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Super Committee's Cuts Anything But Automatic

First Posted: 09/27/2011 8:34 am Updated: 11/27/2011 4:12 am

WASHINGTON -- The 12-member super committee created to slash the federal deficit is powered by the threat that if it doesn't come up with $1.2 trillion in savings, automatic, across-the-board cuts will be instituted to reach that same goal, with half of those cuts hitting the Pentagon.

Don't believe it.

The supposed across-the-board cuts aren't slated to go into effect until January 1, 2013. Put more simply: They might not ever go into effect.

The automatic cuts -- known as sequestration -- are often discussed in Washington as if they're certain, an inevitability that Congress won't be able to prevent. But on the same day those cuts would go into effect, the Bush tax rates, which President Obama extended for two years, are set to expire, leading to an "automatic" tax hike that is treated in Washington as anything but inevitable. (That the two coming policy changes are approached so differently -- cuts are expected; expiring tax breaks for the wealthy are brushed aside -- is a window into Washington's priorities.)

A host of other tax cuts and credits will expire on the same day, including the alternative minimum tax, ethanol tax credits, renewable energy credits and others important to businesses, the wealthy and the middle class.

A lame duck Congress would have two months after the 2012 election to stave off the expiration of both that tax policy and the super committee's "automatic" cuts.

The most likely scenario: The super committee locks up along partisan lines and, after the 2012 election, bipartisan negotiators deal with the tax cuts and the super committee's sequestration cuts, along with a basket of other expiring provisions, in one set of negotiations. Democrats will be pressured by the coming sequestration, while Republicans will be motivated by the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. And all of their negotiations will take place in a political and economic climate impossible to predict today.

"All of this at some point comes together," said Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) of the Bush tax cuts and the sequestration. "One thing about this place, the paces just keep repeating themselves."

While many have portrayed the super committee as having some sort of automatic axe, other observers haven't bought the idea. Stan Collender, a Democratic budget expert and consultant to Wall Street and Washington lobbyists, saw through it quickly, writing a report for Qorvis Communications downplaying the likelihood of the automatic cuts.

"There is a high probability that the super committee won't be able to agree on a deficit reduction deal and that the across-the-board spending cuts that are supposed to be triggered if that happens will NOT go into effect as scheduled in 2013," he wrote. "Federal budget agreements have seldom, if ever, gone the distance. Instead, they have always been changed, waived, ignored or abandoned."

Former Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), who is running again for an Orlando seat, noted in a blog post Monday that the Constitution is not on the side of those pushing for automatic cuts.

"Under Article I, Section 7 of our Constitution, each Congress has the same right as another other Congress to legislate. This includes 'raising Revenue' and 'Appropriation of Money,'" he wrote. "So our 112th Congress can 'pass a Bill' setting the federal deficit for this year and next year, but that's about it. Anything that goes beyond the first week of January, 2013, when the 113th Congress will be sworn in, is subject to change by that Congress, and every subsequent Congress."

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chair of the Senate's tax-writing committee and a member of the super committee, told HuffPost that the panel is looking at the Bush tax cuts as well as other expiring credits.

"The committee is sure talking of those provisions and there are others too, and we are talking about all of them," he said.

Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), whose more than two decades in the Senate have made him witness to his share of negotiations, said that both the Bush taxs cuts and the sequestration cuts will be negotiated as one large piece during the lame duck session. "At that time, at that time," Harkin said. "Not now. At that time."

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), who recently resigned from leadership so he can spend more time on bipartisan legislating and less on partisan messaging, agreed with HuffPost that the automatic cuts were not necessarily automatic.

"That’s a good point," he said. "Congress can always pass a law if it chooses to do that, but the president can veto it, and 40 senators can stop it. So I think while it's technically possible for that to happen, I think there's the fact that 38 senators of both parties signed a letter encouraging the committee to think even bigger. It's a very good sign that something is likely to happen here."

Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), the Senate minority whip and a super committee member, also saw roping the tax cuts and sequestration together as an option.

"I don't think sequestration will take place, for one thing," he said, saying there are "lots of different options, possibilities. Who knows?"

Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) said that the committee should think of the possibility of automatic cuts as motivation, but agreed that they're heavily dependent on Congress.

"The automatic spending cuts take effect not based upon the joint committee; it’s based upon congressional action," he said.

Dealing with the spending cuts and expiring tax cuts together will give Democrats a negotiating advantage, highlighting how tax policy has contributed to budget hole, Democrats said.

"Since those tax cuts and Bush deregulation and the two wars and the bailout to drug and insurance companies in '03/'04 created almost all the deficit, clearly that should be part of the solution," said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).

"Speaking for the Democrats, we want to see a comprehensive approach," said Cardin. "We think the revenue issues need to be on the table. We have been pretty clear about what we think about the Bush-era tax rates for the higher income."

There may also be political will to prevent the automatic cuts from going into effect, if only to save the Pentagon's budget.

"I am very concerned about broad cuts across the board, particularly as it relates the Department of Defense," Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) told HuffPost.

And the cuts already agreed to earlier this year, as part of the bargain that created the super committee, may end up being just as fantastical.

"[T]he approximately $900 billion in spending reductions put in place by the Budget Control Act are far more likely to be projected rather than realized," Collender wrote in his report. "Although the agreement put spending caps in place every year through fiscal 2021, only the $30 billion or so projected for fiscal 2012 -- which will start in about a month on October 1 -- should be considered likely to occur. The presumed spending reductions for fiscal 2013 and beyond will occur after the 2012 presidential and congressional elections and during the time frame when virtually all other federal budget agreements have fallen apart or changed. In all probability, that will happen in this case as well."

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BlairCase
11:49 AM on 11/20/2011
The U.S. government's fiscal year begins on October 1 of the previous calendar year and ends on September 30 of the year with which it is numbered. Federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, are currently operating on the fiscal year 2012 budget. Federal agencies will have to prepare and submit their FY 2013 budgets no later than October 1, 2012, a month before the presidential election. The budgets will have to take projected spending cuts into account.
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jimtodd
Unrepentant child of '60s
01:21 PM on 10/09/2011
This committee is representative of congress, and therefore has no hope of accomplishing anything helpful. There will be some gnashing of teeth and some partisan finger pointing, but it will end in the usual stalemate. It is all political theater, not meant for human consumption.
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
01:19 AM on 09/30/2011
So is it just another window of opportunity for more lobbying?  Is that the bottom line?
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Connor Wisnom
10:07 AM on 09/29/2011
Am i the only one who finds something extremely wrong with our politicians creating a "supercongress" without our approval? why in the world is this even allowed??
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Tom Theodosiades
11:31 PM on 09/28/2011
How long can the Oligarchs kick this can down the road? We'd be fine tomorrow if we just peeled back every disastrous policy the previous admin wrought on our republic, from the tax cuts to the wars. So what's the funkin' holdup? How long can these succubi pretend to work for the people while working so hard against their interests?
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Michael Lindley
American in Paris
07:18 PM on 09/28/2011
So 2013 is taxageddon?
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rascal barquecat
250 words? That's not enough to complete a
11:50 AM on 09/29/2011
Yes, because the tax rates under Clinton just completely crippled the US economy. Who needed a surplus or to make payments on the actual debt?

(Apparently Bush and company thought the money was much more needed by the corporations, MIC, and ultra rich than it was by the US to pay down or even off our debt.)
albar
Republicans gathered in their political graves
12:14 PM on 09/28/2011
ResearchtheFacts 22 hours ago (2:27 PM)
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With the kind of deficit we have related to the Bush wars and continued under Obama you would think all that military equipment which was purchased using tax payer money would have enough value to be sold to the Iraqis (you have ordinary Americans selling their old cell phones on ebay because everything has some kind of value). First their (Iraq) oil did not pay for the wars or reconstruc­tion and supposedly they were given a better life in exchange for our help if you listen to how Bush coined it.

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You forget to mention that Bush/Cheney's unwarranted invasion destroyed Iraq's infrastructure, BILLIONS of dollars simply disappeared and that the whole mess cost over 4,000 American soldiers their lives and more than 30,000 are maimed for life.

And who do you think was the driving force behind to stall an earlier withdrawal? Of course, your republican friends. So don't try to push the blame on President Obama
10:00 AM on 09/28/2011
is there a union rep on this committee
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JustinP213
I dislike all political parties.
09:23 AM on 09/28/2011
We're all fu......
09:15 AM on 09/28/2011
The super congress is super illegal. Congress ceded its own authority to tax and spend to a chosen few 12 plus the prez as tie breaker...totally unconstitutional. Its close to forming a 4th branch of govt.
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blackraisin
Life, Liberty, Property.
09:47 AM on 09/28/2011
The super Congress just makes recommendations which are fast-tracked for a vote by Congress. Its like a committee.
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englishman545
English Born, Brooklyn Raised
10:03 AM on 09/28/2011
They had to create a "Super Congress" as most of the Congressmen do not show up for work every day.
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Mr Forgettable
Part-time ninja
01:00 PM on 09/28/2011
i hope they all have matching costumes w/ capes.
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dennidus1680
12:00 PM on 09/29/2011
The object was to make it hard to blame congress for the result.
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mustardhead98
Professional Fine Artist
09:13 AM on 09/28/2011
Super Committee?? Super Smoke Screen is more like it. Once again, Obama has punted the responsibility to another entity-"it's not MY fault, it's the Super Committee's fault!!"-an entity comprised of 6 dems, 6 republicans.

In this climate where everytime the prez opens his mouth he disses the Republicans and lamblasts their ideas, oh yes, this is going to turn out well! (rolling my eyes) He KNOWS they aren't going to come to any agreement and he WANTS to cut spending on defense. This is just a way to go about it while attempting to skirt any responsibility...the ONE thing he's experienced at.
08:27 AM on 09/28/2011
The problem is that almost by definition a politicians
1) has learned the craft of politics and is not an operator, trained to understand economic, or even has a requirement to be bright, collaborative, etc
2) They enter politics to wield power not to reduce the scope of government
3) They are more worried about maintaining their personal power and getting reelected rather than the long-term health of the country
4) They are more single issue than broad thinkers

Total government spending has increased from 22% of GDP to over 33% of GDP in the last 30 years. Republican, Democrats, it doesn't matter. They keep adding to the system never subtracting.

Resolving the budget is the process of 536 people, each with little real world experience, conflicting priorities, self-serving and patriotic motives intermingled, with partisan jockeying expected to create a good outcome. What a pathetic state of affairs.
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zeutern
Capt.747-8
08:21 AM on 09/28/2011
This Super Commitee is a joke.
6 of one and half a dozen of the other..
Of course they'll disagree and agree along party lines and nothing gets done.
Just buying time until the elections.
09:01 AM on 09/28/2011
Problem is, it's not a funny joke.
09:15 AM on 09/28/2011
the prez is the 13 th member, the tie breaker.
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zeutern
Capt.747-8
11:05 AM on 09/28/2011
Thanks for educating me.
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WhiteGuy
I'll drink the Tea you drink the KoolAid
08:20 AM on 09/28/2011
The Super Liars can't cut the purse strings to tax payers. Another Obama joke.

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Mikeeee
Private corps can't do it better!!!
08:19 AM on 09/28/2011
How is this supposed to be a bipartisan committee when both sides have stacked it with conservatives?