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Court Limits Use Of Standardized Tests To Evaluate N.Y. Teachers

First Posted: 08/24/11 09:00 PM ET Updated: 10/24/11 06:12 AM ET

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NEW YORK -- Teachers unions have the right to collectively bargain over almost every component of teacher evaluations, an Albany County (N.Y.) Supreme Court judge ruled Wednesday afternoon, dealing a blow to those who think teacher reviews should be based heavily on objective data.

"This is a huge step backward and a slap in the face of Gov. [Andrew] Cuomo and Chancellor Merryl Tisch," said Joe Williams, who heads Democrats for Education Reform. "Even worse, a mediocre teacher evaluation system just got even weaker. This is a huge win for the teachers unions."

In response to a complaint by New York State United Teachers (NYSUT), the trial court ruled that state standardized test scores can count for up to 20 percent -- not 40 percent, as Tisch's regulations demanded -- of teacher evaluations. The criteria for the other 20 percent must be collectively bargained at a local level.

"It's a strong decision that upholds the collective bargaining process," NYSUT president Richard Iannuzzi told The Huffington Post.

The New York State Education Department plans to appeal the ruling, arguing that it limits the effectiveness of evaluations by allowing teachers whose students show no improvement to be deemed effective.

"We can’t have an evaluation system that permits a teacher who scores a zero on student achievement to receive a positive rating," education Commissioner John B. King Jr. said in a statement. "This decision is not consistent with the legislative intent, and it’s certainly not what our students need. ... We’ll explore every avenue, including new legislation, to turn this around."

The court decision comes as state legislatures across the country move to consider student achievement data in the hiring, evaluation and firing of teachers. These laws were largely inspired by Race to the Top, a national grant competition directed by U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, that requires, among other things, that states be legally able to connect teacher evaluations to test scores.

Two years ago, NYSUT helped legislators draft a law in preparation for the state's Race to the Top application that allowed student test scores to count for 20 percent of evalutions and mandated that another 20 percent be linked to "other, locally selected measures of student achievement ... [that] are developed locally." New York won $697 million in Race to the Top funding.

Earlier this summer, the New York State Board of Regents adopted regulations saying that state test scores could count for up to 40 percent of evaluations. In late June, NYSUT filed a complaint alleging that the board had overstepped its bounds.

New York's Race to the Top application -- and the underlying state law -- were rife with holes, according to journalist Steven Brill in his new book "Class Warfare: The Fight To Fix America's Schools." Clauses that made the entire evaluation process contingent on union negotiations, he said, prevented enforcement. "This decision is totally predictable," Brill told HuffPost. "You can't fill loopholes by promulgating regulations." His book said that even New York City schools chancellor Joel Klein thought the law was a joke. Klein did not immediately return a request for comment.

"If you're Arne Duncan, you have an obligation to realize that a state is not complying and cannot comply with the promises it made when it got this money -- you stop writing checks to them," Brill said.

In his ruling, Justice Michael Lynch held that because the law stresses that teachers must be rated based on collectively bargained "multiple measures," state tests can count for only 20 percent. But, he wrote, if "other data can be derived from the state assessments to define a distinctly different measure of student achievement," that measure could count for the second 20 percent, as long as it was developed locally through collective bargaining.

"That's like saying if a man had wings, he'd be permitted to fly," said Iannuzzi, the union president.

The state education department interpreted the ruling differently. "The Court rejected NYSUT’s argument that the regulations could not allow state assessments to be used by local school districts for up to 40 percent of teacher evaluations," the department said in a statement.

Lynch also wrote that the state cannot prescribe the allocation of the remaining 60 percent of reviews. He held that the state's scoring thresholds for rating a teacher ineffective, developing, effective or highly effective are invalid -- which means in practice that teachers can't be rated "ineffective" based only on student performance.

The ruling also extended protections for probationary teachers. That "piece is the icing on the cake," said Iannuzzi. He said the court had made it clear that if the revised evaluation process can be used for decisions to grant tenure, "then it obviously must be considered before denying tenure."

Lynch's ruling upheld a component of the regulations that would speed up the teacher termination process.

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hawkseye
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10:00 PM on 08/28/2011
The disrespect of teachers may have reached its peak this year. Let us hope it will begin to decline.
Bless this judge.
11:28 PM on 08/27/2011
This should have been done everywhere long ago!
Its time for the teachers to earn their blown out salary/benefits.
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Ariel Bonzai
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07:35 AM on 08/27/2011
This judge and the one who slapped down that ugly business about Facebook bans for teachers in the Show Me state are doing their job, which is to uphold the constitution. Teachers'contracts are being wantonly violated all over the country while many Americans urge the witch hunts on because they believe our unions have insulated us from accountability while securing benefits and wages we do not deserve. Nothing could be further than the truth or more misguided.
Those saying ouragious things about teachers are more mob than concerned citizens; they dont see how they too will suffer when this kind of nonsense is allowed.. Testmakers, districts (administrators/school officials, NOT teachers) philathropists, lawmakers and unions ( NOT teachers) are the reason our schools are in such contentious and unacceptable conditions. Maybe 20% of the teachers are part of the problem--administrators are well paid to oversee them and if a teacher is unfit, all the school has to do is prove it--and truth is not even this is really necessary. tests prove nothing but the million$ companies and districts are remiss in duties--there is a security issue voiding all results anyway. tests only evaluate some with unfair rubric that gauges a kids profeciency not teachers'. If Juan didnt learn English in 4th grade and gave up in 5th they pay for it when he is socially promoted to 9th. There is 40%+margin of error, cheating scandals eruptingeverywhere. Somebody screwed up-- but not teachers. Good judge!
06:08 PM on 08/26/2011
The entire educational system is doing one thing, teaching to a test. If its not on the test, as far as the classroom is concerned, it doesn't exist. This isn't making the educational system better in any way.

Unlike private schools, a public school has no say over the students it gets. For example, if you get a lot of ELL or SPED students, which is where many schools fail to meet AYP. An 8th grade sped student who is working at the 2nd grade level through out the entire year (which is why he is in SPED) is still expected to pass an 8th grade test. How does that make any sense? He is working at the 2nd grade level because he has some kind of learning impairment. so how can he be expected to pass his grade level test? Its as if the system is setup to fail.

Also, the idea that 100% of any school will pass AYP is not realistic. This whole system was suppose to be addressed by congress years ago, but they have done nothing. Thpousands of schools are in corrective action for not meeting AYP costing millions of dollas ($200,000-$400,000 per school in my state). The system may be setup to fail, but these companies are making a lot of money.
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Ariel Bonzai
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07:38 AM on 08/27/2011
You said it!
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03:48 AM on 08/26/2011
When a student takes a standardized test, there are many things to take into consideration. First, some students are not good test takers. Whether it is testing anxiety or some other issue over which a teacher has no control, some students just do not do well on tests. Second, when a teacher is being rated as good or bad, based upon a test, that teacher may teach to the test even more than ever. This will result in a less rounded and complete education. Standardized testing limits a teacher in the classroom, and ultimately provides students with a lesser opportunity for learning.
As a high school teacher who is pushed on testing, I have had to "dumb down" my classroom content. I have been pushed by my district to get higher scores at whatever cost. It is very frustrating because it ultimately hurts students. Aren't we supposedly trying to improve education? Increased standardized testing creates adults who do not question authority, and increasingly makes our society more docile in the face of lessening civil liberties.
11:12 PM on 08/25/2011
I'm quite glad we're moving in this direction. I don't think it's fair to penalize teachers for not "teaching for the test" when they're teaching really well, getting their students motivated to learn their subject, and giving them lots of knowledge on their subjects. Sure, it's harder to gauge which is this kind of great teacher and which is the teacher lazing about, but we need to find different ways of testing for that. Perhaps more people sitting in on classrooms to see if the teaching style is engaging and effective? Not saying I have the answers, but I like this kind of legislation.
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Ariel Bonzai
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07:49 AM on 08/27/2011
For someone outside our profession you really have some solid insights. It is absolutely true that if I have ESL and Special eduvcation classes 40 large in my English class it is unreasonable for my scores to compete with those of white rich kids in a rich area, but that is absolutely how it works. We have been routinely scolded because our heavily Hispanic population does so poorly while the wealthiest schools is thron up as evidence of our incompetence. In a waelthy area, parents insist on PTA, minium class size and become a built in form of quality control. These exams are not too difficult unless you are a non native speaker from another country effected by the cultural bias built into the them.There are studies to prove it and there are so few samples available it begs the question. Test companies know this, the problems with cheating and adequate evaluations. This is why the test is not ab=vailable the way AP examss and Exit tests are. if they did we'd see obtuse language, boredom and answers that aren't straight and recall it.
06:34 PM on 08/25/2011
What do expect to happen when our state education department is headed by a “leader” with very little experience or credibility. The court is simply pointing out the obvious. Mr. King and his supporters have no real ideas to make New York’s schools any better other than to scapegoat teachers. It almost seems they are doing everything in their power to crash the whole system. For example, Mr. King’s letter this week to the state school superintendents dictating a change in the 4-8 test schedule. For my district it means giving the state tests the very day our students return from spring break. Yea, that ought to work out well. It’s time for the Manhattan socialite who heads the Board of Regents to cut this fool loose.
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22Keys
05:46 PM on 08/25/2011
Poor teachers, excellent teachers

Poor students, excellent students

These four groups of people actually exist (and everyone else in between).

These are two continuums. It is unreasonable to blame all poor results on the teachers.
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Ariel Bonzai
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07:54 AM on 08/27/2011
i am not sure this works as a syllogism and i really want it to. explain.
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spoonbill1963
03:13 PM on 08/25/2011
Let's dumb down the system even more.
Great work, judge.
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Ganapati Edu
From negative to positive.
04:10 PM on 08/25/2011
The tests are dumbing down the system.
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Ariel Bonzai
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07:58 AM on 08/27/2011
No, he just took it up a notch or two. The test is not an adequate way to evaluate teacher performance. Come on. Bring it up a bit. There is so many flaws in this rubric and the previous exams are not viable since tey were neot secure in the first place. Teaching to a test is no more than conditioning rote memory. How much will this do for a student intellectially? At best he may read as closely as you do.
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wayne the pain
02:26 PM on 08/25/2011
I don't know what standardizes test show? Recent studies indicate that they show very little. The SAT is to show potential success in college and little else. Some misguided fanatic decided that these test could show anything they wanted them to show. The absurdity was that they began to claim that these test showed the effectiveness of a teacher. Rating teachers on test scores makes as much sense as rating cancer doctors on their patients death rate!
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Ariel Bonzai
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08:08 AM on 08/27/2011
SAT is an extremely challenging exam. As is ACT. Both are designed for college bound students. We need to realize not everyone is going to college. Colleges can enroll maybe 30% of graduates. We act like all of tehm have to go or they are failures and so are the HS teachers. The school leaders flunk out because they do not address vocational studies, work release programs, internships and continuation schools. In fact when you hear 50% dont graduiate you should 15% or more are transg=fers, early graduates, occupational or alternative transplants, not drop outs. There is actually no way to get on accurate count of them either since people who are transient dont check out administrators dont check up on them.We need a test. An exit exam that reflects literacy, writing skills, and math comprehension to qualify for a diploma. Writing has to be included.Teachers must be evaluated with observations (prefer an objective 3rd party), student evaluations and progress from where they were in the class when it began.Records, role books and attendace can be factored in. Why is this so difficult?
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BoudiccaBlanc
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01:29 PM on 08/25/2011
Finally some light at the end of the tunnel.

Can we just repeal N.C.L.B. and restore education to the States?

According to the US Constitution; the States have the right and responsibility to educate their citizens; it is not a duty of the Federal Government!
01:35 PM on 08/25/2011
yes thats true, and its why nclb is technically optional. just waiting for that first state to give up that tenth of their revenues so they dont have to comply... also waiting for some pigs to fly by...
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BoudiccaBlanc
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03:06 PM on 08/25/2011
That may well be something that the Federal government will have to cut. It has to trim it's expenses; and the fact that it's "unconstitutional" might be a good reason to cut it.

Plus, there would be the added benefit of downsizing the Dept. of Education to a department that is purely a "advisor" regarding text books, tests, etc.
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spoonbill1963
03:14 PM on 08/25/2011
The Huffies want the feds to take over everything including telling us which light bulb to use.
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Eric Mann
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10:18 PM on 08/25/2011
When it comes to which light bulb to use, we here on the Left happen to have the facts on our sides. I want there to be enough energy resources for my grandchildren-don't you?
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12:16 PM on 08/25/2011
What the ruling basically says is that test scores can only count for 20% of the evaluation. What the other 20% comes from must be negotiated with the union.

Putting the best spin on this is that it puts the union in a position of having to come up with a fair and objective way to evaluate teachers. If they do not, they will be literally torn apart in the press.
12:35 PM on 08/25/2011
I don't think the unions can take much more of a kicking around in the press than they take already.
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spoonbill1963
03:14 PM on 08/25/2011
Ah yes, the union. We must keep them happy.
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03:52 AM on 08/26/2011
Just a short reminder, unions gave us a 5 day and 40 hour work week. I for one am happy I am not working 6 days a week and 14 hours per day. If unions were stronger the rights of workers would not be in such serious decline today.
11:38 AM on 08/25/2011
Imagine paying doctors based on the health of their patients. Smokers, diabetics, obese, etc...
06:31 PM on 08/25/2011
Now imagine some type of administrator who could give the sicker patients to the doctors that weren't suck-ups.

Better yet, imagine doctor pay would be based only on low blood pressure in their patients and that they could be fired if blood pressures got too high. Imagine blood pressure averages were going to be published as well for each clinic. Doctors would spend all their time on blood pressure and ignore other aspects of the health of their patients.
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Ariel Bonzai
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08:35 AM on 08/27/2011
OK--drug companies would tank. nurses would have time off, less likely to become addicts. fewer malpractice suits for docs, would make lawyers chase the same ambuance. people could come to their senses and be sane about birth control. a dr. would explain it, biology and why abstinence will not work. with dive in population the quality of everything, including teachers would improve because less is more. and the docs would discourage recklessness as a teacher, maybe i have more influence on kids than most docs do patients unless they employ hyberbole. most of mine dole out pills and make another appointment. it is up to me just as it is my students, to do what i am supposed to do unless i don't wanna.
a croacker has more to work with." if you keep eating/smoking/drinking, you die" usually resonates though we all die still.and some may be looking forward to that when . ."You are not going to graduate or get a degree" is pretty pathetic rhetoric. All studnet has to do is look at his teacher to see an advanced degree is a dead end that puts you in deep debt and GED is a breeze he'll pass first try as often as not so why stick around? so they can be counted and an administrator keeps her job and that jag?
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roaddawg31
11:35 AM on 08/25/2011
Teachers don't like this... but the reason something like this has come to pass is because the "unfireable" nature of their profession has built up a glut of mediocrity in the teaching ranks. (I know teachers will quickly fire back and say, "We can be fired" blah blah blah. I KNOW. You "can". But you all know that while it "can" happen, it doesn't.)

The problem that's been caused by this "guaranteed" employment is there is no natural selection to act, to gently pare down the ranks, culling the "weaker" members of the herd and ensuring a healthy balance.

What we have now is an overpopulation of bloated, complacent workers in our classrooms... with a massive backlog of new talent unable to enter the workforce. And as a result, efforts like this emerge. I'm not a fan of testing to determine teacher effectiveness, but I certainly understand the effort.
12:04 PM on 08/25/2011
Do you have any facts to support this?
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roaddawg31
12:25 PM on 08/25/2011
Well, no.
How would you measure mediocrity? How would you measure (mild) apathy? How can you measure complacency? Look, I'm not an administrator, I'm not someone involved in education system policy, or in any official capacity. But I have been in/around the system for the better part of a decade, through three school districts (of all socio-economic status) and probably between 500-1000 class environments over the years. I have seen many outstanding classrooms (i.e. teachers). I've seen some bad teachers (not as many as teacher-bashers will have you believe). And I HAVE SEEN mediocre/complacent teachers.

But since you take my comments as an attack, you'll probably dismiss my opinion because I don't have any "facts" to support it. Think of me like the canary in the coal mine.
12:36 PM on 08/25/2011
You don't have to be a teacher to know that teachers can be fired if they get too complacent, or that most of them work very hard to help kids. You just have to know what you're talking about.
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12:55 PM on 08/25/2011
You don't have to be a teacher to know that teachers can be fired if they get too complacent­, serious? have you heard of tenure? You really don't know what you are talking about. It is very difficult to let teachers go.
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10:08 AM on 08/26/2011
Finally, charter vs public is a huge debate and no one is better than the other, it depends on a variety of items. All the reports on charter schools vs public schools highlight the challenge of rating schools with huge differences in resources, methods and students. Research over the years has shown pluses and minuses for the charter movement.

"The people who said this was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread were wrong," said Robert Maranto, a University of Arkansas professor of education reform, who counts himself in that group. "The people who said it would be a calamity were equally wrong."

Nice try on making charter schools out to be the worst thing since sliced bread.
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wayne the pain
11:30 AM on 08/25/2011
So called objective data in standardized testsdoes not exist. Teaching is like medicine. You can provide the best information possible what the patient or student does with it is up to them as much as it is to the doctor or the teacher. There are may good ways to evaluate teachers! The best way is for teachers to evaluate other teachers. Teachers should hire their colleagues, teachers should evaluate their colleagues and teachers should and will dismiss their incompetent colleagues. That will make teaching a real profession!
11:37 AM on 08/25/2011
That's pretty much how it works at the school I work in. We DO get rid of weak teachers. I wish I could say the same for administrators.