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Robo-Signing Practices Older, More Pervasive Than First Thought

By PALLAVI GOGOI   09/ 1/11 09:50 PM ET   AP

NEW YORK -- Counties across the United States are discovering that illegal or questionable mortgage paperwork is far more widespread than thought, tainting the deeds of tens of thousands of homes dating to the late 1990s.

The suspect documents could create legal trouble for homeowners for years.

Already, mortgage papers are being invalidated by courts, insurers are hesitant to write policies, and judges are blocking banks from foreclosing on homes. The findings by various county registers of deeds have also hindered a settlement between the 50 state attorneys general who are investigating big banks and other mortgage lenders over controversial mortgage practices.

The problem of shoddy mortgage paperwork, which comprises several shortcuts known collectively as "robo-signing," led the nation's largest banks, including Bank of America Corp., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Wells Fargo & Co., and other lenders to temporarily halt foreclosures nationwide last fall.

At the time, "robo-signing" was thought to be contained to the affidavits that banks file when a mortgage is issued and somebody buys a house. The documents are used to prove they have the right foreclosure if the homeowner isn't making mortgage payments. Companies that process mortgages said they were so overwhelmed with paperwork that they cut corners.

But now, as county officials review years' worth of mortgage paperwork, in some cases combing through one page at a time, they are finding suspect signatures – either signed with the same name by dozens of different people, improperly notarized or signed without a review of the facts in the paperwork – on all sorts of mortgage documents, dating as far back as 1998, The Associated Press has found.

"Because of these bad titles, property owners can't prove they own the properties they think they bought, and banks can't prove they had the right to sell them," says Jeff Thigpen, the registrar of deeds in Guilford County, N.C.

In Guilford County, where Greensboro is located, a sample of 6,100 mortgage documents filed since 2006 turned up 74 percent with questionable signatures. Thigpen says his office received 456 more documents with suspect signatures from Oct. 1 through June 30.

The suspect signatures found by Thigpen and other registrars around the country were on documents from the banks involved in the temporary foreclosure halt and others.

Widespread robo-signing that stretches back a decade or more could create problems for homeowners. Regulators have so far not asked lenders to clean up the potentially millions of suspect documents filed in the past decade or earlier. That troubles some banking experts, including Sheila Bair, who until early July was chairwoman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

"We do not yet really know the full extent of the problem," Bair said in written remarks to the Senate Banking Committee. She and others have called for a comprehensive study on the extent of the fraudulent signatures in mortgage documents.

If documents with robo-signed signatures are challenged in court, judges could question the ownership of the properties, says Katherine Porter, a professor at University of California Irvine School of Law and an expert on consumer credit law. The consequences extend to homeowners in good standing when they try to sell.

If invalid documents are discovered in the chain of ownership, it could delay the sale or make it difficult for buyers to get a mortgage because title insurers won't write a policy for the property, says Justin Ailes, vice president of government affairs of the American Land Title Association, a trade association representing the title insurance industry. Banks and other mortgage lenders won't write a home loan without title insurance.

Among the findings shared with The Associated Press by county officials from several states:

_ An investigation of mortgage documents in the county that includes Salem, Mass., found that more than 25,000 had suspect signatures. The earliest date to 1998, says John O'Brien, the registrar of deeds there.

_ In Michigan, the state attorney general has sent criminal subpoenas to three companies that processed mortgage paperwork after 24 local recorders of deeds looked through their files and found rampant robo-signing.

_ An Illinois county, Kankakee, pulled a sample of 60 documents filed since 2007 to look for suspect signatures. All 60 were "signed" by people who have been identified as robo-signers. At least 12 county officials in Illinois have sent their findings to the state attorney general.

The results of these reviews are troubling to the registers of deeds in counties across the country. It's the job of these officials to record documents on property transfers, and they say, they need to be able to trust that notarized paperwork is legitimate.

"I want papers that come into our office to be clean," says Lori Gadbois, the recorder of deeds in Kankakee County, whose office handles more than 15,000 mortgage documents in a typical month.

Many banks began outsourcing paperwork at the beginning of the housing boom around 1998. That's when an increasing number of home loans were being packaged into securities on Wall Street and sold off to global investors. As demand skyrocketed, lenders and mortgage processing firms hired entry-level employees to sign hundreds of mortgage documents a day.

Sometimes they forged the signatures of executives who were qualified to sign. Other times, actual executives signed the documents without verifying their accuracy. Many of the documents were stamped by notaries even though the people who had signed the documents weren't present when the papers were notarized, a requirement by law. All are instances of robo-signing, and are potentially illegal.

The 50 state attorneys general have been negotiating a settlement with major lenders over robo-signing and other bad mortgage practices. Analysts say it could top $20 billion. But the attorneys general of some states, including New York, Massachusetts, Illinois, Delaware and California, have balked because banks have demanded a release from all future liability on past mortgage practices or the mortgage-backed securities they sold to investors.

Meanwhile, federal bank regulators have focused on getting banks to clean up their act in the future, not on fixing the potentially millions of tainted documents that have been filed in land record offices in counties across the country.

Robo-signing came to light last fall, when the largest banks halted foreclosures for several months to clean up their paperwork problem. The lenders promised last fall to stop the practice. But The Associated Press reported in July that robo-signing has continued. Officials in at least four states say mortgage documents with suspect signatures have been filed with counties in recent months. The revelation led to calls for Congressional hearings.

On Thursday, the mortgage unit of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. agreed to stop robo-signing and other controversial mortgage practices under an agreement with New York state's banking regulator. The Federal Reserve, meanwhile, launched a formal enforcement action against the unit, Litton Loan Servicing, ordering it to review foreclosure proceedings from 2009 and 2010.

"The banks are playing with the integrity of the land record system," says John O'Brien, the recorder of deeds from Salem, Mass.

The documents that are filed in county deed offices are legal affidavits that transfer loans from one bank to another in a sale, refinancing, or foreclosure and certify if a loan has been paid off. They verify that there are no claims against the property.

Robo-signing could ultimately invalidate tens of thousands of home ownership documents, say legal experts.

In addition to delaying regular sales, banks could be blocked from foreclosing even if the homeowner falls behind on mortgage payments for the same reasons.

That's already happening.

Judges who handle foreclosures in Maine, California, Arizona, New York and other states have thrown out foreclosure cases if documents contain signatures of known robo-signers.

On July 1, a state judge in Brooklyn ruled that HSBC lacked the legal authority to foreclose on homeowner Ellen Taher because the mortgage documents that accompanied the filing were signed by at least three known robo-signers.

In May, a Maine judge dismissed another foreclosure involving HSBC, calling mortgage documents presented in a case untrustworthy because they contained signatures of one person posing as three different people. HSBC spokesman Neil Brazil says another company handled the mortgage paperwork in the New York case, and the bank is working with regulators to address and resolve issues related to robo-signing.

Registrars like Thigpen in North Carolina and O'Brien in Massachusetts say they have taken their findings to federal authorities. Except for a call from the North Carolina attorney general's office, though, Thigpen says he has been ignored for months.

Deed offices in North Carolina and Massachusetts have stopped recording documents if they contain signatures of names known to be part of the robo-signing scandal. Such actions could delay new sales. O'Brien, the recorder of deeds from Massachusetts, says he's only responsible for one county out of more than 3,000 in the U.S.

"Federal regulators with a lot more authority than me have to step up to the plate and help correct this," he says.

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Associated Press business writer Michelle Conlin contributed to this report.

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NEW YORK -- Counties across the United States are discovering that illegal or questionable mortgage paperwork is far more widespread than thought, tainting the deeds of tens of thousands of homes dati...
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10:43 AM on 09/04/2011
Anyone notice how Obama administration does not recruit as advisors those who helped resolve the Savings & Loan debacle debris? Some of those people are out there, their experience not being used to solve the current, larger mess. What use are history and experience?

"The Administration is now proposing the transfer of significant defaulted mortgages and foreclosed properties held by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration (“FHA”) to large national institutional investors. ... Such a transfer is not economic — other than for the large investors and to serve a wider agenda of social control and engineering, including gentrification of numerous areas whose former residents were fraudulently induced and evicted with the use of these mortgages." - Catherine Austin Fitts

She recommends ebay style auctions in which individuals can purchase foreclosed property or some accomdation to local governments (cities, counties) that may want to buy and oversee housing in their area. Individual and local is better than international slumlord ownership. It is possible to clear title, quiet title suit, but it costs and is somewhat a gamble. Let the little guys and little governments have a chance.
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dblohangel
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03:11 PM on 09/03/2011
Does anyone think the county officials might have suspected the jurisdiction was losing lots of revenue in fees with all those transfers that went through at the minimum rate of $100 each rather than the true calculated cost per transaction for documentary stamps at say 70 cents per hundred or 35 cents per hundred...that perhpas the robo-signing activity was part of the rip off the counties for fees strategy to get the real estate everywhere?
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11:04 AM on 09/03/2011
heard a very good attorney explain the robosigning as "robo perjury"
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dblohangel
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03:12 PM on 09/03/2011
Was that a lawyer out of Ohio name of Watson, Jeff Watson?
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thisoldbroad
I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist
09:19 AM on 09/03/2011
I still think these companies & the Robo-signers should be prosecuted under the RICO Act. This is a perfect example of racketeering, securities fraud & theft on an interstate level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rico_act
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dblohangel
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03:12 PM on 09/03/2011
I agree with you.
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04:42 AM on 09/03/2011
No, really? The positions/jobs are always the same, just going by different names? Institutional practices have been corrupt for a very long time? Oh my, I would never have guessed. Cue laugh track again.
12:09 AM on 09/03/2011
Yesterday the recorder of deeds in the county where I work told me she found "Linda Green" in her office, Linda Green name with different style signatures, along with other known names wiith varying signatures.

Last week my brother told me about several people in the next county who were trying to buy homes but could not. The title insurance companies told them no and their lawyers told them no becaues of flawed title. One reason a title company says no is the possibility that someone else may lay claim to an ownership interest.

Real estate title doesn't allow ownership of a "thing" or object. Instead, title defines some right to use a piece of geography, land rights, water rights, easements, owned in common, jointly, singly, etc. Real estate title is technical, not something to be forged, signed without knowledge or falsely notarized.
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NickTAZ
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09:51 PM on 09/02/2011
Think of how much slower the foreclosure rate would have been had they been relying on people to fill out all the paperwork (paperwork takes time!). I wonder if that would have delayed our recovery because of the slowing down process or if it would have lessoned the blow to economy by not hitting us all at once.

It's unquantifiable questions such as this that make all economics a guessing game.
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12:08 AM on 09/03/2011
Think how much better off we would all be if the banks just obeyed the friggin law!
12:16 AM on 09/03/2011
It could be worse than people swearing to have checked information on documents they signed - when they didn't check anything.

There are some depositions and other information saying that one of the biggest mortgage originators disposed of the originals almost immediately. In other words, the mortgages papers were not delivered to trustees for mortgage backed securities. Which means the mortgage securities may not actually be mortgage backed. Interesting thought. Guy named Farkas was selling the same mortgage to three different entities. One wonders if others sold them several times, too. More money in the pocket immediately, but who owns the note and right to foreclose?

To see a video of pro bono Maine attorney Cox deposing an ordinary robosigner Jeffrey Stephan, Google it up. Hope nobody has taken it down. This was one of the first recorded robosigner testimonies.
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thisoldbroad
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09:27 AM on 09/03/2011
Written deposition..
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33129394/2nd-Deposition-of-Jeffrey-Stephan-–-GMAC-s-Assignment-Affidavit-Slave

Video..
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/09/meet-gmacs-robo-signer-jeffrey-stephan.html

Good grief! I vote to convict them all under the Rico Act!!
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02:35 PM on 09/02/2011
It just keeps getting better...:(
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GoogleAlphaPublishing
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09:13 AM on 09/02/2011
Yeah, that's the ticket. Focus on paperwork. Change the wording on a couple sentences having to do with how foreclosure paperwork is handled and maybe it'll appease a couple people. (sarcasm)

A big part of the foreclosure problem was people not being able to afford their increasing ARM and interest only loan payments, and inability to pay due to job losses. If people stop making payments on homes for whatever reason, wasn't it standard operating procedure to foreclose?

Now, years later, lots of news stories start popping up about improper handling of the paperwork. My gut instinct says the problem is being prolonged rather than corrected.
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GetRealSoon
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12:00 PM on 09/02/2011
The loans were qualified at debt to incomes reaching 80 to 90%, they never could afford the payments in the 1st place. The job losses, called no fault of their own, came after the media crisis announcements in 2008 but the financial sector was already well informed having its crisis in 2007.

The improper handling of paperwork is the only defense. The note and mortgage assignments are the only items that can be challenged in foreclosure. You can't go back to the origination and question the qualifying financials. They know this.

Those news stories are on behalf of the middle class, seniors, and poor that got took in this predatory mortgage fraud game. The problem is so massive that your gut instinct is right. The sad part is after these people have lost their savings, homes, and jobs, the most they'll probably ever see if their lucky is a few bucks from a class action.
12:21 AM on 09/03/2011
Some have challenged under Truth in Lending Act and RESPA. After a while, there really wasn't much truth in lending. Also bait and switch as the last moment at the closing table to an exploding style loan when the borrower qualified for standard rate and term. Originators toward the end just wanted to make pocket money quick under the "I'll be gone" rubric. I'll be gone with the money before you realize it's a scam.
11:48 PM on 09/02/2011
What would you do if you found the title on 60% of the vehicles in the United States were flawed? Think that could cause a few problems? It might be more difficult to repossess vehicles, for the owner to sell them, etc. At least they could eventually be disposed of in a junk yard for recycling.

You cannot take geography, a piece of the earth, to a junk yard or dump, even if you demolish the building on it. Real estate is different so real estate title law was technical to minimize title mistakes. It is difficult and expensive to clear title once it has been muddied. Unclear title devalues property, may make it unsaleable. Fraudy lenders did not respect real estate law, did not care to do it right. They have vandalized land title for up to 60% of the people who borrowed to buy residential property - whether the borrowers are current or in default.
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05:28 AM on 09/02/2011
I'd say it's always been there on some level but actually started large scale with the Silverado-Resolution Trust deals.
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08:49 AM on 09/02/2011
Could you explain that with a little more detail ??? thanks
12:45 AM on 09/03/2011
Silverado refers to the Savings and Loan frauds in which regulation changed to allow a person with leverage (instead of cash investment) to control a savings and loan. Savings and loans previously were controled by local boards. Fraudy S&L's blew up the value of land holdings and loans beyond reality and CEO's looted false profits.

Google up William K. Black, former S&L debacle regulator who wrote the book "The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One." He's written on this financial crisis and there are some good videos with Bill Moyers and Dylan Ratigan, too. Black, who teaches about white collar crime at UMKC, said some people who caused the S&L disaster moved over to do the newer kind of fraudy lending that blew up our world in 2007-08.
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12:07 AM on 09/04/2011
^5 shadow013, and here I was just going to mention the robo signing that went on through Resolution Trust to liquidate properties immediately.
03:01 AM on 09/02/2011
Mortgages are insidious. Save your cash and buy in cash and prices will come down to you. Debt pushes higher so while it seems that you need debt to afford a home, in reality it is the opposite - the pervasive debt levels are what makes the home unaffordable. With cash only transactions prices fall.
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11:59 PM on 09/03/2011
Correct.

Mortgages are truly insidious. The ONLY *reason* mortgages exist is because housing prices are grossly inflated.
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02:20 AM on 09/02/2011
This is just out-and-out Fraud.

Clearly, these are not one-time lapses. Fraud needs to be punished so banks won't be tempted to do it again (look at slaps on the wrist as just another cost of doing business). Plus, real people at these banks need to be punished (jail time) so other bankers will be dissuaded from doing this ever again.
02:06 AM on 09/02/2011
I'm sure that when it comes time to fine or regulate the industry, all politicians will start to whine about how bad it is the goverment is getting involved, especially with a presidential election cycle starting up. Maybe we can squeeze the whole industry for enough money to pay back everyone for lost homes, wages, pensions et cetera.Nah, that will never happen, it would be un a mericaian.
01:19 AM on 09/02/2011
These bankers are so lazy that they can't even read over their own documents. Market Efficiency.
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10:50 PM on 09/01/2011
My guess is all the big banks have been doing such for many years! The investigations need to continue indefinitly and no settlements should be allowed with these crooked banks!
12:25 AM on 09/03/2011
About 1998 was when it started. Some people from the S&L period moved over to this kind of scam. Other big banks and businesses thought they could push into the real estate market to make big money. Some honest people already in the market got pushed out or went over to serving farm real estate.