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Super Committee Holding Super Secret Meetings

Super Committee Secret

First Posted: 09/28/11 11:43 AM ET Updated: 11/28/11 05:12 AM ET

Throughout the day on Tuesday, a smattering of political reporters leaned up against walls in the basement of the Capitol Visitors Center. Inside room HVC200, the 12-member supercommittee, tasked with reshaping the nation's tax code, social safety net and approach to war, was meeting in secret.

"I don’t want to discuss what we discussed," Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) told the gathered reporters, as recorded by Politico.

“I think you all know the rules,” Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) told the group, according to Roll Call. “If you want to talk to somebody, talk to our two co-chairmen."

"They have had a series of member meetings and will continue to do so while also holding public hearings," a spokesperson for Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), one of the two chairs, told HuffPost on Tuesday when asked about the private meeting, which lasted most of the day.

The other panel members, according to media reports, were equally mum about what went on inside the room. "They were running through a whole series of cats and dogs," an aide to a Democratic member told HuffPost.

Of the six significant meetings the Super Congress has held, only two have been public -- one to allow members to read prepared opening statements.

After public pressure that the panel meet in public, its rules were written to say that the meetings “shall be open to the public and the media unless the Joint Select Committee, in open session and a quorum being present, determines by majority vote that such hearing or meeting shall be held in closed session,” Roll Call noted.

Just how much the supercommittee's deliberations matter, however, remains in doubt. The driving motivation behind the committee is a series of "automatic, across-the-board cuts" that will go into effect if the panel deadlocks. But, as HuffPost reported Tuesday, those cuts don't begin to take effect until 2013, meaning that Congress will have more than a year -- a time span that includes a lame duck Congress -- to reverse itself:

The automatic cuts -- known as sequestration -- are often discussed in Washington as if they're certain, an inevitability that Congress won't be able to prevent. But on the same day those cuts would go into effect, the Bush tax rates, which President Obama extended for two years, are set to expire, leading to an "automatic" tax hike that is treated in Washington as anything but inevitable. (That the two coming policy changes are approached so differently -- cuts are expected; expiring tax breaks for the wealthy are brushed aside -- is a window into Washington's priorities.) A host of other tax cuts and credits will expire on the same day, including the alternative minimum tax, ethanol tax credits, renewable energy credits and others important to businesses, the wealthy and the middle class.

A lame duck Congress would have two months after the 2012 election to stave off the expiration of both that tax policy and the super committee's "automatic" cuts.

The most likely scenario: The super committee locks up along partisan lines and, after the 2012 election, bipartisan negotiators deal with the tax cuts and the super committee's sequestration cuts, along with a basket of other expiring provisions, in one set of negotiations. Democrats will be pressured by the coming sequestration, while Republicans will be motivated by the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. And all of their negotiations will take place in a political and economic climate impossible to predict today.

Ryan Grim contributed reporting

WATCH: Grim spoke on MSNBC's "The Last Word" on the super committee:

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Throughout the day on Tuesday, a smattering of political reporters leaned up against walls in the basement of the Capitol Visitors Center. Inside room HVC200, the 12-member supercommittee, tasked with...
Throughout the day on Tuesday, a smattering of political reporters leaned up against walls in the basement of the Capitol Visitors Center. Inside room HVC200, the 12-member supercommittee, tasked with...
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yogini4
Think deeper!
08:17 PM on 10/23/2011
Wake up and smell the conspiracy (that's what it's called when people conspire in secret).
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
11:50 AM on 10/17/2011
That's odd. I don't recall anything in the Constitution about a "super committee" which can meet in secret and have authority over the budget. Someone please tell me where it says that.
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whyus
San Francisco native
02:04 PM on 10/02/2011
...excuse.... Sounds to me like they're a s super secret Mason Society.
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whyus
San Francisco native
02:02 PM on 10/02/2011
Sounds li
11:59 PM on 09/29/2011
It might be legal but it sure ain't democracy.
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ghostrider57
Unable to find reality.sys Universe halted
01:22 PM on 09/29/2011
“shall be open to the public and the media unless the Joint Select Committee, in open session and a quorum being present, determines by majority vote that such hearing or meeting shall be held in closed session,”

We shall obey the rules, except when we determine we don't have to.

No wonder no intelligent person has any faith in our government officials anymore.
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
01:14 PM on 10/17/2011
Great avatar, great micro blog. Love it!
12:28 PM on 09/29/2011
This report is woefully inadequate as it fails to enumerate the lobbyists who have a hook in each member of the committee. That is the most significant piece of the story and yet, it is ignored. What kind of democracy do you want? I want transparency of all lobbying. I want to watch on live TV as my legislators are being bribed. I want to see what they got and what they gave in real time, no censorship. Add your voice to ours: http://signon.org/sign/out-lobbyists
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11:28 AM on 09/29/2011
Wait, don't these people work for us? These are 'elected' officials and they should be answering to the people of this country. We should be marching in the street to protest this!
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Kalemanao
We Didn't Start The Fire...
05:25 AM on 09/29/2011
MILD-MANNERED SENATORS...

Look, Up in the Sky! The Amazing Story of Super Committee...

Where is Clark?
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cccoyote
America couldn't be bought by corps.
03:46 AM on 09/29/2011
Ah, secret agendas for a group slipped into power under the smog of the debt crisis.

People are becoming disgusted.

http://occupytogether.org/
03:10 AM on 09/29/2011
Secret government, secret lobbying, where is our democracy? http://signon.org/sign/out-lobbyists
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Samiiam
01:47 AM on 09/29/2011
Same old tired white men with same old tired lines or lies.
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Lane Campbell
Say what?
01:47 AM on 09/29/2011
Well, so much for transparency in government... should we be shocked?
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mike Forrest
01:22 AM on 09/29/2011
Time to investigate George Soros for War Crimes and currency crimes!
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jimme
Being liberal is true freedom.
02:37 AM on 09/29/2011
Well, since you're all gung-ho for investigations, let's see what those Koch bros have been up to.
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
01:19 PM on 10/17/2011
Soros makes a lot of his money by betting on politics, and investing in things that will go up if he guesses right. There are other players who are much more evil. Another commenter mentioned the Koch brothers. That's just a start.
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mike Forrest
01:18 AM on 09/29/2011
Well at least the Republicans and Conservatives aren't backed by a NAZI WAR CRIMINAL who changed sides and worked for the Commie Hungarian Regime befor moving to America like the Democrats are bankrolled by by George Soros!

Seems he sold his fellow Jews out by handing out the Deportation Notices that sent fellow Jews to the Gas Chambers! He also made many by blackmarketeering and currency speculation!

NICE GUYS the Democrats like to hang out with!
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Samiiam
01:48 AM on 09/29/2011
You are wrong.
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jimme
Being liberal is true freedom.
02:39 AM on 09/29/2011
Please step away from the Beck.