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Commercial Pilots See Hope After A Very Long Decade


First Posted: 09/09/11 09:14 AM ET Updated: 11/09/11 05:12 AM ET

On September 11, 2001, Doug Beidler watched the coverage of the attacks on the World Trade Center with the rest of his American Airlines flight class. He’d flown over the Twin Towers two days earlier and he watched them crumble in disbelief, not knowing how profoundly what was unfolding on television would affect his life and the lives of the other commercial pilots in the room.

“Everyone was huddled around the TV, but I don’t think any of us were thinking about losing our jobs,” says Beidler, now a major in the Air Force based out of Omaha. “Then they came into our class and the class ahead of ours and terminated everyone.”

For the commercial airline industry, the fallout from 9/11 was both personal –- United and AA employees were killed –- and financial, with pilots furloughed as air travel declined rapidly in the wake of the tragedy. Experienced pilots like Beidler, about to be given the jobs they had worked a career for, found themselves suddenly unemployed. Many more would be furloughed in 2002 and 2003 as the industry languished and total number of affected pilots neared 10,000.

Now, with airlines facing what is liking to be an avalanche of retirements due to age restrictions -– and in need of new blood to satisfy new rest-between-flights regulation -– the industry may finally be turning around for commercial aviators.

Finding Work

Like many others, Beidler, 57, spent the last decade bouncing from job to job, trying to stay in the air. He’s worked across the country teaching at flight schools and flying different sorts of planes. When he worked for the regional carrier Tradewinds out of Greensboro, he was assigned to fly his plane to Roswell, New Mexico, the site of massive plane graveyards and let go as he was walking down the stairs to the tarmac.

Though Beidler understood the vicissitudes of working as a commercial pilot even when he was still flying fighter jets for the Marines -– and despite his naturally cheerful disposition –- he’s far from content about the way things went.

“I think the pilots were treated poorly by the management,” says Major Beidler. “A lot of us left other jobs to go to American, got there and were fired. Still, I want to go back and I plan on it. I don’t fly with the management. I fly with the pilots and I have no problem with them at all.”

According to Kip Darby, a former captain for United turned airline industry consultant, Major Beidler is far from alone in resenting the behavior of American, which, with United, furloughed the most pilots. According to Darby’s figures, American and United still collectively have about 2,500 furloughed fliers.

“These pilots felt poorly treated and a fair number won’t return because of the politics,” says Darby, adding that many more likely will because the perks of jobs at United and American are so good that any pilot would be hard pressed to stay defiant.

Looking Up

The good news for pilots according to Darby, is that 2012 will be the beginning of a hiring bonanza. By his calculations, large commercial airlines could need five percent more pilots to be able to maintain their current schedules with rest rules. But those are small gains compared to the 2,000 pilots a year he expects to begin leaving commercial aviation as they hit the age limit of 65 — raised from 60 in 2007 to the dismay of younger pilots. Add in the droves likely to retire from regional airlines, many of which have already struggled to staff flights, and it will be, for the first time in a long time, a pilots’ job market.

Darby himself is hoping to see his domestic partner, a pilot furloughed in 2003, get herself back in the air. “I was not affected to much after the attacks, but I live in a piloting community and a lot of people I care about were,” he says.

The Air Line Pilots Association, a union that represents some 53,000 pilots, took the furloughs so seriously it created a Furloughed Pilots Support Program.

“The change in the industry in the decade following 9/11 was significant,” said union spokesperson Shauni Harvey, who pointed out that the damage done by September 11 to the industry is no longer best measured in furloughed numbers because it has become difficult to tell who is a victim of what. The recession brought cutbacks and layoffs as well.

Though ALPA is still embroiled in a lawsuit with American over the fates of furloughed TWA pilots, things are looking up at both United and American, where the increase in hiring seems to have started, albeit at a slow pace.

“We’ve recalled pilots every month so far in 2011, averaging approximately 30 to 40 pilots per recall class,” said American Airlines Spokesperson Missy Cousino. In August, 111 pilots retired from American, prompting reports by the Associated Press and Bloomberg newswires that the company was already spread so thin it was asking pilots to delay vacations.

Burned Before

Commercial Pilot message boards, which are surprisingly numerous, have recently become firefights between the optimistic and the jaded. A fairly middle of the road posting from the Airline Pilot Forum reads: “Rumor at AA is that we will be hiring off the street in spring. (And furloughing 6 months later. LOL).”

The optimists tend to argue that the airline industry has grown on average roughly 5 percent a year for a very long time despite economic downturns. The pessimists tend to point out that the optimists have been burned before.

Major Beidler, who is due to ship out to Afghanistan as soon as his broken ankle heals, believes the evidence points toward one conclusion: It is only a matter of time before he gets the phone call he’s been waiting on for nearly ten years.

“It’s gonna be fun to be back,” he says. “I probably won’t make Captain, but I’m alright with that. I’ll make a great First Officer. The thing is, I’ve been down a hard road and I stayed in the business. I’m never going to get the dream job. So be it.”

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On September 11, 2001, Doug Beidler watched the coverage of the attacks on the World Trade Center with the rest of his American Airlines flight class. He’d flown over the Twin Towers two days earlie...
On September 11, 2001, Doug Beidler watched the coverage of the attacks on the World Trade Center with the rest of his American Airlines flight class. He’d flown over the Twin Towers two days earlie...
On September 11, 2001, Doug Beidler watched the coverage of the attacks on the World Trade Center with the rest of his American Airlines flight class. He’d flown over the Twin Towers two days earlie...
On September 11, 2001, Doug Beidler watched the coverage of the attacks on the World Trade Center with the rest of his American Airlines flight class. He’d flown over the Twin Towers two days earlie...
 
 
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10:34 PM on 09/11/2011
I survived 30 years with one airline and for that I'm thankful.Although 9/11 brought an end to the 'airline within airline" and many good folks hit the bricks shortly thereafter,I continued to do the best I could for the folks on the flight-deck as an aircraft tech.In retrospect though, our nations worst remembrance was used by many corporations and especially the greedy and unprofitable airlines to cut hard working employes off at the knees,especially busting union contracts over the years to come whilst the fat-heads in ivory towers ranked in millions in bonuses & golden parachutes due to the evil of 9/11! Also,lets not forget what president allowed the terrorists plan to be conceived right under his nose! Don't forget America. The terrorist learned to fly Boeing 757/767's during Clinton's watch not to mention all the attacks on American soil and interests worldwide with NO deterrence offered up by "SLICK WILLY!" (Other than his typical mealymouthed rebuttal of "Don't do that again or else!" Don't do that again or else!" Don't do that again or else!" In fact, this was the same rebuttal to Saddam Hussein every time he denied access to UN Weapons Inspectors access to inspect sites for WMD's. Granted, there probably were none BUT, had Clinton FORCED Hussein to comply with UN resolutions after Desert Storm, the necessity to wage war with Iraq AGAIN...would not have been necessary REGARDLESS of 9/11! President Clinton failed the United States!
09:09 PM on 09/11/2011
Pilots don't get paid enough! I know it's partly a supply and demand thing but they go through very professional and expensive training. It takes a long while to train and build up all the hours.The pay just isn't great until maybe way later in their career.

I fly a lot and am always thankful for skilled pilots that take their work seriously!

Thanks for always keep us all safe!
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lliberty4ever
Yeah- tell me another one !
06:55 PM on 09/11/2011
Too bad commercial passengers see no hope of things ever returning to normal .
Between government TSA agents arrogance and the airlines treating us like cattle , I'd rather take a nice cruise.
05:07 PM on 09/11/2011
What does "as soon as his broken ankle heals '' have to do with this story?
I went back over it 3 times to see how he broke his ankle as I thought it must be tied in some way? WRONG.
Very bad editing, perhaps? Probably.
04:51 PM on 09/11/2011
thank the good republicans for the loss of the good jobs to China.Thank bush for all the good that he did for all you flying folks.Vote in 2012 for those who will send your sons and daughters future to China.
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neuticles
02:28 PM on 09/11/2011
my dog is 11 years old and im furious they
havent gotten his perspective on 911.
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s5cat2dog
I am unique, just like everyone else.
01:23 PM on 09/11/2011
In my opinion, these airplane pilots epitomize courage. It took me years after the tragedy to even consider flying as a passenger. I'm grateful that now at least the pilots have some defenses...it's now painfully obvious that cockpit doors need to be locked. Bravo...all of you!
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Wistfulslinking
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03:43 AM on 09/12/2011
Locked until they go to the lav?
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cliff53
12:56 PM on 09/11/2011
I have always wondered why the tax payer has to pay for Airport Security. Airlines are public companies. I know the airport is probably owned by the city, but why should the tax payer have to pay for TSA? If you go to a football game, baseball game, or a concert, whoever is promoting these events pays for the security. Even when you go to a shopping mall, the mall pays for the security. The tax payer is paying for security at the airports and for the airlines. I think the city should be paying for security at the airport, but the airlines should be paying for all the screening of the passengers who fly on their planes. Millions of people do not fly and never will, but they are paying for the security of the airlines.
05:44 PM on 09/11/2011
Cliff53

Been there done that. Learn some history. Airport "screening" was in the hands of the airlines on the morning of 9/11. We've all seen this corporate philosophy in action and it didn't work. Corporations will seek the cheapest (most stupid?) way to solve a potential liability issue, and airline security was the perfect example of how not to do something. I've also seen what the airlines have since done to their loyal employees and long-time customers and I'd rather they not be in charge of my security.
10:06 PM on 09/11/2011
i say make all airlines government owned
10:22 AM on 09/11/2011
First De-regulation - then 9/11 Changed Everything for Commercial Pilots. What most folks don't realize is that it takes > $100,000 to become trained as a commercial multi-engine pilot in the USA. Once you do that you become eligible for a $17K to $25K per annum job as a co-pilot on a reginal carrier - maybe. The road to Captain and the left seat is long ( 5 to 7 years at best) and at the first sign of financial trouble management furloughs you to save themselves. No one in their right mind spends $100K or more for a $17K job that is now the equivilent of driving a bus in a third world nation. Add to that a medical exam complete with EKG every six months and the ability to lose your job at the slightest hint of any trouble medically. You can earn more driving a city bus in any major US city - and sleep at home every night too. Get ready for your pilots coming from India, China, etc. The military can't train enough of them now and with the pending defense cuts it will get worse. If you really want to fly - get a good education, a good job, earn some serious $$, get a private pilot's license with an instrument rating and buy a light G/A aircraft. The halcyon years of airline flying as a flight crew member (or a pax for that matter) are long gone. It's sad but true
01:16 PM on 09/11/2011
simply stated, aviation is a horrible industry. the glamour of it ended in 1979.
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lliberty4ever
Yeah- tell me another one !
06:51 PM on 09/11/2011
Carter messed that up too, hmmm ?
07:30 PM on 09/13/2011
Tough trade

The industry became brutally competitive for employees& management - and investors have never made money on the capital employed

However, the flying public benefitted from enormous price erosion - making travel practical for the middle class, not jsut business people and the elites

What would you have done?
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checkmoot
We have met the enemy and he is us.
10:13 AM on 09/11/2011
Are you as confused as I am ? Mr. Biedler was an officer and pilot in the Marines, he is a Air Force Major stationed in Omaha and he is bouncing around the country catching odd jobs in the aviation industry. Could you narrow it down to what he is really doing ?
10:09 PM on 09/11/2011
he resigned from the marines and joined the air force reserves. so he has alot of free time to bounce
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Stephen1349
The law is reason..free from passion.
09:41 AM on 09/11/2011
The events of 9/11 forever changed how you will live in this country. TSA is here to stay. You may not like the restrictions and the inconvenience and this loss of what you consider your liberty....but if they weren't their doing this job..you would be complaining that we weren't doing enough to provide more security for people using airports. Some people live to complain about anything...it apparently is all they have to do.
09:12 AM on 09/11/2011
I don't understand how they can fell good with the TSA and homeland Security watching their back. I think congress should defund both of theses organizations.
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Stephen1349
The law is reason..free from passion.
09:43 AM on 09/11/2011
Then if we have (and we will eventually) another major terrorist attack, you would be the first to be screaming that the government didn't do enough to protect you and your family. Do you want regular, extra-crispy, or spicy?
11:41 AM on 09/11/2011
agreed i heard that some of the people that are the TSA employies some are sex offenders homeless and some people from prison that is scaried if it,s tru leting this monters touching me and toucthind lilte children? we the peple deserve better i do not wanna these people toutching when i travel from brasil to america
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garylinn
Disabled USAF Veteran (God bless America)
02:41 PM on 09/11/2011
That's not true...I retired from the dept of homeland security and worked with TSA from 2002 until 2006...these folks were put through a lot of security mesures as if they were taking a top secret security job within the military...most of the workers are retired military as I was. Of course you are going to have some idiots slip through but it was not too many, thank god...it is NOT as you say...sorry! I know!
01:56 PM on 09/09/2011
I am a retired flight engineer. One of my good friends is a pilot and I used to fly with him.

He got a job flying for Emirates on B777's. He has never been in the military but is 32 years old Venezuelen guy. Started flying light aircraft at age 12 with his Dad.

He makes 300k a year as Captain and lives in Dubai and gets a house with pool paid for, PLUS Emirate Airlines will pay for his kids education thru university.,

He and his wife love living in Dubai.

The only place for a pilot to make a good living is with a European or Asian carrier.
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garylinn
Disabled USAF Veteran (God bless America)
02:42 PM on 09/11/2011
And Delta...they pay their captains very well, indeed
12:30 PM on 09/09/2011
I will never fly again -- unless the TSA goes the way of the dinosaurs. I would rather walk than be molested.
10:48 PM on 09/10/2011
Get over yourself. Molested right! I think TSA employees have more on their minds than molest you, let alone molest you in private.
11:48 AM on 09/11/2011
Good. I'd rather be flying next to a positive, up - beat optimist than someone sour and paranoid.
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Janet Eason
12:03 PM on 09/09/2011
If you are a Federal Express worker whom loads/unloads plane, processes packages to be put on the planes or some one whom runs the support the aircraft, because you are considered a terroist. But if you have an office job, mechanic or a pilot, you can fly free. Just remember one thing…the person whom tried to take down the F/X plane years ago was a PILOT !!! This whole bit about pilot safety is B/S. They don't want the passengers seeing them sleeping