world.

It doesn't have an aderence to God - they worship many gods.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
11:50 AM on 08/25/2011
HuffPo blogger Ramdas Lamb speaks to your point... defines the interdependent notions of monotheism, polytheism and monism within "Hinduism".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ramdas-lamb/polytheism-and-monotheism_b_841905.html
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season555
Allaah knows best
08:08 PM on 08/24/2011
People don't pick up guns and fight because they are living peace, they fight because they want freedom and justices.

Both my parents fought in 1971 for independence from Pakistan, then the USA was against them because of friendship with Pakistan.

Today they would be considered terrorist because they are Muslims, and would probably be bombed by drones, to help those Pakistanis.
08:55 PM on 08/24/2011
Like they do in Libya, in Afghanistan, Irak, Syria and Pakistan with each other, Muhajeers vs the other Babarians? Some people fight because there is money and power in it. The Mafia is one such example from Europe's most Civilized state remnants of the Roman Empire.

In Indonesia Suharto a devout Muslim killed over 3,500,000 of his people because "he wanted to be free of responsibility and accountability and live like the Caliphs and Sheiks". True whats wrong with that? In a civilized society which is non Muslim everything is wrong with that.

It is worrying that when people ar beheaded in a barbaric ritual without trial after Friday prayers do not fight back or are killed with impunity in front of the world. If they do nothing then they are more than "not free". They are Muslim. There is a war of cultures and world's and Muslims were imported into India. They are not a natural part of India. Hinduism is older than Islam and its crude barbaric culture. Lets see peaceful educated Muslims first then argue for their place in the sun. Israel too is ready for that day.
03:24 AM on 08/25/2011
Hopefully, it's because you don't get out much....
11:49 AM on 08/25/2011
Ah, another troll masquerading under a false name. Don't bring Israel into this because they have nothing to do with it.

Get a life and be proud of your ethnicity!
08:59 PM on 08/24/2011
welcome to the club , I do have my father military hand book on it it is clearly written terroridst of first class . What is even more interesting because they werte not the approved party , their military supplies dropped by the american had gun and amunitions usually 100 miles away , they had to cross the enemy territory some where caught and executed . meanwhiler the Americans were double talking with the enemy even funding them . love the internet .
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07:33 PM on 08/24/2011
India needs to let Kashmir go -

There of course needs to be an investigation and the Indian authorities reponsibile for ordering these mass killing rooted out and imprisoned.
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08:22 PM on 08/24/2011
Why should India let Kashmir go? Kashmir was always and will always be a of India. It is Pakistan which has warred with India 3 times over Kashmir as the then Hindu ruler of Kashmir had decided to stay with India and not go over to Pakistan. It is Pakistan which has introduced terrorism into Kashmir and turned Kashmir into an international issue after losing the wars.

As for Indian authorities being responsible, is there any proof? If India was responsible, then India would not have publicized these graves.
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piul05
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08:38 PM on 08/24/2011
Interesting logic that of yours, which says much about the "brand" of democracy India has.

So the Hindu ruler "decides" to stay with India (surprise, surprise), even though 95% of the population, which is Muslim (2003 census) would have chosen otherwise, had the plebiscite taken place.

"In the last days of 1948, a ceasefire was agreed under UN auspices, but since the plebiscite demanded by the UN was never conducted, relations between India and Pakistan soured,[35] and eventually led to two more wars over Kashmir in 1965 and 1999. India has control of about half the area of the former princely state of Jammu and Kashmir, while Pakistan controls a third of the region, the Northern Areas and Azad Kashmir. According to Encyclopædia Britannica, "Although there was a clear Muslim majority in Kashmir before the 1947 partition and its economic, cultural, and geographic contiguity with the Muslim-majority area of the Punjab (in Pakistan) could be convincingly demonstrated, the political developments during and after the partition resulted in a division of the region. Pakistan was left with territory that, although basically Muslim in character, was thinly populated, relatively inaccessible, and economically underdeveloped. The largest Muslim group, situated in the Valley of Kashmir and estimated to number more than half the population of the entire region, lay in Indian-administered territory, with its former outlets via the Jhelum valley route blocked."[36]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir
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Susan Shaffer
tell me from the beginning
12:38 AM on 08/25/2011
what about the moslem majority at the time of partition that did not want to be part of india? who matters more one single Hindu ruler or the majority of his moslem citizens?
12:35 AM on 08/26/2011
What???

How about Pakistani society stops persecuting the non-Muslims in its midst.