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Mitt Romney, In His Book: 'American People Have Been.. Defrauded Out Of Their Social Security' [UPDATED]

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First Posted: 09/08/11 04:33 PM ET Updated: 11/08/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney's charge that Texas Gov. Rick Perry's views on Social Security are not only out of the conservative mainstream but make him virtually unelectable was the defining headline to emerge from Thursday night's presidential debate.

But it also revealed that Perry's campaign operation may not yet be completely up to speed, despite the fact that he is now the frontrunner.

Perry seemed blindsided by Romney's charge, arguing simply that the current economic situation justified blunt statements he has made in the past -- namely, that Social Security is a "Ponzi Scheme" and a "monstrous lie." Yet Perry left a more persuasive defense on the shelf: Romney has used similarly inflammatory language when discussing Social Security in the past.

"[T]he American people have been effectively defrauded out of their Social Security," Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, wrote in his 2010 book "No Apology." "In 1982, the government raised Social Security taxes with the intention of creating a surplus that could be set aside in some fashion for the baby boomers when they retired. But for the last thirty years, the surplus has been spent, not on retirement security, but on regular budget items."

“Let’s look at what would happen if someone in the private sector did a similar thing. Suppose two grandparents created a trust fund, appointed a bank as trustee, and instructed the bank to invest the proceeds of the trust fund so as to provide for their grandchildren’s education. Suppose further that the bank used the proceeds for its own purposes, so that when the grandchildren turned eighteen, there was no money for them to go to college. What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.”

There are distinctions between calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme, as Perry has, and Romney's argument that Americans have been defrauded out of its benefits and that the program's caretakers should be punished. But those distinctions aren't huge.

More distance exists between Perry and Romney's prospective remedies. The former has suggested that the program be administered by the states. The latter, in his book, offered four potential reforms: raise the Social Security tax rate (which he opposes); raise the retirement age (which he's intrigued by); change the payment structure of benefits (which he supports), and "individual retirement accounts" (which he backs, with reservations over the volatility of private markets).

Still, with Romney insisting during the debate that "under no circumstances" would he ever say Social Security was "a failure"; with his campaign blasting out press releases with headlines calling Perry "Reckless" and "Wrong" about the program; and with his advisers arguing, post-debate, that Perry couldn't possibly win the presidency, given his draconian views on Social Security, it's remarkable that Perry never brought up Romney's book.

The task was left to former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman's presidential campaign.

“Despite what Governor Romney's campaign wants you to believe, when it comes to out-of-the-mainstream attacks on social security, Rick Perry and Mitt Romney are two peas in a pod," Matt David, Hunstman's campaign manager, said in a press release on Thursday. "Governor Romney’s shameless pandering last night on social security is just another example of the problems with his 'say anything' approach to political campaigns."

Romney's campaign declined a request for comment.


UPDATE: 5:04 p.m.

Thursday evening, Rick Perry's campaign put out a press release highlighting Mitt Romney's past statements on Social Security. The text of the release is below:


Mitt Romney’s Social Insecurity
Despite Debate Posturing, Romney’s Writings Compare Social Security to a Criminal Enterprise

AUSTIN -- The Perry Campaign for President today contrasted former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney’s posturing on Social Security last night at the Reagan Library Presidential Debate with his recently published book, exposing his inconsistencies on the issue.

Last night, Romney said, “Under no circumstances would I ever say, by any measure, it’s a failure. It is working for millions of Americans.”

However, in his book “No Apology: The Case For American Greatness”, which was published just last year, Romney compared those managing Social Security to criminals, saying:

“Let’s look at what would happen if someone in the private sector did a similar thing. Suppose two grandparents created a trust fund, appointed a bank as trustee, and instructed the bank to invest the proceeds of the trust fund so as to provide for their grandchildren’s education. Suppose further that the bank used the proceeds for its own purposes, so that when the grandchildren turned eighteen, there was no money for them to go to college. What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.”

Romney also says in his book, “To put it in a nutshell, the American people have been effectively defrauded out of their Social Security.”

“In his book, Romney compared Social Security to a fraudulent criminal enterprise, but last night he ran from his position,” said spokesman Ray Sullivan. “His evolving and inconsistent position on this important issue is curious, but unfortunately not unusual.”

Not only has Romney compared Social Security to a criminal enterprise, he said just two weeks ago in New Hampshire:

“I don’t know of any Republican whose running for office who said they want to cut Social Security or Medicare benefits to people who are retired or near retirement. Not one, I haven’t heard a word of it…so Republicans, like myself, are not gonna cut social security or Medicare for people who are retired or near retirement. And for the people who say we are, they are demagoguing an issue very much that harms America. Because we need to be truthful on this.” (8/24/11, Lebanon, New Hampshire)

“Governor Perry believes that Social Security for current beneficiaries, and those nearing retirement, can and must be protected,” said Sullivan. “Additionally, citizens of all ages, experts and elected officials must seriously discuss reforms to Social Security to make it financially sound and sustainable for the long haul.”

“Americans want a leader to speak honestly about the financial challenges facing our nation,” said Sullivan. “Traditional political rhetoric and tap-dancing don't comfort Americans deeply concerned about the future of our nation.”

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WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney's charge that Texas Gov. Rick Perry's views on Social Security are not only out of the conservative mainstream but make him virtually unelectable was the defining headline to...
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BinghamLofts
03:23 PM on 09/12/2011
why is he being chastized for stating a very credible opinion?
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eva belle
Kolob a-calling
01:24 PM on 09/12/2011
Mitt Say Anything Romney, just what we need!
12:41 PM on 09/09/2011
ask flip flopney romney if he believes in evolution (like brian williams asked of rick perry)

willard mittens will flip flop.
10:10 AM on 09/09/2011
Romney will do for soc. sec. what he did at Bain for companies-----Give it to the "private " sector so that his buddies can cash in it.
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Imago1122
Hurry up, we're dreaming
09:08 AM on 09/09/2011
Only Al Sharpton it seems on his show has followed up on another Romney lie: that during his tenure as governor of Massachusetts he created more jobs than President Obama. This statement was and is patently false. The moderators of the debate didn't challenge him on this. Why hasn't any other media outlet, including Huff Post, brought this up?
09:04 AM on 09/09/2011
So now we have Perry and Romney trying to out do each other as to which is a greater protector of SS. It reminds me of the " if I do it honey will you still love me in the morning " line. Both will change their tune if elected and revert to their pre-election stands and they won't be using any KY on Americans.
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vh47
08:37 AM on 09/09/2011
Funny he can tell the truth about Social Security in a book ,but waffle during the election season,typical politician.Obama needs to finally tell Paul Ryan and his cronies the same thing Romney said in his book,instead of cutting Social Security lets pay the funds we have looted.
07:03 AM on 09/09/2011
Why do R candidates hate old people?
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Montana 123
Mama to Three Little Monkeys
10:21 AM on 09/09/2011
They hate anyone that isn't rich or a corporation.
01:59 AM on 09/09/2011
They call him Waffle House Romney for a reason.
02:35 AM on 09/09/2011
Methinks they'll be calling him Mr. President in January 2013.
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08:26 AM on 09/09/2011
God help us.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
01:50 AM on 09/09/2011
The Republican plan to 'fix' Social Secuity IS to defrauded the American people out of their earned benefits.

Starting at the very top of the scale we should impound the net worth of every person until SS is fully solvent. Let them know that they will never win by sacrificing the people's benefits for their self centered greed. Next time they won't play so loose with our money!!
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Grokenspiel
I grok, therefore I spiel
10:50 PM on 09/08/2011
[Memo from Disney CEO Robert Iger to Lee Adams Jr., head of Audio-Anim­atronics Division]

Re: Mitt Romney figure problems

Lee,

Here it is, only six months until the Republican primary kickoff in Iowa, and the Romney figure still isn't functionin­g properly. There have even been stories in the media comparing Romney to a Ken doll, for crying out loud. That's getting a little too close to the truth to suit me.

Yesterday's GOP debate in Simi Valley was supposed to have been a perfect performance. You assured me the new subroutines had solved the stiffness problems, but the figure still looked like it had a steel rod up its butt. (And the fact that it actually did have a steel rod up its butt is beside the point; you know what I'm getting at.)

After spending nearly a billion dollars on developmen­t the device is still not performing in a realistic manner. This is unacceptab­le, Lee. There's too much at stake. I want you to do whatever is necessary to get a handle on this problem. Otherwise, you'll find yourself selling tickets to the Jungle Cruise.

Bob
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pmag88
water and carbon and a bunch of other stuff
10:48 PM on 09/08/2011
Social Security should have been removed from the general fund and every dime the government borrowed against it was and is, by law, supposed to be paid back.

Forget trying to split hairs on taxes. Raise everyones tax back to where it was under the Clinton administration and cut the military spending down to where it would have and should have been, and within' about 15 years we can have incremental tax cuts accross the board until we find the lowest possible balance of revenues necessary to maintain what the vast majority of fair minded American's deem acceptable.

What most didn't seem to hear in Romey's speech was that he was talking about decades to recover. DECADES ! That means millions living in a similar situation for a very long time for one reason only. Because these spineless cowards don't have the balls to cut the military budget and tell the American people that the Bush tax cuts have to go. No partial icreases on any one group. Put back what worked and do it now.

We've had 30 years of voodoo economics and it was and is economic disaster and there is no room to mince words anymore.
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Icantbelieveher
I'm for the separation of church and hate!
10:30 PM on 09/08/2011
The ponzi scheme will be if republicans are able to privatize social security and hand billions of dollars over to the banks, so they can gamble with a program that is now safe!  The duping would be if people voted for Romney thinking he would fix it!
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Jawbey
10:15 PM on 09/08/2011
The MONEY was BORROWED from the SS fund.
It HAS NOT BEEN RE-PAYED.
Now the same PEOPLE that RAIDED the FUND are saying that SS is in danger of GOING BROKE!!!!!!!
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pjohns
Let nature be a teacher
10:10 PM on 09/08/2011
A fellow LDS man wrote "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People." I'm sure Mitt Romney will be using it in this campaign. Intelligently written. Easily read. It's going to be an interesting race. IQ points will count, of course although EQ, or emotional quotient, might be thin air.