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Obama Jobs Plan: Federal Aid For States Splits Democrats, Republicans

Obama Jobs Plan State Budgets

By DAVID A. LIEB   09/12/11 08:09 AM ET   AP

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. -- President Barack Obama's latest jobs plan calls for $130 billion in aid to state and local governments, providing either a welcome infusion of cash for those struggling with budget gaps, government layoffs and crumbling roads or merely a temporary patch for budget holes that are likely to remain long after the federal money runs out.

The perspective of governors and state lawmakers varies but often follows political affiliation, with Democrats generally praising Obama's plan and Republicans remaining skeptical.

"It's a no-brainer: Congress should pass the bill. Now," said California Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat, whose state would receive some $13 billion for construction projects and teaching and public safety jobs at a time when it has the nation's second highest unemployment rate.

Many Republican lawmakers and governors are less enthusiastic about accepting the federal money, especially if it locks in costs they will have to account for once the aid runs out.

"If we're given the flexibility to spend it as we see fit and not as they see fit, I could see some benefit," particularly for long-delayed infrastructure projects, said Missouri House Budget Committee Chairman Ryan Silvey, a Republican. "I'm not a big fan of using one-time money for ongoing expenses. I think that's what the state should be getting away from, not getting deeper into."

Obama's plan has to clear a politically divided Congress, which could scuttle it entirely or enact bits and pieces of it. As envisioned by Obama, state and local governments would receive $50 billion for transportation projects, $35 billion for school, police and fire department payrolls, $30 billion to modernize public schools and community colleges, and $15 billion to refurbish vacant and foreclosed homes or businesses.

It would mark the second, sizable infusion of federal cash to states in less than three years, coming just as they are burning through the last of the billions of dollars they received under the 2009 stimulus act.

In many cases, states used the original stimulus money to fill in for declining tax revenue and lessen or delay spending cuts for public schools, health care programs and other services. But those budget holes remain in many states as high unemployment persists and government tax revenue remains lackluster.

With another round of money, "the federal government may be able to play a critical role in helping states close their budget gaps," said David Adkins, executive director of the Council of State Governments.

But he said the prospects for receiving the money appear "very, very slim" given the focus on reducing government spending among Republicans in Congress. He said state government leaders are more interested in long-term stable federal funding for transportation projects and education programs.

In New Mexico, Democratic state Sen. John Arthur Smith said provisions of the Obama proposal, such as infrastructure financing for highways and aid to schools, should provide a short-term economic boost for the state. But he worries that it could create a future financial squeeze if state government needs to replace the federal money when the program ends.

He said state spending had to be cut this year to help close a $200 million budget gap created when federal stimulus money ran out.

"I'm one of those who would rather confront the enemy at hand right now," Smith said. "I don't think we're elected to push the issue down the road."

State budget officials have only estimates of how much they would receive under the Obama proposal, which was announced Thursday to a joint session of Congress. They are waiting to learn exactly how those dollars would be disbursed and what strings, if any, would be attached.

Some Republican governors already have established a precedent of rejecting portions of the federal stimulus money.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker rejected $810 million in federal funding for a high-speed rail line between Madison and Milwaukee, and Ohio Gov. John Kasich turned down $400 million for a rail project to connect Cincinnati, Cleveland and Columbus. Florida Gov. Gov. Rick Scott canceled a $2 billion federal grant for a high-speed train between Orlando and Tampa, citing concern that state government would be locked into years of operating subsidies.

A state-by-state breakdown of the president's plan shows that Florida could receive more than $7.5 billion for schools, roads and other projects. That money would come into a state with a 10.7 percent unemployment rate and one of the nation's highest home foreclosure rates. But Scott spokesman Brian Burgess left open the possibility that the Florida governor could reject money under Obama's latest plan, especially if it added to the federal debt.

Republican Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who is running for president, dismissed Obama's proposal as wasteful spending and argued that budget cuts were the only way to help the economy.

"President Obama's call for nearly a half-trillion dollars in more government stimulus when America has more than $14 trillion in debt is guided by his mistaken belief that we can spend our way to prosperity," Perry said.

Perry has a history of rejecting federal money that would require changes in state law. Last year he declined to accept $550 million in additional unemployment funds because it would have required Texas to adopt a more generous program.

While it is not clear whether the Obama proposal would require Texas to rewrite its unemployment laws, it would extend the benefits of nearly 124,000 people in the state.

Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican who as a U.S. senator voted against Obama's 2009 stimulus legislation, did not say whether Kansas would accept federal money under Obama's latest proposal. But he said the use of one-time revenue in the earlier stimulus program created budget problems for the state when the funding expired.

Other governors, particularly Democrats, welcomed the potential for more federal aid.

"We need all the help we can get," said Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin, a Democrat whose state remains devastated by flooding from the remnants of Hurricane Irene.

"I think the hopes that we had for our recovery have been stalled for all kinds of reasons that are beyond Vermont's control," Shumlin told The Associated Press. "But it seems to me that the president's package for job growth and infrastructure investment is the right thing to help us avoid a double-dip recession."

Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, chairman of the Democratic Governors Association, said the president's proposal includes some job-creation ideas that have been supported previously by Democrats and Republicans.

"I think it's pretty much a nonpartisan idea that a modern economy requires modern investments in order to create jobs," O'Malley said. "There are things that we know will get people back to work – rebuilding our infrastructure, rebuilding our schools, our bridges our tunnels."

Ralph Martire, executive director of the Chicago-based Center for Tax and Budget Accountability, said Obama's plan to provide $4.5 billion for Illinois transit, construction projects and for teaching, police and firefighting jobs could help the state's economy, based on historical evidence.

"Spending money in the local economy creates a positive economic multiplier," he said.

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Associated Press writers Scott Bauer in Madison, Wis.; Chet Brokaw in Pierre, S.D; Gary Fineout in Tallahassee, Fla.; Dave Gram in Montpelier, Vt.; Judy Lin in Sacramento, Calif.; Barry Massey in Santa Fe, N.M.; John Milburn in Topeka, Kan.; Julie Carr Smyth in Columbus, Ohio; Chris Tomlinson in Austin, Texas; Tammy Webber in Chicago; and Brian Witte in Annapolis, Md., contributed to this report.

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JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. -- President Barack Obama's latest jobs plan calls for $130 billion in aid to state and local governments, providing either a welcome infusion of cash for those struggling with bud...
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09:22 AM on 09/13/2011
Two months before the federal government provided a $535 million federal loan to the company, auditors found that Solyndra, the bankrupt solar company, had significant financial difficulties, Bloomberg reports. In a deepening scandal that threatens to ensnare members of the Obama administration, PricewaterhouseCoopers found that the company's finances “raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern.” Two months later the company was awarded the loan under a green jobs program. ... House Republicans have been investigating terms of the loan since earlier this year — and will hold a hearing on it on Wednesday.
09:11 AM on 09/13/2011
Republicans: CALL HIS BLUFF.
Send this idiotic bill to the senate--dump it in Harry Reid's lap and abstain from voting on it. let democrats pass it if they want. If they do, we will be in an additional half trillion debt (at least) and this time next year unemployment will be the same or worse. But it'll be clear.
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JudgeMoonbox
09:15 PM on 09/13/2011
"Republican­s: CALL HIS BLUFF.
Send this idiotic bill to the senate--du­mp it in Harry Reid's lap and abstain from voting on it. let democrats pass it if they want. If they do, we will be in an additional half trillion debt (at least) and this time next year unemployme­nt will be the same or worse. But it'll be clear. "

Do you think the Republicans will fall for this trick of reverse psychology? They know their own propaganda: for all the 41 years I've been listening to them whine about the "liberally biased media," they haven't let that stop them from coming up with ideas that could only come from a party that believes the media is firmly in its corner.
09:23 AM on 09/14/2011
It's not "reverse psychology" actually, andI can't see what it has to do with the bias of the media (other than the media will spin it negatively for them no matter what they do).

And I do not think that's what republicans will do, because they have to try to do the next best thing, which is to carve out some kind of compromise. But it's what I would do if a lying satchel of manure presented me with an all or nothing that I knew was simply a bluff. I'd call him on it.
11:28 PM on 09/12/2011
The Obama Jobs Plan in a nutshell: We'll dump another $500 billion that we haven't got to do more of the same programs that aren't working now.
ABO in 2012!
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Quitcherbichin
If you are posting here, thank a veteran.
12:12 AM on 09/13/2011
I hear that Hillary is seriously considering a run in 2012.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
09:23 PM on 09/13/2011
New York or Boston......................................marathons?
09:12 AM on 09/13/2011
Yep that sums it up.
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jeromerudolf
10:59 PM on 09/12/2011
Subsidiarity - functions which subordinate or local organizations perform effectively belongs more properly to them than to a dominant central organization. If Florida wants a road or Ohio a train, then let them do it. Why do we want to collect from everyone, loose a big % in the administration of the $, and then give back to the state with strings? I know, thats how I get reelected!
11:29 PM on 09/12/2011
It seems you've answered your own question!
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Brehas2
10:57 PM on 09/12/2011
Sometime I'd really would like to know who really is Obama.
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Indiana420
Winston Churchill was right!
11:42 PM on 09/12/2011
Half the time I'd like to know who he really is.....the other half of the time....I don't give a rat's ...
09:13 AM on 09/13/2011
Well when he stands there and declares "This bill is PAID FOR", what comes to mind is a lying satchel full of steaming manure.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
09:25 PM on 09/13/2011
Reminds me of the good old days when a certain president said "Iraq has WMD."

Then his vice president said "And we know exactly where they are."

Is the pile of manure you are seeing as large as that?
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
10:04 PM on 09/12/2011
It's hard to find a HP post that does not have someone agitating to repeal "Obamacare". Every time I must correct the record; because, my state, Hawaii, implimented the grandfather of the ACA in 1974. The results over the last 37 years are positively astonishing. Conservatives, here is what you are trying to prevent on the mainland:

1. It ended health driven bankruptcies.
2. It ended the problem of pre existing conditions.
3. It saved countless lives.
4. It greatly greatly improved health all across the state.
5. This lead to an increase in our life expectancy from 1 year less than yours to 5 years more than yours.
6. It cut average health care costs for the individual and for the state in half.

Would any conservative come forward and explain why you are fighting so hard to prevent this from happening in your state?
11:32 PM on 09/12/2011
And lead to high tax-rates and deficits the state has been putting up with ever since. Has it escaped your attention that Hawaii has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country?
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
02:58 AM on 09/13/2011
Our unemployment is 5.9%. And, tax wise we are in the bottom third of the nation. We have a sales tax of 4% and the lowest property taxes in the nation. You obviously do not know what you pontificate about.
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patty420
Die hard Liberal
03:34 AM on 09/13/2011
And just how is you state doing?
11:36 PM on 09/12/2011
of course, Hawaii has a moat not a wall. Throw illegals in your equation and kiss all your savings good bye.
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
02:59 AM on 09/13/2011
Hawaii absorbs a huge number of Marshallese at roughly the same rate as illegals on the mainland. They are counted in our costs that are half yours.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
06:18 AM on 09/13/2011
You demonstrate a certain lack of knowledge pertaining to Hawaii. Perhaps a visit would help.
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Kazzim Zongo
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
09:58 PM on 09/12/2011
Regarding payroll tax cuts and tax cuts for business:

If an otherwise rational person keeps doing something over and over despite seeing that it doesn't work, what does that mean? It usually means they're doing exactly what they want to do, and that their primary goal isn't the stated one.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
08:30 PM on 09/13/2011
Or, as the two things I have learned in life:

1) You can always tell to what a person or a group of people are committed - BY THE RESULT.

2) Doing what works - works! Doing what doesn't work, doing it longer, doing it stronger, doing it harder, doing it better - STILL DOESN'T WORK.
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
09:45 PM on 09/12/2011
I am so sick of reading conservative postings stating that Keynesian economics is dead. Not a one of them has figured out that it was Keynesian economics that brought the Great Depression to an end. At the onset of World War II there was a sudden and giant increase in governemt spending, a huge government stimulus, as we mobilized for the war. Why can't they see that??
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Brehas2
10:54 PM on 09/12/2011
Hoopoonopono, Imagine if there was not WWII to end the depression. Roosevelt , the Dems or their Liberal friends did not end it. It was the war. The economy ended the depression because the war soaked up material, manpower and trillions to war weary Europe. If there were no war there would not be economic production. Money would have been just shared out to relieve the situation.
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
03:03 AM on 09/13/2011
You can't see it, can you. Keynesian economics ended the Great Depression. The huge increase in spending for the war was the stimulus Keynes said that it would take. And, he was right.
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jeromerudolf
11:07 PM on 09/12/2011
Simply because it defies common sense & isn't true. Keynesianism has never really worked for the good in the long run. Good economics is a system that eliminates waste in the distribution of goods & services. Cash for Clunkers was waste at its worst: I'll pay you money, from the taxpayer, if you throw your car away. Who got the money? Autoworkers, who vote for the man who produced the waste.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
06:19 AM on 09/13/2011
It is far better then trickle down voodoo.
09:15 PM on 09/12/2011
Lost in Space?

Tell Ford,FIAT,GM,Whirpool,GE to bring back the factorys from Mexico. Put the workers here to work.

Finish the border fence 100%. No excuses.

Fixing schools etc,dumb here and more teachers,not needed, over 3000 ILLEGAL immigrants?? Missing this year from K-12 in our schools. Teachers can get a job doing something else with there education.

AZ Zonie
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
09:35 PM on 09/12/2011
The 8 ft fence along the border has done wonders for the sale of 10 ft laddars at the Mexican Home Depots.
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04:49 AM on 09/13/2011
How about just enforcing regulations against the employers that are exploiting them?

We know where they are and where they live.
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JudgeMoonbox
09:08 PM on 09/12/2011
I just read a great comment from http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1016111/43275948#c6:

"Bridge Closed. Your Tax Cuts at Work."

-G2geek.
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cpsummer2457
To my son, who will live in my heart forever.
08:54 PM on 09/12/2011
Here we go again, round and round we go, where it stops nobody knows. It's a never ending cycle.
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cclawnj
08:50 PM on 09/12/2011
So the long and the short of it is, Republicans admit they can't possibly support another job-killing spending spree, while Democrats pretend that more of the same is the solution to Obama's failed economic program.
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Indiana420
Winston Churchill was right!
11:45 PM on 09/12/2011
That's pretty much it.....and it's not going to change until the next election. Then it will change, no matter who wins.
09:16 AM on 09/13/2011
I'm thinking it'll only change if someone besides Mr. Obama wins. If he does...we can expect more of the same, piled higher and deeper.
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OhMyBoehner
Beat that screen name!
08:12 PM on 09/12/2011
Love to see the republicans actually refuse the money - they'll be out of work just as fast as their state's unemployed! LOL
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08:26 PM on 09/12/2011
How many will pledge not to accept government assistance? (Then take the $$ and run)
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fairandbalanced100
08:45 PM on 09/12/2011
PROBABLY MANY . MANY OF THEM CRITICIZED THE STIMULUS , BUT TOOK THE
MONEY & USED TO DO THINGS, LIKE SAVE JOBS .
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Chipper1
07:31 PM on 09/12/2011
Hey! At least he's got a plan! He said in his speech that it's not the be-all, end-all. But it's a start. It's doing something, trying something. The other side is so busy fighting abortions, trying to defeat labor unions, eradicate Social Security, etc. They show they have NO plan at all to try to alleviate the crisis. You don't stimulate the economy by huge cutbacks -they just terrifies everyone including investors. Everything freezes up. The president's plan combines both philosophies - spend and cutback. How could anyone be against it. Try SOMETHING!
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cclawnj
08:50 PM on 09/12/2011
More of the same failed policies is not a plan.
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The ORF in Largo
Louder than a fart a hurricane
09:17 PM on 09/12/2011
Do you mean more tax breaks for the job cremators and job/profit exporters
09:17 AM on 09/13/2011
I see the spend, but Where's that cutback part?
07:25 PM on 09/12/2011
Obama is under the belief that the government creates jobs. He does not understand it's the free market / private sector that drives job growth. He keeps trying to create jobs in the public sector.
07:35 PM on 09/12/2011
Obama knows it will fail, that is why he is promoting it.
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
07:37 PM on 09/12/2011
Why of course, nedwards....presidents ALWAYS push for ideas they know will fail so they won't be reelected. Don't you ever think about the nonsense you are posting?
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bgofca
07:36 PM on 09/12/2011
you didn't read or even look at the jobs plan. you are just spewing faux news talking points. there are lots of incentives and tax breaks for small businesses to help with the private sector, within the jobs plans.
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cclawnj
08:57 PM on 09/12/2011
All of them temporary and therefore offering very little incentive to hire. What needs to happen is to repeal Obamacare, cut back on spending, and cut the corporate tax rate. But that will have to wait until Obama is turned out of office.