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HPV Vaccine For Boys? CDC Considers Recommending Vaccinations For All

Hpv Vaccine Boys

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 09/23/11 07:02 PM ET Updated: 11/23/11 05:12 AM ET

Vaccinating just half the population against human papilloma virus (HPV) only solves half the problem.

Now that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend that girls and young women be vaccinated against the disease that can lead to cervical cancer, the treatment's effectiveness with regard to the male population is beginning to come into the limelight. In fact, the CDC is now considering recommending the shot for boys as well, according to Health Day.

From Health Day:

A debate that's been simmering over whether males also should be vaccinated for human papillomavirus, or HPV, could come to a head in October at a meeting of a key advisory committee of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said CDC spokesman Tom Skinner.

Previous studies have shown that the HPV vaccine could even have a more powerful effect than simply immunizing males against the disease and protecting women. According to Science Daily, one study showed that giving the vaccine to men could prevent as many as 90 percent of genital warts cases.

A study published in March also said that almost half of the male population of the US could be infected with HPV.

The issue of immunizing girls to the virus has returned to the limelight recently amidst the GOP Presidential debates. Notably, Texas Governor Rick Perry's 2007 mandate to require young girls to be vaccinated against the disease has drawn criticism from fellow conservatives.

According to Everyday Health, the measure was overridden in 2008.

While the safety of the HPV vaccine is generally established and still remains recommended by the government health agency, it has been shown in some studies to be associated with anaphylaxis, blood clots and fainting, and linked with some deaths.

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sabelmouse
my micro bio is emty
12:47 PM on 11/07/2011
re the ethics of pharmaceuticals and governments when it comes to medical research.

Broadcast on: 6 October 2011
Prime Time
In a full-length film, Prime Time's Katie Hannon reveals details of how children from mother and baby homes were used as test subjects by pharmaceutical companies who were trialling new vaccines.

http://www.rte.ie/news/av/2011/1006/primetime.html
01:57 PM on 10/11/2011
Why is no one talking about the fact that this vaccine has been only used on girls? Last time I checked, most girls would be GETTING HPV from .....BOYS.
Perhaps because girls are "disposable' ? They are willing to experiment on girls, but not boys/men? where is the outrage about this?
04:58 PM on 10/25/2011
And where did the boys get it from ?
04:42 AM on 10/10/2011
There have been accusations of corruption on several levels regarding promotion of Gardasil.
It has not been shown to prevent one single case of cervical cancer. It has been shown to cause far more adverse effects than other vaccines. It has been shown to cause deaths. Long term side effects are unknown. It increases the risk of brain damage. It causes seizures. It causes outbreak of genital and facial warts. It probably increases the risk of blood clots. It possibly increases risk of miscarriage or babies born with anomalies.

Seven out of ten get a new illness after taking the vaccine. Read that sentence again.

If it is taken when HPV is already present it increases the risk of cancer by over 44%. Read that sentence again.

It increases the risk of positive PAP smears. It is not tested to see if it causes cancer. It may also cause cancer through replacement (new virus strains which replace the ones removed may be more cancer causing). It may cause cancer due to the presence of recombinant (gene manipulated) DNA. Other consequences due to the presence of this DNA are unknown and may be horrific.
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Marsha McClelland
09:39 PM on 10/04/2011
Here's undeniable proof to facts behind toxic vaccines some are here to push. After anyone being honest watches this, they won't be able to ever speak on behalf of vaccines, ever, again;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hITYIT02rA
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
08:44 AM on 10/05/2011
Another life-saving therapy explained in the prestigious New England Journal of The YouTube.

It's all an evil conspiracy on behalf of drug companies and doctors to save lives.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
11:45 AM on 09/28/2011
Another poster got me thinking about the healthcare costs associated with adverse events from the HPV vaccination so I ran some numbers and would like to know how we will pay for these adverse events should this vaccination become mandatory?

US Population 2010 308,745,538
25% under 20 25%
Under 20 population 77,186,385
CDC mandated vaccination rate assume 80%
HPV vaccinated population 61,749,108
Side effect % from HPV vaccination 3%
Total population injured 1,852,473
Life time cost of care from HPV vaccination $1,000,000
Total estimated cost from HPV vaccination injury $1,852,473,228,000
$1.9T
Josephius
No, not microbio, molecular bio and biochemistry!
12:45 PM on 09/28/2011
Don't take this too personally, but your estimates mean nothing to us. Who are you, really? Are you an expert in this field? How much education and professional experience do you have?

With that, instead of making up your own numbers,which I doubt a single person reading this thread would agree with, how about citing some actual figures, some real calculations?

In the meantime, here's a calculation for you:

Deaths from cervical cancer in 2011: 4,000
Cost of the preventable loss of life, our mothers, daughters, sisters, and friends: priceless.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
02:36 PM on 09/28/2011
The deaths from cervical cancer ARE preventable without the vaccination. We just need for women - all women - to have access to healthcare. What numbers am I making up? The US population? The fact that 25% of that population is below the age of 20? The reason one discloses how they calculate the numbers is so that you can challenge them. I documented my assumptions but all you do is state "but your estimates mean nothing to us". Are you now speaking for big pharma? Who are you, really?
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
02:43 PM on 09/28/2011
Oh by the way, I'm a former Federal auditor with the Inspector General's office with the Department of Human Services. That means that the FDA, the CDC, the NIH and Medicare, SS and Medicaid all fell under our umbrella for the most part, with subpoena powers. I don't work anymore though due to illness.
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
08:32 PM on 09/28/2011
Recalculation:

HPV doses given: 35 million
Side effects: 18,727 (dizziness, arm pain etc)
Serious side effects needing assesment in hospital: 1,498 (collapse etc)
Deaths within 1 year of vaccination: 68 (no causality implied)
Deaths confirmed due to HPV vaccine: None definite as yet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmCeWwNKr6FmdDVWSW5OUEhZTHpieVRESDR6bVpHMFE&hl=en_GB#gid=3
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Marsha McClelland
06:48 PM on 09/27/2011
Will you look at that. The whole gang's here trying to fool people in hope to dupe enough in order to continue the cover up. With all the attention drawn to the HPV vaccine they have stepped up their activities immensely. Not just here but everywhere.

There's a couple new voices of deception joining the regulars & I see their games the same. It's called deceive & distract. Same talking points & rhetoric being parroted. And same old tells where they attack us & our sources instead of presenting back up to their denial. Any links they send can be proven fraud as has been done many times before.

I have that proof all standing by for when they present the fraud they pretend science.

The real science is simple math & it's the myriads of victims through time.

Kudos to Huffingtonpost for not censoring this conversation. No one can say they discriminate as both sides are being heard, no holds barred.

Please scroll back to, 09:19 PM on 9/25/2011, where I posted the Vaers report of the 103 deaths & all the other statistics & facts those who represent vested interests are trying to play down. When, if fact, the reverse applies.

There's some serious information in this post so please see it as well as the other two you will notice close by.
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
05:54 AM on 09/28/2011
Information about VAERS reported deaths:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/hpv/gardasil.html
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
06:03 AM on 09/28/2011
35 million doses. 103 deaths (with no indication of a relation).

How many of a sample of 35 million people die every day? About 1400.

How many of 35 million women unvaccinated will die young from preventable cervical cancer? About 35,000.

Just simple numbers.

If you want to give your daughter a one-in-a-thousand chance lottery ticket to an early, painful death and a one-in-two-hundred chance lottery ticket to painful, invasive treatment, then don't get the HPV vaccination.
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Marsha McClelland
09:19 PM on 10/04/2011
Those 35 million doses are, many, still on shelves & facts are facts as I posted the Vaers report of death & injury which does not include the, many, more who slipped through the cracks. And many horrors, like cancer, are in the future for who knows how many who already took the shots. Truth is truth so look for yourself.

Please scroll back to, 09:19 PM on 9/25/2011, where I posted the Vaers report of the 103 deaths & all the other statistics & facts those who represent vested interests are trying to play down. When, if fact, the reverse applies.
Josephius
No, not microbio, molecular bio and biochemistry!
12:18 PM on 09/27/2011
Just say "NO!" to the HPV vaccine because STDs are cool! Not only the deaths and disability from cancer, but the infertility and warts as well.

Utilize the time-test religious approach: ignore it and deny it, and it will just magically go away on it's own. Just expect that no one will have sex and this is a non-issue! The perfect solution is right before our eyes.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
03:16 PM on 09/27/2011
'Utilize the time-test religious approach: ignore it and deny it, and it will just magically go away on it's own.'

You're leaving out the fun part. Can't we sacrifice someone to something? Oh, never mind, we are: we are sacrificing men and women to the god Antivaxxus.
Josephius
No, not microbio, molecular bio and biochemistry!
06:58 PM on 09/27/2011
Oooo! boom! Snap!

Don't forgettheirother god, Vitaminadonis.
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
05:56 AM on 09/28/2011
I think there is a dichotomy of thinking here. Some would like to pretend their daughters will stay celibate forever, some want to host HPV parties because don't ya know infections are harmless, like.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
11:01 PM on 09/27/2011
Or get the taxpayers to pay for it because most Americans are too poor to afford it or too sick from all the other 70+ vaccinations our wonderful CDC encourages us to take.

Perhaps they could start a program like breast cancer awareness? Nah the trillion dollar cancer machine won't give up those profits.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
06:05 AM on 09/28/2011
And where will the poor that couldn't afford the vaccine turn up in twenty years, with preventable and ever-so-expensive-to-treat cervical cancers? The ER. On your dime.

Preventative healthcare - saving money for hundreds of years.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
05:57 AM on 09/27/2011
Why do low-information voters want their daughters to die? Do they really not love their children?
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NotEve
Facts are of no use against the irrational
11:04 PM on 09/26/2011
Just to to set the record straight regarding article's lazy and misleading statement: "...and linked to some deaths."

This statement is referring to VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) reports regarding HPV vaccination.

Those who found this statement scary need to understand that "VAERS data cannot be used to prove a causal association between [a] vaccine and [an] adverse event. The only association between the adverse event and vaccination is temporal, meaning that the adverse event occurred sometime after vaccination. Therefore, the adverse event may be coincidental or it may have been caused by vaccination, however we cannot make any conclusions that the events reported to VAERS were caused by the vaccine." [1]

Furthermore, of all the HPV vaccinations administered there have been only 32 confirmed/verified VAERS reports of death and of those "32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination." [2]

So lets all take a deep breath, climb down from the walls, and take a moment to reflect on the irresponsibility of science-illiterate journalists that make misleading generalizations that contribute to mass-hysteria and conspiracy theories.


[1,2] http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/hpv/gardasil.html
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
05:53 AM on 09/27/2011
Correct.

If 35 million people of all ages got vaccinated, about 2500 would die within 48 hours.
For young people, that's going to be less. VAERS reports 32, maybe rather fewer than you'd expect.

More importantly, because of those 35 million vaccinations, about 35,000 women will get to
live a longer life, instead of dying from preventable forms of cervical cancer.
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Dyson
debunking pseudoscience, one fallacy at a time.
12:14 PM on 09/27/2011
And some of the VAERS gardasil data report deaths *months* after injection - they are not confined to the first few days.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
11:04 PM on 09/27/2011
Now that there is a lot of profits. I'll bet pharma even builds it into their forecasting models. You should probably get that in an Excel spreadsheet and project it out. Then send it to your paymaster.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
01:05 PM on 09/27/2011
My uncle died having sex with his lover. Sex was not the cause of death.
Josephius
No, not microbio, molecular bio and biochemistry!
04:26 PM on 09/26/2011
Hmmm. This seems to hit some important points: affluent families that get their "information" from the internet. Go figure!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44673129/ns/local_news-san_diego_ca/#.ToDfZOyGevc
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
02:41 PM on 09/26/2011
Does anyone know if there is an organized effort to stop the CDC from issuing this recommendation?
Josephius
No, not microbio, molecular bio and biochemistry!
03:43 PM on 09/26/2011
Yes, it's called the HuffPo comments section on vaccine-related issues.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
09:44 PM on 09/26/2011
You mean HuffPharma?
EvolveorPerish
R E anna what have you done?
10:32 PM on 09/26/2011
Which you contribute information to quite regularly.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
05:55 AM on 09/27/2011
There is: innumerate whackjobs united to promote cancer.
Just send the money to Michele Bachmann.
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FaceTheTruth00
I'm a girl.
11:57 PM on 09/25/2011
Do whatever you wanna do and reap the consequences.

I can't say that I thought I'd ever see the day where there are people who shout down a vaccine that can prevent a kind of cancer.

Let me tell you. My grandpa lived a good, healthy life. Never did drugs, never smoked a single cigarette, rarely drank and led an active lifestyle. At age 84, he was diagnosed with multiple brain tumors. They started as a mass in his lungs -- due to decades of working in a steel mill -- and traveled to his brain.

He was diagnosed in April of 2004 and died 5 months later. It was very traumatic. Not just the physical effects, but watching him forget everyone and everything. Like Alzheimers would do to you; but in overdrive.

Now, would that they had developed a vaccine that could prevent 90% brain cancer. But they haven't.

Cancer is an awful, horrible disease. Why anyone would not take preventative measures if they could, I can't understand.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
12:28 AM on 09/26/2011
Until you've been poisoned by big pharma's lust for profits you have no idea what it is like. The HPV vaccination does not prevent cancer, regular PAP screenings do and upon discovery of pre-cancerous cells the removal of those cells. You do not need a nuclear bomb to kill a fly and this is what this vaccination does it kills the host too often and results in total disability too often as well. I have a young daughter and my entire family on both sides is high risk. We know what we need to do to stay safe and it doesn't involve this useless toxic vaccination.
02:10 AM on 09/26/2011
And how do they remove those cells, exactly? Two ways actually- 1) they freeze them off with liquid nitrogen 2) they burn them off using electrocautery. Of course, if they don't catch it quick enough and cervical cancer develops then they perform a hysterectomy and remove the cervix, uterus, ovaries et. cetera and follow up with chemotherapy. Unfortunately 4,000 women die each year in the US from cervical cancer that was not caught in time.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
04:06 AM on 09/26/2011
Not much evidence in the above post that the conceptual ducks are in a row.
03:56 PM on 09/26/2011
You make the mistake of believing that the HPV vaccine prevents cancer. It doesn't and is in my opinion far more likely to cause cancer than to prevent it. HPV vaccination is like all other vaccinations purely a money-making racket and a means of promoting ill-health for the benefit of the medical-pharmaceutical establishment.
04:42 PM on 09/26/2011
Well it has been proven to prevent cancer from four strains of HPV (or two depending on which vaccine you take). No evidence has ever shown that it causes cancer. You may guess that it causes cancer; I prefer to go by clinical trial results. At the very least you should have a reasonable hypothesis to support your argument and not just cry that it benefits the pharmaceutical industry.

Americans spend over $34 billion on alternative medicine a year. That's a lot of profit for pills that are cheap to produce and services that require little education or training. People bitch about big pharma, meanwhile the hero of Huffington- Dr. Joe Mercola lives in a 5k square foot mansion. The new age gurus do it for profit as well, only they sell sugar pills and don't have to learn much to get rich off of suckers.
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Marsha McClelland
09:05 PM on 09/25/2011
I see the deception has been trying to dupe people on this monster shot as the regulars are here pushing vaccines on the unsuspecting, as usual.

"NZ toddler accidentally injected with Gardasil now fighting rare form of leukemia"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/national/4867475/Wrongly-injected-toddler-fights-leukaemia

Now what does this tell us, you who say they are so safe?
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Marsha McClelland
09:19 PM on 09/25/2011
Here are the latest adverse events due to the HPV vaccine.

These statistics are shocking & unacceptable due to this being such a new drug on the market which was rushed & never had time to study.

http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php

Disabled = 760 children
Deaths = 103
Did Not Recover = 4,616
Abnormal Pap Smear = 387
Cervical Dysplasia = 144
Cervical Cancer = 41
Life Threatening = 440
Emergency Room Visit = 8,926
Hopitalized = 23,388
Ext. Hospital Stay = 199
Adverse Events = 23,338

This drug is still in the experimental stage & it's estimated these reports to Vaers are actually, only, 10%. Some estimates state it's closer to 1% with all the doctors & parents not reporting.

Many don't realize Acid Reflux, Acne, ALS, Alzheimer's, Arthritis, ASD, Asthma, Autism, Cancer, Cardiac Disease, Celiac Disease, Central Auditory Processing Disorder,
Cerebral Palsy, Crohn’s, Depression, Early puberty, Eczema, Environmental Allergies, Eosinophilic Esophagitis, Epilepsy, Food Allergies, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, IDDM,
Immune (or idiopathic) thrombocytopenia purpura, Infant Mortality, Lupus Erythematosus, Lyme, Mitochondrial Dysfunction, MS, childhood & adult, Obesity, Renal Disease,
Rheumatism, Sensory Integration Disorder, Seizures, Sudden Infant Death, Thyroid conditions, Tics, Tourette, Ulcerative Colitis, etcetera, are actually, many times are vaccine damage.

So much toll has been taken & no one knows where these HPV vaccine experiments will lead in the lives of so many unfortunate guinea pigs & their, unsuspecting, parents later in life, up their roads.
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Marsha McClelland
09:50 PM on 09/25/2011
So much toll has been taken already & no one knows where these HPV vaccine experiments will lead in the lives of so many unfortunate guinea pigs & their, unsuspecting, parents later in life, up their roads.

As for other vaccines, some don't realize the following are, actually many times, vaccine damage;

Acid Reflux, Acne, ALS, Alzheimer's, Arthritis, ASD, Asthma, Autism, Cancer, Cardiac Disease, Celiac Disease, Central Auditory Processing Disorder, Cerebral Palsy, Crohn’s, Depression, Early puberty, Eczema, Environmental Allergies, Eosinophilic Esophagitis, Epilepsy, Food Allergies, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, IDDM, Immune (or idiopathic) thrombocytopenia purpura, Infant Mortality, Lupus Erythematosus, Lyme, Mitochondrial Dysfunction, MS, childhood & adult, Obesity, Renal Disease, Rheumatism, Sensory Integration Disorder, Seizures, Sudden Infant Death, Thyroid conditions, Tics, Tourette, Ulcerative Colitis, etcetera.
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03:24 AM on 09/26/2011
Your information is incorrect. To date there have been 32 confirmed d eaths that occurred post-vaccination with Gardasil and 36 reported d eaths that could not be confirmed due to incomplete information given (no patient name, doctor's name, reporter's name or any contact info). I wouldn't put it past the anti-vax crowd to abuse the VAERS in support of their agenda. In the 32 confirmed d eaths there has been no confirmation of the vaccine as the cause, though it is possible.

It is possible that only 1% of incidents of vaccine reaction get reported, but its a safe bet that number is close to 100% if it resulted in hospitalization or d eath. I've seen VAERS data for octogenarians with renal failure and cancer reported because they d ied a few days after inoculation for influenza.

Hundreds of millions of people d ied in the 20th century alone due to diseases that are now rare or eradicated thanks to vaccination. In the 18th and 19th century approximately 150,000 d ied of yellow fever. 21,000 people in the United States were paralyzed by Polio in 1952 (not sure if that was up until 52 or in 1952 alone). In the 1920's diphtheria k illed 13k-15k each year in the US.
http://www.path.org/files/VAC_vacc_history_fs.pdf

The reality of infectuous disease makes your numbers seem silly and inconsequential in comparison.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
09:37 PM on 09/25/2011
Marsha, I agree. I think we have to be vigilant in pointing out the pharma shills that frequently post on this site and shine a light on their hypocrisy. Most are paid to promote these vaccinations and smear those that have valid concerns. Big pharma is very powerful now but I see diminishing returns as they have poisoned so many that it has actually affected the tax base; sick people don't pay taxes. Our country truly cannot sustain the mass poisoning of the population any longer. Just like the banks pharma's bubble is about to burst. It is simply unsustainable.
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Marsha McClelland
10:50 PM on 09/25/2011
Hi Sharon. You're so right on all you say. Parents, activists & world citizens are staying vigilant & are fighting back in ways as never before.

Truth concerning the HPV vaccine, as well as others, is breaking out on Michele Bachmann's Face Book page where we just know politicians & media are watching as well as other important people who have power to help us expose & stop the vaccine cover up.

https://www.facebook.com/RepMicheleBachmann?sk=wall&filter=1

You might have to click on "everyone" at the top of her page to see our posts & comments. We've been there for about two weeks, since she let the cat out of the bag exposing Rick Perry trying to mandate the dangerous HPV vaccine, at the presidential debate.

You may want to scroll way back to see all that our people have been letting out of that cat's bag, too.

Those with vested interests who push vaccines are fighting a losing battle & it's showing.

Actually, because of them, we've made a lot of headway as they've helped us make our points, pun intended, by helping truth out. They have given us opportunity to present evidence & call them on their deception, lies & spin they parrot in hope to keep enough people duped in order to continue the barbaric practice of vaccinating that's taken so much toll on so many.
03:54 AM on 09/26/2011
That makes sense- people disagree with you on a discussion forum, ergo they are paid shills infiltrating HP as part of a massive conspiracy.

The vast majority of people in the world know that the medical industry (healthcare providers, pharmaceutical companies, medical researchers) saves many lives. You are part of a fringe group that congregates on the internet to share half cracked ideas and conspiracy theories. No drug company would pay people to shill to the non compos mentis of the Huffington Post. They may bring in a lot of money, but not enough to justify throwing it away on such a useless endeavor.
08:21 PM on 09/25/2011
If a parent of wants their child of either sex to have it, that is their choice. Their private, personal decision.

It should not be mandated. Ever. That is government run amok.
10:24 PM on 09/25/2011
Not when they can spread it to others. Then it becomes a public health problem, and thus a government problem.
EvolveorPerish
R E anna what have you done?
02:04 AM on 09/26/2011
Our gov't should be gov't allowed by the people and for the people and not mandated to the people.

Unwanted pregnancies spread like wildfire too. Perhaps the gov't should put chastity belts on everyone.

Our gov't is policying and policing us into immobility.

Get in line for your injectable microchip, already, the company Applied Digital Solutions is ready to make some money off of people like you. The chip will keep you safe Citizen!

You do realize they are marketing fear to you, right?
05:08 AM on 09/26/2011
It's mandated so that government funds set aside for health care can be used to cover the cost of the vaccine. Where it's mandated parents may "opt out" by signing a statement of opposition to the vaccine.

So unless your problem is with government funded health care, there is no reason for you to complain about mandatory HPV vaccination. Of course, this article is only about recommendation anyway