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State Department Official Accuses Russia And China Of Seeking Greater Internet Control

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First Posted: 09/28/11 09:31 AM ET Updated: 11/27/11 05:12 AM ET

A top State Department official on Tuesday accused China and Russia of abandoning international talks on cybersecurity and seeking United Nations approval to assert greater control over the Internet in their countries.

Michele Markoff, the state department’s senior policy adviser on cyber affairs, said 15 countries -- including the United States, Russia and China -- agreed last year to further discuss how countries address the growing use of information technology. But earlier this month, China and Russia -- along with Tajikistan and Uzbekistan -- issued their own proposal to the U.N. Secretary General that included language aimed at restricting Internet freedom, which the United States opposes, Markoff said.

The proposal, called the International Code of Conduct for Information Security, asks countries to help prevent technology that “undermines other nations’ political, economic and social stability.” Foreign policy experts say the language likely refers to the use of social media, which played an integral role during the recent Arab uprisings and in China on a daily basis.

Speaking at a cybersecurity forum in Washington, Markoff said the proposal from Russia and China was issued “quite unexpectedly” and was “an effort to walk back from that small patch of common ground” reached last year.

“At their heart, they seek to justify the establishment of sovereign government control over Internet resources and over freedom of expression in order to maintain the security of their state," Markoff said.

The United States has long held different views than Russia and China on safeguarding the Internet. Their diplomats even use different language. The United States prefers to use the term “cybersecurity,” which it defines as securing computer networks, regardless of the data they hold, while promoting the free flow of information on the Internet. Russia and China, on the other hand, use the term “information security,” which they broadly define as encompassing any Internet content that could destabilize government, foreign policy experts say.

Last year, the United States felt like it had found a "valuable consensus" with China and Russia on cybersecurity that "pointed in a fruitful direction for further collaboration," Markoff said. But after the recent U.N. proposal, that optimism appears to have dimmed.

“My personal interpretation of what the Russians and Chinese are doing, given that we had some good bilateral conversations going on, is that they don’t care what we think,” Markoff said Tuesday during the Billington Cybersecurity Summit.

The draft from Russia and China comes as the Obama administration is seeking international cooperation on cybersecurity. In May, the administration proposed establishing international computer security standards to prevent cybertheft and ensure Internet freedom, with penalties for countries that did not meet those standards.

“China believes information and Internet security is a common challenge facing all countries, thus it can only be effectively coped with through international cooperation,” foreign ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu was quoted as saying after the U.N. proposal was issued earlier this month.

While China and Russia appear to be seeking greater Internet control, the Obama administration has been making efforts to foster greater Internet freedom abroad, said Adam Segal, a senior fellow for counterterrorism and national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. In one example, the State Department is financing research to create an “Internet in a suitcase” that would allow stealth wireless communications by dissidents living under repressive governments seeking to silence them, The New York Times reported in June.

In a blog post on the website for the Council on Foreign Relations, Segal said the proposal from Russia and China attempts to subtly criticize the Obama administration for its policy of using "all necessary means – diplomatic, informational, military and economic” – to defend itself in cyberspace. The proposal by Russia and China calls for countries to “resolve conflicts through peaceful means, without military force or the threat of military force,” he wrote.

Jason Healey, director of the Cyber Statecraft Initiative at the Atlantic Council, said the proposal was also notable for what it did not mention, leaving out that nations should control patriotic hackers or pledge to uphold the laws of armed conflict in cyberspace, which the United States and Britain have done, but Russia and China have not.

He said it remains unclear whether the document was intended to be the next step in a serious international dialogue or just an effort to score diplomatic points before countries meet for an international cybersecurity summit in Britain in November.

“Unfortunately, this may just be a stick to beat the West with and throw the conference off track,” Healey wrote in a blog on the Atlantic Council’s website.

The United States, Russia and China have all been accused of engaging in cyberattacks against other countries. In 2007, Estonia blamed Russia for launching cyberattacks against the country's websites. Google has accused China of hacking into the Gmail accounts of senior U.S. officials. Iran has blamed the United States, along with Israel, for creating a cyberweapon called Stuxnet that damaged Iran's nuclear program.

Russia and China have denied involvement in state-sponsored hacking. In May, Deputy Defense Secretary William Lynn did not confirm or deny American involvement in Stuxnet.

Segal wrote it will take “some serious diplomatic jujitsu” to convince China to rein in their hackers without the United States making a similar promise to subdue their own.

“In short," he wrote, "the U.S. and China are still a long way away from agreeing on acceptable behavior in cyberspace."

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07:18 PM on 09/28/2011
Irresponsibility is not freedom.

September sees the launch of the .XXX domain by the ICM Registry. They even charge a fee if you do not want your trademark or domain name to be used for the purpose (SUNRISE B).

It is not only proper, but absolutely necessary for every nation to control the destiny of their own internet assets, and screen out harmful content.
09:29 PM on 09/28/2011
Chinese stooge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6SacH3zss

肏你祖宗十八代
05:02 PM on 10/01/2011
Mods: WHY is it OK to use this extremely foul language on the site?, as Lacedaemonian does?
09:29 PM on 09/28/2011
http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=wx6SacH3z­ss

肏你祖宗十八代
06:53 PM on 09/28/2011
Is this something I look up on a computer or a file cabinet? Jimbob
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jflorish
01:05 PM on 09/28/2011
The U.S. needs a secure internet for military and banks. Its ridiculous trying to fight a losing battle with continuous hacks from china and russia trying to steal .....
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hypnotoad72
Freedom = real democracy = living wages
01:02 PM on 09/28/2011
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/does-microsofts-sharing-of-source-code-with-china-and-russia-pose-a-security-risk/6789

"It's just business."  No harm could possibly happen because they all know how to regulate themselves and are better than government interference by default?
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dino213aa
12:42 PM on 09/28/2011
Good luck commies! you can't keep the interwebs down!
12:23 PM on 09/28/2011
“China believes information and Internet security is a common challenge facing all countries, thus it can only be effectively coped with through international cooperation,”
Translation: " China believes that any information that allows people to think differently than the party is dangerous. China wants to stop dissident groups outside of China from feeding information to our citizens that might incite independent thought, and disagreements with THE PARTY"
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DAE
12:05 PM on 09/28/2011
Our government has a long history of waging disinformation campaigns to politically destabilize "regimes" that we find distasteful to our interests. I can see how other countries might be suspicious of our calls for internet freedom and see them as a subterfuge to legitimize further attempts to undermine governments we are competing with.
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flossophy
the unfamous anti-establishment classical liberal
12:17 PM on 09/28/2011
You don't find Russia's and China's repressive regimes distasteful to the interests of humanity?
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DAE
12:31 PM on 09/28/2011
And I ask in return, you don't find the interventionist, special renditioning, Abu Ghraib/Gitmo torturing US regime distastefu­l to the interests of humanity?
07:20 PM on 09/28/2011
Try posting a webpage with a wikileaks link, and see that ton of bricks coming down upon you.
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Captai
Get out while you still can!!
11:39 AM on 09/28/2011
Yet another thing that DUHmerica is second best at.
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dread
11:07 AM on 09/28/2011
The US state department knows all about internet monitoring.
07:23 PM on 09/28/2011
America was and IS the grand daddy of data gathering for decades (ECHELON, CARNIVORE, MAGIC LANTERN, INFRAGARD, etc., all of which involve taking the info of others without their consent).

Today, no internet operator may operate in the U.S. without "voluntarily" providing a backdoor entry to the government, to all user data, all without a subpoena.
10:45 AM on 09/28/2011
Yes, and? As internet users get more savvy, the controllers also have to step up their efforts. And China doesn't support hackers, it only has a huge population of hackers because 1. China has a lot of people 2. Young Chinese are computer savvy
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flossophy
the unfamous anti-establishment classical liberal
10:56 AM on 09/28/2011
Do you think the communist party will be able to maintain control of China for the foreseeable future?
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Sacchinftw
Isn't it sad...?
11:09 AM on 09/28/2011
The communist party maintains a pretty high level of approval from the people and quite quickly puts down all dissension so most eagerly buy into the propaganda. Barring a cataclysmic natural disasters in a high population area, the controlled media will manage to keep the people ignorant.
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Sacchinftw
Isn't it sad...?
11:11 AM on 09/28/2011
Nevermind that the recent largely publicized hacking attempts came from military sanctioned, educational institutions in China, right?
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Hugatreetoday
Do or do not, there is no try.
10:42 AM on 09/28/2011
Is this a really old stock photo or what? lol
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JustinP213
I dislike all political parties.
10:33 AM on 09/28/2011
Of course, since they're two totalitarian nations. Makes sense.
10:32 AM on 09/28/2011
In Russia, the internet surfs you!
10:24 AM on 09/28/2011
Then end free trade. This is simple folks. We know communist China is at war with us so then why are we still trading with them?! The communist have infiltrated the two US political parties and now own them.
10:43 AM on 09/28/2011
Communist China? In what universe are you still living in?
China is a capitalist country, just like US.
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flossophy
the unfamous anti-establishment classical liberal
10:58 AM on 09/28/2011
True, the Chinese communists are more committed to capitalism than we are at the moment... But China's model more closely resembles the fas_c!st models of Europe in the 20th century.
12:32 PM on 09/28/2011
I think you have totally confused Government with the Economic system.
CHina is still run by a dictatorial communist party, which dominates all politics with a "1-party" doctrine. There is no political freedom, no individual rights, and no individual thought in politics. It is still an evil communistic government, which Western governments have chosen to ignore.
However, it does support the idea of capitalism.. ie.. making money, dominating industries, exporting to the world, etc. The model is quite different though - they are much more command oriented than free market oriented like The United States and Europe. Ultimately this will be China's downfall. Currently, they are enjoying the freedom to cheat in trade - currency manipulation, market protections, and theft of patents and intellectual property on a massive scale and we have not sought to protect ourselves. These things take time, but people are catching on. Soon.. when the scale shifts and China is no longer allowed to cheat to have a huge advantage, the true strengths of a democracy and free market will dominate the weaknesses of a command and control communistic government. it may not seem like it now... but I would bet money that we will come out of this current crises stronger... China will hit a wall and stop growing. It is coming.
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
10:20 AM on 09/28/2011
From Slashdot :

"The global fight among governments over control of the Internet is heating up amid a flurry of documents, the opening of the United Nations' General Assembly (GA) and next week's Internet Governance Forum (IGF). Will the change in Internet governance result in states like China and Russia exerting more control over what is allowed on the Internet? The United States has so far comprehensively outmaneuvered attempts by other governments to seize control of the Internet, helped by the fact that it holds the keys and represents the status quo. But how long will it continue to be able to do so?"