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Housing Market Split Between Very Rich And Everyone Else

By MICHELLE CONLIN   09/21/11 10:29 PM ET   AP

-- In America, it's starting to feel as if there are two housing markets. One for the rich and one for everyone else.

Consider foreclosure-ravaged Detroit. In the historic Green Acres district, a haven for hipsters, a pristine, three-bedroom brick Tudor recently sold for $6,000 – about what a buyer would have paid during the Great Depression.

Yet just 15 miles away, in the posh suburban enclave of Birmingham, bidding wars are back. Multi-million-dollar mansions are selling quickly. Sales this August were up 21 percent from the previous year. The country club has ended its stealth discounts on new memberships. And Main Street's retail storefronts are full.

"We're getting more showings, more offers and more sales," says Ronni Keating, a real estate agent with Sotheby's International.

Think of this housing market as bipolar. In the luxury sector, the recession is a memory and sales and prices are rising. But everywhere else, the market is moving sideways or getting worse.

In the housing market inhabited by most Americans, prices have fallen 30 percent or more since the peak in 2007. That's a steeper decline than during the Depression. Some people have had their homes on the market for a year without a single offer.

Almost a quarter of American homeowners owe more on their house than it's worth. Another quarter have less than 20 percent equity. About half of homeowners couldn't get a mortgage if they applied today, says Paul Dales, senior U.S. economist for Capital Economics.

But then there is the other housing market, occupied by 1.5 percent of the U.S. population, according to Zillow.com. The one with outdoor kitchens and in-home spas; with his-and-her boudoirs and closets the size of starter houses. The one that is not local but global, with international buyers bidding in all cash. And where the gyrations of the stock market are cause for conversation, not cutting expenses.

In this land of luxury properties, the Great Recession seems over. Prices of $1 million-plus properties have risen 0.7 percent since February, according to Zillow. Prices of houses under $1 million have fallen more than 1.5 percent.

Normally, these two segments of the housing market rise and fall together. But now, they're moving in opposite directions.

"Luxury is the best performing segment of the housing market right now," says Zillow.com chief economist Stan Humphries.

After every recession since World War II, housing has led the economic recovery. Not this time. The renewed vitality in the comparatively small market for luxury homes is not enough to power a full-blown recovery. This bifurcation in the market is yet another reason Michelle Meyer, the chief economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, says her housing outlook is "increasingly downbeat."

The phenomenon is not limited to real estate. You can see the same split in other gauges of the economy. Sales at Saks versus Walmart. Pay on Wall Street versus Main Street. Corporate profits versus family balance sheets.

The divide is also making credit a perk of the rich. Mortgage rates are the lowest in decades. But what good are absurdly cheap rates if you can't get a mortgage? The banks aren't granting credit to anyone "who even has a smudge on their application," says Jonathan Miller, founder of real estate consulting firm Miller Samuel. Applications for new mortgages languish at 10-year lows.

Across the country, prices on high-end homes fell after the subprime crash in the fall of 2008. The price on the $25 million mansion became $20 million, then $15 million. Such "bargains" are pushing more luxury buyers to commit to more deals.

There are other factors, too. In Detroit, a recovering auto industry is helping propel high-end sales. All those car executives who have helped turnaround the American auto industry used to rent. Now they are using their performance bonuses to buy homes.

Wall Street's recovery has brought back the market for mansions in the Hamptons, on Long Island, where the number of closings has returned to the 2007 level, and for luxury co-ops in New York City. And because of social-network riches in Silicon Valley, twice as many homes have sold for $5 million or more this year than last.

But in the other housing market, an apartment tower built in 2007 in San Jose, Calif., recently converted to all-rental. The building had not sold a single unit. In Miami, a city that exemplifies the foreclosure epidemic, idled cranes dot the skyline. Unemployment shot up again this summer from 12 percent to 14 percent, a level not seen since the energy crisis in 1973. There are so many two-bedroom condos in gated communities with golf courses, private pools and rustic jogging paths that you can pick one up for $25,000, 66 percent off the price five years ago. But luxury condos priced at $1 million or more are selling as rapidly as they did during the boom.

"In the 20 years that I have been in South Florida real estate, I have never seen a greater divide between those who have and those who have not," says Peter Zalewski, founder of the real estate firm Condo Vultures.

One big factor in the divide is foreign cash, at least in the world of property. For international buyers, U.S. real estate is the new undervalued asset, the new fire sale, and foreigners are big buyers of luxury properties. International clients bought $82 billion worth of U.S. residential real estate last year, up from $66 billion in 2009. In states like Florida, international buyers account for a third of purchases, up from 10 percent in 2007.

"Luxury properties are drawing buyers from all over the world," says CoreLogic's chief economist, Mark Fleming.

That's true even in such seemingly all-American enclaves as Detroit. Step off a plane at the city's futuristic new airport and the internationalization of the Motor City is obvious. All the signs – as well as the announcements on the public address system – are in both Chinese and English.

In the middle of the terminal sits a five-star Westin Hotel, the better to serve the global executive class that jets in and out as the U.S. auto industry regains its footing. Many of them are buying in Birmingham, where home values are up 3.1 percent this year, according to Zillow.com.

In Birmingham, local store owners say business is as good as it was during the boom years last decade. Chasta Fase, who owns Old World Olive Press, a boutique shop that sells $30 bottles of olive oil from all around the world says business "has been just awesome" since she opened her doors in November. And since April, she says, customers have been spending more than ever.

Real estate agent Keating says the same is happening to her sales. In June, she sold a lakefront mansion in Birmingham to a Russian entrepreneur. He had purchased a local steel company that he plans to turn around.

"They're coming from all over," says Keating, who for the past 30 years has sold most of the car barons their homes, from Roger Smith, the former CEO of General Motors, to former Chrysler CEO Bob Nardelli. "I don't know who any of them are anymore."

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-- In America, it's starting to feel as if there are two housing markets. One for the rich and one for everyone else. Consider foreclosure-ravaged Detroit. In the historic Green Acres district, a ha...
-- In America, it's starting to feel as if there are two housing markets. One for the rich and one for everyone else. Consider foreclosure-ravaged Detroit. In the historic Green Acres district, a ha...
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NameUnknown
How others see you is less important than how you
03:18 PM on 10/10/2011
The reason they're saying that there's never been a better time to buy is that very few people are in a position to qualify. Those who do qualify either have enough cash to just buy a home outright, or they have squeaky-clean credit, in addition to a well-paying, stable job. Hmmm, that would seem to leave out about 99% of the country right now.
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Carol Thacker Pullen
11:24 PM on 09/23/2011
The housing market would improve greatly if it did not take six months to complete a short sale. An agent told me there are many buyers out there that just become frustrated with the entire process of buying a home. These are qualified buyers who are approved for a loan and then before it is finalized the bank is coming back and changing the terms and requiring such an extent of documents and paperwork that they wear the buyer down and they end up loosing the sale. There must be a way to determine a good buyer from one that might default and still keep it reasonable.
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
11:32 PM on 09/23/2011
Read this if you don't mind being made really angry.

http://www­.thestreet­.com/story­/11224917/­1/a-huge-h­ousing-bar­gain--but-­not-for-yo­u.html
09:44 PM on 09/23/2011
Headline is wrong, should say "between the very rich/GOP and everyone else".
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lonewolfwisconsin
StandingOnYourGround-TreadingOnYourSnakeFlag
05:24 PM on 09/23/2011
The "rich" own NOTHING...
1.) Everything they got they took from us
2.) They created monopolies to rip us off
3.) They bought Congress to protect them
4.) They either paid slave wages or charged too much for goods and services.

THUS THE RICH OWN NOTHING,.. IT ALL BELONGS TO US!
Watch for the Barbarians at the Gated Communities in a town near you... very soon.
These "rich" shall be left in the Cul-De-Sacs holding one box with all their worldly possessions.

CLASS WAREFARE??? THEY'VE BEEN SHOOTING AT US SINCE 1980
THEY GOT RICH BY MAKING US POOR...WAKE-UP AMERICA..FIGHT BACK!
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08:40 AM on 09/24/2011
You're not angry are you?
03:25 PM on 09/23/2011
Someone had the nerve to tell me they think the unemployment rate is an exaggeration and the foreclosure rate is not so bad.
They must watch Faux.
I think the rates of both are underated as wall street would not want to give the true numbers of the unemployed or foreclosures to hurt the stock market.
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08:36 AM on 09/24/2011
That would be the Obama regime telling you that.
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bynddrvn5
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02:04 PM on 09/23/2011
Of course, the real estate market turned into Wall Street part II. A place where some people think it is a big casino where you can make big money.

This is wrong in several key areas:
You are better off in a casino, the house is only slightly favored
Those who know the game, lie about how to play the game
Laws protect the big guy and do not protect the homeowner, in fact it is legal for a mortgage broker to lie to your face as long as the details are buried somewhere in the contract.
Banks only deal with people they know will overvalue homes and will shut out people who refuse to "play ball."
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
06:56 AM on 09/23/2011
Thank You much for the link.

This needs to become public knowledge as quickly as possible.
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IndyFem
09:09 AM on 09/23/2011
ichan...Great info, thanks! Fan/Fave....

"The investors in this program have been waiting for this opportunity since the portfolio of homes owned by HUD began to spike in 2007"

This gives credence to the theory I have had for the past few years....that the foreclosure mess was anticipated in the original Master Plan..
02:09 PM on 09/23/2011
Yes this story is actually more important than the one we're commenting on. I haven't seen it on HuffPo so I hope someone digs in and follows up.
Bear Left
so the hunters went home
07:48 PM on 09/22/2011
Get used to it, folks: Everthing is being split into two markets, one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us. That's what the Greed Only Party wants, and Faux News is busy convincing everyone with anything to lose that this is what's good for them. By the time they figure it out ...

Well, how long did it take the Germans to figure out that their fuehrer, elected by more than 90% of their electorate­, wasn't exactly bringing them peace and prosperity­? (And he didn't even have a TV network in his pocket.) And what did they have left when he was finished?
06:32 PM on 09/22/2011
I don't see any housing improvements (market) any time soon. The exception is the desirable neighborhood that folks want to live and will do anything to be part of that area.
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Realtors Are Liars
NAR is CORRUPT
08:22 PM on 09/22/2011
Those former "desireable" areas haven't barely entered their price decline phase.

Case in point: Malibu, California

Even the wealthy are desperate to get OUT of housing in Malibu.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-luxury-auction-20110915,0,7781736,full.story
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
11:11 PM on 09/22/2011
More lies from the Liar Bankster.

Buy NOW or pay 80% more later.
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IndyFem
06:30 PM on 09/22/2011
This may be the key to controlling further depreciation in the housing market....

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/09/mortgage-rates-fed-housing-home-buyers-refi-operation-twist-.html
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Realtors Are Liars
NAR is CORRUPT
06:51 PM on 09/22/2011
Why do you Iying reaItors have a problem with affordable housing? Why do you continually lie to buyers, knowing they're going to take massive losses over the next 10-20 years?
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
07:13 PM on 09/22/2011
Wow! Hard to imagine home rates below 4% !!!!

I can remember rates in the high teens back in the late 70s.
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IndyFem
07:43 PM on 09/22/2011
I know...me too! Bought a house in 1986 with 20% down and a loan @ 11.25%
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Realtors Are Liars
NAR is CORRUPT
08:01 PM on 09/22/2011
Just think how far prices will fall when rates go up a point or two.

Why buy a house today when you can buy later for 60% less?
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IndyFem
06:19 PM on 09/22/2011
Housing prices during the Bank Induced bubble....were beyond reason. Everyone should realize this by now. Of course prices were going to fall once the scheme fell apart. However, once they return to 2002 prices...they will stabilize and they are almost there. Don't expect them to go down more than that.
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Realtors Are Liars
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06:50 PM on 09/22/2011
Nice try Iying realtor but you better prepare to roll back to early 1990's housing prices.

Why buy a house today when you can buy later for 60% less?
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
07:14 PM on 09/22/2011
And in many areas, there really wasn't a bubble.

I live in the rural Midwest and prices here have been fairly stable after a slight initial dip.
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Realtors Are Liars
NAR is CORRUPT
08:02 PM on 09/22/2011
WRONG again.

Why perpetuate the myth that prices didn't double at a minimum? Now prices have to return to 1990's levels and we're a long way from there yet.

Why buy a house today when you can buy later for 60% less?
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GetRealSoon
Finding Fraudster
05:01 PM on 09/22/2011
Hmm. I had a homeowners title policy of insurance that protects me for life in the event of fraud. The SEC charged my lender for stated-income fraud. The policy wont be any good when you find out the fraudster was the lender.
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shankapotomus
04:32 PM on 09/22/2011
Well you see what happens when the government lets people buy a house they can't afford.
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Realtors Are Liars
NAR is CORRUPT
05:08 PM on 09/22/2011
And how did they become so unaffordable in the first place?
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shankapotomus
05:27 PM on 09/22/2011
Thats got noting to do with making banks loan to people that couldn't get it on their credit rating.
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Mark Montgomery
The forces of fear do not scare me
06:25 PM on 09/22/2011
I guess you didn't read the article about Countrywide's fraudulent activity and their frining of whistle blowers. It's ok. I know you children like to play make believe and make it up as you go along.
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cats530
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07:16 PM on 09/22/2011
lol. But Rush and Beck told him it was true. How could his heroes possibly be wrong?
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
07:17 PM on 09/22/2011
Fraudulent inducement.
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04:14 PM on 09/22/2011
The entire global economy is moving toward efficiency through automation and menial work is quickly becoming technologically replaced.

Unfortunately this means that those with low skills will forever be lost wondering through an economy that no longer has need of them. It's a painful truth - the worst part is, our education system largely over the last two decades has been controlled by a group of people that have done little else but make the US the laughing stock of high school (and below) education - GLOBALLY.

It's a total tragedy, but also a total reality. The new era will require massive amounts of engineers, mechanical, electrical, server based, everything in IT - but no… our education system created social workers, shrinks, and those who wanted to be in "communications" sorry but America doesn't have a lot of need for these positions… anymore.
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04:18 PM on 09/22/2011
Forgot to add…

This is why there will be an even greater gap in wealth, the top end will continue to gain in value because it is controlled by those with professional skills.
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Ferris J Anderson
reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated.
03:35 PM on 09/22/2011
I am a real estate broker. I've been seeing this same phenomena here in my town. Homes priced at $600k and up are actually increasing in value, while homes below continue to fall. The only other sub market I see rising is the $60k and below, and those are mostly investor homes being bought for rental income and a low term hold.It's really interesting to see these things.
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Realtors Are Liars
NAR is CORRUPT
03:59 PM on 09/22/2011
There isn't a house on the planet worth more than $150k so good luck trying to dump those grossly inflated shacks.
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04:16 PM on 09/22/2011
I would loveeeeee that to be the case then my taxes would be a heck of a lot lower. Please do what you can to convince local council members to have all homes at the 150k and below level so I don't have to pay in as much

thanks :)
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
11:35 PM on 09/23/2011
Ha! realorpretend pwned you harsh.

You are such a joke.