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Obama Will Veto Super-Committee Plan That's All Medicare Cuts And No Tax Hikes

Obama Veto

First Posted: 09/18/11 11:49 PM ET Updated: 11/18/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama will veto a comprehensive deficit reduction package if it includes cuts to entitlement program benefits but no tax hikes on the wealthy or well-to-do corporations, senior advisers said on Sunday.

The veto threat is an addendum of sorts to a $3 trillion-plus set of deficit reduction proposals that the White House will make to the congressional super committee tasked with comprehensive deficit reduction. But if administration officials are to be believed, it is now a principle by which the committee must act and it raises the specter of gridlock. Just last week, House Speaker John Boehner insisted that tax hikes should be off the table.

"[W]hat the president is saying is he is not doing [beneficiary reforms] if the Republicans are unwilling to ask the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share," explained a senior administration official. "What they can't do is send something to us with the things we propose and without the stuff on the revenue side because we will veto that."

Previewing the president's proposal during a conference call on Sunday evening, the same administration officials confirmed that Obama would not be calling for changes to Social Security payments or a raising of the eligibility age of Medicare -- reforms that he had embraced during talks with Boehner over the summer.

"Because it is his vision and not a legislative compromise being crafted to garner some number of votes in the House and the Senate, it is inherently different from the grand bargain he was working on with the Speaker," explained on official, who left open the possibility that the president would endorse further means testing Medicare.

In addition to explaining what he would not sign into law, the president on Monday will also outline what his preferred deficit reduction methods during a speech on Monday. Of the $3 trillion-plus in reductions, $1.5 trillion would be made up of tax increases. That total includes $800 billion from letting the Bush tax cuts for earners above $250,000-a-year expired, and $700 billion by ending special interest breaks, deductions, exclusions, and through closing loopholes – reforms that the president has already said he wants done to pay for his jobs plan

The president will also advance what is being referred to as a Buffett rule, which states that the tax rates paid by someone who earns a million dollars or more shouldn't be lower than the rates that middle-income wage earners pay. That rule, however, will be more of a guiding principle for tax reform than detailed law, administration officials said.

As part of his debt reduction plan, the president will also count the $1 trillion in savings that will come from the drawdowns of the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, senior administration officials said. That calculus is expected to be ridiculed as an accounting gimmick by Republicans. But those same officials noted that the Congressional Budget Office counts those numbers and that House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) included those savings in his own budget.

Finally, the president's deficit reduction plan will include $580 billion in cuts and reforms to a "broad range of mandatory programs," the officials confirmed. This includes $240 billion in Medicare cuts and $72 billion in cuts to Medicaid and other health care programs. Some of those cuts will be on the beneficiary side, administration officials confirmed. But those won't take affect until 2017. The White House estimates that the totality of their reforms could extend the life of the Medicare trust fund by three years.

None of this includes the approximately $1 trillion in cuts that congressional negotiators have already signed off on as part of a deal to raise the nation's debt ceiling this past August -- a deal that also established the congressional super committee.

"This will bring the country to a place whereby in the middle of this decade, current spending is no longer adding to our debt," said a senior administration official. "Debt will be falling as a share of the economy, as a percentage of GDP; and deficits on a year-by-year basis will be at a sustainable level so that we maintain that."

Taken as a whole -- and considering the surrounding political realities -- the president's proposal represents an ambitious starting point for what seems likely to be weeks if not months of intense negotiations. Indeed, if you exclude the $1 trillion in savings already realized and count the $1 trillion in troop drawdowns as a budget saving (as opposed to a spending cut), the proposal Obama will unveil on Monday will include three dollars in revenue raisers for one dollar in every spending reduction.

"I think this is less 'Let's be the grownups in the room and start at the 50 yard line,' and more 'Let's start on our side of the field,'" Jared Bernstein, former economic adviser to Vice President Joe Biden, told the Wall Street Journal.

That said, there is reason to believe that the deficit-reduction talks will evolve dramatically from here. For starters, Boehner and Obama did make progress in narrowing their differences during their August negotiations. And if the super committee were to remain in gridlock, it would result in a severe cuts to defense spending and Medicare funding one year later -- triggers that neither side want pulled.

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wayne the pain
06:04 PM on 09/24/2011
He will veto a bill with Medicare cut and no tax increase! Is this guy a liberal or what? I now see why many see him as a Socialist! He will veto a bill with only cuts to middle class programs, wow this guy is a socialist. Next he will want the rich to pay their fair share. He doesn't get it that the rich create all those minimum wage jobs with no benefits. next he wil promote unions that create lazy nonproductive workers that just want absurd things like safe work environment, medical care for their families. These workers will want to own their own home and have some vacations. We can't have that! This socialist Obama has shown no interest in promoting these "unAmerican ideas but you never know! We need to elect Religious Rick Perry to keep the wealthy in power and the poor where they belong, in their place!
02:54 AM on 09/22/2011
How very, very sad.

Democratic Party has morphed from protecting the little guy, into abusing Federal power for retribution and cronyism, for whoever whines loud enough for handouts in exchange for their vote.

Freedom and individual responsibility, out the window. It's all about political slavery and dependence.
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smburwick
08:05 PM on 09/21/2011
WFWS: you are clueless. Stay where you are.
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smburwick
08:04 PM on 09/21/2011
pfz:you are the one in the dark. Cass Sunstein wrote NUDGE. Why don't you do a little research on these miscreants? Do you know who Stephanie Power is? What is Valerie Jarrett's background? Holdren? Ever hear about him? I knew of his writings when I was in college.
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smburwick
08:01 PM on 09/21/2011
JamesLM207: If they they get all of the tax money from the rich, it will be 41 million. If they took all of their money it wouldn't even touch the deficit of 1.3 trillion this year. Now when they tax the rich, where do you think BO will put the money? Pay down the deficit? NOT.
05:51 PM on 09/21/2011
Has anyone ever been employed by a poor people ? You tax the rich, sooner or latter they run out of money. BHO cannot come out with a single plan of is own . Not even a slogan of is own . He stole " YES WE CAN " from PBS Bob The Builder . Americas Work Act is just one more skim of his .Wake up America ! BHO Agenda is to bankrupt America that way he can really transform our nation into a Socialist Country ! Those are is Dreams . Read " Audacit Of Hope " were he say : I hate white and brown men that don't think like me :
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smburwick
08:02 PM on 09/21/2011
Now if the moonbats took the time to read his book, do you think they would get it?
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wtf is this
It depends.
11:04 PM on 09/21/2011
You tax the poor too much, pretty soon they figure it makes no difference whether they work their butts off & have nothing to show at the end of the day or to simply stop working.

The rich are doing quite fine right now, they've been able to save up nicely since the bush tax cuts & certainly haven't been creating jobs with that money.
04:08 PM on 09/21/2011
I tire of this dog and pony show. The government has failed us.
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smburwick
05:39 PM on 09/21/2011
smoke and mirrors from this administration. Lawsuits going on: Solyndra, the Colonel who was told to change his story, fast and furious---selling American guns to Mexican cartel to use to kill. Then people would be outraged and want the ban of arms!----Just like liberals to set up a scam to get their way.
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rjh252a1
Not Empty. Just Private
06:22 PM on 10/07/2011
So true. Be sure to sign petitions supporting the 2nd Amen. There are plenty out there.
Pardon the pun, but power back in the hands of the people. Keep posting and keep active every way you can. Blessings!
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Sock No 4
Comfy sock
01:00 PM on 09/21/2011
If Obama vetoes it and the defense cuts kick in, does that affect benefits to veterans?
11:21 AM on 09/21/2011
It's NO GOOD, Mr. President!!! You should be telling them NO MEDICARE CUTS, PERIOD!!!!! Who are you working for?
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rjh252a1
Not Empty. Just Private
06:23 PM on 10/07/2011
Himself and the S/G/P.
10:23 AM on 09/21/2011
We really need increased REVENUE to pay down the deficit created by 8 years of Bush with his tax cuts, handouts to corporations all while engaging in a major war. Administrations in the past never cut taxes during wartime. War does cost money. He wiped out the surplus Clinton left and plunged us into mammoth debt. Obama's efforts thus far have failed because those who gained these benefits are like a pack of spoiled brats who cannot live without the extra icing on their cupcakes.

Folks on SS have had NO cost of living raises for about 3 years. They are unjustly being squeezed which is just fine with the likes of John Boehner, who has not had his cola increases taken from him. That is just one example of the lopsided mindset of our Republican Congress. They favor continous war as in Afghanistan at 2 billion per week, while ranting about wiping out so called entitlements. Meantime they are living high and mighty and untouched by reality. They are not fit to be in the positions they occupy.
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weathergirl
loved politics as a little girl!
11:46 PM on 09/21/2011
Fan #68 and marked as favorite for your post the other day! Thank you!
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stopgov
We have IRRECONCILABLE differences
09:43 PM on 09/20/2011
I love the plan to raise taxes on the "rich." If the Fed keeps printing money, it will devalue the U.S. Dollar, and we'll all be millionaires, and thus we can be taxed. The Alternative Minimum Tax was inacted in 1969, to get more money from the rich. In 1970, only 19,000 paid it. Today, millions pay the AMT.
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Doug Girard
I will take a Raptor over a politician anyday.
10:20 PM on 09/20/2011
News flash. The dollar is already devalued.
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stopgov
We have IRRECONCILABLE differences
08:27 AM on 09/21/2011
Agreed, but the more the Fed prints, the worse it gets!
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
05:52 PM on 09/20/2011
CUTS AT THE TOP make sense, like means-testing of social security benefits, which would do the least (if any) harm to the economy, would be inherently just, and would maintain a strong stable economic base for the elderly and disabled. For example, a three star general will be able to retire with about $150,000 a year annual pension, with annual COLA adjustments, plus Tricare benefits paying the Medicare deductible, out-of-pocket expenses are negligible; how much social security does such a retiree NEED on top of these benefits? That's a cut that I could support.
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dad4lifesl
Educated White Heterosexual Male & a Proud Vet!
09:10 AM on 09/21/2011
So let me get this straight. I will be forced to pay into the SS my entire working life but when it comes time to collect, if I have been too successful I lose that money? Sounds like another way to redistribute wealth to me and I really do not like it...
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
07:15 PM on 09/22/2011
All governments redistribute wealth; it's inherent in their function. Right now we have a government that is transferring wealth to those who are already most wealthy, while the numbers of the poor are growing at alarming rates.
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Father Tom
CPA, VietNam Vet, Not a Priest
02:22 PM on 09/20/2011
OF COURSE the majority of people are in favor of raisning taxes on the other guy!

"Don't tax him; don't tax me; tax that guy behind the tree."
02:14 PM on 09/20/2011
Imagine one of your kids running up a huge credit card debt, refusing to stop spending, then turning around to you (in high moral outrage) and telling you to cover it!!!. That is the position of this President who defines "millionaires /billionaires" as individuals with adjusted gross incomes of $200K and families at $250K. Only a fool would consider raising taxes in this economy, but that is our problem. On his recent veto threat, The President already shifted $500Billion out of Medicare over the next ten years to help pay for ObamaCare, maybe he intends a retoractive veto of ObamaCare. Now that would be a great idea.
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weathergirl
loved politics as a little girl!
11:50 PM on 09/21/2011
Only a fool would keep two wars off the bush and claim that tax cuts for the wealthy are the only way to create jobs. How many jobs were created in the last decade with all of the tax cuts by bush and cheney????
02:11 PM on 09/20/2011
Finally Mr. President is showing who is Boss.... these repubs never have the will to support a working guy or the senior citizen. It is all about their Payback for the bribe they have taken from big donors.One has to be naive not to see this! Some Joe six packs and teabaggers have put bigotry ahead of thier personal finacial well being!
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Father Tom
CPA, VietNam Vet, Not a Priest
02:24 PM on 09/20/2011
Pssst! Rcard has offically been replaced with H()stage. Please comply.
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Doug Girard
I will take a Raptor over a politician anyday.
10:21 PM on 09/20/2011
Roget that. Target in sight. Call the ball.