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CNN Poll: Respondents Give Lukewarm Favor To Jobs Act That's Full Of Policies They Support

Obama Jobs Bill Poll

First Posted: 09/14/11 03:16 PM ET Updated: 11/14/11 05:12 AM ET

The new CNN/ORC poll really is a curiosity. Conducted between Sept. 9 and Sept. 11, it admirably focuses on the enduring unemployment crisis, and the recent American Jobs Act that President Barack Obama is promoting in earnest. Right off the bat, we get standard reaffirmations of things I've been highlighting for months. "Are you better off than you were three years ago, or not?" By a 58-32 percent margin, respondents say they are "not better off." "If you had to choose, would you rather see Barack Obama and Congress pay more attention to reducing the budget deficit, or more attention to creating more jobs?" Unsurprisingly, by a 65-29 percent margin, respondents favor action on creating more jobs. Americans are concerned about their household debts. They aren't particularly concerned with the budget deficit.

Then, however, we get into the questions on the American Jobs Act:

"As you may know, Barack Obama gave a speech to a joint session of Congress on Thursday night in which he outlined a number of proposals concerning the economy and unemployment. Based on what you have read or heard, do you generally favor or oppose the proposals that Obama made in that speech?"

The good news for Obama is that he gets the lion's share of approval. The bad news is that it's pretty lukewarm:

Given the widespread nature of the unemployment crisis, and the fact that 65 percent of these respondents picked job creation as their top issue, that wavering 22 percent who have no opinion on the American Jobs Act is awfully high, especially when you consider how much barnstorming Obama did on the issue prior to the collection of these responses. Funny thing, though: Once the poll starts digging in to the components of the plan, they start having all sorts of opinions -- and the good news for the White House is that they are favorable opinions, at times dramatically so:



We've seen this phenomenon before, with the Affordable Care Act. The public's support, at its apex, for the "Obama plan" wasn't nearly as strong as the component parts of the policy.

What does this tell us? Well, it reminds us once again that polls like this often tell one story in their headline and a different story entirely below the fold. In turn, this promotes a call for better practices when it comes to collecting information and then reporting on the collection. In terms of politics, it certainly suggests a strong support for the component parts of the bill -- which would tend to bolster a common GOP argument that these wide-ranging measures are best passed by breaking them down into parts and doing it one step at a time.

But I'd argue that these are the wages of the public's constant exposure to horse-race politics, which place too much focus on political personalities, and not enough on policy. Here we have a jobs package packed with things the public supports, but they're somehow less sure of the things they favor when they become attached to Obama's advocacy, because approval of "Obama, political personality" is held in lower esteem than "Obama, policymaker." I'm not sure how the White House changes this dynamic. But these respondents need to understand that there isn't some other political figure who is going to come along and be more interested in passing these policies into law than Obama already is.

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The new CNN/ORC poll really is a curiosity. Conducted between Sept. 9 and Sept. 11, it admirably focuses on the enduring unemployment crisis, and the recent American Jobs Act that President Barack Oba...
The new CNN/ORC poll really is a curiosity. Conducted between Sept. 9 and Sept. 11, it admirably focuses on the enduring unemployment crisis, and the recent American Jobs Act that President Barack Oba...
 
 
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02:01 PM on 09/16/2011
Maybe Americans have decided that even though the message is good (or at least on face value) they have decided that the person giving the message is not to be trusted. We trusted him with 800 billion in 09 and we are still stuck with UE rates over 9%, and no real growth in the future.
02:47 PM on 09/16/2011
Oh how soon we forget how masterful the Republicans have manipulated the system to their advantage, and to the detriment of the American people.

The only thing I blame Obama for is being to idealistic about Republicans, and their motives. Lesson learned, Americans will almost always side with the bully, even if its against their own interest.
02:59 PM on 09/16/2011
Sorry but my post has nothing to do with Republicans vs. Democrats, but everything to do with the American people's will not being done by the POTUS. Sorry you cannot see it. You do remember the promise of changing how Washington does business? Why not hold him accountable for doing business the same ole way.
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Agy Wilson
For something to be a belief, it needs testing.
05:11 PM on 09/16/2011
You can say that, but if you look at the billions, TRILLIONS given away or lost in the last misadministration, I don't think that's why people doesn't trust him--- and btw, they trust him FAR more than the obstructionists. Personally and anecdotally the queasiness comes from him giving into to the obstructionists and weakening any help to the middle and lower classes.
06:58 PM on 09/15/2011
Maybe they are lukewarm because people have lost faith he'll actually stand by the whole plan. Already we read this week on HP that he'll be willing to sign "some of it into law" and I suppose then try to get the rest later. We all know what that means. The Republicans will get what they want and the good stuff for those who are suffering will die on the floor of Congress. If he'd show some moxie -- like using the power he has in every govt dept to do things that may miff the Republicans in Congress but they can't do anything about it. If he showed people he's willing to use power -- all that he has -- for their good and will fight to keep all the good stuff in legislation instead of going around the country hoping he can get the American people to step in on behalf of his plan...then, well maybe then, the masses wouldn't be lukewarm but behind it, and him, 100%.
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seanny53
Things fall apart, the center cannot hold
01:58 PM on 09/15/2011
It doesn't matter what the American people want; ot all, if any, of the jobs bill will pass. And we call it democracy. Sigh.
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mimiyo
fact vs. fiction
12:05 PM on 09/15/2011
With all due respect to my fellow Americans, issue related polls are meaningless given the fact most of the people being questioned lack factual knowledge regarding the issues they are being polled on. More times than not, issue related polls reflect ones emotions, not knowledge. Unfortunately their emotions are driven by information they have received from media sources who have bias and are politically motivated. Their emotions are driven by their personal situations, which are determined by many factors that pollsters seldom include in their qualifying of participants. Then there is the truth, or lack of truth factor in polling. The 24/7 news cycles , and I use the word news with hesitation, are what drive most peoples responses to pollsters, and we all know how unreliable those sources are. The only ones who benefit from these nonstop polls are the pollsters themselves. They get paid big bucks to conduct these polls. Whether it's issues I favor, or candidates I favor, I pay no attention to polls. After all, what real benefit are they?
02:21 PM on 09/16/2011
You are rights polls do not mean anything, except when the majority of them show a negative image of a POTUS and his policies. People might like the message overall but when they feel they cannot trust the messenger; they will always be negative overall to the message. Like someone else said all of the amenities offered by Rolls Royce are nice until you get a bad sales person and see the overall cost of said amenities, we do not need more burden on the tax payers back, especially after the first jobs bill did not stop the unemployment rate from going higher.
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mimiyo
fact vs. fiction
04:03 PM on 09/16/2011
You must be confused. If you believe polls regarding President Obama, then you must believe the polls released this week that show if the election were held today, Pres. Obama would win reelection? Oh, and there are all those polls that show his Pres. Obamas positive numbers to be higher than that of Congress and all of the GOP presidential candidates. Are those the polls you find meaningful?
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Randolph Greer
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11:36 AM on 09/15/2011
The reason people have less confidence in Obama as a politician is because he has established a singular fact in the minds of his friends and foes alike. People may not know much about Obama, but the one thing everyone is certain about is that Obama will cave-in to the extremist Republicans everytime. Not when the time comes, but long before he has to. . Obama has already announced that the Republicans don't have to pass it all. He said he would sign it if they just passed one part of it. So, if Obama is not wedded to his own proposal, why should anyone else be?
02:34 PM on 09/16/2011
Obama and everybody else knows the GOP wants to obstruct and make this a one term President. Obama's job plan has tax cuts for middle class Americans, and small business owners, and other hiring tax incentives. Clearly his plan is designed to illuminate to conscious Americans that the GOP will obstruct against their own principles of tax cuts.

As a result Obama can simply say the GOP is only interested in helping the affluent, and corporate special interests, while can say he stands for the middle class and small business.
03:04 PM on 09/16/2011
This bill is paid for by tax increase that will directly affect small business owners. That is like saying no new taxes on the middle class, yet that is who is directly targeted in the HC bill. Rich can afford HC, poor get theirs thru the Government, who are the people already strapped by increased cost, the middle class, who is going to have a hard time affording HC, the middle class, who will be punished if they do not get HC, the middle class.
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mrose001
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11:23 AM on 09/15/2011
American's and Congress should view this plan for what it is, a band aid for the economy to plug the job loss, and create some new jobs thus stimulating the economy. It will also buy time to tackle the real issues. Trade tariffs and taxes being the largest issue that has a cost Americans jobs. Until we have the choice again to buy Made in America over made in China or Mexico we are in trouble. If companies like Levis, and GE have their imports taxed high enough, and with fair tax codes they will be encouraged to reopen plants in America. If foreign goods are taxed high enough America will step up to fill the domestic demand because it is cheaper thus negating the cheap labor attained by outsourcing.

Then be honest and begin the deportation of the majority of illegal immigrants that are receiving the benefits of being American without becoming citizens. Give them a path to become Americans the right way without breaking our laws like all immigrants have had to do. That includes speaking English and knowing our laws and history.
09:33 AM on 09/15/2011
"Obama's advocacy, because approval of "Obama, political personality" is held in lower esteem than "Obama, policymaker." I'm not sure how the White House changes this dynamic."

I've gotta get something off my chest! So bear with me for a minute........ Anybody besides me see this as Deja Vu (Here go again). Once again, the POTUS puts forward a worthwhile idea(s) or proposal and when it comes time to sell it or get behind it full throttle....WHERE ARE THE DEMS???

I can tell you where they are HIDING. Meanwhile, the GOP mounts its monolithic viewpoint of saying NO to everything they can get away with then allow lukewarm DEMS (Joe Manchin, Bob Casey, and others) seeking re-election in GOTP districts to sound apprehensive or critical. The final as sault come when GOTP commentators seize on their lukewarm comments then try and mount an opposition keeping the DINOs in front.

Sound like anything we've seen before?..............when as TEA Partiers like to say "you had a majority in the congress", but that ignores the fact that DINOs (Joe Liebermann, Ben Neslon, and others) dealt like TEA partiers when time came to put up or shut up.

And it all ended with DEM supporters frustrated and lukewarm at the polling booths b/c DEMS were too frigh tened to run on their records or defend anything they may have accomplished.
11:13 AM on 09/15/2011
I think your on the right track. But the problem is more insidious then even that. It lies with the American voter, both in participation and information and agenda. And with the amount of money it takes to run for office and the lobbying in congress. We have essentially two Americas: the progressive/average worker/somewhat moderately informed TV watcher and the right wing rabid voter who buys what Rush is selling. That's why I've wanted to split the country. And congress/government is never going to get cleaned up until money in politics is greatly curtailed... meaning ONLY public financing of elections (money IS NOT SPEECH). And lobbying should be illegal,especially the revolving door between congress and lobbying.
And the TV networks should not be entitled to an annuity every election year for campaign ads... those should be free as part of their licencing agreement. We also need to bring back the fairness doctrine so that so called "low information voters" get to hear both sides of an issue.
11:41 AM on 09/15/2011
Morbius,

Your comments ring true, and you have to keep posting it that way!!!

I'll share with you the post i issue quite often and I'll say this again!!!..­­­..B/C it should be repeated to anyone claiming disappoint­­­ment.

This is why you get disappoint­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­m­e­n­­t from your gov't, because you expect disappoint­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­m­e­n­­t­­.

I submit to you that if you continue to elect reps who feel as though Gov't is ineffectiv­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­e­, work to make it that way and continue on a path to prove it then you've gotten all that you can expect to receive.

Effective Gov't will come from those who serve to make it that way for you and I; not serve to profit from it while making it appear to be the problem.
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Robert SF
01:41 PM on 09/15/2011
In what sense is it the voters' fault? Voters can only vote for the choices offered; they have no influence in selecting the choices.
11:32 AM on 09/15/2011
If Dems started governing like they don't care about re-election, they would get re-elected because we would see their passion and want to continue supporting them. Why else is Elizabeth Warren getting so much attention? She's passionate about her causes!

Republicans who spit in the face of the American public for their causes and their base eats it up.

GET SOME PASSION, DEMS!
11:52 AM on 09/15/2011
To coin a phrase: "right on"!!!
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wvmarv
Union Today, Union Tomorrow, Union Forever
12:17 PM on 09/15/2011
I agree, you have to give people a reason to come out and support you.
09:21 AM on 09/15/2011
I'm sure his bill will create a few jobs...temporary jobs at 3 or 4 hundred grand each.
Like the last time.
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Swiggen
For the Reps are Dark and Full of Terror
09:21 AM on 09/15/2011
This is where I get confused. These polls are rather limited to only a certain people, so why should we take them to heart? The final result is what truly matters and that is not coming from a poll by a few people.
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cintirich
Support the Constitution, not talking points.
09:32 AM on 09/15/2011
You apparently don't understand the purposes of a poll.
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Swiggen
For the Reps are Dark and Full of Terror
10:11 AM on 09/16/2011
You're right, I don't. I don't understand why the media makes these polls which are limited out to the final result in what is to happen.
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Robert SF
01:51 PM on 09/15/2011
They don't have to ask everyone. America has 300 million people, but because people agree with each other, there are not 300 million different opinions.

Suppose 200 million Americans believed A and the other 100 million believed B. So to figure out what America believes, you only need to ask three people -- two from the first group, and one from the second. And you might ask, but how do they know which three people to ask? That's a good point, which is why sample selection is an art. It's also why polls have a margin of error.
09:19 AM on 09/15/2011
Being "full of policies they support" ...are you trying to say that if there's anything at all in there someone would like, the bill should be passed in its entirety? That's what they said about obamacare too.

Most people like a piece of chocolate, but wouldn't want it if you put it in a pile of manure before offering it up.
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cintirich
Support the Constitution, not talking points.
09:13 AM on 09/15/2011
I'd argue that the contrast in support levels between the policies themselves and their presence on Obama's jobs plan is simple. People are getting better informed and are wary of Washington trickery.

It's easy to see why people would support policies such as reduced payroll taxes on their face. Ostensibly, they should create jobs. In Obama's plan however, these are only implemented for one year while the taxes levied are permanent increases. Therefore, in 2013, when taxes go up and the tax credits and incentives go away, businesses will be faced with the same woe they're facing now - a sluggish/stagnant economy - except that their taxes and payroll will be higher which will inevitably lead to layoffs.

Everything considered, maybe, just maybe, the respondents who polled high on the issues but low or lukewarm on the Jobs bill, see it for what it is - a gambit for reelection and nothing more.
09:10 AM on 09/15/2011
Polls can be made to say whatever the poll creator wants it to. The polling area, age and method make significant contributions to the resulting numbers.

In example, I recently received a phone call and was asked to take a short 3 question survey. I agreed.

Q: Do you think oil prices are too high?
A: yes

Q: Do you think importing oil from Canada would cost less than importing from the Middle East?
A: yes

Q: Can we say we have your support for an oil pipeline from Canada to the mid-west United States?
A: no

In this example if the poll taker wanted to show support for building a pipeline he would publish that I think prices are too high and importing from Canada is a better financial solution. The assumption is that I support a pipeline.

If the poll taker wants to show opposition to a pipeline he would publish simply that I do not support the construction of a pipeline from Canada to the US.

Same poll, opposite results – the problem is that a lot of voting Americans want to “fit in” so they vote the way they think the majority are going. Like a bunch of sheep just following the herd. The next thing we know we have voted in something the majority is against simply because the most popular polls inaccurately showed the majority was for.

Make your own decisions, educate yourself on the issues your voting for!
11:49 AM on 09/15/2011
I was thinking the same thing when it comes to that highly touted "right track/wrong track" poll numbers. I have yet to hear, see or read about anyone that actually delves into those poll numbers in order to see what exactly the question entails. I tend to think that the high wrong track numbers indicate that the overwhelming majority of people see the antics of the teapartiers and obstructionist republicans as well as their so-called ideas (more tax cuts for corporations that have not and will not create jobs) as being on the wrong track. Yet the media does a great job of erroneously connecting those poll numbers to President Obama's policies, when nothing points directly to that conclusion. Seeing that the President's approval ratings have remained higher than congress and republicans specifically, I don't see the correlation. I know if I were polled on the right track/wrong track question my answer would be wrong track because of the direction I see the republicans/conservatives want to take the country. This country cannot survive on ideas fit for the 1800's.
02:25 PM on 09/16/2011
Please tell me that people do not vote just to fit in with the majority, which is like saying 96% of a certain group voted based on the message and not the messenger. Say it ain't so BO.
mikdfour
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08:58 AM on 09/15/2011
Most people love the separate features of a Rolls Royce also, until they look at the price tag.
09:20 AM on 09/15/2011
Good point.
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Bocababs
08:52 AM on 09/15/2011
Jason, Can any of us really blame the country for feeling this way? I have a little part time job, but I have to drive 34 miles one-way to get there. There are no jobs anywhere unless you are willing to take a course ($800 to $4000), and most of us working part time do not have that kind of cash laying around, or....to move to another city where there are possibilities, and most of us do not have that kind of cash laying around to sustain us until we find work. So......it has become a Merry-Go-Round of helplessness, and I cannot blame the people for being anything less than angry.
08:58 AM on 09/15/2011
If you need to take a course to get a better job, why would you not support programs that help keep community colleges open & affordable? If you cannot sell a home and move to where you can find a job, shouldn't you support a program that will help stabilize the real estate market? Getting angry and voting against your economic interests is not a solution.
11:35 AM on 09/15/2011
So who are you voting for in November 2012?

Republicans ran on JOBS JOBS JOBS in 2010. Are you satisfied with what has (or hasn't) been delivered by Republicans on that front since they won the House?
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Robert SF
01:53 PM on 09/15/2011
Why taunt people like that? The truth is that neither party has delivered. There is not a whit of real difference between Republicans and Democrats. Yes, yes, the Democrats are ever so marginally to the left of the Republicans. That's not a real difference.
08:42 AM on 09/15/2011
LUNTZ'S LEGACY

The great Republican cynical manipulator Frank Luntz said: ask people whether they want health care and education, they will answer in the affirmative; but ask them whether the government should spend on those items, they will say no.

Public opinion has been conditioned by two decades of unabating propaganda of the"libertarian" right, a counterpropaganda is necessary to correct this state of things.
This educational work should be on the Democrats' agenda.
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Bocababs
08:54 AM on 09/15/2011
Years from now, Historians will look back on this time and NEVER figure out how the hay this country was totally led by idiots with a few talking points they send out every day. Historians will be staggered by the question....."Didn't anyone think for themselves during this period"?
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cintirich
Support the Constitution, not talking points.
09:18 AM on 09/15/2011
If the federal government didn't have such a long and distinguished record of waste, fraud, abuse, inefficiency, and special interest pandering, attached to virtually all of their programs, voters might be more open to overarching programs like this.
11:10 AM on 09/15/2011
then why do republicans/ tea folks continue to vote for the waste , you say that when a school is built or bridge etc.. it's a host of things such as inefficiency special interest pandering . Case in point private contractors in Iraq/ Afghanistan 100 hundred of millions in waste and fraud , but twice the Bush/ Republicans voted for no bid contracts! it flies in the face of free enterprise,and just when the are some corrections made on bidding have been made Katrina hits and instantly most of the major repairs were again no bid. want to get rid of some of it ( you will never get rid of all inefficiency's/ pandering ) how about campaign reform / lobbiest reform the two things republicans fight hardest to keep. all I'm saying is if you wait to do any thing because of waste you, no we ! would never have gone to the moon, build are highway system, possibly not won WWII, the Marshall Plan which rebuilt Europe all successes but all fraught with waste and abuse.
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Robert SF
01:37 PM on 09/15/2011
A lot of that inefficiency and waste is a myth promoted by the right. It goes hand in hand with the myth that the private sector is highly efficient.