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Paul Krugman: 50 Percent Chance Global Economy Will Enter Recession

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 09/09/11 01:08 PM ET Updated: 11/09/11 05:12 AM ET

Even though Obama's jobs plan is "bolder and better" than Paul Krugman expected, the Nobel-Prize winning economist still told Bloomberg Television on Friday that it might not be enough to stave off global recession.

The risk of global recession is "quite high, maybe 50 percent," Krugman told Bloomberg. He added: "The risk of something that feels like a recession is much higher than that. My central belief is that we're likely to have higher unemployment a year from now than we do today."

Krugman said that while Obama's plan "could make a noticeable difference to the economy," Republican opposition to the President's proposal, on top of the euro zone crisis, still makes recession a substantial possibility.

Speculation over the possibility of the U.S. entering back into recession, and likely bringing the global economy with it, has been a topic of frequent discussion among economists. While World Bank President Robert Zoellick, along with a recent poll of economists, said that a recession is unlikely, others are less optimistic.

Michael Spence, another Nobel Prize-winning economist, also recently pegged the chances of a global recession at 50 percent. Likewise, President of Federal Reserve Bank Charles Evans in a recent speech was of a similar mind that, even if the economy's not technically in a recession already, high unemployment makes it feel that way.

Nevertheless, Krugman's opinion on how Republicans will receive Obama's plan remains consistent between the two.

"The chance that it's not going to actually be enacted by Republicans is 100 percent, I think nothing will pass," Krugman said. "I believe if Obama proposed that we honor motherhood, Republicans would vote it down."

Watch Bloomberg Television's interview with economist Paul Krugman here.

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Even though Obama's jobs plan is "bolder and better" than Paul Krugman expected, the Nobel-Prize winning economist still told Bloomberg Television on Friday that it might not be enough to stave off gl...
Even though Obama's jobs plan is "bolder and better" than Paul Krugman expected, the Nobel-Prize winning economist still told Bloomberg Television on Friday that it might not be enough to stave off gl...
 
 
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spud3
Forward into oblivion
01:00 PM on 09/15/2011
The bevis and butthead of economics speaks again.
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
12:51 PM on 09/13/2011
Forget the math double talk!
Americans are really hurting unless you are employed and or wealthy!

Our elected Leadership is now wallowing in donations and asking for ever more!

"One Man One Vote" is now "One Dollar One Vote",
... Thanks to the SCOTUS...

IMO Things will get much worse, as the reality sinks in,
... As the once Middle Class, now "New-Poor" struggle
... To feed their families and contain their anger...
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exmate
Life is about playing a poor hand well.
08:29 PM on 09/12/2011
We have been living on borrowed time and borrowed money for quite a while. The party is almost over.
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
12:08 PM on 09/13/2011
Fanned and Fav'd!
A Great post and very realistic!
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exmate
Life is about playing a poor hand well.
07:21 AM on 09/14/2011
Things that went on income statements as sales and as accounts receiveable in the balance sheet are not resuting in cash flow to busienesses. Bad things happen when the wrong things are bought with money that people do not have.
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
10:38 AM on 09/12/2011
this is the best all telling LOOK at where America is going......or not

http://www.bendib.com/newones/2006/march/small/2-3-India-Visit.jpg

In listening to Immelt CEO GE, also our Pres CHIEF Adviser who just sent 60,000 jobs to the above in the last two months.
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
12:10 PM on 09/13/2011
Fanned and Fav'd!
Sad but true!

The lucky folks today have a job or are retired!
\The Middle Class is going to get MUCH Smaller!
10:02 AM on 09/12/2011
Either there will or there wont be a global recession - good call 'Krudman' it's a fifty pecent chance that it will or that it wont.
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exmate
Life is about playing a poor hand well.
08:32 PM on 09/12/2011
There are differnces between a 10% chance and a 50% chance and a 90% chance. think a little Mr. Vote Them All Out. I realize that Arithmatic is not your strong suit.
10:34 PM on 09/12/2011
According to the article headline the 'Krudman' said there is a 50-50 chance, that co-incides with it will or it wont. Maybe you need the refresher in math.
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RagMag
still living a Ragtime Life
08:02 AM on 09/12/2011
Bad news for all you true believers. Communism dead. Capitalism dying. Patriarchal family structure (growth/overpopulation/eco-destruction/pollution) doomed.

Only hope: matriarchal families, vegetarian lifestyles and common land ownership (Henry George).

Any takers?
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
01:08 PM on 09/13/2011
I think the British after losing the Colonial War,
... Are a great example of what lies ahead for the USA!

The wealthy few will rule in great luxury,
... While the masses struggle to feed themselves!

I expect Gun Ownership to be the next Right to be lost,
... Because the Wealthy are fearful of armed rabble...
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08:59 PM on 09/11/2011
The other 150% will be fine....
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08:03 PM on 09/11/2011
Can anyone tell me the difference between a liberal and a progressive? I don't quite understand. They seem to be the same people, same beliefs. Is this a new political philosophy? Didn't they like the name liberal?
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zagatosz
03:03 AM on 09/12/2011
Liberal Progressive vs Neanderthall Conservative.
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nkurland
I'm going to leave this planet alive
02:47 PM on 09/11/2011
As has been plainly obvious to anyone following the trajectory of the recession, the job market has risen and fallen with government policy regarding the recession. Job losses surged in winter 2008, then slowed and reversed ever so slightly as the stimulus kicked in and then flowed continually. Following the Bush tax cut deal, the combination of remaining Recovery Act funds, piecemeal measures passed in the 111th Congress and elements of the deal ratcheted up job growth yet again.

We're now at a point where the last drops are now filtering out of the economy and the job market is responding accordingly with a complete halt. The deficit reduction, sure to take demand out of the economy with reductions to SS, Medicare and a host of antipoverty programs will have the effect of lowering the floor for the economy.

The path we're headed down, despite ample evidence not only confirming the Keynesian multiplier with safety net expansions and infrastructure spending, combined with studies linking harsh cuts to severe state level job losses can only be characterized as insanity.
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IT1579
07:30 PM on 09/11/2011
There is no Keynesian multiplier; it is a fiction.
02:51 AM on 09/12/2011
Will the fake word "malinvestment" find its way into this?
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
01:16 PM on 09/13/2011
Great comment
Fanned and Fav'd!

If SS had been self managed, like GW Bush wanted,
... That money would have also been "lost" and
... America would be in Social turmoil NOW!

BTW: I'd be interested in your take on my 11:01 comment,
... From 9/11 below, if you have time!
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Robgrut
02:12 PM on 09/11/2011
Why no link to Krugman's latest article on 9/11? It reveals Krugman's inner self and it is not something anyone will like...
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Robgrut
01:05 PM on 09/11/2011
Krugman is such a joke.
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zagatosz
03:07 AM on 09/12/2011
He has a Nobel and you do don't. Consolation you're a super user.
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
12:52 PM on 09/13/2011
Fanned and Fav'd!
ROTFL
Don't Stop!
02:32 PM on 09/24/2011
There is a reason for that. he uses analysis, data, and his brain. Others just like the guy who posted just uses big mouth not connected to the brain
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Aikaterina
A Greek-American living in California
11:22 AM on 09/11/2011
The probability of the US "entering back into a recession" is oxymoronic. Tell that to the 14-million Americans who are desperately seeking and can't find jobs, please. There are far more who've stopped looking, or who are under-employed, and/or whose jobless benefits have run out, and who aren't counted in official statistics.
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
11:58 AM on 09/11/2011
A MUCH DEEPER Recession is more like it!

While the Fed gives Billions to the Big Banks at almost Zero interest, they are investing offshore instead of giving loans out in the USA! Would you want o stop the money flow if you were a Big Bank? The US worker is being forced to accept much lower wages to make them more competitive on the World market, so WHEN the Big Corp. have to stop offshoring jobs they will get more bang for their buck here at home!

What this means for what is left of the Middle Class, if much more of the same verbiage from DC while jobs grow even harder to find and or hold onto; expect "JOB SHARING" WHERE FOLKS WORK LESS THAN 20 HOURS, to further save Businesses on health care! This is the Mexicanation* of the USA!
* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mexicanation
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the shifting of Wealth of a Country like America, from BOTH the Middle Class and the once almost Rich to just the Ultra Wealthy; who will then control every facet of America's Government thanks to the SCOTUS's decision that makes it OK for them to donate to political campaigns!
12:56 PM on 09/11/2011
Excellent points!
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04:53 PM on 09/11/2011
Go the US Treasury web site and look at bank lending under TARP. They've lent out $245 Billion and have received in repayment and interest, $257 Billion. There is still $19 Billion due. The banks pay 5% interest during the first 5 years and 9% thereafter. I know that none of the "facts" will change your opinion, but you should avoid saying ignorant things and I thought I'd help.
02:53 AM on 09/12/2011
Recession is a technical term. Right now the USA is not in recession. It is in depression. A depression starts off with a significant recession after which there's recovery that's too anemic to adequately cover the losses of the original recession leading to a depressed situation. Another recession may happen during the course of the depression and this appears to be on the horizon.
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
12:59 PM on 09/13/2011
Fanned and Fav'd for being accurate!
Technical is great but for most readers,
America in now in a Depression,
the Recession was a year+ ago...
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
11:01 AM on 09/11/2011
What happened to our $2.1 Trillion Dollars lost by the Pentagon?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/29/911-video-of-missile-hitting-pentagon-leaked/
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All those Billions in Cash in Iraq?
http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/IraqNumbers.htm
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robrtl
10:32 AM on 09/11/2011
50 per ceent chance isn't an opinion , it means i don't know. that is the first time i've heard krugman admit it.
02:11 PM on 09/11/2011
It means we are teetering on the edge and can go either way...

Would you be ok with 51% or 49% to describe that situation?
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Mark Cormier Arizona
2012 has put us on the path to Europe
07:32 PM on 09/11/2011
It just shows he is out of touch........close to 20% real unemployment.....almost a depression.
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CaptD
Freedom From Nuclear Fascism...
02:03 PM on 09/13/2011
Fanned and Fav'd!
Agreed + For all those MILLIONS without a job, we are in a depression!
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abhorson
in favor of legalized bar fighting
10:30 AM on 09/11/2011
It's TRUE that the Republicans are basically saying "NO" to even the good parts of the 'plan'. But the reason for that is (also) that Obama is basically trying to buy a TEMPORARY fix in order to just get himself re-elected.

There's no plan - from either side - about how to go about a long-term restructuring of the US economy to make it more competitive, to encourage job growth AND reduce the deficit.

Both sides are simply positioning for the next election - which is why I NEVER vote for any political party or its representatives.
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03:09 PM on 09/11/2011
The Ryan budget passed the House by a large margin and sits in the Senate. It addresses all the hard issue (entitlements, taxes). About $ 6 trillion less than the status quo. The Simpson/Bowles committee (Obama appointed) addressed all the same tough issues. President did not publically support a single recommendation. So there are two comphrensive plans out there. One Republican, one bi-partisan independent. But Obama and the Democrats have refused to put out a plan for over 900 days. They have elected instead to demagogue and snipe. They are afraid of the political fallout if they attempt to deal with debt, entitlements and taxes in a comphrensive plan. So he'll do nothing. So who is positioning?
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abhorson
in favor of legalized bar fighting
03:30 AM on 09/12/2011
ALL of them are always positioning... all ... impossible otherwise in politics...

a. ZERO corporate taxes. This will bring money home and spur re-investment.

b. Work visas for all illegal workers - repeal birthright citizenship - workers bring money into the system and pay taxes & having a child shouldn't give anyone "rights"

c. Green cards + easy path to citizenship for ALL technology university graduates from other countries - we NEED educated and productive people

d. Government investment in medicine, bio-chem, aerospace, materials science - funds through research institutions and universities.

e. 12-24 months holiday NO TAX on IRA and 401k withdrawals - this will bring a huge chunk into the economy

f. get RID of Social in-Security - a "soak the middle class" tax which gives them no entitlement EVEN to their own money. Remind folks it's not a gov program for the poor - you get ONLY if you put IN ... and then without ANY guarantee...
tnjr
Humor gets me through the day
03:27 PM on 09/11/2011
The Rep are saying NO to everything that's failed in the pass. This stimulus bill is 50% less then the last one which was supposed to keep unemployment under 8%. It failed, so why will it work this time? This was just a rereading of the magic teleprompter, union givebacks to save teachers and contruction jobs and cutting the payroll tax, which will speed up social security bankrupcy.
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abhorson
in favor of legalized bar fighting
04:06 AM on 09/12/2011
payroll tax cuts could go GREAT with social security vouchers for those who opt out :) ... and it does help put money in people's pocket instead of Washington... all good for me.

infrastructure spending - could be fine if it's done to reduce congestion in certain cities, improve water quality, develop national parks better, and loads of other 'good stuff' AS LONG as it's not used as political payback (but it will be). COULD be great, will probably not be.

... but, in the end, the President spent two years on Healthware - passed a pretty dumb plan - and forgot about jobs until the year before elections... and the Republicans don't want to help him out now...
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abhorson
in favor of legalized bar fighting
04:11 AM on 09/12/2011
PS. Social security won't go bankrupt. They'll do what they've done 10x before - raise the retirement age, reduce benefits, reduce cost of living adjustments, raise payroll taxes...

it's not the first time... look back 40 years to see how many times this has been done.