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Obama Jobs Plan: American Jobs Act Would Make Small Dent In Unemployment Rate

By TOM RAUM   09/24/11 05:37 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- Even if Congress heeds President Barack Obama's demands to "pass this bill right away" and enacts his jobs and tax plan in its entirety, the unemployment rate probably still would hover in nosebleed territory for at least three more years.

Why? Because the 1.9 million new jobs the White House says the bill would produce in 2012 falls short of what it's needed to put the economy back on track to return to pre-recession jobless levels of under 6 percent, from today's rate of 9.1 percent.

That's how deep the jobs hole is. The persistent weakness of the U.S. economy has left 14 million people unemployed and more than 25 million unable to find full-time work.

Economists of all stripes pretty much agree that it will be a long, hard road no matter what Congress does. Right now, the Republicans who run the House and the Democrats who lead the Senate aren't finding much common ground.

Obama estimates his American Jobs Act would lower unemployment by just a single percentage point by next year, to just over 8 percent, heading into the 2012 presidential election.

Burned before by making overly optimistic job-creation predictions, the White House turned to prominent outside economists to crunch the numbers.

The projection of 1.9 million new jobs, a 1 percentage point drop in the unemployment rate and a 2 percentage point increase in the gross domestic product under Obama's plan came from Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody's Analytics.

But Zandi said in an interview his forecast also is based on an assumption that "the president's entire package is passed by the end of the year," a slim prospect given the current divided leadership in Congress, and that there are no other budgetary policy changes.

"I assumed that it would be paid for," Zandi said. "I didn't know when I did that simulation how the president proposed to pay for it."

Since then, Obama has said he would pay for his $447 billion package with permanent income tax increases of about $150 billion a year, mostly on wealthy individuals and corporations, in addition to spending cuts. That's drawn criticism from Republicans, who say any tax increases could further stall the fragile recovery.

Zandi, who has advised both Republican and Democratic lawmakers, said he's still sticking with his forecast, mainly because the stimulus in the plan, including a temporary reduction in Social Security taxes for both employees and employers and infrastructure spending, would come in 2012 and be paid for later.

But there is one feature Obama doesn't emphasize.

Zandi said his job-creation figure only applies to 2012.

"Beginning in 2013, and certainly into 2014, the plan is a drag on the economy because the stimulus starts fading away," he said. "So by 2015, the economy is in the same place as now, as if there were no jobs package."

Also, Zandi said, his forecast does not leave any room for a new recession. If that happens, all bets are off.

"So it's very important to get as many people working as fast as possible," he said. "If we go back into recession, it is going to be very difficult to get out. And it's going to cost taxpayers tremendously."

Job creation has ground to a virtual standstill. The economy produced a scant 20,000 net new jobs in June, 85,000 in July and none in August. Economic output, as measured by the GDP, has been growing this year at an anemic annual rate below 1 percent.

The global economy is showing no signs of strengthening. A divided Federal Reserve is nearly out of ammunition for additional stimulus. And the U.S. is once again facing the possibility of a government shutdown at the end of next week.

The Obama-Zandi target of 1.9 million new jobs next year, or 158,000 a month, is somewhat higher than private analyses that suggest the plan would create 100,000 to 150,000 jobs a month.

Heidi Shierholz, economist for the labor-leaning Economic Policy Institute, calculates it would take job growth of 400,000 every month for three years in a row to get back to the 5 percent jobless rate last seen in December 2007, at the recession's outset.

"To get down to 5 percent in five years, we need around 280,000 jobs every month," she added. "Right now, we're more than two years into the official recovery, and we're still bumping along at extremely low levels."

What if Obama gets none of what he requested? She said failure to renew some current anti-recessionary programs such as extended unemployment insurance and the existing Social Security tax break for employees "will be a big blow" both to the economy and to the employment picture.

More likely, Congress will probably produce a watered-down version.

As long as the GDP grows at an annual rate beneath 2.5 percent, it cannot create enough jobs for new entrants into the workforce, let alone to re-employ those laid off during the downturn, said Martin Regalia, chief economist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the nation's biggest business lobby.

The chamber estimates it will take 20 million jobs over the next decade to get the economy back to pre-recession levels. It has its own jobs plan, which includes increased trade, greater oil drilling, quicker road and bridge construction and temporary corporate tax breaks.

"If you want to go from 9.1 percent down to 5.5 or 6 percent unemployment, you're going to have to grow roughly at 4.5 percent (GDP) for three years," Regalia said. "I don't see that in the forecast."

In the first six months of this year, the GDP grew at a scant 0.7 percent rate. Private forecasters see it growing about 2 percent in the final six months of 2011, about 2.5 percent throughout 2012, and increasing to about 3.2 percent in 2013.

Obama is quick to acknowledge a rocky road ahead.

"For a decade now, incomes and wages have flat-lined for the American people – for ordinary Americans, for working families," he says. "They are working harder, making less, with higher expenses. And that's been going on for a long, long time."

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WASHINGTON -- Even if Congress heeds President Barack Obama's demands to "pass this bill right away" and enacts his jobs and tax plan in its entirety, the unemployment rate probably still would hover ...
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09:14 PM on 10/18/2011
Again and Again and yet Againnnn.....this flocking GOP Congress will not budge on raising taxes on the rich. Any excuse they can think of will be good enough reason for them to stonewall their nemesis. It's as though they've made a pact with the Devil, and to break it will be at their peril. The symbiosis between the 1% and government is akin to a disease - a virus that has infected the rest of the nation and has left its victims on their own failing life support systems. Organizers of OWS are mobilizing and will begin targeting members of Congress with a list of reforms and demands at the first annual OWS Convention on July 4th in Philadelphia. An event not to be missed if you want to start the change we all seek. We all have voices here people. Let the halls of this Congress echo from them!!!
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
10:22 PM on 09/26/2011
there are less jobs today according to government statistics then when bush left office....we wasted a lot of money.
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04:25 PM on 09/26/2011
Moodies opinion, yea right,, do we really trust what they have to say, now that S+P, are facing legal action , how much is it costing moodies to stay out of the legal actions, I bet they have or will make a giant campaign donation, to guess who.
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
04:05 PM on 09/26/2011
It may do a little good, but I think the emphasis is more on 'little' than good. And that's assuming he gets everything he wants from Congress-which will never happen. We all know that as long as the economy continues to drag along the republicns have a reasonable chance of taking the white house in 2012.
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04:15 PM on 09/26/2011
Not likely, because Obama's popularity ratings are low, but the congressional republicans are a lot lower, So, Obama, with his amazing political skills will define this situation clearly to the american people, Once the people know all the reasoning behind the "FAKE RECESSION" THEY WILL VOTE ACCORDINGLY!!! OBAMA 2012!! AND BEYOND!!! ALONG WITH VOTING OUT THE TEA PARTY, WE WILL RETAIN THE SMARTEST PRESIDENT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST DECADE!!
09:20 AM on 09/28/2011
ride on
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visitrubyfalls
02:14 PM on 09/26/2011
I don't believe this job bill will create 1.9 million jobs, anymore than I believe Obama is Superman/Flash/Captain Hook/Bugs Bunny and Tigger all rolled up into one. $38.8 Billion was spent on green jobs the last few years, and only 3,500 jobs were created! And if the shovel ready jobs were not so quote "shovel ready haha" the first time, why should I trust wasting half a trillion more? ABCnews had a report stating most of the money from this new Job Act Bill will go to China anyways. Because far too much of the other jobs stimulus went to China. Even though ABC found American companies that said, they could have handled the work themselves.
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GHENT007
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05:31 PM on 09/26/2011
Most of that money hasn't even been spent yet, so what are you crying about, when the majority of the money in still in the bank, I wouldn't worry to much about that money It will be spent, Americans have a clear view of the "job creators" solution, stall the and the let middle -class and the unemployed suffer until they get a shot @ the BIG SEAT!! AND IF WE CAN'T HAVE THE WHITE HOUSE, WERE GONNA TAKE OUR BALL AND GO HOME, "REPUBLICANS" SPOILED KIDS AT THE PLAYGROUND OF AMERICAN LIFE!!!
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Southern Cali Native84
Waitin' 4 the race-istG.O.Pgeneration 2d+i+e off
02:03 PM on 09/26/2011
A small dent is better than no dent! We have to start somewhere...the republicans sure haven't taken initiative in creating jobs after getting their tax cuts.
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KenGirard
"American" is my religion. I have faith in it.
05:49 PM on 09/26/2011
Hey now, Rommey is remodeling his $8million dollar home. Perry got a lot of people hired using Fed stimulas money, and a bunch more jobs in fast food. Palin has a plan of hiring the unemployed to sell her tshirts, books, bumperstickers, salt&pepper shakers, etc. Cain thinks we need more pizza delivery drivers. That poor Rep struggling to feed his family on $400k thinks we need to work at a Subway he owns, so we can make enough to eat there.
See, they have plans.
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LifeWitness
Love your Country but hate your Countrymen?
11:47 AM on 09/26/2011
If Citibank was doing business out of a crumbling old building, they would see the need to invest in it. It's only because our Nation's infrastructure is shared with others that conservatives object to maintaining it. It feels like 'socialism' to them.
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BBackSoon
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09:50 AM on 09/26/2011
So we need the Government to spend even more?

I agree.
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09:33 AM on 09/26/2011
Democratic Business Men and Women are in Control of $667 Billion in CASH.

It is time for these Patriotic Democrats to put fellow Democrats back to work !

Repaint, Repair, Rebuild and Renovate Your Businesses and Put Democrats and Future Democrats Back To Work Now !

Spend a few Hundred Billion and Lift Fellow Democrats Out of This Stagnant Republican Induced Economy and You will gain Millions of New and Loyal Customers that will keep your businesses growing and prospering !

Damn the Republicans ..... Full Steam Ahead !

Howard Scott Pearlman
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SirSlappy
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09:07 PM on 09/25/2011
Obama lovess small dents. He has no tools left in his tool box to weild agaisn the GOP.
Each week his rating will take a small dent... until we primary his sorry a$s, and eject him from Washington; in favor of an actual Democrat (should such an animal exist).
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09:51 PM on 09/25/2011
right now taxes are at the lowest rate in 50 years, the last real successful economic expansion was under Bill Clinton, now Obama wants to put the rates back to the Clinton era, 22 million new jobs and the largest economic expansion in american history, Reagan also had a economic expansion as well, but in the process he tripled the National Debt, So the Reagan expansion worked, but he had to raise taxes 11 times to make it work, If people know the facts before they say anything it would make life a lot easier, just to wish the president to lose the election wont make it so, and the American People are not stupid, So for the rich to complain about taking the tax rate back to the time of great prosperity is just plain stupidity, they won't do it because it would make the president an economic superstar, and they wouldn't stand a chance at the White House, So therefore, Its clear they would rather leave the economy in the dumpster as to blame the president, but this plan will backfire, in 2012 and Obama will be re-elected easily.
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SirSlappy
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11:11 PM on 09/25/2011
If you're correct, than you have nothing to worry about.

Also if you're correct, Obama will be placed back into his current position of |mpotence; in which he has no further tools or ideas to wield against the GOP.
4 years of that will be terrifc for the nation.
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pab08
Partisan agendas can't compete with objective fact
10:49 PM on 09/25/2011
An "actual Democrat" could not possibly win a general election in this country.
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SirSlappy
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11:11 PM on 09/25/2011
Step aside and leave politics to those with spines, not excuses.
08:47 PM on 09/25/2011
approve this E__ ___T
08:47 PM on 09/25/2011
huff post you are against free speech when it suits you.
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SirSlappy
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09:07 PM on 09/25/2011
which is funny because Fox news is so open-minded abot who posts.
F4flyr
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02:10 PM on 09/26/2011
slap...I think they have a black list at Fox...automatically kicks in when it sees my s/n...haven't been able to post there since I laid out the cost of BANANA REPUBLICan programs, starting with that addled old fool Reagan.
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Karelh
When fact is fiction and TV reality
06:28 PM on 09/25/2011
Whether or not congress passes it or not, our are problems run very deep and this program will not even begin to solve any of them. I was driving around the other day and noticed a lot of road work and construction going on. What I also noticed, is that most of the workers looked to be of Latin American descent. Now I have no problem with legalized foreign folks working. But something tells me that most of these folks where probably not legal. So, while we may poor money into infrastructure projects, unless we address the illegals working than we are not going to fundimentally put Americans back to work.

But what I find so interesting is while folks on the right complain about illegal immigration. When in power, they do very little to address it...why, because the powers that be, want the illegal workforce here to depress wages and allow for higher profit margins. Just follow the money to see what nothing ever changes.
08:51 AM on 09/26/2011
So that's why you geedy libs are running all over Walmart!! You care about wages! Especially for Chinese workers? Talk about clueless hypocrits.
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BBackSoon
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09:52 AM on 09/26/2011
What a stupid comment.
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BBackSoon
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09:53 AM on 09/26/2011
I am in Illinois and the construction I see don't look like they are staffed by Latinos. But then again this is a union state.
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Karelh
When fact is fiction and TV reality
11:54 PM on 09/27/2011
I'm in Northern CA, do the demographics are a bit different here. The main point is that if we fund work, the money needs to go to citizens or at least folks who are here legally and not under the radar and getting paid under the table or artificially driving down wages so the upper mgt get's to milk projects for excess profits.
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MissingAmerica
04:57 PM on 09/25/2011
Someone got the right idea. A group of atheists has created a care service for the pets left after their owners are caught up in the Rapture! I had to read it twice, and it's truly a real business. Amazingly, to show the mindset of the fundamentalists, they're doing a thriving business! So if you think you're going to meet your maker in that one instance where all that remains here are your jockeys, give those guys a call. When you're gone, they'll pick up your pet and give it a good home. Of course, there's a charge if you have more than one! Why didn't I think of that?
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
03:49 PM on 09/25/2011
Any jobs plan submitted by Obama is DOA......... unless there is excessive profit in it for the GOP supporters............
09:28 PM on 09/25/2011
i guess it like when the congress sends bills to the senate and reid says it doa and the president will veto it ... sound familiar friend
11:53 AM on 09/26/2011
Of course it was DOA. Why would Republicans insist on the funds be paid for? This is for our American brothers and sisters disaster relief. Did your previous President pay for anything before he enacted it? No. Did he pay for the Medicare Prescription program, again he enacted? No. Did he pay for the illegal Irag war before he invaded a country that he wanted to invade since the day he took office? No. But now because there is a different boss in the house, that is Black, we must pay for everything before we can help other Americans? You people call yourself American Patriots, you disgust me!!
08:52 AM on 09/26/2011
Obama plan? You mean the union pandering at the expense of seniors scam?
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
09:55 AM on 09/26/2011
As opposed to the Republican plans that are Corprate pandering at the expense of seniors scam?